Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Mafia Game Over

[Saint]

vote: arcangel9

my vote is pseudo serious
how can you respond to someone's hello, but vote them? scummy

[Saint]

RVS is idiotic
the next person to vote me is getting my vote

[Saint]

unvote

like the arcangel "wall"
it IS a wall for RVS

[Saint]

DOBBY'S SOCK.
master gave dobby a sock
dobby is fweeeee

but for real, no, i was being serious, mhork, or whoever said that
if you want to push me, why are you voting PA? go ahead and vote me. At least, then, you can get some bloody analysis out of my RVS wagon

vote: Safety_Dance

blatant OMGUS, but I am a man of my word
I don't even really want to vote you - I like your name... I like the song... whatever.

I don't like the RVS. I would rather have RQS. RVS is idiotic. It creates silly wagons on town (AND LOW AND BEHOLD THE ONE BITCHING ABOUT THIS HAS A WAGON ON THEM HMMM)

vote: Safety_Dance

[Saint]

hahaha i just stumbled on this. If I go out, it will be posting this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reop2bXiNgk

[Saint]

"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"
how was i participating?
this was bugging me, so I have to address it....
I was saying my vote was relatively serious, to try to create discussion, to end the RVS
I showed a pro-town action, because I HATE GETTING VOTED IN THE RVS WITH NO REASONING
i actually hate getting voted ANY TIME IN THE GAME with no reasoning
I like reasoning behind votes, to see who is feigning, and who is trying to decipher who is scum based upon it, GHOSTLIN.

[Saint]

"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"
how was i participating?

"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"how was i participating?

If it was only pseudo-serious, then there was a slight not serious element there. I won't say 'random', but you even downplayed the vote by saying it was only pseudo-serious, which is not something you usually do outside of RVS.

i said it was pseudo serious because it's hard to have concrete evidence off of 1 post

Anyone got meta on Saint? 'cause I threw this exact hissy fit back to back as scum.

you're not me
do you want self meta?
i dont get lynched as scum frequently
my town game is weaker
hence here

hahaha i just stumbled on this. If I go out, it will be posting this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reop2bXiNgk

what in the actual fuck did I just watch..

anywho, yeah, Mhork, what do you mean?

i found it on youtube when i watched the puppet pals
i thought it was funny

Saint, why is SD a better vote than ArcAngel?

honestly would have to read what AA has contributed - not pinging off of my radar. I will answer this in my next post. SD is a good vote FOR ME because I don't want to lie
I don't like Ghostlin's weak reasoning to vote me. Him setting it up earlier seems like he is likely to be scum

unvote

VOTE: Ghostlin

[Saint]

I hate RVS.

I also hate both Saint's and PA's reactions equally.

How can you hate RVS and simultaneously not agree with people who share the same idea?

id like to answer this
BECAUSE HE IS OPPORTUNISTIC SCUM

[Saint]

SD looks like town

[Saint]

DOBBY'S SOCK.
master gave dobby a sock
dobby is fweeeee

but for real, no, i was being serious, mhork, or whoever said that
if you want to push me, why are you voting PA? go ahead and vote me. At least, then, you can get some bloody analysis out of my RVS wagon

vote: Safety_Dance

blatant OMGUS, but I am a man of my word
I don't even really want to vote you - I like your name... I like the song... whatever.

I don't like the RVS. I would rather have RQS. RVS is idiotic. It creates silly wagons on town (AND LOW AND BEHOLD THE ONE BITCHING ABOUT THIS HAS A WAGON ON THEM HMMM)

vote: Safety_Dance

Awesome, lets have RQS! Yayyyy!

What is your favorite color?
What's your favorite season?
Are you cat or dog person? If other , please specify.
What do you like to do to relax?
So, do you watch any sports?
Which broomstick brand was more revolutionary for its time - Cleansweep or Nimbus?
Just how good are socks? Especially nice, thick, warm woolly pairs?
If you had a nice pair of socks would you waste it on a house elf?
Voldemort vs Sauron, who wins?

This is so much more effective!

So if you don't want to vote him but want to keep your word, why not vote and unvote? If you want RQS, try to start RQS. I've never played in a game with it, so I can't say from experience how it compares to RVS.

It's a complete waste of time. I hate RQS. It just leads to random wagons on town.

blue... no green
i like them both... i would probably have to say dog, though, as long as they are not capable of killing me (pitbulls, german shepherds, etc)
im not a very relaxed person... school, league of legends, trying to get my ex GF back... normal things are my hobbies
i watch SOME sports. I know more about them than i watch... enjoy playing, but rarely watch/play
I'm gonna say Nimbus? Not really into Quidditch history lol
I hate socks.
"waste it" on a house elf? lol no
Sauron with, or without the ring? What age?
I do find it more effective. It's at least more fun. I like being asked questions.

[Saint]

So Saint, if you hate RVS, why vote for someone just because of an offhand threat to vote for whoever votes you? Isnt that in itself RVS?

not necessarily. I'm working to deter my wagon. THAT in and of itself is null

[Saint]

Anyone got meta on Saint? 'cause I threw this exact hissy fit back to back as scum.

mhork is leaning scum ... no reasoning, and broseidon is right that the self meta shit is a joke

[Saint]

actually ghostlin is probably just dumb town that feeds into empirical bullshit
i would be much more comfortable voting penguin... due to being able to get the rest of the town to help me out on this... obvious reaching vote
"pinged their scumdar"... sure....
plus that #46 i think it was was fucking difficult for me to read
I explained everything relating to why my RVS vote wasnt that RVS
How the fuck does someone say Hello to you, but then you vote them when you say hello back? That is just rude.
AA is probably town, though. Was probably trying to get a reaction. Seems to be reserved... I really don't want to mislynch, though, so I'm not really wanting to consolidate onto anyone as much as has been done to me.
I'm at level 3, so I'm very likely to be lynched... I know there is town voting me... I doubt all 3 scum (you think there are 3 scum, guys?) are voting me... Perhaps I should claim.... What do you all think? I don't know the best course of action at this juncture.

[Saint]

oh, yeah, i should provide my alt
my alt is furcolow

[Saint]

OK REST OF THE GAME IN FATE MODE LOL
GET OVER IT OR LYNCH ME
I KNOW SOMEONE IS GOING TO SAY POLICY LYNCH
BUT YOU ALL DONT KNOW HOW GOOD OF A SCUMHUNTER I AM IF NOT PRESSURED. I PLAY A LOT OFFSITE ON TEAMLIQUID. I AM RESPECTED THERE. THANKS. THAT IS ALL.

[Saint]

Prod received...theren't much to catch up
going out for clubbing..will post when i am back

nice... i'm totes jelly

[Saint]

fuzzybutternut is town... had this at the end, but i like to vote at the end of my post, so i'm moving this to the top... I seriously am upset right now, but it's not the end of the world if you all don't lynch me... I will be your hero, baby.
WOW I JUST HIT A BUTTON AND LOST LIKE A 20 LINE POST ... I WAS ALREADY to 2) on mhorks... at the bottom... i DO have scumreads... are you not reading? you're reaching, you have no reasoning, and if you're town you've got your head so twisted with inane theories that I want you gone on a policy lynch anyways

unvote;
vote: MHORK

[Saint]

Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.

I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.

Unvote

Vote: Lord Mhork

(I'm sorry )

First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.

The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.

I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.

OH ANOTHER MHORK VOTE
NICE
THAT FITS INTO MY TOWNREAD ON AA

AA + BUTTERNUT, VOTING BLOC? PLZ? Seriously, I think you're both town with me, and we can get something done. Tentatively adding Deasvail to that list, because I like how offtopic she was reacting to Dr.P in glancing because where Dr.P bolded it I saw it already... it COULD be read as parroting, but I actually get townie vibes from that clubbing comment... just so out of place for a harry potter game, that I don't see it as scum

[Saint]

4) mixed with his comment about "this thing" which is rude as fuck and warrants/demands even more of a policy consideration... yeah... I'm happy with my vote, and it is not OMGUS whatsoever like my vote on safety dance/SD.

Ok, here's why you should vote Mhork

1) no reasoning
2) hypocrisy
3) bandwagonning without admitting to it; trying to justify a weak rvs vote; not acting like a fellow gentleman

[Saint]

actually ghostlin is probably just dumb town that feeds into empirical bullshit

If you seriously believe this, why is your vote on me?

"Your vote is invalid, so I'm going to OMGUS (yes, I know it's not scummy) you in my first post, and then call you dumb Town in next that feeds into empirical bullshit."

Are we talking out of both sides of your mouth, or are you deliberately cognitively dissonant?

I talk to myself when I am working things out. I have a high IQ. I am openselved as town.

[Saint]

10 Points to mister Neville Longbottom!

this is a very weird post. are you referring to Ghostlin?

[Saint]

I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me.

Ghostlin! You scum again?

hmmm

[Saint]

Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.

I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.

Unvote

Vote: Lord Mhork

(I'm sorry )

First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.

The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.

I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.

that

DAT bolding
i'm impressed

[Saint]

town: DeasVail
ArcAngel
FuzzyButternut

[Saint]

I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me.

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Nope.

To address DV, there's only two people that have remotely done anything at this stage of the game to ping any kind of scumdar.

Fuzzy's distracting, but as long as he contributes to scum hunting, I don't really care; DV seems Town to me, and bluntly it's not like there's tons of people to suspect. I've got PA's jump on the Saint wagon, and the amount of flail Saint's doing under pressure. Even I wouldn't want to see Saint lynched at all now without interaction between players, nor would I see PA lynched.

Ghostlin is amazing in this post too. Put him above FuzzyButternut on my townlist. I like the fact that he realizes that I spurn thread comments/activity, which is pro-town... if I'm reading/hearing you(r) writing/right here.

@FB: Ah, during the astronomy tower thingy? Not when Draco/Dumbledore do their thing, but early early? He gets locked up with that one spell ... petrificus totalis lol heh

[Saint]

Penguin - I love poker
i'm frustrated
I haven't played on site in awhile
I fucking love harry potter
I want to remain in this game to lynch that weird double headed voldemort scuzball middle eastern defense against the dark arts professor whose name is eluding me

[Saint]

FB, since you're around, let's chat. Who do you think is scum, and why?

[Saint]

AA9 quit voting the other girl
that's town to me, but seriously? come on.

[Saint]

was hoping there was another mhork vote... will be interesting to see if scum come in 3rd, 4th, 5th... even as a hammer! due to the jeep's bandwagonning theory

[Saint]

bah FB was hoping you posted on page 4 at the bottom... im going to play league... will check back in a bit

OH NICE TIMING BRO

obviously.... i know my HP, dude....
I don't think DV is scum. DV is my strongest townread for that bolded. I feel the exact same way DV does. You can see the timing of my posts vs. me reading the game... I had the same reasoning, but I didn't want to throw out weak sentiment on the vote... I was holding that in... I'm more of a descartes man, myself, than Ghostlin's English style. ahem. Sorry to go off on a tangent... I tend to do that when writing.. let me get back to this post.

Ah Quirrel... been so long since I read that... years... and I should probably kick the DVD in as a refresher.. I have 2 copies floating around
How are you getting townvibes from Mhork? He, to me, feels like he is reaching, lying about his reasoning, and being offensive to the point I would policy him if King!(maker hehe)
Our reads are completely backwards.... weird... maybe you should cast protego on my mind hahahahaha

[Saint]

bah FB was hoping you posted on page 4 at the bottom... im going to play league... will check back in a bit

OH NICE TIMING BRO

obviously.... i know my HP, dude....
I don't think DV is scum. DV is my strongest townread for that bolded. I feel the exact same way DV does. You can see the timing of my posts vs. me reading the game... I had the same reasoning, but I didn't want to throw out weak sentiment on the vote... I was holding that in... I'm more of a descartes man, myself, than Ghostlin's English style. ahem. Sorry to go off on a tangent... I tend to do that when writing.. let me get back to this post.

Ah Quirrel... been so long since I read that... years... and I should probably kick the DVD in as a refresher.. I have 2 copies floating around
How are you getting townvibes from Mhork? He, to me, feels like he is reaching, lying about his reasoning, and being offensive to the point I would policy him if King!(maker hehe)
Our reads are completely backwards.... weird... maybe you should cast protego on my mind hahahahaha

It's an..eh..associative tell I suppose. He's not playing like he was in Nuzlocke. If he's scum, we'll find out eventually.

DV- I'll believe you for now. You haven't said anything to make me change my mind.

mhork is bandwagonning with no reasoning other than his own meta hyperimposed onto me

[Saint]

#185, how can you hate dumbledore? :/

[Saint]

TMT is flip flopping on me worse than John Kerry flip flopped a few elections ago

[Saint]

im completely ignoring mhork at this point
his misrepresentations and hypocrisy with little to no reasoning of any note... no good words thrown out... kid is a complete non-issue to me this game... i'm leaning village idiot on him

unvote;
vote: tmt

for flip flopping

[Saint]

i realized i did that and if you notice i have them both listed as town

[Saint]

So, safetyDance, considering your shitty vote is pretty RVS worthy, you've attacked mhork for self meta-ing onto me (which was complete and utter trashtier play) why is your vote still on me? other than the fact you've been doing shit-all this game

[Saint]

mhork is really beating a dead horse here
i wonder if he will actually get around to hunting scum, or if he's content sitting on his thumb

[Saint]

mhork my read on aa came from page 12
when i realized what i did i put deasvail at the top of my town list, if youll notice... let me find the post...
i quote the same post twice... i guess the fact i thought AA made a post I later realized Deasvail made removes AA from my list of who I think is town
it was an honest mistake i dont think scum would make, especially if one of them flips scum
i dont normally humor useless tunnelers, but you're starting to annoy me to the point that i dont even care who my character is

[Saint]

you know what, i'm going with a policy vote policy of being a hypocritical village idiot. plus deasvail my strongest townread is voting him. plus im not going to be 3rd/4th voter and commit a jeep tell if he does flip town, which, if he isn't a townie idiot he's scum. it's pretty much 50% townie 50% scum from mhork at this point in my eyes, and i really dont care to lose him if he's either, if he's going to continously tunnel on me and hinder us later on, OR EVEN WORSE GET A WAGON ON ME

unvote;
vote: lord_mhork

[Saint]

unvote;
vote: deasvail

[Saint]

VOTE: vote: deasvail

[Saint]

explanation of #43 falling way short
i thought the reasoning would be this: rxn test
reasoning given is reaching. from top of town to bottom of scum, all off of jake's questioning
this is why mafia is a beautiful game
mhork still sucks

[Saint]

Bonus issue with Saint's "solid" town read on ArcAngel, she has made 5 posts, none of which give a particularly townie vibe.

you dont read posts?
i have addressed this

[Saint]

mhork says im ignoring him in #177 for something i answered in #164 - he isn't reading, or he is lying
this is either policy, or scum, and this is SOLID proof

unvote
vote: mhork

[Saint]

i realized i did that and if you notice i have them both listed as town

You're just making things up though. You still haven't justified your ArcAngel read apart from 'he's town.'

mhork is really beating a dead horse here
i wonder if he will actually get around to hunting scum, or if he's content sitting on his thumb

I'm hunting scum right now, jackass.

you know what, i'm going with a policy vote policy of being a hypocritical village idiot. plus deasvail my strongest townread is voting him. plus im not going to be 3rd/4th voter and commit a jeep tell if he does flip town, which, if he isn't a townie idiot he's scum. it's pretty much 50% townie 50% scum from mhork at this point in my eyes, and i really dont care to lose him if he's either, if he's going to continously tunnel on me and hinder us later on, OR EVEN WORSE GET A WAGON ON ME

unvote;
vote: lord_mhork

Fuck off you fucking fuckface. You haven't provided one shred of evidence against me. What is my hypocrisy? What am I doing that's bad? What is scummy about me? Is it because I'm attacking you? Is because I'm perceiving things you're doing as scummy? Those aren't scumtells. And I'm going to keep tunneling you until you prove me wrong and start acting townie. Fuck off or get it together.

VOTE: vote: deasvail

Can we please lynch this? Someone give me one good case for why he's town apart from "I feel towniness" or "Scum wouldn't be this blatant."

...Saint wtf are you doing?

He's being a fuckhead. You should help me lynch him.

in fact, here is mhork COMPLETELY IGNORING MY 164
he quotes 163
he quotes 165
but not 164, conveniently for him!!!!!!!!!

[Saint]

Then why were you asking me not to vote you? Why do you think I'm scum, anyway?

Well not so much a lie, but there is something inherently dishonest about making up a read using someone else's post. There's also the slight lie about my case against him. That is, that it doesn't exist.

you DON'T have a case
your case is reaching, self meta, hypocritical bullshit

[Saint]

This is Saint quoting DeasVail and saying it proves that ArcAngel is town. I've brought it up a couple times, but rather than answer me Saint just sits and says I'm being hypocritical and making things up. He's ignoring me, slinging mud, and generally being a dick about it. He's also grossly misrepresenting my case against him and playing emotions to win over the town.

ok, can you help me out here cause I went to that quote and kept reading and didn't see you say anything other than something about OMGUS.

I just need to focus.

1. tell me what lie Saint supposedly said, if you want to link it to me that's even better

The lie is essentially that I'm being a hypocrite without a case and that my case is only self meta I'm forcing on him. He is ignoring anything I post and using AtE to try to get the town on his side.

2. what is the issue with Saint quoting Desa proving AA9 is town?

Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.

I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.

Unvote

Vote: Lord Mhork

(I'm sorry )

First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.

The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.

I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.

OH ANOTHER MHORK VOTE
NICE
THAT FITS INTO MY TOWNREAD ON AA

AA + BUTTERNUT, VOTING BLOC? PLZ? Seriously, I think you're both town with me, and we can get something done. Tentatively adding Deasvail to that list, because I like how offtopic she was reacting to Dr.P in glancing because where Dr.P bolded it I saw it already... it COULD be read as parroting, but I actually get townie vibes from that clubbing comment... just so out of place for a harry potter game, that I don't see it as scum

It's not that what DeasVail said makes ArcAngel look townie. It's that Saint takes this post, makes it sound as though ArcAngel posted it, and declares it as further proof of his town read on her. Not only that, but he's unapologetic of this mistake, so I get the vibe he isn't really reading the players but looking for who would be best designated as town or scum for the sake of lynching (which he has already admitted into taking into account).

The short and sweet is that this post has nothing to with ArcAngel, so it makes no sense.

3, tell me what post number to start reading from RE: ignoring you/slinging mud

65 is when he first says I have no reasoning. 87 is where he says again that I have no reasoning and that I'd be good policy lynch bait. 89 he again points out my lack of reasoning and steps it up by calling me a hypocrite. 111 he says that my only reason for voting him is hyperimposed meta (which, as I've pointed out, is a lie). 143 he says I'm misrepresenting and being hypocritical and now I'm a village idiot.

My favorite part of rereading his ISO is rediscovering the fact that he never gave real reasoning for ArcAngel being town other than one post where she is 'probably' town. Then magically becomes a solid, strong town read. Interesting how that works.

if you help me with this i promise I will read it before I go to bed tonight (as long as you get it up in the next hour)

2 late nights and I am exhausted and am planning to be in bed by 10:00 east coast if I can help it

Thanks

Night then, Jake.

how am i appealing to emotions whatsoever

[Saint]

Hey, ArcAngel9, why zero comments on anything past RVS? An opinion on Saint vs. Lord Mhork? Or anything else?

Jake from State Farm, your push on DeasVail doesn't track from an outside perspective. Is there some play history you have with him that makes you think what you're pointing out goes with him being scum? And I'm not sure why you don't see the problem with Saint going 'This quote here from ArcAngel9 [insert quote from DeasVail] is something town would say, so ArcAngel9 must be town.' If it's a mistake, fine, but why not acknowledge it promptly? It's easy to pull the wrong quote when assembling a post, but trying to hold onto a read with a demonstrable lack of basis isn't symptomatic of town trying to establish genuine reads.

Saint, first you find DeasVail's quote (the one attributed to AA9) very towny, you continually list him as a town read, and then off the fact that he asked you to back up the perfunctory moving of your vote from ArcAngel9 to SafetyDance, he becomes your top scum read? Can you break that down further? Because while I get keeping your word re: voting the next person who votes you, useless though such a move may be, your settling there for a time wasn't very pro-town and was worth questioning at the least.

penguin your feeble attempts at appearing intelligent are seriously only coming across as a confusing mess
try to tone it down, please

don't analyze my play. it will be way over your head. thanks.

[Saint]

DoctorPepper is a nothing read, Ghostlin is a content-filled nothing read, Saint is a 'I don't even know what's going on, but maybe town' read, and TMT is still scummy but I want to see more.

finally, a female that admits she doesn't understand me
take notes, penguin alien

[Saint]

could we slow down the wagon here and give me a chance to catch my breath LOL .

I feel pretty good that Mhork is likely to be town. Not too many redheads serve he who must not be named ... and I am definitely not seeing the case on him here. I will find some games I have been in with him one is scum one is town and I was sure he was scum in that one too lol. Good thing Thor replaced in when he did.

Will do some ISOing and see who I think is on the dark side of things.

yeah I LOVE HP which is why I replaced into this game.

Loved the Dobby reference lol.

if mhork is town, he is a bad player, and still worth a lynch because he lies, twists, and tunnels
i don't believe he is town, anyways.
IF he is town, he is a townie. A PR wouldn't be playing the way he is, and he is endangering the town with his actions - so still worthy of being lynched - and I don't plan on unvoting him. He is taking this way-too-far!

[Saint]

Jake - my townread on Deas has shifted towards leaning scum for the explanation she gave which I voted her for
I am now voting mhork because he purposefully ignored a post, and kept pushing me in the thread, having quoted BOTH POSTS AROUND MY POST
he is obviously caught manipulating... which, if he is town, he needs lynched to have a lesson taught... but i don't think he's town here at all... definitely working for voldie

[Saint]

I have a guaranteed girl-catcher

I don't like AA saying "i'm going to post reads" and then not being here for 8 hours. If I don't see something in the next 12 I'm going to vote there, even if mhork is a great vote regardless of alignment for "acting" dumb


Broseidon, why are you worried about irrelevant shit? Who cares about half of your post, here? Why does it matter who called who what... you're complaining about people clogging up the thread... but your posting has been largely redundant

[Saint]

i like fuzzybutternuts jump onto ghostlin, in that it is a jump onto ghostlin, but i don't really get his reasoning

[Saint]

Sorry for not posting, I only got out of the hospital a few days ago.

I'll make a catchup post in a few hours.

i went to the hospital a few days ago

that is not an excuse

@Jake: I don't see a contradiction there, and Broseidon has been pressuring me... perhaps you should read him in filter.

[Saint]

am playing a quick game of quidditch
will post thoughts momentarily

[Saint]

penguin, i have given up on convincing you and mhork of anything
if you all want to continue being worthless, that's fine
Safety_Dance, however, voted me in RVS and still has his RVS vote up, which makes no sense to me

[Saint]

safety dance hasnt posted in 4 days
needs prodded

[Saint]

I have to admit, the whole 'DV should be modkilled for a joke' seems like an odd push and almost overboard.

I'm not pushing for him to be modkilled

@penguin - I've never played with deas, idk why you thing my push on him is based on something other than his content in THIS game.

Really? The why even make as big of a deal as you WERE making out of it.

Saint #218, lemme ask you this: you like a jump onto me but you don't understand the reasons? You'll have to explain that one to me. Also, if you're that concerned re: me to like the jump, then why?

#222 reads like Town, but there's no reason to be an ass to the guy on V/LA.

well, i have been liking your posting more the last 2 days, as when you're away, other people tend to jump out as being scummier, and you are a breath of fresh air that i miss...
so i retract liking the jump onto you
at the time that i made the post, i was still a bit sore at you from the RVS

why does my #222 read like town to you, Ghostlin?

Saint's probably Town with his playstyle. Scum doesn't necessarily LIKE attracting the amount of attention Saint has, but it seems he's trying to play for more unpleasant player in the game.

Also, I find the whole 'hasn't posted since Monday' ironic considering there are people posting WAY less content than me in this game.

I can be pleasant if someone deserves it

Another thing, I feel like his defence of Saint could easily be applied to me in some of the things he says are scummy about me (e.g. reaction to SD's posts and townread on Saint), so I'm beginning to think that he's only attacking me because he decided to have me as a scumread and defending Saint because he decided to.

nice explanation of what GUTS are^
he has admitted that is his reasoning
why are you extrapolating this point? I don't see what a dissection of the thought process does to benefit the town... could you explain your reason for posting this?

Oh Amrun!!!!!

Please save me from this madness.

Why do people (not just you) kiss the ass of replacements. Let them read/post without any attempt at influencing them.

I tend to vote replacements, unless they are very active (like you)
Amrun, however, I have meta on, so that will be null as per being a replacement... I will have a yes or no read on her

FoS: TMT

for 125

Maybe I'll vote/elaborate/change my mind when I look at things more properly tonight.

PEdit: Ew you can be scum too.

I felt like I was fencesitting on the issue between Mhork and Saint.

Alright, I think you've sufficiently summarized and explained to me why Saint is scum, so I'll retract my townread on Saint.

*Hands you a piece of fence to sit on.* No one reverses their opinion this quickly. Do you have any conviction (in another game, I'd say 'balls') at all?

If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.

VOTE: Ghostlin

Sorry for not posting, I only got out of the hospital a few days ago.

I'll make a catchup post in a few hours.

i went to the hospital a few days ago

that is not an excuse

Hospitalized for surgery. I don't have a smart phone, and I share my laptop.

Saint: your 211, where does Mhork say you're appealing to emotions?

I don't like AA saying "i'm going to post reads" and then not being here for 8 hours. If I don't see something in the next 12 I'm going to vote there, even if mhork is a great vote regardless of alignment for "acting" dumb

You're saying that's a greater scumtell than your whole thing on Mhork?

not necessarily a scumtell whatsoever, but i don't want to encourage broken promises. people need to be scumhunting, and if they're not, we need to lynch them

He said AtE or aTe... which means appealing to emotions... iso him and you'll find it. iso him, hit search: type in those letters... ???.... profit

If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.

Flip flop is not a null tell. Flip flop means you've got inconsistent positions. Town have procession of reads and stances.

Scum are generally the ones that go 'gee, I don't know, this might be scummy.'

or they push on meta from other games... ahem... like a few people here are doing. not saying town don't do that, but if mhork can use self meta on others, i'll do that with that.

YAY Amrun ♥

Saint is unfortunately probably town based on his tantrums, but uggh would be good vig bait. Or a good PL if we are close to deadline but in general other than avoiding a NL situation, I am not really fond of PLs, I prefer to focus on finding scumz.

Since I am very familiar with the books, I figure there is probably a mafia PR (Voldemort) and probably 2 goons based on the number of players. The goons most likely would have Death Eater names. I could be wrong though, I know some mods mix it up a bit to make it less obvious.

but the part about one mafia PR of some sort plus 2 goons is a good guess I think based on having 14 players.

this is a shit post
saint is town but should be vigged... yeah, ok
i haven't ever understood that line of thought. let's sacrifice a rook for no reason... yeah, great strategy... for scum
this is blatant scumandeering, too. let's chastise the easy target to gain, not really town cred, but "umbridge" the town.
rachmarie is more like scumbridge. she is posting decrees to walls... well, little missy, wrong fucking book
Voldemort wont be a character whatsoever. Quirrell = Voldemort here, in all likelihood, but stop detracting without solid knowledge. If you want to reread the book, or watch the movie, that's fine... but offering generic shit that I myself have already brought up (you must not be reading, and are therefore a solid PL lynch yourself) is a joke
I am not ever going to unvote this for the rest of the game, unless I have to place it back on another day, or you die (Lord willing)

unvote;
vote: rachmarie

[Saint]

I've decided.

Unvote: Lord Mhork

Vote: Jake from State Farm

Ghostlin's not a terrible vote though.

PEdit: I disagree that flip-flopping is a scumtell, but the way that TMT did it was slightly scummy to me.

this is blatant omgus... why did you wait to do this?

[Saint]

yeah. on page 12 I am 100% certain rachmarie replaced into a scumslot
will have to look into the slot, but here is the general case on her. If you need an explanation, get over it, i'm not going to give away my secrets

1) overly nice - girl trait as scum
2) parroting - #290 copying jake's push on FB (who is 100% town from this exchange if rach is scum) - a la "stirring the pot"
3) IIoA. Twice, now, she has talked about things that aren't relevant, or are misleading subject matter, to try to appear as town. Explaining the setup was a blatant twisting of what is going on, for someone who supposedly knows... I don't buy it... then she goes on to talk about aggro in relation to MMORPGs? Just an excuse to appear knowledgable, and post comments, but it is really giving information without any analysis... or setup talk... whatever the fuck it is called, I see scum do it all the time, and I have played in thousands of mafia games (Teamliquid, alts on here, epicmafia, etc)

furthermore, she has patronized me, and said the same things about me I said about mhork... scum trying to get town modkilled, in all likelihood. very backhanded.
Scum to me are becoming more and more clear

[Saint]

VOTE: DoctorPepper

I don't like Dr Pepper as a drink.

this was the worst RVS vote

VOTE: BROseidon

your vote was rvs; what made you happy to keep it? looks pretty cheap to be honest.

another vote at the first of the post, with reasoning after, like he wanted to vote as opposed to really having reasoning to vote

In retrospect, Bro was confusing due to the fact there is a BROseidon here to. I'm gonna use BRO to refer to player. I shall use Bro, Broseph, or some variation colloquially.

yeah that's cool because you explained it. but he didn't tell us why it was real for now.

The reason this makes it look cheap is cos it just looks like a wagon vote.

This exchange between Mhork and Mac (RACH MARIE'S SLOT) is fishy
Mac has voted Broseidon
Mhork is discussing him, and Mac hops onto it... yeah, buddy, that's fine, kind of talk.

Combine that with Rach pushing Mhork and I as Town Vs Town...
Combine that with Rach pushing ME as the VI when Mhork doesn't have near the I.Q. I do, where my I.Q. is near-mensa level
Combine that with Rach pushing for what our other PRs should do....
OBV SCUM

[Saint]

plus she committed my girl-tell

[Saint]

tl;dr i voted her because she is rude, but i actually have a legitimate case on her. if you all want to "boy who cried wolf" me, whatever, but I have contributed to scumhunting, am being honest, genuine, etc... sooooooo....

if you all lynch me, off of these sheepy RVS + Mhork's idiotic, inane tunneling, PLEASE LYNCH RACH AND MHORK

3rd scum is in Jake/Deasvail interaction, if I had to pick, or a lurker that I don't have a read on, yet

[Saint]

assuming there are 3 scum. i'm going to watch the movie before i go to bed tonight, in like an hour, sleep on it, and wake up refreshed towards this game in terms of subject matter

[Saint]

ChannelDelibird replaces SafetyDance.

Saint, cut out the misogyny. Rule 0.

where am i being a misogynist ?

[Saint]

I got huge townvibes from Fuzzy in the opening pages. He's totally carefree (a general towntell) and consistent with the last time that I saw him as town.

agree

[Saint]

I have a very solid argument against mhork: he is selectively ignoring things

let me find my post in iso to get the exact numbers

i realized i did that and if you notice i have them both listed as town

You're just making things up though. You still haven't justified your ArcAngel read apart from 'he's town.'

mhork is really beating a dead horse here
i wonder if he will actually get around to hunting scum, or if he's content sitting on his thumb

I'm hunting scum right now, jackass.

you know what, i'm going with a policy vote policy of being a hypocritical village idiot. plus deasvail my strongest townread is voting him. plus im not going to be 3rd/4th voter and commit a jeep tell if he does flip town, which, if he isn't a townie idiot he's scum. it's pretty much 50% townie 50% scum from mhork at this point in my eyes, and i really dont care to lose him if he's either, if he's going to continously tunnel on me and hinder us later on, OR EVEN WORSE GET A WAGON ON ME

unvote;
vote: lord_mhork

Fuck off you fucking fuckface. You haven't provided one shred of evidence against me. What is my hypocrisy? What am I doing that's bad? What is scummy about me? Is it because I'm attacking you? Is because I'm perceiving things you're doing as scummy? Those aren't scumtells. And I'm going to keep tunneling you until you prove me wrong and start acting townie. Fuck off or get it together.

VOTE: vote: deasvail

Can we please lynch this? Someone give me one good case for why he's town apart from "I feel towniness" or "Scum wouldn't be this blatant."

...Saint wtf are you doing?

He's being a fuckhead. You should help me lynch him.

in fact, here is mhork COMPLETELY IGNORING MY 164
he quotes 163
he quotes 165
but not 164, conveniently for him!!!!!!!!!

here we are
the funny thing is I REMEMBERED THE NUMBERS, but I just wanted to make sure
Mhork didn't address this, either... he is either obtuse scum, or not reading as town... i'm actually leaning towards him being a village idiot, but i am going to catch up, and see what CDB thinks about him... I'd have him in "leaning scum" or "a pretty good lynch" but not a great one, at this point. Still really liking Rach for scum... was generally wanting her lynched, then became a specialized read when she parroted an argument, rephrasing it, iioa, scumandeering, and committed a scumtell i know of that i want to keep secret

[Saint]

also my "misogynist" line was POINTED TOWARDS DEASVAIL
SO YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID
DEASVAIL IS A GIRLY-MAN

[Saint]

can't ever hear too much from CDB

[Saint]

also my "misogynist" line was POINTED TOWARDS DEASVAIL
SO YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE INVALID
DEASVAIL IS A GIRLY-MAN

So your misogyny was actually homo/transphobia.

Seriously cut it out or I will request that you be replaced out/modkilled. And unlike Jake, I will be serious.

you're cool... hahaha

[Saint]

what the heck game just exploded.

Keep in mind everyone that I am currently sharing a computer with my fiance, good news is should have a new computer soon.

Welcome to the game CDB.

So Saint ever going to answer my questions?

PA I am working on it.

this is such an obvious scum post

reminds me of when i caught singersigner

[Saint]

I will say that I know PA is pretty good at being scum and I can provide a couple examples of that.

Also have games with DV.

and Fuzzy...

and Arc

lol not too many here I dont know

Saint is one so will have to do some meta stalking on him.

Hopefully that makes it clearer.....

I was saying PA is good at being scum and I could provide a cple of examples.

I was saying that I played with DV, Fuzzy, and Arc.

IIoA

[Saint]

rach more buddying in #374
this adds jake in with amrun as likely town if rach is scum
claiming the nulltell has me with an associative tell as well

Jake, you pressure other people to scumhunt, but i'd like to see where you yourself stand on the game, other than random pressurings
Care to make a list from town to scum, or vice versa? Thanks!

[Saint]

p.s. rach i generally ignore people who are obstinate/scum

if you are merely scummy as town, then i would like for you to prove that to me, THEN i will respond to you

toodles

[Saint]

well, goodnight peeps

[Saint]

I slept over 30 hours yesterday. Post-meet exhaustion. I am always scarce on weekends but I'll attempt to keep catching up tonight.

how can you sleep over 30 hours in a day

LAL

LYNCH AMRUN

haha jk... but really... you slept a day and a quarter? I mean, I sleep half a day, but for real... 30 hours? that's crazy. you might want to look into that.

[Saint]

I would be okay with a Rach or Ghost lynch at this point, honestly.

Would not lynch DV/p_a/CDB/FBN/Saint.

this list is what i've worked out as town, for the most part

am really liking your reads... if i had a hat on, i would tip it

hi five

[Saint]

Saint, can you please try to keep your thoughts in one post? maybe just spoil it or something. It creates useless page clutter.

quit being a baby

but yeah, i will

[Saint]

Thanks Amrun

Hi

Jake - who are you referring to as fakeclaiming on D1, and getting policy lynched?

Waiting on DeasVail to answer CDB before I continue scumhunting... don't want to stir the pot or spotlight at this point... sorry to spam, y'all... mike n mike in the morning -> bed -> lynch rachmarie -> steal underpants -> ??? -> profit

[Saint]

Do you have some reason to think that RachMarie is scummy? The chattiness seems more null to me.

Go read Popcorn Mafia that Rach is in, versus one of her town games.

She tends to be more hesitant giving reads when she's scum.

that is the most easily manipulated meta alteration you can ever do

in fact, that is one of the things I have started doing as scum more often myself

Amrun, if there are "moot" points to be made, you can call me a treant ... truant? TREE-ENT? the quick one, too!
but, for real, this is harry potter, not LOTR, so, sorry!

anyways, the post above me is shit. discuss.

[Saint]

that's not-what-i'm-saying
what i'm saying is: it is easy to change the meta you listed

[Saint]

I almost said that, Amrun

I almost said THAT, too

[Saint]

well, personally, i get lynched as town more than as scum... so maybe i should...

but in rach's case, i am definitely seeing a scummy entrance to the thread, at the least, to the point that i want to lynch there

i dont lynch for information, or i'd be voting mhork, or ghostlin. pretty much everyone has taken a stance there. i lynch scum.

[Saint]

By "easy lynch", can you define that in a different wording? You seem to be implying that

1) you think I'm town
2) you think scum can get you lynched easily

1 and 2 alone wouldn't be scummy, but combined, here, it feels like you're conceding the fact that town started a wagon on you, admitting i'm town, and are therefore knowledgable of who's town and who isn't

[Saint]

i was just replying to the above WIFOM
i didn't bring the wine into it, i finished it, and i don't even like it!

[Saint]

unvote;
vote: mhork

[Saint]

holy shit
someone ELSE is saintlike

[Saint]

"holy" shit

[Saint]

yeah - this inspired me to research book 1 a bit more... didn't really find anything of note...

[Saint]

i am still reeling from that quick hammer
in no way would i have been behaving that way if i was around, nor would i have let you guys
you all should be ashamed of yourselves
wasting a perfectly good lynch on a VI

[Saint]

I missed that claim tbh ... Would have lynched it... Rach could be right. Still.

[Saint]

Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?

[Saint]

RachMarie, who are your townie reads?

Don't you have a QT to talk about this stuff?

If they're masons, they should. Weird, but related question: do Masons frequently have day talk?

interesting wording considering it's not town, but TOWNIE

Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?

Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?

You ... or maybe Ghostlin. DV a distant third.

you, like i, must be a meta-reliant player
PA seems to be the same... liked her question to FBN

i am still reeling from that quick hammer
in no way would i have been behaving that way if i was around, nor would i have let you guys
you all should be ashamed of yourselves
wasting a perfectly good lynch on a VI

I missed that claim tbh ... Would have lynched it... Rach could be right. Still.

Yeah, I take full responsibility for that hammer, but I don't feel guilty doing it. Super saint, my ass.

lol hahahaha


Rach is surprisingly absent... I don't know what to think of that... We really should consider lynching into her/mhork eventually

[Saint]

im not sure how i read numbers, but i do remember him being scummy, and kinda flipfloppy
ill iso him and vote tomorrow or sometime if i dont get replaced out

[Saint]

====[]
here's why
i don't like seeing him say "mhork is town" for 2 reasons
amrun and CDB both have good reasoning
not arguing with you all on this one

vote: tmtolbtwntof

[Saint]

I would have hammered as either alignment. js

[Saint]

I would have hammered as either alignment. js

Why?

why did you change avatar

[Saint]

unvote;
vote: cdb

[Saint]

i could hammer

[Saint]

Saint, what do you think of BROseidon? Why is CDB scummier?

cdb kept giving excuses
i wanted to promote pressure for him to see if he would continue being helpful to the town - he did

i don't think he is scum at this point, and my vote is going off of him very shortly

[Saint]

fuzzybutternut - read town
penguin_alien - leaning scum
Mac RachMarie * - i guess mason
BROseidon - ???
SafetyDance * ChannelDelibird * - leaning town
Lord Mhork - i guess mason
DoctorPepper * Amrun - reading town
Saint * - know town
Ghostlin - null

so i really dont mind hammering here... waiting on claim...

[Saint]

unvote right now unless there is a hermione cc, and with harry being a townie, this all fits
if someone hammers they are lynched tomorrow, end of story/discussion/game

period

unvote now
NOW.

[Saint]

in fact the next person to post who has a vote on broseidon and doesnt unvote is going to get lynched

[Saint]

______________________
the line is in the sand
now i might not be the best player
but i know how this is going to go

my way
OR THE HIGHWAY
ok?!

[Saint]

Mhork if dude is scum, he would know that Arc was town, and there was plenty of scoffing and backlash on her fake claim to make it a hammer that would not come back to bite him in the ass.

So that is not enough to clear him.

But it's enough to not want to lynch his as much as, say, BROseidon.

i want you guys to NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER AT ALL
honestly, talk to the rest of the game
your alignments are CLEAR to you guys, regardless of what they are
so, you all are exhibiting noobish behavior

[Saint]

-_-

[Saint]

i need to catch up

[Saint]

yo dawg am i alive

[Saint]

im seamus or sheamus
let me check his full name
im a vt
the red haired kid

[Saint]

Seamus Finnegan

[Saint]

Which is a REALLY WEAK CLAIM that I wouldn't make as scum
/wifom

[Saint]

I would keep you alive, if I was scum, Amrun

Penguin, can you quit it with the obnoxious questions? You've been doing it all game

[Saint]

hammer yesterday is null and not alignment indicative as i would hammer as any alignment
TMT was on my ass all game, and I'm a self preservationist
I Wouldn't be admitting this as scum, tbh

The defense of Broseidon was correct, no? How can you ATTACK me for me calling the setup correctly? Why the fuck would scum call for an unvote?
Lynching a townie wasn't necessarily bad play, though, and I suspect there could be more to this puzzle than meets the eye
The name claim with Harry being VT made me think Hermione was either VT or a fakeclaim for scum which would automatically win the game for them from me(because i'm not lynching ahermione vt claim when harry flipped vt it just makes sense to me from a moderator standpoint k thx bye)

[Saint]

It's PA and Amrun
look at the nameclaims
...Ron is probably VT, just like Harry and Hermione, logically, from my perspective

[Saint]

im seamus or sheamus
let me check his full name
im a vt
the red haired kid

wait a minute...

the red haired kids were the Weasley family WTF? Seamus was from Ireland but he was not a Weasley....

he looks redhaired to me
not strawberry red but darker

[Saint]

im just sticking to the facts, hon

[Saint]

If there are 3 scum, it is LYLO
That is a good point, Amrun
There almost have to be 3 scum @ 13 slots, too, and with there being a dead cop/jailkeeper, and even one of the VTs might not be a VT (say Amrun or Ghostlin are lying) then Mhork and Rach are confirmed scum ... I actually don't see Mhork, Rach, AND CDB being power roles with a flipped Cop and 2 shot JK

so I'm a little backtracky right now
Amrun, don't push for a quicklynch on LYLO
You gonna let Mhork and Rach pull this off if they're scum?

[Saint]

meh