CAH- UPICK- GAME OVER!!!

Klick · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:41 am

/confirm

Klick · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:52 am

stop bullying him jerk

Klick · Post Post #35 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:11 am

Klick · Post Post #37 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:26 am

1. Smash is town

2. We can't vote yet

Klick · Post Post #39 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:47 am

Klick · Post Post #55 (isolation #5) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:19 am

VOTE: Klazam

Klick · Post Post #59 (isolation #6) » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:35 am

Klazam, who is town?

Klick · Post Post #108 (isolation #7) » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:54 am

BC, you do in fact realize that claiming this means you will die?

Klick · Post Post #162 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:03 pm

Nah, Smash is town.

Klick · Post Post #182 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:30 am

I'ma go ahead and do this - I'm a Neighbor with Smash. He's been obvious town since before the game started.

This Neighborhood has four members, which means that, if anyone really doesn't believe me on Smash being obvious town, I'm fine with someone else claiming to confirm it.

We only have Night talk, but were able to talk the first 24 hours of Day 1.

So yeah, all votes off Smash pl0x

Klick · Post Post #184 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:47 am

I know, and one of the other Neighbors is probably Mafia. A four-man Neighborhood with all-town is a little unbalanced.

I revealed it because he's obvious town, and by the looks of his posts here, he was probably going to get lynched.

Klick · Post Post #185 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:49 am

I'll put it this way: I was able to make a case for him being obvious town before our QT closed.

Klick · Post Post #193 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:27 am

It's really not too big of a deal. If suspects are narrowed down to 1/2, I should be able to gather reads more easily.

Klick · Post Post #196 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:00 am

1. That won't happen

2. It would protect the other PRs

Klick · Post Post #204 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:26 am

well y-you're not nice

Klick · Post Post #224 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:16 pm

V/LA until Saturday.

Klick · Post Post #296 (isolation #16) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:25 pm

Back.

Pretty much inte's post. I'm tired.

Klick · Post Post #303 (isolation #17) » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:47 am

VOTE: Dajudge

Why the hell would you point it out if you thought it was a good idea for the Mafia?

Klick · Post Post #305 (isolation #18) » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:55 am

Kay

VOTE: Klazam

Klick · Post Post #321 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:55 am

Seriously? Four-person?

Klick · Post Post #328 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:22 pm

VOTE: kdowns

Klick · Post Post #334 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:55 pm

kdowns has actually done absolutely nothing in this game.

Klick · Post Post #395 (isolation #22) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:41 am

Based on that post alone, I'm going to say NS/BC.

Klick · Post Post #403 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:11 pm

hey i know you

Klick · Post Post #406 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:19 pm

kj, I'm kondi.

Klick · Post Post #419 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:19 pm

I've just had a revelation that makes NS an even better lynch (or shos, if you swing that way). However, revealing it would be a terrible idea.

Klick · Post Post #432 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:58 am

OH GOD

@Mod: Deadline extension? Don't really need too much time, we should be able to get a lynch off soon. As little as one day.

Made it at the two minute mark.

Klick · Post Post #434 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:21 am

Oops, 10 PM.

Vote NS

Klick · Post Post #438 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:47 am

That made me laugh.

(GAR I was telling people to vote him, I'm already voting him)

Klick · Post Post #443 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:06 pm

-_-

If you forgot, how can you penalize us for forgetting?

~No one is being penalized. I just want everyone to be on the same page when it comes to votes.~

Klick · Post Post #447 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:55 pm

I see what you did there, DN.

Klick · Post Post #460 (isolation #31) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:55 am

So we agreed that the scum were probably within {Melmond, Xis, BC, DJ}.

Klick · Post Post #472 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:12 am

VOTE: BC Claim your card now.

Klick · Post Post #480 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:31 am

Meh, he's probably town, but policy lynch is policy

Klick · Post Post #482 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:35 am

Actually, we probably have two scum left, so no, we don't need to.

VOTE: Xis

Klick · Post Post #485 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:40 am

I actually can't be scum.

Klick · Post Post #488 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:47 am

In my Role PM.

Also in the fact that two scum in a four-person neighborhood is really unlikely, as the proportion of scum-town between the Neighborhood and the non-Neighborhood are likely equal.

Klick · Post Post #525 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:02 pm

Xis, what website did you come from?

Klick · Post Post #533 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:04 am

I don't think DN would name it like that. I think he would just call it "bodyguard".

Regardless, we could tack him onto protecting a certain player.

Klick · Post Post #535 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:35 am

Xis could be locked onto a PR.

Klick · Post Post #557 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:37 am

Who cares?

Klick · Post Post #562 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:13 am

Klick · Post Post #563 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:14 am

WAIT A SECOND UNVOTE:

DN, is that VC correct?

~By my count, yes.~

Klick · Post Post #567 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:21 am

Since BC refused to ask the Mod, I will:

@Mod: If you were to use a role in your setup that modified votes needed to lynch someone, would you express it via VC?

Klick · Post Post #571 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:33 pm

So DN answered via PM for some reason. He basically said "probably not."

VOTE: Xis

Klick · Post Post #574 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:06 pm

In post 88, BloodCovenent wrote:
In post 87, adorkable wrote:
In post 85, BloodCovenent wrote:
In post 83, Smashbard wrote:Claiming hated townie right off the bat seems odd. I thought it was just a joke at first or reaction fishing but Blood is sticking to his claim. I don't think scum would do this right off the bat knowing that such a move would attract a lot of attention. Unfortunately there's no way to know for sure beyond testing it, which unless Blood does something truly scummy I don't think is a good idea.

DaJudge doing a fake daykill on the claimed Hated Townie is also very weird. Very opportunistic reaction fishing, considering he's already claimed to of found scum in Klazam which reads to me more like OMGUS against Klazam's vote rather than actual confidence in his read.

It's a lot like claiming Miller, you do it in for first post, or you get lynched for claiming it any other time.

It is my role, and it's just a precaution, so that everyone knows that if i'm at L-2, i'm really at L-1.

Do you know/can you ask the mod whether or not that would show up in a vote count? I mean, we kind of doubt it, but can't hurt to find out if it might confirm your role.

I'm fairly positive that it won't show up in a VC, and therefore i don't feel the need to contact the mod regarding that.

Klick · Post Post #576 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:15 pm

Understandable.

Klick · Post Post #580 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:35 am

I want a massclaim, starting with Whiskers and ending with Smash.

Klick · Post Post #582 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:59 am

Not really. Smash and I are practically confirmed town, and if I were an outsider, Smash would be more town than myself.

Klick · Post Post #584 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:09 am

Nope. If you're scum, you aren't going to kill yourself.

Klick · Post Post #593 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:59 am

No you're not.

Klick · Post Post #599 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:18 pm

(hint: Dajudge)

Klick · Post Post #603 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:04 pm

Hmm.

There are SO many problems with that post, and it makes me really feel that he's scum, but he claimed a role that basically guarantees his death.

Klick · Post Post #607 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:07 pm

Dajudge, what's your reason for wanting Smash to claim before inte?

Klick · Post Post #644 (isolation #54) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:59 am

I'm The KKK. I'm just a Neighbor.

This game is pretty simple, and is going to come down to Whiskers/inte at the worst.

We're lynching BC today. Then, either the secret kill goes through and both me and Smash die, or only one kill happens and just one of us dies. Either way, we force the no-lynch until there's LyLo after that.

Then, at LyLo, you lynch Dajudge, and we decide TODAY, NOT THEN who is going to hammer if it comes down to that.

And that is all we're doing today, discussing who we want dead between Whiskers and inte.

Klick · Post Post #646 (isolation #55) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:15 am

Alright, I'll wait for the answer.

Klick · Post Post #654 (isolation #56) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:41 am

Expected answer.

@Mods: If you had a Rolestopper in your setup, would it be unaffected by possible day actions as well?

Klick · Post Post #656 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:58 am

(pretty sure there's supposed to be an "if" between "and" and "there")

I'm actually really positive scum is in {BC, DJ} at this point, and both will end up dead by the end of this game. My question to the Mod will just determine how long we will have to wait until then.

Klick · Post Post #661 (isolation #58) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:15 pm

Hmm. DN has a thing about answering questions via PM. Good modding.

He basically said that he understood the intent of my question, and that if he had a role in the game like the one Whiskers has claimed, it would be immune to Day actions as well.

This is a problem, as Whiskers claimed that it was untargetable by Night actions. This doesn't make me fully suspicious of Whiskers, but I'm about in-between on his alignment.

However, we can gamble.

inte claimed Doc. Since the scum would be retarded to kill anyone but me or Smash, I want inte to RANDOMLY choose between the two of us for his protection.

If his protection succeeds, we lynch Whiskers tomorrow, and if necessary, inte will hammer DJ the next day for victory.

...

While typing, I realized the flaw in this. There's the possible Poisoner.

Screw this, it's probably BC. inte, follow the plan if it's not.

VOTE: BC

Klick · Post Post #664 (isolation #59) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:27 pm

It came up because of the unexplained kill.

I have no idea how often they're used. How is it relevant?

Klick · Post Post #675 (isolation #60) » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:25 pm

BC, what one person do you think is scum?

Klick · Post Post #688 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:38 am

That was the best kill for anyone remaining.

Smash, the Mafia obviously have fakeclaims due to NS' claim. Why would I have the need to claim a rasict role?

Plus, Xis didn't have a rasict role. Plus, it said in the first post somewhere that flavor has no correlation with role. (but I doubt it; the Neighbors were all rasict-like)

PEdit: Since when was I your greatest suspect?

Klick · Post Post #690 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:56 am

So your problem is that you think I'm responsible for the second kill. It seemed to me that you came to that conclusion using PoE. Can you explain to me why neither Whiskers nor into could know about it?

Klick · Post Post #698 (isolation #63) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:09 am

It doesn't really hurt me. I know the neighbors are both town.

Plus, I wasn't exactly thinking about what the best NK for scum would be until after it happened.

Klick · Post Post #703 (isolation #64) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:49 am

How does that tie into me being scum?

Klick · Post Post #707 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:18 am

There's obviously only one left, Whiskers. And neither Smash nor inte had a chance to hammer me.

Klick · Post Post #709 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:30 am

Five scum in a 12 player game? No.

The only logical solution left is that the Mafia have two kills in some way. Ergo, Poisoner or something.

Klick · Post Post #720 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:50 am

THERE ARE NOT FIVE SCUM IN THIS GAME.

The most logical explanation right now is that the last Mafia has a Poisoner ability. This would explain why there hasn't been an unexplained kill on any night other than N2. This would also make a No Lynch terrible.

Klick · Post Post #721 (isolation #68) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:53 am

Oh crap, forgot that two kills were used on DaJudge last night.

Klick · Post Post #722 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:54 am

Where did Melmond's kill go N1? Smash?

That would mean inte is town.

Klick · Post Post #723 (isolation #70) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:55 am

VOTE: Whiskers

Klick · Post Post #725 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:57 am

Klick · Post Post #728 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:02 am

Whiskers is untargetable...

Klick · Post Post #730 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:06 am

UNVOTE: Crap - I can't discount the possibility that Whiskers is town and Melmond targeted him.

PEdit: Exactly...

Klick · Post Post #738 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:38 pm

In post 720, Klick wrote:THERE ARE NOT FIVE SCUM IN THIS GAME.

Klick · Post Post #741 (isolation #75) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:43 pm

Actually, I've been in a game more swingy than that. 7-2-2-1. Town, Mafia, Cult, SK.

But no. That can't be the case here.

Klick · Post Post #743 (isolation #76) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:51 pm

I'm pretty sure that was an extremely rare case.

Klick · Post Post #747 (isolation #77) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:42 pm

Because I'm not the Vig. -_-

Smash has suspected that I'm the Vig and hiding it since last night started. No one here could possibly be a Vig in my eyes.

Klick · Post Post #766 (isolation #78) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:34 am

Exactly. Whiskers wouldn't have claimed if he wasn't sure that:

a. There was another scum
b. He could win by claiming even without another scum

I don't see how it could possibly be a.

Klick · Post Post #769 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:15 am

Hmm.

What's your power?

Klick · Post Post #772 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:11 am

Maybe it's because I'M NOT A FREAKING KILLING ROLE

TWO SKS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE IN A MINI OR REALLY ANY GAME

I'm waiting for Whiskers to answer me before I post again.

Klick · Post Post #775 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:48 am

Hmm.

@Mod: If there was one scum left, would they be able to use their kill and ability at the same time? (I'm not using this to make a case

)

Klick · Post Post #777 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:14 pm

Well, I'm using it to decide what we should do today.

I doubt the answer is yes, but I'm still asking.

Klick · Post Post #779 (isolation #83) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:16 pm

Whiskers, I suspect that you're lying about your ability.

Klick · Post Post #781 (isolation #84) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:52 pm

Me? Over the claimed Mafia?

Klick · Post Post #783 (isolation #85) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:08 pm

Well, I was the last one to post...

The game is likely over, but I'm waiting for my question.

Klick · Post Post #785 (isolation #86) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:49 pm

I'll answer that after my mod question is answered, but why the hell would you offer this in the first place?

Klick · Post Post #793 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:05 am

I was going to offer that Whiskers could kill me tonight if he couldn't use two abilities, but this works too.

I'm town.

Klick · Post Post #798 (isolation #88) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:05 am

Not willing to believe you're not the last scum.

If this was 7-5, I'm going to blame the mod. Period.

Klick · Post Post #802 (isolation #89) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:53 am

Klick · Post Post #804 (isolation #90) » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:09 pm

OH I thought I was voting.

Anyway, this officially proves that I am what I say I am. Which means we can now do this the safe way. I planned on having this done on myself since I was the most heavily suspected, but now I'm confirmed town.

I'm going to wait for the Mod's response before we do this.

Klick · Post Post #809 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:28 am

Alright. I was just making sure Whiskers couldn't possibly double-kill.

We no-lynch. Inte protects me. Whiskers kills who she thinks the "second killer" is (hint: if there is one, it's probably not Smash). We lynch Whiskers tomorrow, regardless of his shot.

Now, the only flaw in this is that the second killer may decide to shoot town. Their fate isn't decided by their own actions. I suggest that, if his kill really plays no factor in whether he wins or not, that he help the team that he feels deserves the win if he can't.

Any objections?

Klick · Post Post #811 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:43 am

I would have hammered you...

Klick · Post Post #814 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:35 pm

No, I'm willing to lynch if both of you disagree.

Klick · Post Post #821 (isolation #94) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:56 am

Inte, throughout the next post, I'm going to be assuming that you're the SK, a somewhat reasonable assumption from my PoV. If you're not, you can disregard this, and Smash, if you're the SK, you should read this as well. And if I'm right and there is no SK, this post is completely useless.

Your winning is entirely up to Whiskers' shot.

Shooting town or Whiskers will not affect your win condition at all, because your winning is decided upon whether Whiskers shoots you or not. Considering this, treat it like a Kingmaker with a chance of winning. Kill someone from the team that deserves the win less. If you can't win, let the team that lynched two of their scum in three days win insted of the mafia that was down to one by N2.

Klick · Post Post #822 (isolation #95) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:57 am

instead*

Klick · Post Post #824 (isolation #96) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:53 am

Because you're already a claimed Doctor.

Klick · Post Post #826 (isolation #97) » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:55 am

Hmm.

VOTE: Whiskers

The Mafia didn't have a Bodyguard and a role that couldn't be targeted.

Klick · Post Post #832 (isolation #98) » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:55 am

-_-

VOTE: No Lynch

Klick · Post Post #841 (isolation #99) » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 pm

Inte, how could the second kill possibly come from Whiskers?

Klick · Post Post #846 (isolation #100) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:53 am

VOTE: Whiskers

Klick · Post Post #848 (isolation #101) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:41 am

I would have hammered you yesterday.

It's basically a choice between claimed scum and slightly possible third party that played incredibly well for me.

Klick · Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:09 am

Night actions?

Klick · Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:20 am

Oh, when I last looked, it said "placeholder."

Klick · Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:26 am

OH, Melmond was an SK that could screw around and kill from the dead?

Klick · Post Post #880 (isolation #105) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:47 pm

Sorry DN, but I agree with Whiskers. The unexplainable kill caused Whiskers to claim scum.

Klick · Post Post #883 (isolation #106) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:07 pm

Normally, you expect kills to come from a live player source. That would lead to the assumption that someone is lying, and therefore scum. I agree that Whiskers didn't necessarily need to claim there, but if any of the other two scum were the last alive, it would have been a huge problem.