Mafia 86: X-Men Mafia GAME OVAH!

[Phoebus]

vote:blackhawk

Just a feeling...nothing more...nothing less.

I'd lean towards the sentinels for the crushed Jean Grey...

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Anyone wanna refute this one?
Otherwise I suggest we look for someone else...

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Phoebus, we don't want to make this a game of "let's force everyone to claim on day 1." We also don't want to lynch any obvious good guys...

Agreed. Bandwagoning for claims is definitely not the way to play mafia.
However, Wolverine seems to be quite a good guy despite his problems...however many they might be.

But then again...I also agree that not all roles need be what they are "supposed" to be...

unvote:blackhawk

I'd rather

vote:chaotic_diablo

for putting blackhawk two votes away from a lynch. Isn't a two player team the complement we have to worry about? Especially with a Sk running around too (apparently).

Or are you the Sk yourself diablo? hoping that both mafia will end the lynch? But then again...they won't make it that obvious.

So maybe you are a mafia hoping the Sk will vote and incriminate himself?

Forgive the ranting. I'm just thinking out loud.

[Phoebus]

Nightcrawler is Mystique's son. Anything is possible with him. What's to say he's not joined forces with his mother?

Teleporting with someone? Does that mean you protect them or something?
Need more information.

The last time I've seen this claim used, it was scum talking (and making a false claim)
Since the conditions of the role seem to have been modified, I shall accept that this role is real for bloojay must've picked it up after liking it in the previous Mafia game (Cartoon Network if anyone's interested) but I still am not convinced you are pro-town.

I have a bad feeling about this for I think that not all roles are what they seem to be in this game...I'd examine blackhawk a little more closely too but first, the matter in hand must be dealt with.

The vote stays for now.

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That's too many vigis if you ask me.
Unless someone can confirm

all

Sentinels explode (given that more exist) whence it would make sense. But then the confirmee if they were other than the mod, should *probably* be lynched
I'm sceptical as to that. Also, what of the suffocation death on N1. That has not recurred. That *might* be a vig, who in that case was very idiotic going after someone on N1. But it seems more likely that it's a very limited Sk or one who chose not to kill last night (or was blocked) or we have another doc.

I dunno what happened with korais or how blackhawk guessed he was a sentinel, I think it was some sort of kamikaze role as far as Wolverine was concerned, taking out his attacker. This does not make sense why he was on the dining table and the Sentinel outside but I'd think that it was the story gone awry a bit.

Looking back at posting patterns, korais had one whole post before night1, I'm thinking (assuming we have a party of 3 scum) that there is one more flying under the radar a la MGIA and ID is probably the other, but he's the one who's slightly vocal. We can't have 'em all silent can we?

I want night choice from ID or I shall vote for him.

Ben, are you so naive as to think all Cyclops can do is blind people? Duh! No! I eally don't think so.
I'll concede you seem to be clueless in most games and a townie in the end. Odds say you're due for a scum role but hey! it's not necessary. Meta gaming isn't too healthy I guess but while your behaviour is not *unusual*, I'd be keeping an eye on you where you play an X-men game without knowing the Sentinels.
Um..I'll admit I've encountered new ones on that site bloojay linked us to...but Sentinels?!
Maybe you should have done your homework or maybe you're just using that show of naivity to conceal something.

The point is: I don't think you're scum but I needed to rant somewhat and I got my eyes on you.

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Yeah, kinda good going mafia but that's beside the point.

Going with a gut feeling, I'm going to

fos:MGIA

for laying low a la korais the whole of day one and killing off ID with nothing more than a 'I don't buy that defence"

Can you explain your below the radar act?

Now that we know that blackhawk has gone seriously evil or the roles, I wonder if it's time to mass role claim? Because with the pattern that's emerging, the pure ill logic of it all might help us catch scum.

Thoughts?

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I really doubt that there would be three mafia (one of which could blow up two others)

and

and SK. Too far fetched if you ask me.
However, the two deaths on N1 are worrying - one by suffocation like JEEP was killed and the other crushed apparently by korais. How did JEEP kill? Could he fake alterior kill methods?

I'm almost convinced MGIA is mafia. But have no clues to be definite about.
It's either him or Scalebane but more MGIA,

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Interesting Scalbane. Who were your other targets?

ben, my apologies. Am not calling you

stupid[/i] in any way. I was just ranting.

Our esteemed mod: Apologies to you also. That's what you get for being all 'b', buddies and attending the same school.

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It's a generic term Gnomie. Are you claiming that ice girl then? Emma Frost? or Mystique?

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Well, then I am the only townie without any night abilities.
I'm Juggernaut. I intended to come to the Institute to take out Xavier, my brother, but I have forgotten my helmet wherever it is I call my base and without it, I'm powerless.

I'd like to take this moment to point you towards the signup thread where

bloojay

linked us to a site from where he would be taking the roles. All roles till now have been from there. He only said he'd take others if he ran out of ideas. I still see a couple there unused.
As you might notice, Gambit

is not

on the list. Ben's choices till now also have been conveniently dead people. Co-incidence?
~shrug~ You tell me...

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The reason most of them are dead people, is because over 1/2 of the people in this game are dead!

True...true. Who are your suspects then?

It would help if kleimar told us his targets too. Did you get any notice if you managed to protect or block?

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Good enough.
Personally, I think 3 killers (total) would be a limit for a mini usually and with the Sk and one mafia down, I'd think there would be only one mafioso left. 4/12 killers is a little too much me thinks.
I'm leaning towards voting for ben and seeing how it plays out.
Any reasons we shouldn't vote him?

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Meh. I know I'm innocent. I believe Scalebane and kleimar gives off good vibes. MGIA being given as innocent is good enough for me.

I'll

vote: bigbwenwd

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If I were mafia, why would I build a defense and vote against my teammate? especially when so few people are left, and it takes so few to lynch. and who said ther were four mafia? know something we don't scalebane?

fos:scalebane

You would vote against your team mate to either give him an alibi when you were lynched or give yourself an alibi when he was lynched. You'd know for sure that no other scum mate could get incriminated because there would be none.
However, I'm not your team mate and I'm also fairly certain that there won't be more than 3 individual killer roles in a mini, especially in one where one of the mafia could explode and take two (or was it three?) others with him. Those numbers just don't work out. I'm sure our mod has learned his lesson from Justice League Mafia and hence the innovative roles with Xavier being SK. Those lessons don't pertain only to role names but ability balancing as well. I'm sure you can see that for yourselves.

And as to the question about me being townie with no abilities, if I were scum, I would've just stated the fact baldly and given no explanation. I have not made up the 'forgotten' helmet part, the mod has for sake of gameplay. If I were scum, I'd probably have said something along the lines of I'm immune to all kinds of attack because of my belligerence or something. Remember that Juggernaut has some mystical power that grants him great resistance to injury. That is perfect for me to claim some sort of kill/lynch immunity if I were scum. I am not.
Without my helmet, I can be killed at night as well as lynched during day. My one weakness is exposed as my helmet was my source of power. No helmet = no power. It's a straight enough equation for me.

Vote for ben. I doubt you'll regret it. I'm 99.99% sure he's scum, the last 00.01% given out to randomness. If randomness wins, then like Scalebane said, well played scum, whomever you are...but even then I don't think all is lost since I'm also quite convinced 4 individual killers are a really high improbabilty bordering on impossibility.

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Scalebane and kleimar, we need your targets from last night.
Night 3 must mean Emma (Gnome) Frost was out of town, right?

The only one who could be (at least, according to my investigations) guilty is either myself or kleimar.

I can't believe you said that Scale. No self respecting townie would. If it weren't for your mentioning your suspicion of Jeep earlier.

I'd go for a no lynch too. We just need to hear about your targets first.
Also,

mod:

4 alive....majority is three isn't it?

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It will tell us when he says whether he got a result or not.

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You don't need to. I just assumed odd nights. And as kleimar pointed out...it was night 4 anyways.

Scale: Who was your target?!
And also, of the four of us..who've you not investigated yet?

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Scale, what are your results like? Do you get good/evil ; mafia/not mafia?

I've been thinking of some possible scenario for night actions pending a no lynch and this info would help.
As would Gnome telling us which nights (s)he is away. But that info is still optional.
The more info we go into night with, the better off we are...

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I'd suggest Scale and kleimar targetting each other.

If I die, we get a result.
If Gnome dies, we still get a result.
If no one dies and Scale returns no result:
A) He's scum.
B) Gnome is (I don't quite subscribe to this but hey! I know only my alignment here)
If no one dies and scale gets a result, hot diggedy dog.
If Scale dies, our choice is pretty much made up I'd say.
If kleimar dies. We have some tough decisions ahead.


Saying all this, I'll

vote:no lynch

2) Scale's scum, kleimar targeted him and blocked his kill.

This does bring interesting dimensions to the game and is quite possible. Notice the deadline was for Sunday and we have dawn within 24 hours....

~sigh~

[Phoebus]

My very first bah post!!

Bah! Go town!!

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Wooohooo!
First town role, first town victory. Excellent!
Well played y'all.
So Gnome's scenario did play out after all...
kleimer you did well, nothing more might have been done I guess. Scale sums it up when he said that your role was too much in character given the nature of this game. Oh and ben, yeah...do your homework next time. First time I heard of Frost, Iceman or Juggernaut but I read up on bloojay's site. Helped a fair bit.

A big thanks to

bloojay!

. Good game, well done!