H2HFBYM - GAME OVER

[Mutleyddmc]

Hi guys I'm a replacement. Only just seen this game has reopened. I've only read the last page or so. But I won't be able to read any more until tomorrow. Any one care to give me some summary of the game so far? Always helps me to catch up

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Nah I prefer to sheep and follow one person!!

[Mutleyddmc]

I caught up. Mollie is scum.

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I trust your vote zoidberg you are a doctor

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I trust your vote zoidberg you are a doctor

Look at your iso. It is literally a pile of shit.

I cant look it smells too much I will be sick

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How am I not playing?

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That doesn't mean I'm not playing? Zodie is town is my only real read at the moment

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LOLZ one game is meta.

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I haven't read it all properly yet tbf. You also seem like I great wind up guy. Once I have anything substantial maybe ill tell you

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No I don't lie. I caught up and that is all I had caught up. I don't have a lot to do at work so I might be able to do something but until then I'm covered in horse manure unfortunately

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Hmm I've read like the day 2 stuff but don't feel I can comment properly without forming any of my own shit. I've read properly the last few pages of day 1. Then briefly read the first lot. So not really an actual page number

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I have one real read.

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No you are town because you are the only one picking up on me and questioning it.

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Ooh sorry marangal what was your question?

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Oh I don't even know how I missed it. What more do you want from me marple? I know you aren't as easy to wind up. There's a few thoughts of mine that popped into my head in some of my readings want those? Although they are just thoughts and I haven't read to see if I can make it valid or not yet?

[Mutleyddmc]

Golden quote from the linked game:

You should probably replace out then. As you aren't being helpful in the slightest now. You have become the troll. You should replace out as sadly I think you are town. If I thought you were scum I'd just lynch you.

Town-mutley is criticising others for being unhelpful and saying they should replace out.

Contrast that to his play this game and tell me why I should read him as town?

I don't like to meta defend myself. But it's pretty obvious that was later in the game.

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Dont you worry my lobstery friend I will find you a scum. for now I have done my non scum huny

disclaimer: might be wrong my scum might not be scum

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Do you have to vote to play?

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VOTE ME

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ps more you tell me to do something the less I am to do it. but marple asked so i still will at somepoint

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somepoint soon

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I agree with you here zoidey. PS I am actually doing some reading too. anyone who thinks im obvtown from those posts need looking at.

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actually I liked your reasoning for it. Therefore I am looking at you less.

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I haent read the whole game so you lie

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I caught up on the fact mollie was scum. I swear I said this before

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Hey KBW. Don't discount me as scum because of it though. No reason I can't be scum still

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Oh cool, I didn't know that "I caught up" actually means "I haven't caught up"

Pretty much. I'd call it a dry joke.

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Vote self day?

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I have some thoughts. I'm crap at quote posting so I will just write as I think.

I didn't like
TAM
Zoidbergs

posts after the nacho kill, I never like those kind of posts. However zoidbergs insistance on me has give me a town read so TAM for me is a possible scum.

I thought you were scum last time we played and you were the doc. Now I think you are town, so you must be scum!! I don't like reading you tbh

I didn't like the dead votes yesterday but then I saw one was mollie and one was me. So I suppose that was the scum in mollie with the dead vote.

This post 49 shit interests me too. There was also something else I saw but I cant quite remember. Give me a while to see if I can find it

[Mutleyddmc]

I have some thoughts. I'm crap at quote posting so I will just write as I think.

I didn't like
TAM
Zoidbergs

posts after the nacho kill, I never like those kind of posts. However zoidbergs insistance on me has give me a town read so TAM for me is a possible scum.

I thought you were scum last time we played and you were the doc. Now I think you are town, so you must be scum!! I don't like reading you tbh

I didn't like the dead votes yesterday but then I saw one was mollie and one was me. So I suppose that was the scum in mollie with the dead vote.

This post 49 shit interests me too. There was also something else I saw but I cant quite remember. Give me a while to see if I can find it

Why did it take so long for you to post this? or anything similar to this at the very least?

VOTE: Mara

What is this? Is this a slip of some kind or just really really bad play?

Tell me what you think that was.

when I see someone getting wound up I love it combined with the fact I never really catch up quifckly when replacing. Id have kept it going longer if you hadnt benn so nice

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To marple

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I don't like people who use numbers for letters. I am assuming the 3 is instead of an e.

I liked your point on him not mentioning notscience much since voting.

The posts above read town on first read through. He you and zoid are a part of that post 49 shit that interests me. I haven't wrapped my head around it yet. I have an idea but not thinking clearly on it yet.

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I feel I should vote

VOTE: TAM

I really didnt like his or zoids first posts of day 2. I am never a fan of those type of posts. I have zoid as town so I that leaves the other.

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Hey wow, I lived.

Interesting that Nacho was killed. I will have to put that into my databanks to see what is going on...

These are the posts I don't like. I never have and never will in mafia.

However I think zoid is town because of the way he reacted to my opening. Therefore I go with the otherone who posted crap day 2 opening. If TAM isn't scum my town read on zoid will be looked at.

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Oh snap a prod. Looks Like I wasn't the only one to forget about this game, activity hasn't been too high since I last posted. Zoid has lost town status for that post. Why won't scum kill me?

In generic terms why would scum never kill someone, what if they were a cop or doctor etc. PS I'm not too bad in Lylo situations.

[Mutleyddmc]

However I give you probs for that Hi five image. Makes me laugh. I'm using that in future and nothing you can say to stop me

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Seems Zoid aint getting lynched today, so I'ma just go with the flow.

Unvote, Vote: Mozamis

Zoid and Mutley, I'm watching you too. You guys are scummy.

This post caught my eye, because earlier on KBW was one to say oh mutley is always that way. Yet now he seemingly finds me scummy. Along with zoidberg. Pretty sure me and zoidy are either both town or hes scum. No way we are both scum. Would be sthe stupidest bus ever on day 2 after a mafia has already been lynched. Could happily vote you now. Infact

VOTE: KBW

[Mutleyddmc]

Looks Like I wasn't the only one to forget about this game, activity hasn't been too high since I last posted.

Seriously? 5 pages have gone by, did you read them or skim them? What happened to your TAM read? Why do both of your 'cases' seem like they only revolve around a couple posts?

5 pages is nothing in about 5 days. Thats poor form. TAM is still looked at but its only really based on the fact I hate those posts. Combine that with the fact I'm not too happy with zoidey now so his similar day 2 post can be brought into the equation.

KBW flippant on me I think puts him as possible scum because it seems like he came under some pressure, then decided who is the easy lynch lets put a scum read on him, even though he defended me not too long before

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Ermm 5 pages is not much activity. I've posted 5 pages worth of posts in a real life day myself.

My main read on TAM came from his first post of day 2. I don't like those posts. Zoid made a similar post, however I had him as town so went with TAM being the scum.

Since zoids crappy posts on me he could be scum now. Therefore the read on those day 2 posts is blurred.

KBW ow more scummy, defends me until he comes under pressure. Calls me scummy now as easy deflection lynch.

[Mutleyddmc]

Like I was worrying about your townpoint count.

And learn to play mafia, please. We do have confirmed town here. Whether via cop or just people with mafia knowledge understanding circumstances that confirm others as town.

You need to learn what confirmed means.

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Hmmm I dont know if it would be that obvious. Maybe scum protecting town, so if KBW flips town he gets town cred. Or to him'confirmed' town status

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Other than the last few bits from Zoid. I liked him as town cos of his interactions in my trolling.

So therefore with AJ possibly doing what I said above. Ill go with AJ

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Wow so you really want to be like oh lets compare kiddo.......... Thats really sad. Yes lets compare.

Doesn't mean you know what confirmed means. Confirmed means certain as to the truth. Different to obviously town etc.

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I am blunt. If you believe me to be rude, too bad.

Mutley, had you read this thread in it's entirety, you might be able to catch why KBW is confirmed town. I'll give you a hint: It's before when I ask Beavers to never lynch KBW.

Stop saying confirmed. Ok I will go back and read it again to see. You will know my findings dependant on my outcome of vote

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UNVOTE:

I think I see it. Easy to miss btw considering KBW doesn't have a whole lot of content to post from so I wasn't really taking notice of his actual posts on my read throughs

Ps if its what I think it is still not confirmed town. It's pretty obvious town not confirmed town.

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I don't think hes saying that post 305 is why. He was just hinting that it was before then.

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I need to read her more I think, however the case in the last few pages is a good one, doesnt feel like the town mara I played with. However earlier on I got town vibes. So for now I am fence sitting

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@Mutley - I wasn't saying you were scum, I said I was watching you.

got it sexy

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I want in on ^ action

/in

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KBW

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Why do people keep asking if I've read it. I clearly have. I even then said I went back over to see the KBW thing. So clearly I did

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Why do people keep asking if I've read it.

I dunno, maybe because you lied about reading it before and you've not really commented on much.

I clearly have.

Prove it. Build a case on fucking anybody.

Welcome Kthx & Pope.

Pope- Plz take a look at ns and let me know what you think. I find it more likely that he's Scum over moza. They are def not Scum together, but I have the feeling one is.

No need to get aggressive. Zoidey already learnt that never gets me doing anything. You just feed my troll and I like it

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Well that makes everything easier
notscience, put moza at L-1, and when someone comes, I'll convince them of voting moza alright?
You expected me to read those 40 pages overnight? lolwat

You havent read them overnight. Zoid, d3x etc get him, he didnt read it right away.

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It was sarcasm on the fact I got had a go at for not wanting to read up so quickly.

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What am I doing right now?

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I'll try catching up later guys, haven't been in since the fake hammer (tricked me) and the down time. At work with not too much to do so should be able to post some stuff today.

Only thing for now, I've onyl ever seen one fake hammer and it was town.

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Mutley

Where has Mutters gone?

He has yet to do anything of use, and is sitting there being useless. he hasn't given us his thoughts in the game and I don't see where Beavers is getting a town read on him. what is interesting D1 though, is the fact that Mollie thought it was weird to have Toogers be placed in her town pile which strikes me as odd, and makes Mutters a plausible partner.

Lean-scum

KBW

I think he's still likely scum. He's been fairly useless, and V/LA most of the game though that is what KBW does alot of the time. I have a hard time seeing any motive coming from him, though if I'm going to trust Nacho's read on him that puts the scum pool at

Aj, D3x, and Mutters. Everyone else is town of varying Degrees

Starting through catching up. I'll start here I suppose. You always find me scum mara, and I love it. I haven't really gone anywhere though, I didn't checkin much after the fake hammer combined with me getting 504 errors before the down time too. Thoughts on game are its quite a slow one most of the time but is picking up and I hate slow games as you know, I probably haven't contributed much though so partly my fault.

As with everyone it seems the AJ reaction was pretty scummy, and his recent posts have been a bit fishy and seem to be very trying to be careful to do/say the right thing. As I don't have a vote anywhere right now I thiki it deserves one for now

VOTE: AJ

[Mutleyddmc]

I swear you had me as scum most of it or was that TAM?

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I dunno when deadline is, so I'm going to lay down a vote before I head off to bed.

Here's where I'm looking at it from. I don't think mollie's lynch wagon was all town. Someone had to have bussed.

Wagon was:

Zoidberg

,

mozamis

,

Nachomamma8

, AngryBeavers,

notscience

, KeybladeWielders,

d3x

I have town reads on everyone except d3x whom I have as null. Most people are calling him town so for the sake of deadline I'll just sheep that because fuck it.

I find KBW much scummier than AB, and I don't think the silly prod thing confirms him as town.

VOTE: KBW

It's unlikely I will change this vote before deadline, as I have an exam tomorrow and a social thing afterwards.

I don't like this post, seems different to the zoid I've seen rest of the game. Oh I don't know when deadline is so I will place this vote here, seems to be distancing himself from this vote for whatever reason that is. I like wagon analysis but feels to me like you are just using this oppurtunity to use it as the best reason to knock off some people. Thats what I get from this post anyway

[Mutleyddmc]

Less than a day to go before deadline?
People on smaller wagons/not voting (which I think is Zoid,Dx, Mutley?), could you get on board either AJ or Mara?

I am on AJ already. I'd prefer to stay there but over a no lynch is move to mara

[Mutleyddmc]

Wow VT, I didn't think that, I thought you were a PR or scum mara, leaning PR. Never thought you were a VT, I can't read you

I've hammered like that as town before and as scum, so I take it as null. I'll lean scum on it if Mara flips town due to Kthx reasons plus the fact that I had her as possible PR could it be scum thinking the same and taking that risk?

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I don't doubt you, you aren't a troll like some................ definitely not me

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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Obviously wait until tomorrow for ifnal decisions. However I agree mara is a good player, and am happy to baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa over her reads.

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Right as I said at end of yesterday I am happy to sheep some mara reads. So that leaves aj and dex. I'm also looking at KBW. Then zoid I've become warier of but I'm still happy enough with him at he moment. I like when people actually try to lynch me. Like he has. I don't think scum actually like to go out there and start a lynch on my play style as it brings some attention to themselves. However they like to attack this kind of playstyle without much substance as its an easy way to look like a scum read.

Therefore lets look at dex who has called me out a lot but never really pushed it. It have most of his posts a scum hunt vibe but without really ever managing to push it.

Combine with baaaaaaaahing some mara lets
VOTE: d3x

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That sounds scary and a big threat. I'm not too bothered by living tbf but I could get on AJ

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Im guessing scum role-cop'd TAM on night 1.

Or Kthx was really right about AJ/KBW

I sex copped you last night

Result : tomato

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I don't think scum actually like to go out there and start a lynch on my play style as it brings some attention to themselves. However they like to attack this kind of playstyle without much substance as its an easy way to look like a scum read.

What do you mean by this? On the one hand the first sentence sounds like "Scum don't attack me as they draw attention to themselves". On the other hand, the second sentence sounds like you are saying "scum attack me because my playstyle can look scummy".
Sounds like a contradiction, please explain.

I get really bad at explaining myself when I'm on to something. Zoidey attacked me and voted etc actually tried to push it through. For reasons I am anti town and would be helpful to the town for me to be gone.
Where as scum like to passive attack. Call me out but not actually push it through because they don't want the responsibility of the lynch.
Big reason why Zoidey even though recently has waned off the huge town read I have on him. Still has one.

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Yes they like to add in attacks on me in posts. As it gives off exta scum hunting feel to them. So they get town points. Yet never really vote because they don't see threats from me/ don't want the responsibility.

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Do what we said end of day 2. Sheep mara.

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why?

TIP is softing a guilty. At least it looks like it.

You think with doctor dead a cop would soft that obviously?

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Hmm that's true. I suppose with doctor gone they need to get the info out before dying with no doc to protect.
Point taken

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WIFOM!!!!!

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Notscience is a whore lol

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All this is good and well but I think we should get dex. Combine what I'm onto with the fact that, nacho and mara both had scum reads lets do it. Moza why aren't you voting him or aj? After your twilight post yesterday I thought you would go after one of them at least?

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The hammer is null. There's scum and town reasons for it.

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I have the same read in that there. Hammering like that and then using it as a defense makes me lean scum on the hammer. Otherwise it's null.

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@Mutley -yes, I was up for sheeping Mara at the end of the Game Day. But I re=read the early bit of the thread, and caem out ona different tack (togs/you), which I've now abandoned. Dx has been up there for me all game. AJ has been a town read.
I'm liking Zoid's assault on..I want to say REDHORN but sadly it's Angry Beavers lol
I'm pre-nicotine and tired as hell, so I'll delay a Beavers vote. But yeah, what's going on Beavers? Why the sudden complete turn around on KBW?

Fair enough. Who else other than beavers do you think could be scum? Dex? Sheep me on dex then

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likely you, beavers. I don't even remember kthxbye even suspecting me.

pedit: as moza said (wow, I agree with him for once as well), the turnaround is very suspicious.

ppedit: mutley; I had 4 more days of vacation where I wouldn't have internet and felt I should do something, Marangal wasn't helping.

My point being that's fine. Hence it's null. But to use it the way you just did as I wouldn't be so stupid as scum makes me lean scum on the intention. Especially combine with the fact I thought mara could be a PR.

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I always hate riding in the back seat

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D3x lynch come on. Only two other lynches I could support today KBW and AJ. Wouldn't be surprised if all 3 were scum.

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You're all stupid. Leave me alone ;-(

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God.

you rang?

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WTF is going on here. KBW knows shit, uses defences like scum wouldnt hammer like that. I know this I know that. More defences like penny wouldnt be mafia even though its randomised. Well I said KBW needed looking at. I don't wanna vote without a VC though tbh. even unofficial? whats KBW at?

[Mutleyddmc]

yer wait a minute I'm so confused. So basically KBW is claming godfathers. While ab is claiming roleblockers?

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hmmm feels like KBW has been caught out and is throwing everything at saving one more day.

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I don't wanna vote without a VC though tbh. even unofficial? whats KBW at?

Why does the vote count matter?

didnt feel like hammering without a clam today

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but hes not there as I counted VOTE: kbw

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hey not only am i now on kbw. I was on d3x

[Mutleyddmc]

didnt feel like hammering without a clam today

Why not?

only feel like that when i feel like fucking shit up.

[Mutleyddmc]

didnt feel like hammering without a clam today

Why not?

only feel like that when i feel like fucking shit up.

If you think they're scum then you ought to want them dead, it shouldn't matter if they claim or not. Why are you voting if you don't want to hammer?

lost the doc already not in the mood to lose another PR so fast. I'm voting now im convinced

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oh. I really need to start reading the wiki before I use the term....

damnit

I just don't think with the setup and flavor there would be any major mafia PR other than the gf. Also, check the other thread with the same title....

GODFATHER.

In addition, I did answer your questions AB. Whether or not you choose to read them is up to you.

this is uber retro but
are you suggesting that theres a god father in the theme park game? call me stupid but I just looked and I see framer role cop and tracker?

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I'm not convinced on KBW town. I'm not jsut voting her for the PR talk (AB actually started it by saying roleblocker). I'm convinced of scum because of his defences of his hammer etc. The whole scum wouldn't do that, Penny wouldn't be scum etc. AJ you say he fake hammered in his last game probably to do what he is doing here, the whole scum wouldn't do that defence, am I right?

Also can we stop talking PL, we are trying to find scum no-one has done anything that bad for a PL, even when I was trolling.

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Right I just did a quick ISO of my two biggest scum reads, KBW and d3x as I wanted to see if they could be possible scum buddies. Theres is pretty much 0 interaction betweeen the two. d3x mentions KBW once I believe to say he is 'flat null'. Where as I don't think KBW mentions d3x once.

Thoughts on possible scum buddies there? Right now I am happy to go with either one of those.

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I don't think it is a pure scum tell. However thought it was weird that my 2 biggest scum reads at the moment were like that.

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Right as I said at end of yesterday I am happy to sheep some mara reads. So that leaves aj and dex. I'm also looking at KBW. Then zoid I've become warier of but I'm still happy enough with him at he moment. I like when people actually try to lynch me. Like he has. I don't think scum actually like to go out there and start a lynch on my play style as it brings some attention to themselves. However they like to attack this kind of playstyle without much substance as its an easy way to look like a scum read.

Therefore lets look at dex who has called me out a lot but never really pushed it. It have most of his posts a scum hunt vibe but without really ever managing to push it.

Combine with baaaaaaaahing some mara lets
VOTE: d3x

Heres my reasoning from my vote, although thats not the best worded, I explained it better after to moza if you want to look further. It started last night when I decided to sheep mara on AJ or d3x. Thought about the whole not pushing hard on me, mentioning me to seem like posts are scum hunting, however I was an easy target to pick on for scum but not to take responisbility for the lynch so don't push/vote until it builds up steam. So combine that with a slight sheeping of mara and nacho too. Then yer d3x is big scum candidate

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Its not really sheeping. IT started out like that when moza joked about it. Then it turned into a strong scum read so yer its a variant of sheeping but its not solely based on sheeping.

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Lets play duck duck goose?

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Duck

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Duck

goose

*chases KBW*

*catches KBW*

KBW is scum

[Mutleyddmc]

Lol that's nothing!

[Mutleyddmc]

Seriously guys. We played duck duck goose, KBW got caught as scum, why are we not taking the duck duck goose method super cereal?

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We are lynching KBW, he lost at duck duck goose.

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I just can't look past some obvious things KBW did, The whole scum wouldn't hammer like I did, the I knew this I knew that. Then godfather stuff, then Penny wouldn't be scum. Then he lost at duck dcuuk goose which was the killer

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well, for a start the fact that people are saying he "slipped" set of alarm bells. In almost every game I've played on Mafiascum, "slips" normally turn out to be some Town cock up/misunderstanding.
Probably because as scum, you spend a few extra seconds checking what you've posted.
I'm not saying "slips" are impossible, it's just I'm sceptical about them.

I'm not saying he slipped. I am saying he defended himself by doing actions clearly knowing he was going to defend them with that was not what scum would do. Actively using that defence. ALthough the one game here someone 'slipped' they were actually mafia for me! But I agree 'slips' mean little hence why I am looking more at other points of KBW

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You don't find the whole defences scummy at all?

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Kthx was killed and suspected KBW. Thats one good reason to quicklynch KBW.

Do you really think I as scum would be that stupid?

This is the other one.

Using that sort of defence twice, this and the penny one jsut sets of huge scumdar

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What that you did something and said yourself oh but scum wouldn't do that as a defence.

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Yes that is bullshit ignore it

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What are peoples thoughts on TIP? I don't really feel much there, sort of slipping under my radar, worries me. quick ISO isn't that town or scummy

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See if I can summon someone else. Thoughts on........................................................... NS


appear

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Didn't work. Why did you post only when I mentioned you TIP?

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and you'd rather not start your own discussions? as it might mean you get caught out?

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I like you.

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Oh too bad. I could have been if you were

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Cos he doesnt want to push things, is lurking, moving hugely in my scum pile TIP

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Hmmm VOTE: TiP

Start talking TiP.

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Oh I see so now I'm trying to find scum, and on to TIP, you've gone all crazy zoid again.

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Why is TIP town NS?

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Oh cos I was reading a marathon game earlier in which. TiP was scum. And someone (mara) caught him in her mason QT saying she knew TIP was scum due to lurking and not pushing much. Which is why it pinged that's what he seems to be doing here

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He kinda is lurking, this day he has come in just posted not a whole lot everyone in a while. My suspicions are hugely in place

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That's a good find however that was made in day 2 when he was doing that stuff. In day 3 he hasn't acted the same way. Although the one bit he hasn't been is far more nervous. This is a much longer mara read on TIP than the one I briefly read earlier. So I will have to have a think about this now.

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Ugh, this game.

I think Zoid, Moza, and TIP and AJ are town.

D3x, Ns, KBW, mutley has scum in it.

D3x Wed really like a chance to ping you in real time. You just feel weird this game.

Mutley... I dont really get your TIP obsession. Lurking is a shitty excuse to FoS someone.

It was more to do with I read something in a marathon game where TiP turned scum and it pinged he had started acting like that here. So I wanted to know why?

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ITs a wagon now

VOTE: d3x

one I wanted to begin the day.

Still dont see this as guranteed TIP town. I just see this as TIPs playstyle now regardless of alignment

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TIP


Duck......

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My main reason is he kept bringing me up without ever pushing. Yes I know he wants you lynched so maybe thats a perfectly legitimate reason for it. However scum often talk about people with my playstyle withhout ever pushing it, it seems like he is scum hunting without ever really doing it. He tunnels you but then says oh and mutley do something etc etc. To make it seem like he hasnt just tunneled on you.

Sort of like what he just did there as moza brought up. Going for you then calls me and KBW out again easy targets but is still on you.

I still don't like TiP or KBW, KBW last two posts are really scummy. Jumps on d3x mainly OMGUSy it seems, not ocmplaining cos its something I can get behind but still. Then the last one is all don't start this shit again or I will vote. Cos I caught you last time is it KBW

you didnt say duck so yer you lose AGAIN

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I'll unvote you two vote, Ill hammer yes?

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I miss RVS

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Ignore him he's just annoyed hes not bender

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Does it have to be a vote to be OMGUS. He mentioned you and now you are voting him.

Dont forget I brought up earlier how you hadn't mentioned him once before. Now you are voting him

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You sure change opinions to match the situation don't you?

Please explain? The fact that you voted someone cos they called you scummy. Even though you haven't mentioned them at all, which I brought up before?

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And look at the way the debate went anyway! If he was clever "lets bullshit about PR's and confuse town" scum, I think he would have got a better argument going than "Er, I think there is a Mafia Godfather just cos, er, like I think there is".

This is kind of a compelling point but Im having a hard time getting over how it all started. He accused us of being Vanilla Mafia -> we said that was a weird stance -> he then claimed herpaderp about believing there to be non-vanilla mafia in the game.

It wasn't just random spec about mafia in the game, it was because we called him out on calling us Vanilla Mafia.

I still stand by the reads posted before weekend - moza/zoid/aj/tip likely town. Mutley I think is town but not extremely convinced. None of NS's posts really make me want to townread him. D3x I still have some hope for a townflip from, but *shrug*. Reading..

You should never be confident in me be town in any game. I'd be offended if you were unless you knew 100% that I was

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Who have I buddied? Oh and have you not done kind of similar jumped on a d3x wagon, even though you've barely mentioned him and had a whole lot more scummy players. Tbf I'm happy with this wagon so I shouldn't be saying your reasons for it are wrong but yer you are scum.

Plus you've lost duck duck goose twice

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i told you if you mentioned it again....

Vote: mutley

We need to PL this guy.

werent you earlier saying you didnt even know what a PL was now you want to PL me?

you were saying im scum for erratic voting? hmmmmmmmmmm then we must be scum buddies. Post the link to our topic again I lost it?

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No. I dont know who your scummy butt partner is, but you are scumz

surely according to your last two votes their scum partner is one of my or d3x

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my is me

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What do ropes do? He climbing somewhere?

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Yes I'm sitting on a fence that involves voting you

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You're asking us to lynch someone most of us think is town.

Mollie-D3x-Beavers is the scum group.

who do most of us think are town?

I only have 1 town read at the moment and thats moza, the rest of you are so scummy

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I like how since I mentioned there was no interaction between KBW and d3x there has been now and even voted eachother at some point now!

Bussing eachother?

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By PoE no. Doesn't mean he is a town read.

You ignored my who do most of us think is town?

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Who hasn't been wagoned?

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Not for lack of trying on my part!

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Jason VC is wrong I beleive, KBW is on l-1. d3x is on him. Don't know who this beyblade fella is maybe he's hidden scum?

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Seriously though we shouldn't PL anyone, we should lynch scum. I want to lynch KBW but I can see there is other stuff to talk about so I will try to refrain from all my might to hammer. However I cant gurantee I will get bored and hammer.

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Was that not the hammer. Even I didnt hammer. God TIP. I love TIP though, Man after my own heart

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Yer this reactio nis rather weird.

Why does you dying mean scum suddenly spawns 2 extra or something? Beyblade?

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No probably not, still we should hydra TIP. all I will give him is KBW wasnt exactly doing great at defending himself

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Dont think it matters KBW does it?

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Thats to the unvote. Not the beavers and pope bit

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Duck.............

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Why wont you play with me?

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28 hour dinner, nice

Yea, sorry. I ended up getting a phone-call to go out last night. Plus I am fat and eat a lot

Who doesn't eat a lot!!

Moza any reason for the straight out the bat vote? I know he's scummy but just a straight up vote?

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@ Mutley -it was meant as a "tribute" to Zoid. He voted early on for no (given) reason, I said he was scummy. So yeah...sorry Zoid.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure NS is scum. His partner is more tricky -basically anyone but you - but lets concentrate on knocking out one scum at a time.

Ok fair enough. Yer I can get sold on NS scum. Still unsure on TIP. D3x NS team makes a whole lotta sense.

Beavers did you just call beavers scum? Even though in twilight yesterday you were all its d3x and NS?

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I meant moza lol.

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That's why i was confused and asking the question.im too tired to think mafia right now lol

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Welcome to the game

Hmm I can't even remember my thoughts on AJ too much, no interaction with this slot for a while. Neeed to read AJ's Iso which I will probably be too lazy to do

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I'm down to lynch d3x, TIP or NS today. Mrbatlet makes a good point on AB, you wanted a 1vs1 on KBW. Now I think you are town so obviously when proven wrong as town you aren't exactly going to say oh yer lynch me and lose another town. So actually I'm seeing it as null. Scum or town you would have that reaction come to think about it.

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I'm not against a mass claim today btw

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Reading NS at the moment, and nothing strikes me as town in there at all. I want to hear his case he has made.

To make sure of that lets apply small pressure to make sure he delievers, unlike my postman this morning!!

VOTE: Notscience

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I'll go 1vs 1 on you TIP

AND WTF QUICK HAMMER? D3x is scum you fucking bastard. Please be bussing you scum buddy. TIP and d3x scum team for sure. Didn't even acknowledge the hammer

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1 vs 1 mudwrestling go!

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Seriously though. D3x is dead tomorrow bye bye. Then you TIP

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Nothing makes sense anymore.

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Well I wanted him yesterday and would have probably gone him at somepoint today.

DW I'm not even talking tomorrow. Straight up vote.

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Yes mara and nacho said d3x was scum, as you said moza wanted to sheep then didnt. What do you think on partners there NS? I want as much input from you before you die

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D3x get in here and explain yourself anyway. Or are you just admitting your time is up?

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Surprisingly KBW did it before. However that was nearer the deadline, so I am not disagreeing with you. I'm voting him first post tomorrow

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The only one I see is if hes cop or something and he knows you are scum so didnt want to give you a chance. Theres like a 0.00001% chance of that being the case though. Was it even 3 days in?

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VOTE: d3x

this is easy

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Ugh Im glad I checked in b4 lock, in way too many games.

If I take KBW out my T->S list is like

AB
AJ
Moza
TIP
Zoid
Mutley
D3x
NS

Pretty sure it's you TIP.

This is the cops lost at one point. Day 3. So he'd have had 2 investigations. It's clear he had no guilty otherwise NS wouldn't be scummiest. However look at who is second only after him. AJ. He says after this every one above zoid is like conf town. However he'd have only had 2 investigations. So really prob only AJ and moza. Also later in his ISO he's pretty sure on a you d3x scum team.
Sorry mate cop cleared AJ, there is no discussion!

VOTE: TIP

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Do you not agree that the cop has cleared AJ?

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Although UNVOTE:

The fact you didnt OMGus me is confusing.

Pedit Wow maybe I am wrong that's what I was waiting for

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Why are you ignoring the fact that AJ is pretty much cop cleared. I wouldn't vote so easily otherwise

The OMGus has now confirmed it so

VOTE: TIP [/unvote]

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Lol that was poor vote tagging

VOTE: TIP

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Also what tricked am I doing? All I've said is the cop has pretty much cleared him. The only person to vote for is you. Why else would I not vote early. It only leaves you

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Why did you leave TIP?

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NS you say town lost. But the fact that we only let the cop have 1 night of investigation probably meant we won it. I don't know if ab saw aj that night but it's likely. The reason I actually voted early was because I just had a lylo game as scum where I didnt and waited to vote.
TIP you can't go off on a newb you did nothing to convince otherwise other than try to say my cop thing was bollocks. As d3x says you could have got loads you looked like defeated scum to me. I was always keeping you alive in lylo cos I didn't think you would search much.

Yer mara had me early on lol. However that was just when we finished a newb game where I wasn't so troll like. I wonder if I convinced you after you were dead?

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Zoid was also right don't let me get to LYLO

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TIP didnt eat anyone up 1 vs 1.......

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Tbf TIP if I was town I would have gone for you in lylo. You did nothing to look town in lylo. Other than try and counter my cop arguement with he could have been roleblocked. You made no arguement. You just lost my 1 vs 1!
Also your OMGus was scummy
You came in and just said be careful with votes, but made no actual point.
Lylo is the most important part of the game I love making it here town or scum. You have to change your game slightly can't do the coasting part at this stage if you want to win.

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The original scum team got AB first day. I take no credit. Then we didnt do N 2. Then the whole KBW thing where AB mentioned roleblockers meant it was confirmed. Kept him alive until he was on to us knowing there was no doc. Kthx gambit meant we definitely killed him. Had he not done that I'd have prob said to dex to keep him alive

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Also be careful about people doing things you think are town. Once everyone though moza was town I decided I had to convince moza to get me through to lylo. That's why I started my vote on TIP. I knew you liked those who didnt follow the two wagons building so tried to vote TIP to make it look like I was town to you.

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The original scum team got a PR vibe off him quickly I believe. We didnt block him N2. Wonder who he looked at? However went he godfather thing from KBW came out and AB mentioned roleblockers it was obvious he had a PR and our roleblock n1 had been successful.

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We decided to quick hammer. We needed to guarantee a lylo. So we decided if there was a qh chance cos there was no way d3x could have stayed away from another lynch. So 1 for 1 was taken!

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I also think you are being very harsh NS. There was only 1 mislynch he helped with that was you. As has been discussed TIP is great for a scum to take into lylo. And if you make it again as town TIP hopefully you take the advice moza, me and d3x said

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Well this was also different to scum mutley so that's stupid. Meta shouldn't be the only defence of someone. As I've said loads TIP did nothing in lylo. If you have made it to lylo you have to buckle up and do it for the town. TIP was perfect for lylo and I never thought about killing him

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In all this midst I've forgotten to say woooooooooooohooooooooo. We did it dex. Oh and mollie and toog although I had no interaction with you guys. I don't think either of us ever thought we would do it when I replaced in and it became damage limitation. I only thought about the win probably only after the KBW lynch

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I know when I first replaced in I could tell you were frustrated. However I can't not act like that or people will lynch me ASAP. It happened in micro 196 I replaced in. Immediately someone said why am I not trolling.

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Wow this is hugely blame culture here. You guys don't wanna take any of your own blame. Pretty much the whole town made mistakes. Hence we won scum dont win without mistakes. TIP admit your lylo play was bad. Bartlett you could have done better and he's maybe you should have played some newbie games. However not to toot my own horn I don't think it would have mattered who was at lylo with you TIP with your play.

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All your posts post game suggest otherwise lol

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Where did that come from NS?

Also it takes 3 people to put you at L-1. We had a plan and it worked. To get a quick hammer no matter what.

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I mean't you bring up the L-1. no one was talking about it