20th-Century Philosophy Mafia (Mini 1388) Game Over

[Benmage]

/confirm

Confirming in thread is foolish.

We all have our PMS.... the game might not yet be open, but everything you say counts.

Go.

[Benmage]

Woah GreyIce, its too early to be bussing. Buddying is better early anyways.

Follow my lead: Everyone looks town.

[Benmage]

Obvscum...

[Benmage]

MoI, can I just sheep you?

[Benmage]

How have 11 other people not posted for 36 hours

[Benmage]

@shos ikr?

Seriously though, has anything of note happened other than GreyICE's joke claims? Sticking with Ben because of the sheep post.

Do you have precedents of scum doing that?

[Benmage]

Can the peanutgallery (inte) please save the commentary for after the QnA.

[Benmage]

Odd angle, but ok.

Unvote vote Benmage

[Benmage]

Of course I do. What a silly question.

Can you link the game please.

[Benmage]

Yeeesh, I didn't realize this game recruited such peewee level players.

[Benmage]

MOD no power... I live in NY long island... please don't replace.

[Benmage]

Hey, still no power... and I have to burrow car chargers for phone.

[Benmage]

Benmage and Grey

– to the Dunham wagon!!!! Engaging Sheeping!!!!

Unvote vote Dunham

I'm sorry but with my limited time I have little interest in reading 10 pages.

So Baaaaaa (moi'sobviouslytown,yesiambuddying)

[Benmage]

I hope fourtrouble is not related to fourseencircum.

[Benmage]

v/la until November 13. I am in Thailand on holiday. Read the first three pages and think inte is scum. Later.

?!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!why the fuck would thisperson join the game.....

MOD force replace.

[Benmage]

Myb on the replacement guy, was looking at a few low player isos. (and so I didn't see the mod already handling it... if it weren't for my sketchy internet I'd probably have realized Xi was a replacement)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha jesus what a great wagon.

Benmage, buddy. You look worse than Shadow Dancer.

Such quips do nothing to dissuade me.

I'm really ambivalent to the whole BG claim. I've been BG as scum before(obviously town too)... so the role itself is meh. I tend to hate the role in general, but thats not important. Uhmmmm.... yeah. He's reading less scummy in more recent posts.
***DUN please opt to use your power.

MoI

who else do we have?
-Whatever happened to qwints?

unvote

[Benmage]

Oh yea, and this is still from my phone, although I was able to tether it huzzah!

So continue to bare with me.

[Benmage]

unvote vote Mr. Ree

[Benmage]

^why don't you explain first.

And I guess you're accepting duns statements against yourself.

[Benmage]

Of course I do. What a silly question.

Of course I do. What a silly question.

Can you link the game please.

I don't believe you ever did this request either ree.

[Benmage]

Accepting Dunhams statement? Lol, no. Just goes to show he's still misreading to suit his interests.

You failed to respond... what am I suppose to assume?

I'm voting because you've done absolutely noting useful the entire game except sheep MOI, which, while occasionally useful, has contributed nothing to the game.

So the crux of your complaint to me is a lack of contribution. Despite that I only just recently got power back, but still don't have internet due to a Natural Disaster beyond my control.

I guess I'm just going to have to ignore you going forward as basic sense seems to allude you. If someone argued with me that 2+2 = 3 there's is only so many times I could show them their error before giving up on the cause. You appear to be a lost cause.

[Benmage]

Sorry Ben, work got busy. I'll look through MOI's games now. I'm sure I can find evidence of scum sheeping him somewhere.... Actually, since we have an expert on MOI's Meta, Hey Xis, has scum ever sheeped MOI?

So I asked you if you had experience of scum blindly sheeping (in lets say the beginning of a game). You scoffed at my statement, making it appear that you must have a plethora of experience... or atleast some readily available meta to point me to. But you don't..... You just assumed you could dig something up. Well, I'm sure you could dig up town doing the same thing, aye? So that makes that point null at best.

[Benmage]

It's a common theme in my games. Check it out.

Echoing MoI, could you point us to the games we can find examples of this.

@MoI, this wagon is good.

[Benmage]

^agreed inte. You should vote Mr.Ree

Also I really didn't like that last post by SD.. I'll iso her.

[Benmage]

vote projectmatt

[Benmage]

Your vote sucks.

You should switch it. I recommend Pjmatt.

[Benmage]

Sup?

[Benmage]

inte, shos is fairly blatantly town.

Come vote Pjmatt already. If itsa miss, we can do shos tomorrow (hint hint it won't miss)

[Benmage]

inte, shos is fairly blatantly town.

Come vote Pjmatt already. If itsa miss, we can do shos tomorrow (hint hint it won't miss)

Can you explain why Shos is town please.

His illogical and erratic play seems more like misguided town than scum. Call it also gut. His posts read genuine enough.

What are the points for him being scum again?
-Bullets please.

[Benmage]

Lol @ pjmatt voting the lowest hanging fruit.

Lynch pjmatt.
shoot fourtrouble.

[Benmage]

How can you have such a strong read on Fourtrouble? He's got 6 posts.
Also, if Benmage were trying to save his "buddy", why would he nominate him to get shot?

^

ftr FourTrouble+Benmage is looking to be (part of) the scum team, assuming shos is town

inte is so bad. It's not even funny. He's like one of those really shitty comedy movies, where all you do is shake your head.

[Benmage]

How can you have such a strong read on Fourtrouble? He's got 6 posts.
Also, if Benmage were trying to save his "buddy", why would he nominate him to get shot?

I don't have a super strong read but what he's done is bad and the interactions with him are making me think he's a lurker his buddies are desperately trying to protect.

Don't have a strong read...

TY for proving my point on targeting Low hangning fruit. While they can be scum. That doesn't nullify my point. Moreover scum love targeting these easy mislynch targets.

Hence why I (being the awesome player I am) suggested Lynching you (scum) and vigging the vigbait lurker/useless-slot FT.

[Benmage]

vote qwints

I knew not to forget about this one MoI.

Opportunistic scum right here.

[Benmage]

Give me a minute here to catch back up.

[Benmage]

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unvote vote Antihero

[Benmage]

Cheah right. I'd never quickhammer like such as scum.
(old scotsman) Moving past the wifom.

I'd be avoiding the spotlight it'd cause.

Get fucked.

Your shit was scummy as fuck. I can't affect the hurricane. And you attack my contribution. Fucking dumb. I'm happy to have hammered bullshit like that.

[Benmage]

Especially with a vig..

Lol...

Again, glad to hammer the idiocy you spewed.

[Benmage]

I will not be surprised at all if you flip scum.

You entered L-1, and didn't mention anything about claiming.

So what is now that your hammered?

[Benmage]

But, seriously, the hurricane needs to stay out of further discussion because that has literally nothing to do with anything.

A person V/LA will be unable to contribute. I had Limited Access due to the hurricane and was unable to properly contribute. Yet you attacked my contribution.

I.E. you are mentally slow, or you have no idea how to properly play this game.

[Benmage]

Oh lol, you are alive.

unvote vote qwints[/b

You're still a dick.

I still wish I hammered you.

Keep attacking my lack of contribution during a hurricane. I will laugh endgame at you HARDDDD.

[Benmage]

But, seriously, the hurricane needs to stay out of further discussion because that has literally nothing to do with anything.

A person V/LA will be unable to contribute. I had Limited Access due to the hurricane and was unable to properly contribute. Yet you attacked my contribution.

I get that. And I wasn't talking about that.

What nonsense where you talking about?

Me sheeping MoI?

He was obvious town, and I didn't have a good grasp on the game due to limited access, i.e. hurricane.

Unvote vote qwints

[Benmage]

What were you attacking about me and the hurricane nonsense if not my early game absence?

[Benmage]

With a living vig, and scum never wanting spotlight.

You can mark me down as conftown now.

[Benmage]

However, Benmage literally just tried to hammer and win so he's scum.

I'm sorry... in what game is it ever winnable with a quickhammer D2?

[Benmage]

With a living vig, and scum never wanting spotlight.

You can mark me down as conftown now.

hmmm yes this is a good argument

VOTE: Benmage

(redirecters)

This first thing that rationale comes to mind, is REDIRECtors... fuckina I can't remember the last time I've seen one. And thats the first thing you goto. Wowwww.

Well it would be easy enough (tomorrow, since again its D2), if shos said his shot got redirected, to than look back at a statement like this and analyze it.

But to be the first conclusion you come to. Wow.

[Benmage]

I'm sorry... in what game is it ever winnable with a quickhammer D2?

The previous Philosophy Mafia (although scum decided to bus instead). This Philosophy Mafia.

No, mafia could have made D3 mylo, but not have won.... lynching and nk-ing successfully D1/D2.

But back to this game. There's a vig, or other killing entity, so already different game, different mentality. SO how am I scum, going to quickhammer and not be nk'd?

And if you're so concerned about the game ending today, how the hell does any logic in you jump to redirectors. You want to on the one hand be safe? And on the other hand defend your point with a rarely used role, redirector....

[Benmage]

No, mafia could have made D3 mylo, but not have won.... lynching and nk-ing successfully D1/D2.

Day 2: 7 town, 3 mafia. 2 mafia players quickhammer a townie. We'll regard them as 100% outed.
Night 2: 6 town, 3 mafia. Mafia kills a townie.
Day 3: 5 town, 3 mafia. A mafia member is lynched.
Night 3: 5 town, 2 mafia. Mafia kills a townie.
Day 4: 4 town, 2 mafia. A townie is daykilled. A mafia member is lynched.
Night 4: 3 town, 1 mafia. Mafia kills a townie.
Day 5: 2 town, 1 mafia. A townie is daykilled. Mafia victory.

Scum could daykill twice?!?!?!??!?!?!

[Benmage]

So what you need to explain is: why did you try to hammer Antihero with no explanation or claim request, if not to win as scum?

Read the posts 582-594 again.

Then ask yourself, why the person I "quickhammered" isn't voting me.

Then apologize.

[Benmage]

So, instead of refuting my argument or asking for clarification, you thought the most rational course of action was to hammer me without a claim?

You have poor impulse control, sir.

Yeah I was a little pissed, and I can't remember the last time I've been able to hammer. And I did find it odd that you glossed over being at L-1.

[Benmage]

Don't wanna see shos die. Will readup soon.

[Benmage]

We have a watcher, vig, bodyguard, and double voter... we might as well massclaim maybe as I can't imagine more town power.

Or someone is definitely lying.

[Benmage]

Benmage's recent contributions are scummy as hell. His refusal to take a stand seems like scum trying to stay out of it while town fight each other. You've got to have more to say than this:

We have a watcher, vig, bodyguard, and double voter... we might as well massclaim maybe as I can't imagine more town power.

Or someone is definitely lying.

That would require being full concurrent with the game. Which I am not. Perhaps during turkey long weekend I will have time to catch myself up.

[Benmage]

And why is everyone ignoring benmage's scumminess?

Bad deflection.

[Benmage]

Mod never messaged thread was open.

Anyways VT.

Leaf go.

[Benmage]

PoE. Well if it aint me, it has to be inte, leaf, abstas, or ah....

I'm probably happiest with abstas.

[Benmage]

Id lynch inte, only if it came to me or him.

I really think he's town otherwise his style of gameplay is insulting to the integrity of the game. I.e. whimsical noncontribution.

So anyways,

vote absta101

[Benmage]

hes been on EVERY single lynch zzz...

So?

[Benmage]

No I am town. Obviously. And scum just swept, gj scrubs.

[Benmage]

No I am town. Obviously. And scum just swept, gj scrubs.

[Benmage]

so you've obviously been pushing only town lynches

Two lynches.... lol, its called progression, the game needs flips.

Whatever this terrible town /game is over. Good riddance.

[Benmage]

Oh if the game isn't over, I guess if the scum team is 2 or shos is an sk.... or both of those are true .... lynch absta, ah, leaf in that order.

[Benmage]

^must be scum too...

[Benmage]

Replacements + weak town. Meh gg.

[Benmage]

What's ninja?

[Benmage]

Ninja, BP, RB .... wow.

Vig hits town.. or gets blocked. Or gets watched by watcher and outted for a kill. Lynching a PR and outting another in one awesome blow.

Who the fuck cleared this game as balanced?

Watcher can't see ninja... why give scum a counter to everything town has??? Town is suppose to counter scum zzzz.

[Benmage]

Also why didn't we nameclaim on the last day? I mean I was scum so I rolled with it but...

As disconnected as I was....

Inte, was simply atrocious.

[Benmage]

You played terribly, so. zzzz

Has no relevance to a poorly balanced game. TY.

The ninja means the watcher fails to get information. Again, it doesn't put false info there. If there were a tracker, the ninja could be tracked and get no result, making the tracker think the ninja did nothing. The interaction with a watcher is to fail to provide info, not to provide false info.

Exactly... where is the town able to catch any scum with PRs? Scum NK can't be tracked. Scum GF can't be NK'd. Vigs sitewide hit town more often than not... There was a MD suggesting too complex games, too much town PR interacts and actually makes it worse for town. Plus mods, like yourself over compensate for town strength by making scum too Powerful.

Look town played bad. I myself admit I played bad. The scum, outside players, and pretty much everyone is in agreeance this game was scum/heavily scum sided.... Yet you're too prideful to admit this?

[Benmage]

benmage is just sour grapes. No need to get bent out of shape, Acosmist.

Not really. We lost. Everyone played shitty. Replacements make the game bleh (but thats pretty much all games these days). But to say this game isn't scum sided, is simply comical. I don't get why Acos is getting all pissy. Very few mods really get balance . (statistically with the site, I'm usually way more happy to see a town sided setup than a scum sided one.)

He's also an idiot for thinking he can be on every town lynch without repercussions

Welcome to a fucking mini. Being on 2 lynches in a mini is nothing. If this was a large and I pushed thru 4 mislynches, okay.

But 2... get fuckin real. You rushed lylo, and blew. Period. I had your uselessness as a towntell. You should've had a similar read to me.