1371: Futurama Mafia! (Game Over!)

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VOTE: AngryPidgeon

Q can be a number.

/wagontoppler

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Lots of questions begged there

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I voted Pidgeon

Darn those second votecounts of the day. Always the hardest. Thanks, fixed.
- Robo

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confirm vote

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Hurr durr, pidgeon is role-fishing obv scum.

Glad you agree. Now vote yourself.

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One of you 2 is scum. Probably Acosmist.

So vote me. Immediately.

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I thought about a mass character claim and realized that if I were scum, that would be what I would fear the most. I would be unsure of claiming a major character early. I also wouldn't want to claim last because mafia would be expected to claim last and those claiming last would look suspicious. So, claiming a little before last would be optimal but then if some townies are still unclaimed, I wouldn't be able to claim a major character. So, if I were scum, I would hate mass-claiming in a game with a limited number of characters.

So, yes, I am down for a mass-claim. We have two ways to go about it. Popcorn style where we force claims or just naturally let it unfold and see who claims when and who claims last.

The one thing that could mess up this plan is if mafia were gives safe fake-claims. I am relatively new to mafiascum so can someone explain how common safe claims are and how likely it is that the mafia could have recieved safe claims?

safe claims are given as a matter of course. Mods who design games that can be broken by massclaims are laughed off the site.

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VOTE: Acosmist
In a game of LoL cant respond right away

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so he should be able to conclude that as a scum I would know to avoid dropping what I know is seen as a scumtell.

any case based on WIFOM is shit

Any particular reason you're making shitty cases, then?

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safe claims are given as a matter of course. Mods who design games that can be broken by massclaims are laughed off the site.

I've seen enough fakeclaims to be able to spot one, scumbag, You go first.

So after I fakeclaim, you will?

That's quite an admission! Why would you want to fakeclaim?

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Hurry up, read my sig.

And for you to be sure that I mean bizniss:
VOTE: Acosmist

OK then, Internet Tough Girl.

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Fakeclaim - as in safeclaim.

Right, that is a thing which town does not ever have to do.

So...

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Acosmist is a legitimate quicklynch as of now.

So you want:

1. an early end to day 1

2. an early claim

3. a fakeclaim from a townie

And after that, you will fakeclaim.

Well gosh, this was a productive day, Yates! I mean, DGB.

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lol

no.

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ITT: scum are really excited that they got main characters as fakeclaims

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String him up, please.

Accept no mercy.

*her

incoming ironclad case

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I thought about a mass character claim and realized that if I were scum, that would be what I would fear the most. I would be unsure of claiming a major character early. I also wouldn't want to claim last because mafia would be expected to claim last and those claiming last would look suspicious. So, claiming a little before last would be optimal but then if some townies are still unclaimed, I wouldn't be able to claim a major character. So, if I were scum, I would hate mass-claiming in a game with a limited number of characters.

So, yes, I am down for a mass-claim. We have two ways to go about it. Popcorn style where we force claims or just naturally let it unfold and see who claims when and who claims last.

The one thing that could mess up this plan is if mafia were gives safe fake-claims. I am relatively new to mafiascum so can someone explain how common safe claims are and how likely it is that the mafia could have recieved safe claims?

safe claims are given as a matter of course. Mods who design games that can be broken by massclaims are laughed off the site.

This is, for the record, true. You don't mod a game that can be broken by massclaim. SOP is to give scum fakeclaims - sometimes even excellent ones. The fact that no one, not even some people with early join dates, has mentioned a game where some "obvtown obvin" character was given as a fakeclaim is unsettling, but probably awesome, since it constitutes a scumclaim by omission. Thanks, veterans who also are scum!

DGB's proposal was...

Shall we have a character mass-claim?

Character claim. So, claim name, but not role.

But, as before,

massclaims don't break games

. In Classic Rock Mafia, a game I modded, the Rolling Stones were a scum fakeclaim. Lest you think this example is merely drawn from my modded games and not indicative of moderation as a whole, I'll draw from a source I know: Ghostbusters II Mafia had Egon Spengler (

Egon freaking Spengler

) as a fakeclaim.

Lesson to be drawn: nameclaims do not break games. Ceteris paribus, I am not going to assume that this is a broken game.

Now, here's DGB's join date:

Joined : December 23, 2005

OK. DGB's has constructive knowledge of all that I just said. That is, I am imputing knowledge to her whether she actually has it or not - people who aren't new to the game of mafia and aren't new to the site know things as simple as the your-game-can't-be-ruined-by-massclaim modding principle.

However...

safe claims are given as a matter of course. Mods who design games that can be broken by massclaims are laughed off the site.

I've seen enough fakeclaims to be able to spot one, scumbag, You go first.

Really?

You can spot a fakeclaim when

there can be no correlation between name and alignment?

Remember, folks, mass

name

claim was the proposed strategy. Names don't correlate to alignment (see above modding principle). But DGB can tell a fake name from a real name?

Whatever the wisdom of a mass nameclaim on day 1 (hey, we're not even discussing that, are we? We're just kind of having a minority of people say they want to do it, and having them try to muscle everyone else into doing it. Yay oligarchy!), there is no way someone can tell from a bare nameclaim whether that claim is fake. DGB has played mafia on here long enough to know that. Therefore, she's BSing.

Since I've seen no attempt to back down from this hilariously self-negating behavior...

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

On the Yates principle (i.e., objectively bad play from a good player = scum), DGB is scum.

Lynch at will, folks.

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ITT: scum are really excited that they got main characters as fakeclaims

Did you? So why aren't you claiming him/her then?

No. No I did not.

Wanna contribute, or just, just this? Can we policy vig this guy tonight? tia

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If Leila is a fake claim, then.... ????

More like ITT: Acosmist's jimmies are rustled because he has mo good fake claim.

Egon Spengler, fakeclaim in Ghostbusters! HOW HILARIOUS!

Seriously, learn that name != jack crap

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whoever dgb exempts can skip it obvi, she knows what she's doing

Objectively false, for the reasons I mentioned. In fact, the entire strategy is worthless on its face. Why are you accepting something worthless on its face? Do you have a history of being that bad at mafia that I can refer to?

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I was in this game. What a world!