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VOTE: Zoidberg
Because, why not?

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HD - your first post struck me as forced, the second panicky at having three votes already and feeling like you have to say something about it. Nothing since has dispelled either of those feelings.

First post wasn't forced, I like getting first post and not having it makes me sad

Can you show a completed game where you've expressed this?

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I agree HD seems town, the only thing that gave me pause was the firstpost thing, but that seems to be in line with how he behaves.
VOTE: BBMolla
He just feels too quiet here compared to every other game I've played with him (and he's been town in those).

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VOTE: Zoidberg (L-1)

LLD, why exactly are you voting for TML again?

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Axxle, why did you put Zoidberg at Lynch-1 despite MattP asking you not to?

MattP is fully capable of unvoting (which he did)

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axxle: why did you vote zoidberg? what do you think of his claim?

Mostly his reasons for voting HD seem scummy (especially regarding the MattP vote)

also this felt like forced anger:

It's literally a role that roleblocks anyone that targets it

did you miss the part about non-kill actions or are you just a fucking retard

since a few minutes later he had much calmer post of:

Confirmation bias

I think his claim is silly. I can't even begin to figure out it's interactions with a lot of other normal roles if it was true.

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Mostly his reasons for voting HD seem scummy

You know, it's always better to go with something small rather than go with nothing.

What did you expect so early in the game? A huge textwall with tons of revelant quotes and meta?

The specific part I mean is this:

VOTE: MattP

Alright

I'm out of RVS

Throwing a vote on mattp (one of the most town players) for no reason other than because matt admonished him for prolonging rvs/being useless. Somehow HD wants us to believe that matt is the scummy one in this exchange are you fucking kidding me?

He put the vote down on Post 19. MattP couldn't be "one of the most town players" that early. (I know people have brought this up previously and you've already responded but... yeah) It feels like you're trying to rip posts out of context.

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I think it's useful to do some checks on people before moving to a hammer

And you're doing such a sterling job of it too.

Matt, I'm also curious on what you're checking up on.

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You're dead Zoid.

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VOTE: BBMolla

He's not as transparent this game as he's been in past games I've played with him in. Despite saying he wanted the zoid lynch stopped, he never really said why, just bad feelings, which is about how much effort to save a goon I expect him to take. Sheeping my early read and our IC who happens to be cdb is just bonus.

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(L-2)

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I'm not seeing HD being scum, but I'll reread tomorrow.

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VOTE: Zhero
Yeah, I see it. Trying to get people off the zoid wagon and onto wisdom, the only one who considered the role being confirmable, and his jump off of oversoul seems pretty bad.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: HD

That was pretty town

What makes you think so?

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Fair enough, sorry for the crappy play guys. Haven't been able to get into this game at all.

Vanilla townie here.

Why didn't you claim a country?

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part not wanting to jump around a bunch indecisively

You know my first instinct is that this is a bad thought but then I realize I do the same as town and I'd never bother saying something like this as scum because it's just rife to getting twisted. Read still solid here.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: LLD

If the zhero wagon is going to collapse then my vote is going back to my first choice.

What about LLD's play is scummy? Your only explanation is this:

Also, I'm going back to some structural tells I used to use and in conjunction with her D1 play this vote is on most likely scum.

VOTE: LLD

And that's not going to get anyone lynched. It feels like you're just parking your vote.




(I'm also going to be VLA through monday)

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It feels like you're just parking your vote.

That's not quite right. I mean you aren't pushing your scumreads so it seems like you're trying to play it safe.

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He wasn't my strongest scumread, that was Molla. I'm not so sure about Molla anymore and many of my reads are really mixed in general at the moment. I'll get back to you with a better answer when I'm back in the US.

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If we don't have a super majority will we have a lynch or a no lynch?

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Oversoul: why did you vote for Zhero yesterday? Most of the time you mention how he's town to you.

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@Wisdom: How did you expect MattP do respond here if he was scum?

Its actual purpose was to determine if Matt honestly thinks that there's a jester or he's pushing bs forward.
But I now don't know what to think of your meddling - town that jumps to conclusions or scum that jumps at the first chance to make an accusation?
Hmm.

VOTE: Oversoul

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VOTE: Wisdom

I prefer wisdom to both LLD and Oversoul, their exchange feels more town v town than anything here.

LLD, what do you think about Zhero? Still think he's scum?

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I prefer wisdom

Why?

I didn't like his answer to my question, feel like lld and oversoul, am tired/lazy and don't really want to push zero.

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I'm L-1.

Wow.

Thinking about self-hammering for a final screw you but then I have my reputation to consider ... meh

Oh please AtE more. You're so scummy.

Thoughts on zero please.

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Sorry, went vla without really announcing it. I'll get to this in a few hours.

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Yeah, sorry. I was hoping to put aside a couple hours and put together some solid reads of everyone's interactions with everyone but that didn't happen and won't happen today. If it doesn't happen tomorrow I'll just rid you guys of my crappiness and replace out.

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Oh, VT Australia.

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You did a great job at modding, Nexus. I think CDB's role made things a bit slower since we didn't get a NK to really speculate about till Night 3, and that's when I was gone, but other than that it was entirely on the players to get motivated this game.