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Hello.
And with that, I'm going to sleep. Any help with catching up will be grand, but I will have time to read through tomorrow night and I will come up with reads. 17 pages is more than enough.-
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Meetings all day. I'm trying to get time to catch up and I will, just be patient for a few hours, guys.-
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These are my reads.
Absolutely town:
Psyche
Vifam
Scott Brosius
HellooNewman
KJ
Meh:
kiwi
Iecerint
Scooby
Why the fuck aren't these people dead yet?:
Morthas
rewq
ESPEONAGE
VOTE: ESPEONAGE
Why this isn't a wagon, I have no clue. He is the definition of opportunistic and fluffy, just ISO him.-
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Psyche is paying very close attention to details and his scumhunting is right on point.
SB's intro post is golden.
Vifam is the most misrepresented player I've ever had the fortune of playing with. His early game play shows nothing but misinformed, confused and scared town play.
Helloo's claim is awesome due to the timing, details and confirmability, and his play has been pro-active as well, which unfortunately, got a bullshit and opportunistic wagon placed on him.
KJ's a gut feeling, so this may change. I know absolutely nothing about the three in the middle, but rewq is the definition of active lurking, Morthas is opportunistic, and Espeonage is a great and delicious combination of both.
Am I missing something? If so, please let me know, I did a skim because I plan on sleeping soon.-
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Espeonage wrote:Vote: Vifam
BANDWAGONZ
Overdone RVS post. Obviously picking the weakest player out of the bunch.
Espeonage wrote:1. Nope. I'm just here for you.
2. Puppies are ok.
3. Alot
4. Sup
Not caring about his answers, too focused on other things other than providing information
Espeonage wrote:Well it's almost 9pm here.
fluff
Espeonage wrote:Psyche wrote:rewq455 wrote:
Vote:Morthasfor having three reasons for an RVS vote
Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?
luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.
attempt to look town, obvpsychetownlabeling town point scramble. attempt to put down his scumhunting ability as bad, when he's right.
Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Morthas
opportunistic
Espeonage wrote:woah shit. Game is now on my bookmarks.
fluff
Espeonage wrote:Just got noobs in LoL so I have to wait 20 minutes at least before they forfeit after me leaving. (Seriously. They wanted Jax mid and bot to be the solo lane while WW was jungling. Idiots)
I'm not going to reread, that always ends in a bunch of IIoA. Instead I will look at current state of play. See who needs to be looked at and just comment and maybe iso.
attempt to justify lurking. fluff.
Espeonage wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:Unvote
I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.
You passed.
bullshit
Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.
attempt to look town
Espeonage wrote:Vote: rewq
opportunsiticccccccccccccccccccccccc
Espeonage wrote:I'll help. Let me do my own thing for a bit. I'll let you know if there is anything going on my head that needs to be shared. I'll pull an all-nighter on the weekend. I'm more talkative when I'm tired.
And tbh, this game sucks pretty bad. As far as I can tell you guys are getting caught up in stuff that doesn't matter. I see two separate arguments about wording of posts which is stupid.
avtive lurkging
Espeonage wrote:Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.
Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.
Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.
IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.
I remember why I started lurking this game -.-
trying to be the mediator and look town, nothing useful, actuvei lurkgijng
Espeonage wrote:Morthas != girl.
I'd be much happier with a rewq lynch tbh. And I've only read three pages.
fluff luff lfuflfuluflufl FLUFF
Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Vifam
OPPORTUSNISTICCCCCCCCCCCCCC
Espeonage wrote:There was a mass nameclaim?
Matt Horner.
I KNOW IM OUTGUESSING THE MOD HERE BUT THIS IS A BAD CLAIM. I MAY NOT KNO ANYTHING ABOUT STARCRAFT BUT IF YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF "EH COULD BE SCUM, THEYRE NEARLY VILLAINS" ROLES IN THE GAME AND THEN A HUMAN IN, AND THEN SPECIFY THAT THE CHARACTER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIGNMENT, THIS IS A CLASSIC MOD META SWITCH AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS SHITTY CLAIM MASKS SCUM
Espeonage wrote:Lol. I was actually scummy that game I'll admit. Actually that was a bad game.
Anyways, How am I too scummy to be scum this game?
LOL
WHY ISN'T THERE A WAGON ON THIS GUY-
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DeathNote wrote:Thus the game begins with two missing in confirmation. They will be given 48 hours.
Day 1 ends August 16th at 10:00 P.M. central time. My last piece of advice for this game is this:
Do NOT assume you can outsmart me.I have a reputation of placing not so evil characters as Mafia type roles. Flavor should mean nothing!!!!!!!
hell, look at this.
just
look at it
You fucks will unvote Vifam this very moment and vote Espeonage or so help me god-
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scooby wrote:Demonhybrid, I'd really like to lynch Vifam today. Your case on Espeonage is goodposting but not lynching Vifam because bastardmod (despite her scuminess) is idiotic.
I stated that Vifam is town, not because of his/her claim, but because of his/her early game play and general confusion. She/he isn't trying to hide anything and instead, seems generally confused in trying to figure everything out.
Vifam wrote:KJ wrote:And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..
Alright, I'm down.
I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.
The misspelling on his name claim = the name claim is definitely right.
Assuming DN says that anyone can be any alignment, it is assumed that scum do not have fakeclaims.
The "town watcher" part is up for debate, but I really think that this is just a discouraged and overwhelmed townie and the wagon on him is just absolutely bad.-
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Morthas wrote:Hi, why? EDIT: I am opportunistic? Tell me more.
You take very calculated shots at people who are not part of the main action. Your Stels vote, gbevil vote and kiwi votes all scream like you aren't pressuring the people that matter.
And for the record, there's a difference between mindless bandwagoning (i.e: Espe) and pressuring people that matter (i.e: Not targeting people who have no votes on them constantly)
What do you want me to explain about my reads? SB came in and voted Espeonage right off of the bat and presented a great case; he has not been opportunistic. Psyche is obviously paying close attention to detail and has been pressuring everyone and anyone for information and shows genuineness in trying to find information.
Thanks for the insult, very nice of you.
I agree about Espe, I thought his play was identical with my last game with him where he was mislynched as town but I went back and in his last game he posted much more content and even attempted scumhunting at some point. I would still prefer a Scott - Kiwi or a rewq lynch over him.
It wasn't an insult.
Morthas, this is why you're scummy. Why would you prefer an SB or KE lynch over the obviously scummy Espeonage after very clearly stating that you agree with how scummy he is?-
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killerjester wrote:I'm sorry, how does misspelling Overlord make it a valid claim when it's still the only non-name claim out of 12 players?
I just see it as a subconscious mistake after reading it directly from the PM.
This doesn't matter regardless. I firmly believe that scum do NOT have fakeclaims.-
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Maybe his role PM even has the word "Lookout" in it. Regardless, Vifam should NOT be lynched and those who go through with it will be prime suspects.
Espeonage, please. String him up.-
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Vifam wrote:I'd also like aDeadline Extension
To anyone who still thinks my claim is fake, tell me why I decided to pick a UNIT instead of just clicking some random character in the the SC wiki?
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Scott Brosius wrote:DemonHybrid wrote:killerjester wrote:I'm sorry, how does misspelling Overlord make it a valid claim when it's still the only non-name claim out of 12 players?
I just see it as a subconscious mistake after reading it directly from the PM.
This doesn't matter regardless. I firmly believe that scum do NOT have fakeclaims.
Did you read my post a few pages back? My PM confirms Arcturus Mengsk is in this game. Nobody has claimed him. That would lead me to believe there are fakeclaims.
Actually, your role said that Arcturus Mengsk is scum, did it not?
My guess is that you are an auto-cop-guilty when someone claims that name. That does NOT mean that scum have fakeclaims.-
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Last: Does anyone want my name claim? I'm for it, but only if it's the consensus.-
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scooby wrote:DemonHybrid wrote:Last: Does anyone want my name claim? I'm for it, but only if it's the consensus.
You already claimed.
Pay attention.
I didn't ISO Stels extensively quite yet.-
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Also, if you guys want any knowledge of Starcraft flavor from me, you aren't getting it. I haven't played a single game of Starcraft in my entire life.-
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Guys, regardless of this careful sidestepping around the setup and DN's mod meta, I just don't think that the claim is scummy at all. MAYBE the role PM just happened to have an ability named "Lookout". Maybe he IS a unit, I don't know. I don't care. He misspelled his role name; it could have just been him copying that name directly from his role PM.
Vifam's play makes no sense from a scum perspective. He put himself in black sheep mode, like he said before, by claiming what he did. Even if he WAS a scum role named "Overlord", do you really think he would risk claiming a unit as opposed to a character with a name? Do you think he would claim anything but just "watcher"?
A lot of his lurking is null. He seems exhausted and as if he doesn't care about this game.
Why would ANY scum openly ask if someone is a lyncher if he has so much heat on him?
There is just TOO much grey area and too many "why would he" questions in regards to his play and claim for me to believe that he's scum. Espeonage is so obvious though. Absolutely obvious; you could say that my desire to switch the wagon onto Espe stems more from my desire to kill Espeonage, and less from my desire to defend Vifam. He is NOT for today, if at all.-
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Guys, you aren't going to sell me on a Vifam lynch.
RIGHT NOW, I will not vote for him. I don't care what you say. He looks town to me right now. Later? Who knows. I'm not a fortune teller, or else I'd kick all of your asses at this game.
What I AM sure of is that Espeonage
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Iecerint wrote:scooby wrote:Tell me, why would Raynor want to lynch an overlord?
This is a legitimate question. It does not make sense that this sort of set-up spec would occur to just-a-unit Vifam.
I acknowledge that Overlord is bizarre from multiple angles, yes.
DH, you've got Brosius's claim wrong. Brosius's PM says that Arcturus (his rolename's father of whom he is naively worshipful in flavor) is in the game. He wanted until everyone had claimed before claiming that information. The fact that no one claimed Arcturus is what makes Arcturus fakeclaim-hidden scum.
Alright. I guess this is convincing enough that there are fakeclaims.
I'm not seeing why there can't be a unit as a real claim, though.-
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Espeonage wrote:On the way to my mums place. Will do something more substantial then.
Oh, trust me. I'm waiting on baited breath.-
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Iecerint wrote:I'llvoteEspywithyou.I'mnotvotinganyoneatpresent.Vote:Espeonage-
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Espeonage wrote:So who's close to being lynched?
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So, he's L-3!
HOP ON EVERYONE THERES ROOM ENOUGH FOR ALL OF YOU, I SWEAR-
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uhhh did you even read #443
it was, like, all about you-
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DemonHybrid wrote:Espeonage wrote:Vote: Vifam
BANDWAGONZ
Overdone RVS post. Obviously picking the weakest player out of the bunch.
Espeonage wrote:1. Nope. I'm just here for you.
2. Puppies are ok.
3. Alot
4. Sup
Not caring about his answers, too focused on other things other than providing information
Espeonage wrote:Well it's almost 9pm here.
fluff
Espeonage wrote:Psyche wrote:rewq455 wrote:
Vote:Morthasfor having three reasons for an RVS vote
Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?
luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.
attempt to look town, obvpsychetownlabeling town point scramble. attempt to put down his scumhunting ability as bad, when he's right.
Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Morthas
opportunistic
Espeonage wrote:woah shit. Game is now on my bookmarks.
fluff
Espeonage wrote:Just got noobs in LoL so I have to wait 20 minutes at least before they forfeit after me leaving. (Seriously. They wanted Jax mid and bot to be the solo lane while WW was jungling. Idiots)
I'm not going to reread, that always ends in a bunch of IIoA. Instead I will look at current state of play. See who needs to be looked at and just comment and maybe iso.
attempt to justify lurking. fluff.
Espeonage wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:Unvote
I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.
You passed.
bullshit
Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.
attempt to look town
Espeonage wrote:Vote: rewq
opportunsiticccccccccccccccccccccccc
Espeonage wrote:I'll help. Let me do my own thing for a bit. I'll let you know if there is anything going on my head that needs to be shared. I'll pull an all-nighter on the weekend. I'm more talkative when I'm tired.
And tbh, this game sucks pretty bad. As far as I can tell you guys are getting caught up in stuff that doesn't matter. I see two separate arguments about wording of posts which is stupid.
avtive lurkging
Espeonage wrote:Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.
Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.
Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.
IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.
I remember why I started lurking this game -.-
trying to be the mediator and look town, nothing useful, actuvei lurkgijng
Espeonage wrote:Morthas != girl.
I'd be much happier with a rewq lynch tbh. And I've only read three pages.
fluff luff lfuflfuluflufl FLUFF
Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Vifam
OPPORTUSNISTICCCCCCCCCCCCCC
Espeonage wrote:There was a mass nameclaim?
Matt Horner.
I KNOW IM OUTGUESSING THE MOD HERE BUT THIS IS A BAD CLAIM. I MAY NOT KNO ANYTHING ABOUT STARCRAFT BUT IF YOU PUT IN A BUNCH OF "EH COULD BE SCUM, THEYRE NEARLY VILLAINS" ROLES IN THE GAME AND THEN A HUMAN IN, AND THEN SPECIFY THAT THE CHARACTER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALIGNMENT, THIS IS A CLASSIC MOD META SWITCH AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS SHITTY CLAIM MASKS SCUM
Espeonage wrote:Lol. I was actually scummy that game I'll admit. Actually that was a bad game.
Anyways, How am I too scummy to be scum this game?
LOL
WHY ISN'T THERE A WAGON ON THIS GUY
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And you know, you haven't given a single opinion on anyone in pages soooooooooo
you know.
You haven't said a word to or about me, and I'm riding you like atreyu on falkor.
Your justification that "I had no suspicion before I was called out for lurking and now I'm L-2" is laughable
You need to hang.-
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Espeonage wrote:lol
Stupid Questions deserve stupid answers. You're expecting to get something out of nothing. Important point for later.
Wooooooooooooooooosh. Which is funny considering you missed my point and delved very far into something that meant exactly what it said.
orly? why?
and?
Nope, just fluff. Which I followed up with some stuff.
Ah no. That is giving a town read. And telling him to be helpful. Hypocrisy is only a bad thing if you don't realise it is hypocrisy.
Hardly. I was second vote on the wagon. The people who started voting after me are the opportunistic ones there.
Nah just lurking. Your're trying to give me extra credit to make me look scummier.
comagain. No trying to get people to pull their hands out of their asses and try to do stuff. Something which I should have given up on earlier than I did.
No, try the phrase. Telling it like it is.
Look at the votecount at that point and what was the time before deadline. Don't be stupid.
k
wut
Way to misrep and dismiss to a mislynch.
PEDIT:
1. Haven't posted either.
2. See 1 and see this post.
3. Misrep. Go back and read what I said. That is not what I said.
Your playstyle seems uncommitted, fluffy and useless.
The deadline doesn't matter. You rarely posted and you rarely gave a solid readall game.
Think about this, I had no suspicion before I prod dodged. Hmm poke your head in, people realise ohey easy lynch les go. And there you go day 1 mislynch that scum can hide in because it was on a lurker. Happens to much these days.
= "I had no suspicion before I lurked, then I became an easy lynch". Which is the same thing I'm saying.
Your answers were terrible.
Basically, ISO yourself. You call a few people town reads. But who do you call scum?
It's not Morthas. You admit that it's the largest bandwagon, so you jumped on.
No, not rewq. You just said you'd be happy with his lynch. You post no reasoning.
Definitely not Vifam. Because youJUST PLACED A CLOSE-TO-DEADLINE VOTE ON HIM AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT
So, you don't have a single scum read this game. And it's 21 pages.
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Espeonage wrote:I don't call anyone scum becauseI have no scum reads.
I have no scum reads because I have not read the game. I have some town reads because they are bleedingly obvious.
Also no that is not what I am saying. I am saying that it's obviously a case of scum looking for a lynch that will stick see me poke my head in and realise they were stupid to not try and do exactly what you are doing earlier. "before I lurked" Tell me, when was I not lurking?
Right now, you are not lurking.
Every other post before the last 2 or 3 has been active lurking.
Not the answer you were looking for, was it?
21 pages. You've been in this game since the start.July 25th.
And no scumreads. But you're perfectly happy to throw down like4 or 5 town reads, aren't you?
Wow, that seems almost inconsistent. Because it is.-
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Lets see.
"I haven't read the game, so I have no scum reads!"
Espeonage wrote:Psyche wrote:rewq455 wrote:
Vote:Morthasfor having three reasons for an RVS vote
Explain. Should he have more, or less? And why?
luuuuul. Psyche is town. But stupid.
Looks like you were reading the game here.
Espeonage wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:Unvote
I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.
You passed.
bullshit
Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.
And this quote, too!
Espeonage wrote:Ok seriously. STFU ALL OF YOU.
Kiwi stop being a dipshit, Newman is town.
Go back, reread just a pae or two and look at your posts. Then look back at this one. Then look at Newman's most recent one. back at your posts. Look at me, and tell me you don't need to take a step back.
IF I HEAR ANYONE USE THE WORDS GRAMMAR, ROLE PM OR PROTOSS IN A CASE ABOUT ANYONE WHERE THESE WORDS AREN'T NEEDED I WILL NOT HESITATE TO VOTE THEM.
I remember why I started lurking this game -.-
You read here, as well!
I don't call anyone scum because I have no scum reads.
I have no scum readsbecause I have not read the game. I have some town reads because they are bleedingly obvious.
"Bleedingly obvious" doesn't cut it. You should have scum reads that are "bleedingly obvious".
No reasoning for your town "reads". You say they're bleedingly obvious.
No reasoning for your scum "reads". You say you have no scum reads.
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Espeonage wrote:DH for the case on me. I've pointed out why it looks scum motivated.
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Finally nice to see that you're out of RVS, Espeonage.-
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Funny, didn't seem that way to me.
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Don't worry, he's still going to flip scum.
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can espy die
his only case on anyone is that my case on him is bad and his vote for me was an afterthought "oh shit" moment
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kiwieagle wrote:I wanna lynch Morthas tommorow.
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I'd ask for a flip, but I pretty much already know espy is going to flip scum
protip, mafia: you should kill me tonight due to me being a threat
Morthas and rewq are still dat scummy scummy until I'm convinced otherwise-
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HEY EVERYONE THE PARTY IS OVER ON THE MORTHAS WAGON, COME JUMP ON-
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EVERYONE'S INVITED TO REWQ'S HOUSE FOR THE AFTERPARTY-
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Oh, if there's a watch target on me or something, please let us know now who, if anyone, visited me. It'sveryimportant.-
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Iecerint, this may shed some light on things:
I have a power that keeps a person who I target from switching sides. My passive is that no one can force me to do an action or switch sides.
If that makes any sense at all to you, let me know. For a while, I thought I was the one that was targeted with a side switching action, but since you mentioned that...-
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Iecerint, kiwi, Scott are all close to confirmed town to me.
That leaves...
ooba
Morthas
Scooby
Vifam
rewq455
ShadowDancer
Morthas and rewq should obviously go first. I doubt it's ShadowDancer based on Psyche's play, and I doubt it's Vifam. If not any of those two or we're missing one of them, Scooby and ooba.-
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There is no scum motivation to claim that role along with a breadcrumb like that. It may be an iffy town play, but it practically confirms kiwi to me.
Iece should reply to my statement before you ask him a bunch of questions.-
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I targeted you. I can't believe I forgot to mention that.-
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It just says I'm Edmund Duke and I can protect someone from switching sides. I'm protected from being forced to do anything, and I'm protected from being forced to switch sides. I targeted you last night because I found you townish.-
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I was expecting the alignment switching or side switching whatever to be placed on me after I requested the mafia to kill me.-
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I know not a thing about Starcraft lore, so you could tell me that Edmund Duke liked to eat babies and I'd believe you.-
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Curiously, my passive says that I cannot be targeted by "recruiting" powers, so I'm assuming that the mafia have the power to recruit someone.
Perhaps that's what happened to Iece, and perhaps that's why his alignment didn't change.-
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is it...you know...happening?
Because that'd be pretty chill.-
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rewq455 wrote:Morthas wrote:rewq wrote:Vote:Morthas for having three reasons for an RVS vote
Who said it's random? 3 reasons = genuine.
...... touche
UNVOTE: Morthas
The whole thing with Vifam saying town v town doesnt seem like it means much this early in the game
@kiwiwagle- why would you vote morthas for some stupid argument about your wiki, when you just said you are getting bad vibes from Vifam saying the argument between Stels and Morthas?
Quick hop off of someone who I find very scummy
rewq455 wrote:avasthearties wrote:*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.
....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?
Defense of him
rewq455 wrote:rewq455 wrote:avasthearties wrote:*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.
....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?
WTF am I smoking lol. You never said he voted you. Am tired sorry.
But backed away from it when you were in the wrong
rewq455 wrote:VOTE: Vote:Acronach for not even confirming yet.
Useless person to put your vote on. Tried to look pro-town doing it, but you were not interested in looking for scum.
rewq455 wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:Why do the accumulation of your posts all sound like "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say to me comes back to you"?
Why don't you ISO me and read my posts? I have only defended myself in one post, so that is the only one which you can describe as an "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say to me comes back to you" response. Last time I checked, 1/10 is not enough to make a generalization like that.
I decided to ISO you. Post 1 is you answering the questions. Posts 2-4 are you justifying lurking. Post 5 is you giving a relatively unjustified vote on me. Post 6 is you avoiding justifying your vote on me. Avoiding justification is in no case pro-town. Anyone else agree?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: HellloooNewman
Fired back at him when he started to put pressure on you. Not liking this.
rewq455 wrote:UNVOTE: Acronach
In fact, you even forgot that you were voting for him. What does that say about your sincerity?
rewq455 wrote:just realized I unvoted Acronach twice... kiwi referenced a post from further back than i expected and forgot that I had unvoted
oops
rewq455 wrote:Stels wrote:gbevilchaos wrote:You did eventually, but not at the start when he originally commented on it. You just said wiki.... (but you have no wiki page, lol).
That was me...
rewq455 wrote:rewq455 wrote:avasthearties wrote:*sigh* Well this game is pretty much stagnant in terms of discussion, so for the sake of drumming some up UNVOTE: VOTE: Morthas for being kind of a douche and also calling me a lurker for not having posted in 24 hours. Frankly, there hasn't been much to post on, as Newman said. Well now there is. I believe Morthas is at L-2. Discuss.
....just went through Morthas's posts. He never voted you.... That is my contribution to that discussion. New topic?
WTF am I smoking lol. You never said he voted you. Am tired sorry.
Scumslip?
rewq455 wrote:VOTE: Vote:Acronach for not even confirming yet.
Not confident where to place your vote, so you place it on someone who can't defend himself in any way at this point. A blank and unnecessary vote.
UNVOTE: Morthas
VOTE: rewq455
I was trying to check and see if he was lurking...
uh, oops
rewq455 wrote:Someone who is unconfirmed would not typicaly be accussed of lurking. Just checking to see if he was there, was not thinking, once the futility was pointed out i unvoted. Look at my previous games. My meta is that i tend to switch votes often and never really be sure about it. Games are in my wiki.
yeah okay
rewq455 wrote:kiwieagle wrote:From this fight, gb is the scummier of the two tbh.
But I would still prefer a Vifam lynch.
Reasons?
Let's quasi-defend the not-so-obvious but-really-is townie
rewq455 wrote:killerjester wrote:rewq455 wrote:Voting somebody who claims to be able to confirm protoss roles? That makes me think you are lying about yours.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: kiwieagle
Actually, I got the same vibes kiwi got on Newman. There was some hard cognitive dissonance between these two posts.
HellloooNewman wrote:Okay, zero flavor knowledge here.
How is one player being "protoss" make them believe that another player claims the same?
"Unnecessary" quotations around the word protoss, as if he's never ever heard the term before...
HellloooNewman wrote:I am Artanis and I am town. I am told that I trust all Protoss', and if I target them at night, I will be unable to perform my action on them (due to trusting them). I will instead learn their name.
This is actually quite helpful now that 2 Protoss' have claimed. I can tell you if they are lying or not.
Unvote - Rewq
But the word itself is mentioned in his role PM. Beyond that, while I don't know if he's fake-claiming or not, I'm just saying an investigative role such as this isn't a bad fake-claim if he were scum. That is to say, he could easily fake it by confirming the names of any town, and quite possibly outting some scum to clear his own name. The only way he's going to prove his role in my mind is if he gives the flavor-name of a town BEFORE they do, and they [the town] confirms his investigation is correct.
And Vifam, I know which game you're talking about. My Protoss = town theory was just that, a theory. If you got a town role PM and a non-Protoss name, I'd like you to name claim still. It won't necessarily mean you're anti-town, just that my theory could be wrong. Afterall, the mod did say this..
DeathNote wrote:Do NOT assume you can outsmart me.I have a reputation of placing not so evil characters as Mafia type roles. Flavor should mean nothing!!!!!!!
The problem with this plan though is that he can just choose a scum member and make-up a role then the scum member will confirm it.
killerjester wrote:HellloooNewman wrote:Because my PM gave my name (Artanis) and the fact that I was town. It did not say Artanis, Protoss, or Artanis Templar, or anything of the sort.
Wait...Yeah. I'm throwing my vote back up. In #209 he explicitly mentioned "Protoss" was in his role ability. And now he say it isn't.
VOTE: HelloNewman
Good Catch.
UNVOTE: Kiwieagle
VOTE: HellllllloNewman
you seemed so absolutely uncommitted to this wagon all game.
oh, and by the way
rewq455 wrote:Espeonage wrote:So who's close to being lynched?
This pretty much sums up your ISO.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Espeonage
this is the first time you've mentioned espeonage all game
food for fucking thought
rewq455 wrote:Here is my full claim:
Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)
Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise
This is probably a true claim. One thing that is missing is the alignment, however.
That's pretty much the gist of it. Espy's flip really solidifies my read on you like wet cement in the sun.-
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WELL TOO BAD YOU'RE GETTING IT
HERE IS THE TRAILER TO
"MORTHAS IS FUCKING SCUMMY: THE MOVIE PART II"
Morthas wrote:I am slowly becoming a fan of Psyche, this is way stronger than anything we got on rewq
Evil wrote:I've already responded to all points in Psyche's case, so vote me if you find it convincing. I have nothing else to say. I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway.
This post, right after Psyche's case on him is especially scummy.
I find saying ''I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway" Without saying anything beforehand scummy since as town you'd want to help town as much as possible before the mislynch (From his POV) and not act as if you don't care, the fact that his activity has dropped astoundingly after that is also interesting.
VOTE: gbevil
Kiwi wrote:unvote
VOTE: Gbevil
If no one likes the Vifam case, then on to my second suspect.
Eagles eat kiwis
wtf? This post is "Oh can't lynch a, so let's go lynch b". Wagonjumping much? ISO TIIIIIIIMEEEE~~~~
FoS Kiwi
You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?
rewq wrote:Here is my full claim:
Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)
Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise
Now why as scum would you claim with a Beyond the grave ability?
Stels wrote:UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran
Vifam wrote:I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.
No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam
That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.FoS Stels
WOW DID YOU REALLY VOTE SOMEONE AND THEN THROW SUSPICION ON TWO PEOPLE IN A ROW IN THE SAME POST
Morthas wrote:Espe...?
Morthas wrote:I mean, explain?
KIND OF A FREUDIAN SLIP THERE EH
Morthas wrote:I agree about Espe, I thought his play was identical with my last game with him where he was mislynched as town but I went back and in his last game he posted much more content and even attempted scumhunting at some point. I would still prefer a Scott - Kiwi or a rewq lynch over him.
OH REALLY
LETS TRY TO SET UP ESPEONAGE UP FOR A LYNCH IF NEED BE BUT PROTECT HIM AT THE SAME TIME
Morthas wrote:Esp's defense is shit. We ain't going to lynch anyone else so I'll just drop the hammer.
VOTE: Esp
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Stop trying to lynch Vifam, all of you. He is bad town right now because he is new. He says bad things.
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scooby wrote:Caught scum trying to discredit the attacker?
Are you seriously that naive?
I bet you didn't even look at my rewq or Morthas cases at all, but that's okay, because you're scooby.
hint: there is no fucking scum motivation behind calling someone a lyncher and bringing nothing but negative attention your way. Vifam isn't good. He's new.-
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Iecerint, did you forget about fakeclaims? I'm not doubting the ability, however.
And scooby, please point out where I said he's town BECAUSE he is new. I said that there's no scum motivation behind his actions. I don't understand why you want him dead so badly.-
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