Mini 1409: Storm of Songs (GAME OVER)

[killerjester]

Reck told me there was a non-zero chance I'd be a Taylor Swift song so I just came in guns ablazin' ya feel me?

[killerjester]

Vifam made me laugh

VT

[killerjester]

Dex why weren't you watching Kthx last night?

[killerjester]

UT, pls

[killerjester]

NIGGA PLEASE

DO NOT MAKE ME SHOOT YOU TONIGHT

I WILL SHOOT YOU SO FAST

I blame the schools.

[killerjester]

Wait. Guys. Let me break the game before you fucking kill me.

UT is the only claimed vig in a game with 3 killing factions, this essentially makes him confirmed town because I would have serious reservations about an 8:2:2:1 setup. By UT's word of mouth, we can safely believe quadz's inventor claim. Since quadz was jailed the first night, we know the night kill did not come from him. This makes quadz very likely town.

I'm working on the rest but it hinges around Kthx protecting UT, D3x watching either Kthx/UT, and UT going Scarface mode with his Strongman kills - which by the way will not be stopped by a jailer. Because Jailer prevents all kills, not just the first, the only way to kill UT would be for scum to both roleblock Kthx and kill UT, or if Kthx is scum himself.

[killerjester]

Tell me I have something here. I think the right move is to lynch either me/SAD and UT shoot the other.

[killerjester]

Don't even know if there IS scum RB this game, considering quadz was jailed and BBmolla was strongmanned

[killerjester]

Let me make one thing crystal clear.

Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3
Kthx is jailing Untrod Tripod Night 3

You're jailing UT

regardless

of flip. He is town. Jailing does not inhibit his PR. Well, I suppose he can't use his invention but that's the cost of keeping it a secret. Have I made my point? If UT dies Night 3 you're up for the noose next, Kthx.

[killerjester]

Strongman trumps getting jailed/tripping balls/whatever you want to call it. You quoted the wiki so I assume you read it. A strongman kill cannot be prevented by

any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by

Roleblocks

(that last one is functionally what a Jailer does to his target).

He has one unclaimed invention that quadz gave him, but I feel his kill is the more useful of the two skills. It's most important to keep UT alive.

[killerjester]

but he can not kill if he is JK'ed.

Yes he can. You clearly do not understand how Strongman works.

[killerjester]

kdowns

.... goddammit

[killerjester]

KJ: What did you think of your predecessors play? Would you have called him town or went after him for lynch? Why?

I actually have to read the rest of the thread. I'll get back to you on that.

[killerjester]

You are a doctor + roleblocker

A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target.

BBmolla died because protection does not stop Strongman.
UT can shoot because roleblocking does not stop Strongman.

[killerjester]

the mod just confirmed this with me. If I am JK'd I will NOT be able to kill.

So there probably isn't anything entirely gamebreaking. Still on board with lynching SAD and shooting myself, or vice versa. Do we wanna end the day now or get reads on everyone first?

[killerjester]

KJ, who would you put money on being scum out of those left? PR or no PR.

Eh I've been townhunting more at this point but I'll give it a go.

Quadz08
Untrod Tripod
- I've expressed both of these fine gentlemen as

town

.

Kthxbye
- Scum isn't likely to fakeclaim a failed protect on a dead scum of opposing faction, and literally

never

on an allied scum. Kthx's assumption that he was roleblocked is one that almost certainly comes from town. A scum would have to not only know that a strongman vig was in the game (if so, why isn't UT dead?), but also that BBmolla's death was the result of the vig instead of the opposing faction.

Town

.

D3x
- Very inclined to call him

scum

. His excuse about mixing up the watcher and tracker roles is shaky at best.

Zoidberg
Ser Arthur Dayne
- It goes without saying the last scum is in this pile. Gut leans SAD, though

[killerjester]

Sure

VOTE: SAD

[killerjester]

Oh that's a good point though, quadz is confirmed not-Mafia.

[killerjester]

do you think all of SAD's talking was a ploy to get us to reconsider killing him?

I doubt it, he doesn't seem too over the top about us killing him.

[killerjester]

Lynch me if you seriously think I'm PGO

iain'tevenscum.jpg

[killerjester]

Better me than a PR

[killerjester]

You do realize you could hammer SAD and shoot Zoid. It achieves the same effect of your asserted plan of lynching Zoid and shooting SAD.

[killerjester]

VC or w/e

killerjester (1): quadz08
Zoidberg (2): Untrod Tripod, Ser Arthur Dayne
D3x (0):
Quadz08 (0):
Untrod Tripod (0):
Ser Arthur Dayne (3): d3x, Kthxbye, killerjester
Kthxbye (0):

Not voting: Zoidberg

[killerjester]

Will a scumflip affect your shot tonight?

[killerjester]

Fine VOTE: Zoid

[killerjester]

The plan is to JK me, watch UT/Kthx (don't claim which), give Kthx an invention (scum is likely to kill UT), and UT can shoot whoever he likes.

[killerjester]

did I get that right?

[killerjester]

That's a hammer

[killerjester]

Actually D3x should watch Kthx 100%
quadz should randomly assign his invention 50/50 between Kthx and UT

This method could be used to verify D3x's watcher claim.

[killerjester]

Kthx, are you serious?

UT: What did quadz gift you N2?

Something useful

Were you gifted last night and what was it?

No

(for confirmation sake as opposed to assuming) What was your action last night?

He shot SAD

KJ: Were you gifted last night and what was it?

Yes, a 1-shot tracker

d3x:

WHO CARES, SCUM WATCHER

After all those are answered, I will say what action I took and whether I was gifted or not.

Not gifted, jailed killerjester

Unless you want to tell me scum has 2 factional kills, UT is a town vig and we're lynching D3x today. Go on, tell everyone how you jailed me. Explain to them how I did not kill anyone last night. Beyond that, the symmetry behind Godfather/Watcher and Alpha WW/Tracker is just too perfect.

VOTE: d3x

[killerjester]

End it UT.

[killerjester]

Winning is fun

[killerjester]

GG

Town did really well with the lynches. But yeah, I don't think there was a save for d3x at this point. Even if Kthx had been lynched, I still would be cleared by his flip and UT would know who to shoot.