Starcraft Mafia Mini 1210 (Over)

[Vifam]

Sup.


I've played SC Broodwar but everyone on ICCUP said I sucked at it so I figure I might as well drop it. :/


1. I liked Terrans
2. Goliath
3. What is this?


I have experience on live mafia, and I've completed one game on MS.


Also:

RAYNORS RAIDERS!
GOGOOGOGGO!

anyways
VOTE: Vifam


I c u everywhere!

This is why you have to die VOTE: Kiwi

[Vifam]

Vote:Morthas

for having three reasons for an RVS vote

Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?

luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.

I don't get the joke either.

[Vifam]

I don't see why his question was laughed at though, it seemed like a legitimate way to start discussion.

[Vifam]

Stels vs Morthaz is town v town.

[Vifam]

The Town V Town thing is just a hunch, my gut tells me they're both town. I have no real concrete evidence on that.

[Vifam]

This wagon on Morthas is bad.


[quote*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.
[/quote]



Except he wasn't talking to you specifically.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Avas

[Vifam]

EBWOP
This wagon on Morthas is bad.

*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.

Except he wasn't talking to you specifically.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Avas

[Vifam]

Hello, kind of busy with other games/IRL. Catch up later.

[Vifam]

Lol. That's so Vifam.

Whoa.

You obviously know me or you're looking at my previous games.

[Vifam]

The case on me seems to be that I'm defending Morthas.



As I've said before, he's simply a gut townread, along with Sethos, thus calling it Town V Town early in the game. Usually your gut calls reads before your mind does.


I've been seriously not giving enough attention to this game. I apologize whole heartily for that.

[Vifam]

I'm not sure I agree with Rewqscum.

You will not state your case on me.

An OMGUS vote is still an OMGUS vote. Nothing you've done this game struck me as terribly pro-town, and you've still yet to lay down a vote on one of the wagons.

VOTE: rewq455

What is he supposesdly supposed to do? When he is being voted without a decent reasoning, what should be his course of action? HellooooooNewman's holding out and you're just letting him on while he pushes a wagon he can't even justify. That's ridiculous.



VOTE: HelloNewman

[Vifam]

EBWOP:


The gbw case is pretty freaking sufficient too, but we need to get the ball rolling in someone else direction for a bit.

[Vifam]

hmm.


This seems like a basic scum bussing tactic to me.

[Vifam]

EBWOP:

And by that, I mean, Rewq's and Newman's back and forth does nothing but try to put over the other with silly logic / No logic at all. KJ just kind of proved that.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rewq


If they are bussing, I'm going for the strongest wagon.

[Vifam]

That wasn't a very good claim.


Full role please.

[Vifam]

I dont like the rewq wagon.

He isn't even fully claiming, he just gave us a name :/.

[Vifam]

isnt Fenix the leader of the Raynors Raiders?

I don't know, that's why I want a fullclaim :/

[Vifam]

Here is my full claim:

Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)

Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

[Vifam]

Wait.


Why is every other race scum? Why does this necessarily have to be a race v race thing? This could easily be random, much like [REDACTED]. KJ knows what I'm talking about.

[Vifam]

And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..

Alright, I'm down.


I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: HellllllloNewman


I agree.


I still don't like the interaction between Rewq and Newman, TBVH.

[Vifam]

That's not his fault, you weren't exactly clear.


Can you explain your suspicion on Rewq? You're still not providing any insight.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

You guys wanted a full claim. :/

I feel that I was plenty clear, but whatever. Vifam.....I notice that you still keep your vote on me. Interesting.

It was to pressure you into actually giving me some reasoning, no reason to leave it up now.

UNVOTE:

[Vifam]

You guys wanted a full claim. :/

Rewq was asked for a full claim, no one else.

ugh, I assumed since we were making Rewq full claim everyone had to full claim.

[Vifam]

Also, is your role name "Overload"? I know of the closely spelled Overlord unit, and in concept stages the Phoenix had an ability called Overload. But I want your character's name. And to hear from the other six people that havn't name claimed yet.

Overlord, Zerg race.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

Why did you not just simply state Watcher? It's a common role in mafia that I'm sure everyone knows about. Just like you added your role to a name claim, you also added unnecessary parts to your role. It just seems kinda weird. So, even if they are synonyms, you only need one of them, not two...

Does it matter? Seriously I don't know what the hell you're getting at, everyone could see that they meant the same thing.


You're completely grasping at straws.

[Vifam]

Who has a bigger wagon out of Vifam and rewq?

I'll vote for whichever one has more votes.

Is that going to be your play all game? Your ISO is just giving me lots of blatant sheeping I don't think scum would have the balls to do.


But still.

[Vifam]

I have an iso that you can get stuff from? Damn you're good at reading between the lines.

And you have obviously never played with me before.

I have not, and I'm too lazy to check if you're like this every game.

[Vifam]

Failure to explain properly on your part doesn't constitute my "misrepping". It sounded like you stated your PM didn't mention Protoss anywhere.

The way you explained it now makes more sense. As in my PM it stated I was Selendis (town) <-- just like that. And your role makes more sense too when the Protoss name thing is a conditional modifier instead of the entire power.

UNVOTE:

Blatant backtracking


His explanation is real bad.

If he TRUST protoss THEN HOW ELSE IS THE PM GONNA MENTION IT?

Who exactly is backtracking?

[Vifam]

Uh,


what are you trying to tell us?

[Vifam]

READING COMPREHENSION IS THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE OF MEN.

[Vifam]

Whoa, I didn't know I was up for a prod, weird.

[Vifam]

Meh.


I'm dealing with the role I was assigned, If I were scum I would have come up with something way more consistent with what was previously posted. Thinking that I would do this on purpose is Over-The-Top.


@Scooby, can you provide any reasoning as to why I'm scum besides "lol this claim is so fake"?


Anyway, the case on Esp is good, I was going by this just being his play, but since someone said that he put more effort as town in his other games, I'm gonna assume this is his scumplay.



My role has another ability I'd like to try out. It's pretty snazy.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Esp

[Vifam]

I'd also like a

Deadline Extension

To anyone who still thinks my claim is fake, tell me why I decided to pick a UNIT instead of just clicking some random character in the the SC wiki?


Why would I purposely be the black sheep?


Scooby's tunnel has become worrisome, especially since he can't "vote" me. I want to hear why exactly he would think I would make a claim like that.

[Vifam]

Vifam, when you claimed there were still seven people to claim, so random claiming for sc wki would be a suicide claim in case other player had your fakeclaim as a real claim.

Also, is your role name "Overload"? I know of the closely spelled Overlord unit, and in concept stages the Phoenix had an ability called Overload. But I want your character's name. And to hear from the other six people that havn't name claimed yet.

Overlord, Zerg race.

This is a very important post. The way you claimed makes me believe that you thought Overlord was a character name and not a unit. (You directly answered a question about your character's name). Specially when you claimed "I'm Overload" and not "Im a Overlord".

I don't think you get it, all those who claimed before me were characters so why would I purposely make myself a blacksheep? It makes even less sense if you think about scum getting fake role PMs.


As for your second point, yeah, you're wrong, I've played Starcraft:Brood War, and I can tell you, Overlord is a unit. The only thing you can get there is a misspelling and lack of grammar.

[Vifam]

Whoa hey.


Scooby are you a lyncher?

[Vifam]

I'd also like a

Deadline Extension

To anyone who still thinks my claim is fake, tell me why I decided to pick a UNIT instead of just clicking some random character in the the SC wiki?

ding ding ding ding ding

Actually you wanna know what this sounds to me?

"im gonna get lynched, but since DH put a counter-wagon I need more time so esp gets more vote"

Well, in my defense, I have not been paying much attention to this game :/.

oh and:

Vifam lurked until someone finally came and defended her

My posting has been sporadic this whole game, I don't know why you think DH rolling in makes anything different.

[Vifam]

Also you wanted a case? Here is a case:

You have 34 posts, of which:

- are fluff or promises to post (iso 1, 2, 7, 8, 15, 16, 17, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31
- 1 is a very weird "town vs. town" comment that you later justify as gut, iso 4, iso 9.
- 1 is a defense of Morthas and a wrong attack against avas for "he wasn't talking to you specfically" when Morthas clearly did, iso 5.
- 1 is another weird "this seems like a scum bussing tactic", iso 12
- 1 is a contradiction with your previous stance on rewq: you said you didnt agree with rewq scum in iso10 but then you voted him in iso 13 and to L-1!.
- 1 is an overreaction to the race vs race theory that made you fullclaim when no one asked you to (trying to look town with a power role that fits your fakeclaim). iso 19
- 1 is a blatant lie, since you were the only one asking rewq to fullclaim, iso 23.
- 1 is another contradiction with your previous stance on Espe: you said you didn't see him a scum in 27. Once you got the support for DemonHybrid, you somehow forgot what you said about him.

Question, why were you posting ion other games and not here over the past days?

ISO 12 + 13 make complete sense, you say my bussing theory is "weird" then you say that I was contradicting myself on Rewq being scum.

WHY?

IS0 19 isn't an "overreaction" it was a completely viable question seeing how KJ was "confident". And it didn't lead me to full claiming, that's misrepsentation at a HIGH level.

ISO 27 isn't a contradiction, I said "You're doing a lot of sheeping I don't think scum would have the balls to do" when someone spoke up about this being his scumplay, I kind of put off my stance on him.

So your defense is
"i have not been paying attention to this game so all your points are null."

Are you

Are you serious?

[Vifam]

How many votes am I away from a lynch?

[Vifam]

That also brings up another question:

Why is he not able to vote me?

[Vifam]

Hence the Lyncher-Who-Can-Not-Vote-His-Target thing.

I know nothing about the SC universe, but the whole unable to vote me thing doesn't make much sense.

[Vifam]

Okay.


But you realize

The point

-----------------

Your head

[Vifam]

WHAT.

[Vifam]

I actually have no idea what "your head" means, but from what I infer it means its stupid.

Uhm.


No.

[Vifam]

It...It means that you missed the point.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Esp


Screw the claim.

[Vifam]

I'm a rebel.

[Vifam]

Look up Scooby.


Look up.

[Vifam]

Also, can you stop calling me a "she"

Gender:Male

Not hard, buddy.

[Vifam]

Scooby's a lyncher, I can feel it.

[Vifam]

I watched DH, nothing happened.

[Vifam]

Sigh.


At this point I'm probably going to get lynched.


VOTE: Scooby

[Vifam]

ACTUALLY, I'd prefer they would lynch Scooby, because when I flip town it should be evident he's full of it.