Mini 1416 - Breaking Bad Mafia! ( Game Over! )

[jasonT1981]

Jakes scum, wagon reasons make uber sense.

VOTE: jake

[jasonT1981]

Anyone NOT voting Jake after this post will be considered scum buddies and I will pursue your lynch with extreme prejudice throughout the rest of the game

[jasonT1981]

what's 'sup' is your at L-1, bitch!

[jasonT1981]

ok, so what do you have to say... you know, now?

[jasonT1981]

voted Bacde becaue he showed a double vote like behavore

You think there's a scum double voter?

he voted, twice. that y i voted him over nobody special. switched because the bandwagon was still added onto.

if he is a doublevoter he is already more likly mafia than town doublevoter.

I don't think you quite understand what a double voter is.

It is someone whose vote is counted as 2 votes. They only have to vote once for it to be used.

He simply voted twice probably not thinking his vote was already on Jake.

[jasonT1981]

ok, so what do you have to say... you know, now?

Nothing

why the hell not?

[jasonT1981]

not really scummy, Jake flat out refusing to comment on his wagon or even comment on the game is far scummier

[jasonT1981]

@Jake surely town would be trying their best to post useful posts from page 1.

Hi DDDP. Why have you chosen to ignore the other wagons?

Very much agree... Jakes arrogance is what is making him scummy to me. Refusal to answer anything or give his own views.

Jake - Can you give us a list of town/scum reads so far? Does not have to be everyone, just those you are most sure of, please?

not sure of toasty wagon... Jakes was better.

[jasonT1981]

is there anything you DO do? because right now it seems like shit all.

[jasonT1981]

Jake, your attitude in this game is totally horrible and unacceptable. I normally don't call for this, but if you have no interest in making ANY contributions I would ask the mod to force replace you, or for you to replace out... or play the game.

[jasonT1981]

do ou really expect a dude to be making a list on page 3

Jason you're pushing this far too hard.

Maybe, I just want him to actually do something and play the game rather than have the attitude he currently has.

[jasonT1981]

Jake, your attitude in this game is totally horrible and unacceptable. I normally don't call for this, but if you have no interest in making ANY contributions I would ask the mod to force replace you, or for you to replace out... or play the game.

Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion but since I have not violated any of the moderator rules and

I am playing essentially the same way I play in all of my games,

this comes down to difference of playstyle. If you don't like my playstyle I suggest you either A. vote me B. ignore me C. replace out.

I am a fairly decent scum hunter and have proven my way works.

have a nice day sir.


p.edit - yes bacade, as I said earlier once the game gets going I will participate more

bolded) can you provide some links please
A) I am voting you
B) You can't ignore anyone in a game.
C) No....
Red) what way... you have done nothing.

[jasonT1981]

Hi DDDP. Why have you chosen to ignore the other wagons?

Because Toasty is my scumparnter and I don't want to draw attention to him

obv obv. Don't see anything there that makes me go either "holy fuck scum" or "holy fuck town" either in regards to Toasty or the people voting him; other wagon was far more interesting.

Bolded - While it is nothing solid, I have found scum usually make this type of comment more than town. make a sarcy comment that you are scum when you actually are...

Again, nothing solid but something I find interesting.

[jasonT1981]

argh

unvote

While I do think Jake needs pressure, I am going to see if his scum hunting is as good as he says it is.


Out of game talk - Toasty - you have malware. if you are using Firefox go to tools and addons and see if you have any unwanted software installed in your browser, then delete it there... and uninstall in control panel.. I had it a while back and it annoyed me to no end.

[jasonT1981]

And people have problem with my posts...

If you are town that kind of post is unacceptable, sarcasm or not. This goes to the other bozo who said it too.

Now, I won't go into details right now cause nobody will beleive me but we really need to focus our attention on a group of the following people.

Tboss, chamber, Jason, or bacade.

vote: bacade

It's a little trick I learned recently and it's pretty accurate. Out of the 4 names, bacade/Jason stand out the most.

Why, because they pressured you early on? its nothing more than OMGUS

[jasonT1981]

And people have problem with my posts...

If you are town that kind of post is unacceptable, sarcasm or not. This goes to the other bozo who said it too.

Now, I won't go into details right now cause nobody will beleive me but we really need to focus our attention on a group of the following people.

Tboss, chamber, Jason, or bacade.

vote: bacade

It's a little trick I learned recently and it's pretty accurate. Out of the 4 names, bacade/Jason stand out the most.

Why, because they pressured you early on? its nothing more than OMGUS

[jasonT1981]

Yea, I actually think Jake is town now despite my earlier complaints. Pretty interesting theory. But i think it is only that, a theory.

[jasonT1981]

Yea, fully agree... Nexus has done 0 in this game. 4 posts, all fluff/filler

vote:Nexus

dosed with the cold atm so posts will be when i can be assed getting back on computer from my warm bed.

[jasonT1981]

This is quite boring.

What is boring?

Alright, do you see Jakes early behaviour as scummy, or just his normal play style?
On his wagon, who do you think took advantage of it in a scummy way?
Who do you think would best flip scum today??

[jasonT1981]

@Jason: how exactly can you say someone is just posting filler from 4 posts, when two of them contain legitimate pushes?
Nexus wagon is dumb for that^.

vote jason

@Jake surely town would be trying their best to post useful posts from page 1.

Hi DDDP. Why have you chosen to ignore the other wagons?

Jason you're pushing this far too hard.

This is quite boring.

Show me the legit pushes, please... random vote... random comment on wagon, random off topic post, and 1 small game related question..

I do ask, where are these pushes?

[jasonT1981]

I had to read post 211 three times before I got it. I need to stop reading mafia games before I'm fully awake

Yea, same for me lol I had to look at it 2/3 times

[jasonT1981]

WOW Nexus has given up???

Did he ever really start tbh?

[jasonT1981]

that said, at this point there is no reason to unvote him. He has posted a couple of times on site yesterday so he could have managed to come in here and post something. I thought I had actually voted him myself but I guess i didn't.

why not vote him now?

[jasonT1981]

Don't like how Jake was happy for the lynch to go through, but then stopped short of voting himself and buckled.

However, I think we should wait and see a few days if we get a Bo-replacement quickly or not before we lynch today.

[jasonT1981]

exactly, you seemed to make reference to you thinking your vote was on him, then alluded to putting it on him.

that said, at this point there is no reason to unvote him. He has posted a couple of times on site yesterday so he could have managed to come in here and post something. I thought I had actually voted him myself but I guess i didn't.

Let's see what happens, this wagon will be great later in the game for VCA

[jasonT1981]

exactly, you seemed to make reference to you thinking your vote was on him, then alluded to putting it on him.

that said, at this point there is no reason to unvote him. He has posted a couple of times on site yesterday so he could have managed to come in here and post something. I thought I had actually voted him myself but I guess i didn't.

Let's see what happens, this wagon will be great later in the game for VCA

so you misinterpreted me. ok

not misrepping you, just quoting you.

[jasonT1981]

unvote

[jasonT1981]

which is?

[jasonT1981]

V/LA for weekend, will try and check in etc but until Monday afternoon expect me to not be about except to tend to my own modded games

[jasonT1981]

Just going to change the subject off of you and onto somebody else without even a weak defense for yourself?

....Okay?

Actually, I like it... too often people get stuck defending themselves over and over that they don't get to air their own views as to game on goings.

[jasonT1981]

vote: Jake

[jasonT1981]

to hammer or not to hammer....

this is too easy a lynch though with him V/LA seems awful convenient..

[jasonT1981]

if you read the game, you will see why my read changed on him.

However, it was due to his pushing Nexus, saying he would vote him, thought his vote was on him... but then backed down when challanged to actually put the vote on Nexus. And then the exchange after where he was accusing me of misrepping him, even though I was just quoting exactly what he said.

starts from here - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4688575

[jasonT1981]

to hammer or not to hammer....

this is too easy a lynch though with him V/LA seems awful convenient..

Willing to lynch Jason after this, yeah.

And yet you don't back it up with a vite, yeah.

[jasonT1981]

vote even.

[jasonT1981]

Yeah re-reading it, you are contemplating a hammer but you think it's an easy lynch? Doesn't make sense.

I have been on the fence with you, I do still feel you could flip either way. I do see you as more town, but there is still niggling thoughts in my head you are scum. I am about 70/30 you are town. I do think your wagon has once again come about via convenience and is more about you not being present than actual evidence against you and has come very easily.

As I said, I do think for most part town, but there are some doubts in my mind. Right now though, I am more sure Jake is scum.

[jasonT1981]

if you read the game, you will see why my read changed on him.

However, it was due to his pushing Nexus, saying he would vote him, thought his vote was on him... but then backed down when challanged to actually put the vote on Nexus. And then the exchange after where he was accusing me of misrepping him, even though I was just quoting exactly what he said.

starts from here - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4688575

Wait a minute, nobody challenged me to vote him...

and actually after you quoted what i said, i didn't accuse you of mis-repping me, I accused you of misinterpreting me.

I never alluded to putting my vote on him, I was just making a statement that nobody should be unvoting him

I challanged you to vote him... since you know, you thought your vote was already on him, and saw no reason to remove it.

[jasonT1981]

that said, at this point there is no reason to unvote him. He has posted a couple of times on site yesterday so he could have managed to come in here and post something. I thought I had actually voted him myself but I guess i didn't.

why not vote him now?

[jasonT1981]

And now Jake has brought some things into light that make me wonder again.

such as?

[jasonT1981]

V/LA until tomorrow....

however, I still am sold on Jake being scum, don't think Nexus is, still 70/30 in favor of him being town.

torn on the hammer, not sure if scum would be that bold as to hammer. But meh, the reasons behind it were weird, flavor not matching... when obv mike was a cop in the past.

Also, hammering a cop claim... BAD.

Urgh, gonna think about it and come back tomorrow when my V/LA is over

[jasonT1981]

Im back, catch up coming soon

[jasonT1981]

Hammering is not a scum tell.

Hammering a claimed and uncountered cop though......

[jasonT1981]

Jake, can you show some links?

[jasonT1981]

hmmm the only difference i can see is Qwints was new to the game and hammered as soon as he came in.

[jasonT1981]

yea,

vote: Petapan

[jasonT1981]

Jakes defence of Peta hammering was pretty telling, and I have said from beginning i see him as scum

vote: Jake

[jasonT1981]

Oh ffs what the hell are you doing in this game.

#go fuck yourself, deal with it or replace out..

3 options

choose one

[jasonT1981]

Sorry for that, Mijiffy... word of advice, don't carry the shit into this game as I have been enjoying it so far. What happened in that other game stays there, deal?

[jasonT1981]

my defense of peta's hammer wasn't telling at all.

given you defended someone who hammered a power role as soon as he claimed, and the hammerer later turned out to be scum?

Yea, pretty telling.

[jasonT1981]

I have done no reading and I have no intention to do so unless vitally necessary, and only in ISO form for certain bits of information.

Lay on me your cases on those living and I shall weigh them equally and without bias.

read the game... seriously, your thoughts should be YOUR thoughts... not what others are telling you happened. Everyone has their perceptions of events, however, everyone should have their own thoughts on events.

[jasonT1981]

V/LA until tomorrow....

however, I still am sold on Jake being scum, don't think Nexus is, still 70/30 in favor of him being town.

torn on the hammer, not sure if scum would be that bold as to hammer. But meh, the reasons behind it were weird, flavor not matching... when obv mike was a cop in the past.

Also, hammering a cop claim... BAD.

Urgh, gonna think about it and come back tomorrow when my V/LA is over

VOTE: Jason

This is just a terrible post, full of eggos and his vote today sucks as well.

above post *yawn*

my vote today sucks, but yet Jake has been a scum read of mine since D1 and have voted him day 1 and day too also, did those votes suck too?

Your whole case is the above quoted post? saying hammering claimed cop is bad? lol

[jasonT1981]

Still would rather lynch Jake over Vaomi

[jasonT1981]

Is that how you'd say my name if you were pronouncing it in real life?

Vaomi. Bleh.

Meh, try typing and watching football, and chatting on the phone at the same time.

[jasonT1981]

mostly v/la over weekend, will pop in and out

[jasonT1981]

I swear you're better than this as town.

in my experience he isn't.

Has Jason answered the question he was asked yet? I don't think he ever did

Vote: jason

What question are you rattling on about?

[jasonT1981]

I swear you're better than this as town.

in my experience he isn't.

Has Jason answered the question he was asked yet? I don't think he ever did

Vote: jason

What question are you rattling on about?

The one majiffy asked you like 5 or 6 pages ago RE: a point DDDP brought up

then obv I missed it, can you re-ask it please? and I will endear to answer in a time that suits me, thank you.

[jasonT1981]

Well if its not going to be re-asked, then how can I answer what I have obv missed. And it is 2am here, so if it is reasked then it will be answered at a time that is not now as I am off to bed, toodles

[jasonT1981]

Well, wouldn't it be easier just to ask it again... Plain and simple, I am now asking for the 2nd time for the question (which isn't even yours) to be restated.... deal with it.

[jasonT1981]

Firstly, thank you for providing what it was asked off me.


@ Jake: I really want you to answer this, How can I be ignoring questions when I TWICE asked for them to be restated?

Majiffy, you could just help me lynch him and that would help solve your apparent issues.

You see the post I quoted before? Full of waffles.
You see his latest crusade agaisnt Jake? It's bad. WIFOM, but why on Earth do scum defend someone a scum partner so obviously going to get lynched as Peta beyond WIFOM? At least Peta's quickhammer took out our cop for the scumteam, actively defending someone who is going to get lynched regardless of what you say gains the scumteam nothing of value and just draws unwanted attention.

Alright, its not my latest 'crusade' against jake.. it is just another peice of the puzzle against him... yes, your whole thing is WIFOM...

why would jake defend someone who hammered and took out the cop?
well, why would scum hammer knowing they would be taken out the next day?

its ALL WIFOM there.... in fact, wasnt the hammer drawing un-needed and unwanted attention anyway?

[jasonT1981]

Again I ask, How can I be ignoring questions when I

TWICE

asked for them to be restated?

Surely asking for the question to be re-stated so I can answer, shows an indication I am NOT ignoring.

muppet.

Now I am scum because I missed something?

[jasonT1981]

now who is avoiding questions, Jake? I have asked you TWICE and this is a third time....

how is asking for a question to be restated on multiple occasions avoiding the question... since you have not answered should we assume that by your logic you are scum?

[jasonT1981]

no jake, that is not what I am asking you.. I am directly asking how I can be ingoring something, IF I am asking for it to be re-asked...

[jasonT1981]

Jake, why are you consistently avoiding the question? isn't that what scum do? again, how is asking for the question to be asked again so I can answer, evedience that I am scum avoiding the question?

No Jake, I am playing... your my scum read... I am going after you....

deal with it or replace out yourself.

[jasonT1981]

I can be ingoring something, IF I am asking for it to be re-asked...

I already re-asked it. And you've not answered. Which brings us to;

Jake, why are you consistently avoiding the question? isn't that what scum do?

I did answer it...

[jasonT1981]

Please specifically address the risk-reward disparity that - aside from a "lolWIFOM" argument - doesn't help scum and indeed is actually a detriment to their wincon.

Sorry, I thought I had addressed the follow up, my mistake. Must have hit preview and not submit at the time

well as you say, the WIFOM that you are buying into now.. why would scum defend scum....This is not my all and be all against Jake, I have been saying he is scum since D1.. his defending of flipped scum, who hammered an Uncountered cop is just further against him.

Jake one last time... how is asking for the question to be restated.... avoiding it?

clearly asking for it to be restated shows I am looking to answer it, no?

[jasonT1981]

Jake, are you saying you can remember every single thing said in this game without having to go back or have it re-stated?

town and scum miss things... its a null tell. In fact, its not even a tell. Its you throwing crap. I asked for it to be restated as I had no reference what the question was about and you just said 5 or 6 pages ago.... If I had post number or told what it was in relation to or something, then I could have answered it quicker. But a vague, you didnt answer the question is not helping.

IF you are town, you would want to help if you knew the question, right?

[jasonT1981]

Jason, what happened to the town read you had on me earlier? What changed it back to a scum read?

reads change...

[jasonT1981]

but now who isnn't reading, since I TWICE said why I changed my stance on you again

Don't like how Jake was happy for the lynch to go through, but then stopped short of voting himself and buckled.

However, I think we should wait and see a few days if we get a Bo-replacement quickly or not before we lynch today.

if you read the game, you will see why my read changed on him.

However, it was due to his pushing Nexus, saying he would vote him, thought his vote was on him... but then backed down when challanged to actually put the vote on Nexus. And then the exchange after where he was accusing me of misrepping him, even though I was just quoting exactly what he said.

starts from here - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4688575

I already stated why, yet you obv didn't read... isn't that a tell of scum in your own little world, you know..not reading or not looking back

[jasonT1981]

Jake - I twice stated why my read changed, why didn't you know if you

had

read everything....

[jasonT1981]

your an idiot... I am not asking how its scummy I missed something...

I am clearly asking how it is avoiding something, when I was on more than one occasion asking for it to be asked again...

so now you miss or forget something its ok, but I miss something OMG he is scum

hypocrite. By your own logic, if you had read the game, you would already know..

remember, if I had read the game I would have already known the question...but its ok if you 'forget' and need to be reminded

fucking hypocrite.

[jasonT1981]

Jason, what happened to the town read you had on me earlier? What changed it back to a scum read?

reads change...

fine it changed, but why did you ignore the 2nd question. The 2nd question is the most important one.

your a moron, its already been answered... again, not reading jake, is that scummy?

[jasonT1981]

in fact, it was fucking answered on this fucking page.

[jasonT1981]

Both of you shut the fuck up.

Christ.

he just needs to be lynched but for some reason nobody will lynch him.

because your full of shite.... whats scummy for me is alright for you.

I'm done with this convo, you obv cant get shit through your head. I still think you're scum and will push your lynch. But your OMG he missed a question and is therefore scum is fucking dumb.

[jasonT1981]

urgh, im going to review the case in the morning.. I have admittingly gotten caught up with this BS with Jake to the point it was seemingly my only focus for a while. Going to cool of and come back to this game tomorrow with a cool head as its 2am, and these fucking anti-depressants I am on (for non depressing reasons) somehow get me angry.

[jasonT1981]

in fact I have already posted a handful of shit.

yup, shit it is.. goodnight

[jasonT1981]

the fact neither of you can convince anyone else to join you shows just how good your 'case' is.

[jasonT1981]

Meh the whole Jake-Me thing is a stalemate... probably not helping the game with us both being pig headed and focusing too much on the other. I've probably tunneled a good bit, like Jake has. Still not 100% sure on Vi, still need to fully re-read what the case is. Just home and going to get my dinner and watch the football. Back later

[jasonT1981]

They aren't consistent.

The first implies the hammer is bad but not a scumtell. The 2nd definitely implies its a scumtell cause he's arguing me Who is saying its not.

It's a complete change of opinion.

Its called having time to think...

Is it now a scum tell to change your mind on something. I stand by my comment, hammering is NOT a scum tell, hammering an uncountered power role IS scummy

[jasonT1981]

you also fail to mention I was on the fence on the issue, not downplaying it but trying to look from it at both sides and later made a decission on it.

[jasonT1981]

Sorry, when I said I wasn't going to move my vote for at least five days and would only lynch Jason or NS what I meant was... exactly what I said.

answer my question please

Shouldn't that make him scum :O

[jasonT1981]

No, what I am saying is you should apply the same standards to everyone...

Missing a question/not answering = not reading = scum according to you, so why is DDD not scum when he doesnt answer? Yet I didn't answer (something I asked to be re-asked twice) you rattled on about me being obv scum.

your not very consistant...

Also, Jake, do you think Mijiffy is scum? I really would like you to answer yes or no.

[jasonT1981]

how come, you are yet to say a thing about me? yet would be ok with my lynch........

doesn't add up.

[jasonT1981]

Why though?

[jasonT1981]

Normal weekend V/LA

[jasonT1981]

I've always wanted to get NS lynched cause his useless play, I never am able to and he's always town. If we lynch him it's nothing but a policy lynch.

Jason/viomi are better options IMO

So you wanting NS lynched is due to play-style and NOT being scummy? Can you show me any game where there was a sucessful policy lynch at all?

[jasonT1981]

me fair enough, I should not post with one eye on the Daytona race

[jasonT1981]

While I do have a lot of issues with Jake, both DDD and NS seem to be shouting for my lynch, but not doing anything but make empty noise, What Jake is saying about me is wrong, but he has at least his reasons unlike the other 2.

[jasonT1981]

unvote
vote: NS

The vote hopping all over the place
the calling for people to be lynched non stop
the not doing any work himself

[jasonT1981]

lol well fuck.... thats awesome funny shit.

Actually, upon review... I am going to sheep Majiffy for the rest of the game and proxy my vote to him after Bad music mafia.... Since he is right... again

[jasonT1981]

Surprisingly NS is fast overtaking Jake on the top of my scum read chart.. .I do still think Jake is scum, but was tunnelling too hard I guess and forgetting about everyone else.

[jasonT1981]

Post tomorrow... jason is high on his meds right now. Someone is a good distributor lol

[jasonT1981]

unvote

dddp does make a good point about jason and I do remember him basically ignoring the petapan wagon

vote: jason

Bullshit, I voted Peta... turns out I was late and it was hammered, but bullshit. I didn't ignore it.

yea,

vote: Petapan

[jasonT1981]

I was caught up in tunnelling you, scum... right now I am still torn between you and NS for last scum. But lets nip this in the bud. I am at L-2 pretty quickly, probably won't be around tomorrow.

So. I am the fucking epic and insane Tuco Salamanca.

I am a distributor.

My power is supply and demand. I target one person per night.... they get a 20% chance of the following

Shot Bodyguard
Shot Track
Shot Commute
Overdose Effect
No Effect

The overdose is a roleblock, I targeted obv town Majiffy last night. The other target(s) are still alive in this game.... They should have gotten at least something overnight though some abilities are passive so they won't know about them such as the role-block or no effect.

[jasonT1981]

the shot should not be there... I was taking out the 1X shot ... forgot to remove shot word.

[jasonT1981]

I was pushing viomi for most of the day and that alone clears me from today's lynch pool but it definitely puts you into it.

lol no

[jasonT1981]

I'm on the fence about asking thosewho it was I targetted N1 and N2 if they received anything. Nothing has really been said, so they may not have gotten an active 1x ability those nights.

[jasonT1981]

Yes, you don't

think

-- but your post above seems to state it as fact. Why?

Even with me thinking Jake is a good chance of scum, there is no way even as scum Jake wouild know there is no town PR left. I don't get your argument.

Wow.. im defending Jake.... fuck me! It was openly obviouis Jake was speaking in his opinion.

[jasonT1981]

How was it not, is not an acceptable answer to how was it staged?

can you provide reasoning as to how it was staged, please?

[jasonT1981]

Well, you already have my name claim. I would rather Jake/NS go first, but whatever. Thats just personal preference. Since we would all claim name anyway, its no big deal.

[jasonT1981]

Awww fuck,, man... now I don't wanna lynch you

[jasonT1981]

Alright, I have already claimed anyway. I am Tuco Salamanca.

1) JasonT1981 - Tuco Salamanca.
2) Jake from State Farm - Jessie Pinkman

[jasonT1981]

Alright guys, 4 days to deadline. NS & Jake are my picks for wagons. I would vote either.

[jasonT1981]

That's a 180 from 1099...

its really not....you never stopped being a scum read I was willing to lynch.

My comment was a tongue in cheek comment as Jesse is a great character in the show. Don't even try and pull that shit on me by thinking 1099 meant I was no longer willing to lynch you.

[jasonT1981]

No, another mis-rep.....

I voted you as 'scum' in RVS wagon before you posted..... your actions AFTER that is what caused me to call you scum.

[jasonT1981]

vote NS

Time to put up, or shut up Jason. You're as wishy washy as fuck.

Really? wishy washy yet my vote has been on the same person for the entire game mostly and I have not wavered from my scum read.

NS above vote is yet another example of his no caring voting attitude. I have already said I am willing to vote and lynch either NS or Jake

Whats wishy washy there?

[jasonT1981]

L-1 So I am stating intent to hammer tonight at 7pmEST unless NS can come in and convince me he is not scum... though I heavily doubt it.

[jasonT1981]

I want to give some time so as NS can leave us with final thoughts etc on the event he does flip town. While I do intend to hammer, I won't do it right away.

[jasonT1981]

the way I see it, Jake thinks he is obv confirmed town by name claimof Jessie alone... don't work that way.

Jessie Could be a great fake claim... I have also seen games were main characters of the show were scum.

[jasonT1981]

My name has nothing to do with it

Alright, then expain how you are obv town. because you are the only one who thinks it (or at least is saying it)

[jasonT1981]

yea..... no.

[jasonT1981]

its simple, you are not obv town. And the only one saying you are obv town is you.

you cant be scum because of peta/viomi?... Bullshit.

[jasonT1981]

why would I?

Why would scum?

all WIFOM and WIFOM is not a valid arguement.

Its obvious you think I am scum, I think you are scum. We are at a stalemate. Rather than draw it out with another page full of back and forth. I will, as I say hammer my other scum read. No doubt we will be back at this tomorrow.

vote:NS

[jasonT1981]

I think Jason is our 3rd party,

I don't beleive his claim at all and nobody has come forward to claim they received anything so that means he basically gave people nothing each night?

He did claim he visited majiffy last night and majiffy died so :shrug:

A lot of the things I had a chance of giving were passive, not active abilities. I already said this. So there is a chance they did not know they got anything. Unless it was one of the active abilities.

[jasonT1981]

I thought you wanted NS to talk?

iI did, but its clear he wasn't going to. I already stated intention to hammer. deal with it.

[jasonT1981]

As was your attitude and your thoughts at times too. We spent too much time going back and forth on each other.

[jasonT1981]

I did enjoy playing with you all, Jake, you do come across as a pompous arrogant prat at times and someone who thinks he is 100% right all the time. If you want to avoid me, no biggie.