Khan's Wacky Xylbot Mafia (Mini 1418) - Game Over

[serrapaladin]

/confirm

Hi all, I'm replacing xRECKONERx. I'll be catching up later tonight.

[serrapaladin]

Reread complete and I don't really know what to think.
I definitely want to
!unvote
for now.

I'm inclined to believe Obvious' claim, although it means his townplay hasn't been great. Neither of the cases on TML or Kthxbye are particularly convincing. I would be willing to consider a scooby lynch.

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Serra, was Reck truthful with his claim?

Because you think I might actively contradict my predecessors claim?

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Four strong responses to a bit of harmless sarcasm...wow!

Of course I am a Reincarnator, would Reck really have replaced out if he was running some interesting gambit?

Problem with the question is, I'd answer the same regardless of my alignment and Obvious should know this. In virtually no circumstances would claiming something different be of any use to me. I can only conclude that either Obvious was hoping for a noobslip (fair enough, given my recent join date) or was doing it for towncred.

Statistically, my reincarnation doesn't give swing to any faction. What it does is reduce the uncertainty of my role, giving the game a bit more transparency. Whether this helps town more than other factions I don't know, but I would at least urge my lynch over an NL or for anyone unsure about their NK target to kill me.

[serrapaladin]

!vote scooby

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Sorry for my lack of posting. I've been spending most of the last week in bed and haven't gotten around to getting some concrete reads together.

I thought Kthxbye's softclaim was pretty obvious and given that it's easily confirmable I don't see why people is still going after him. Scumpoints to scooby and Aj for that.

Aj: why is Reck's fakeclaim a good one if it's obviously drawn an NK?

I don't see TML as particularly scummy.

I'd be up for lynching one of Katsuki, shos, scooby or Aj today. Once I feel less dead I'll post something more substantial.

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Serra- Do you have any thoughts on being Kthnx's poisoner target?

I'm probably not the optimal target, but it's good for the game as my role won't remain as much of a wildcard.

I don't think we should lynch any of the claimed roles today.

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Judging by the trial setups, siblings are conftown. He could of course be a fakeclaiming lover, but I'm not sure I see that. TML's sibling shouldn't claim yet.

If it's only between scooby and TML, which given the approaching DL makes sense, I would much prefer scooby. I'll vote TML to avoid an NL, as I'm not certain about his claim, but would prefer someone else.

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I hadn't realized that Xylbot uses a different definition of Siblings to the wiki. In that case, why shouldn't the other sibling claim?

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I'd be fine with an AJ lynch. 781 is a pretty weak final stand.

!vote Aj_The_Epic

(L-1)

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No lynch yesterday bothers me, but I guess Katsuki gets the benefit of the doubt, as her attempt at voting at least seemed genuine.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but given the lack of flavor in flips, we only know that Kthx has access to a night kill, right? In a setup with 1 or 2 mafia factions, Poisoner seems like a possible fakeclaim. I personally don't think he's scummy, but he's far from conftown or even conf-nonscum.

I don't see a good reason for me to claim, my role is now as randomly distributed as each of yours, and you wouldn't just make someone claim at random.

I'm still on for an AJ lynch. His behavior at the end of yesterday didn't sound great, particularly the "please give me another day to prove my towniness" in 781

!vote Aj_The_Epic

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That reaction by Shmugen, despite admitting to limited usefulness for now, strikes me as townie. I have mixed feelings about the sibling situation. If we have a better idea for a poison target, I'd be fine with leaving TML alive.

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Fair enough.
UNVOTE:
I'm not proven town, although I did happen to come back as a townie.

I still don't think Aj should survive on a technicality.

I think multiball seems likely, but we shouldn't base any decisions off of it.

I don't see the wagon on Shmugen, but I'd be willing to revive the scooby wagon from yesterday, or perhaps one on shos.

[serrapaladin]

!unvote

actually.
I'm tired...

[serrapaladin]

Why should Aj live, given he was basically dead yesterday? I agree wagoning him isn't particularly useful, but I also don't think he should get away with it.

[serrapaladin]

Me....prisoner

Slip?

Shmugen has no reason to fakeclaim the role, given that a Delayer can be scum, only question is whether the "town" part is true. I don't have a scumread on him, so I would want to let him live for now. I'd also like to hear his target from last night.

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holy crap, four people dead in one night xD

Why would that surprise you?

I'm guessing/hoping serra got a killing power after reincarnation.

Why would you think that? There are 2 scumfactions with a kill and 1 towndirected kill (I doubt we would have 3 third-party roles and 2 scumfactions).

Now, I'm fairly sure I believe your Poisoner claim, but I guess there is a small chance that this is a well-executed fakeclaim as scum.

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I came back as an Elvis Investigator, which as far as I can tell is basically a Vanilla Townie with some flavor upon death.

wind-up, you're next.

Leafsnail's analysis is correct, besides of course that we can exclude him from the list, but that post makes him look fairly townie. I don't see Aj as Alpha Werewolf baiting the poison, as his survival would make him suspicious.

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I came back as an Elvis Impersonator* (should really stop phoneposting), which as far as I can tell is basically a Vanilla Townie with some flavor upon death.

wind-up, you're next.

Leafsnail's analysis is correct, besides of course that we can exclude him from the list, but that post makes him look fairly townie. I don't see Aj as Alpha Werewolf baiting the poison, as his survival would make him suspicious.

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What gives you the impression I might have a kill? There are one lynch, two factional kills and a poison, taking us to 2 people left tomorrow if all kills go through.

[serrapaladin]

So if Kthx poisons someone, this is basically MyLo. Sort of.

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shos, you should know better than to exclude the opportunity of a bus.

Then, there are almost certainly 2 scum among shos, Aj, Leafsnail and wind-up, so I think both the lynch and poison (if we decide to use both) should be among these 4.

Exactly how much balancing does Xylbot do in Wacky mode? With 6 non-town roles, is it likely we'd have both a Reincarnator (which is arguably not a particularly pro-town PR) and a VT?

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The way I understand the Reincarnator, it starts off as a town-role and is randomized upon death. I don't think it's predetermined what I will come back as (is there a way to get that confirmed?). If I were scum, I'm pretty sure there would still be 2 scum besides me. My alignment will be confirmed as town once the last two scum are dead.

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Actually, that's a good point. Wind-up was around for ages after I popcorned the claim to him... I would prefer to wind-up to go before leaf.

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Meh, I'm in a different timezone and before I posted 1038, I checked your "last logged in," which was after my claim. If you and leaf are cleared, shos/Aj are most likely both scum.

[serrapaladin]

!vote shos

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That's what I gathered from his posting. Otherwise I definitely wouldn't have hammered. My bad if it gave you a scare.

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Hmm, I'm not sure. I was getting a fairly townie vibe from Aj recently, so I'm thinking wind-up might still be scum. Except if that's the case, I don't understand why he would clear leaf with his claim.

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Is there any chance at all of a third scum faction? Otherwise I'm pretty sure town has won.

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I am town, so if only one scum flips, we'll still win.

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We've had 1 setup with mafia1, mafia2 and wolf, but then there were no third-parties. I'd say there's a very slight possibility of a leaf/wind third scumteam?

I believe Aj, so I guess that means wind-up is scum.

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Gaaah, I sort of want to believe both Aj and wind-up. Except that doesn't work. Is there ANY chance of Kthx being scum in a scumfaction with 2 factional kills? Is that possible?

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I am a town Elvis Impersonator, so I guess wind-up must be lying then.

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shos looks pretty certain to be the alpha. I have no idea why scum-windup would clear leaf...

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It's 3.30am here, and I'm just finishing up a shift, so I'm afraid I'll pass.

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you're British?

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Well, in that case if leaf is scum he's won, so I have to:

!vote wind-up wind-up

[serrapaladin]

Yeah.

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Nope. I'm town.

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OMG, is leafsnail also a survivor?

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Yes, but if I had ended up in a 1 on 1 endgame with scum I could have won it for town.

[serrapaladin]

So wind-up, what's up with your super-saint result claim?

[serrapaladin]

gg

[serrapaladin]

Sorry bro.

Also general apologies to people for first being absent and then lurking to stay alive.

[serrapaladin]

I got a lucky revive-role and played a boringly antitown game :/

[serrapaladin]

Yup, thanks Khan! x

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His claim confused the shit out of me, as it basically made leaf conf-town.