Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Andrius]

VOTE: JABBERWOCK

KILLED ALL MY HOBBITS ;_;
HI TIERCE ITS FINALLY HAPPENING
AND BORK TOO HI FIRST GAME TOGETHER

Okay. First off, since my return to the site, I've never got to actually participate in a RVS. So, I'm happy to have the chance to VOTE: Natirasha.

Now, act two. I got to ask: does anyone else have an ability with text that approximately says "you don't know what this ability does or how to activate it"?

What the hell is this.
Natirasha stahp
Natirasha pls

Oh and No, nothing specifically to those words.

Wow, Nati, I'm betting that's against the rules or something

No.

Wow, Nati, I'm betting that's against the rules or something
For those who do not know me: I am TheIrishPope! You may call me Irish, Pope, TIP, or by any new nickname! Me no like RVS, so I prefer RQS yaaaay
Heey how about we all flavour claim for no reason!
The next one to post will be my victim!

Make the bad man fly mommy!

Vote: TIP

Hi guys. Cabd here. We're honestly not going to bother with having ffery sign, because she and I talk differently enough.

Or you could save us all the trouble and sign your posts!

I agree with Tierce. Succintness is pro-town.

TOWN
Tierce
bork
cabd

SCUM
tip
natirasha

What do you think of the Empire and Tierce combo? Is their nagging a town tell too?

Helpful and informative =/= nagging.

Vote: TIP

Now, you see, I have found that people are scum when they:
Refuse to answer harmless RQS questions from the beginning, or

You really love RQS.
And really love not asking questions to go along with it.
But besides that.
Townreads
Scumreads

Now, you see, I have found that people are scum when they:
Refuse to answer harmless RQS questions from the beginning, or
Quit when the questions start getting serious.
This quite gives me a slight Town read on Purpkin at best, although, I do need to see Mara posting.
Meta doesn't work. I'm changing my play.

Do not make sweeping generalisations of my play.

you change your playstyle so much
you don't even drop a "hi saki <3"?

I find that very hard to believe

Can you explain your relationship with TIP.
How does him not saying Hi affect your read of him?

@Saki, I'd get nagged by Tierce. I can't risk that.

Explain this please.

LLD is rubbing me wrong so far; her questions are really banal.

Can you go into that a little more?
The banal part, that is.

Silly Lady thinks she's scary.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Saki Town
TIP read pending on Saki responses
borkdra town
jabberwock town

borktown.

I'm cabd and I approve this fferypost 120%

ffery
this is concise
and amazing

fferytown

Don't really like daemon's interactions with tip.
Seems very scumreading on TIP but not voting.
Idk rubs me the wrong way.

Add into scumpile for now.

Liked his piece on jabberwock though.

DTM IS IN THIS GAME TOO? YES
YES YES YES YES YES

How the hell are you reading TIPtown so damn clear DTM.
And don't say meta.
Because this is a no-fly zone.

Vote Jabberwock for the problems
Daykill Natirasha for the Noise
Personal Note Saki for later.

No
Yes
whatever

Natirasha's #138 was town-ish. Not crazy as daykills this early aren't town or likely but.
Its a bit.

DTMaster will you marry me

PS: I don't know if this matters, but I believe in this situation, it does behoove me to VOTE: DTMaster.

Why.
This vote makes no sense.
How does the daykill affect your read on your shooter?


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ATTN: Various games/people/mods

I have LIMITED ACCESS to el internet for the next few days, so only expect to see me on at night. This will go through the weekend, and potentially through the goddamn week depending on how shitty things get at home and/or if the world will let me return to Spokanistan before the 9th. I would rather not discuss why these things are happening so let's just call it MEDICAL ISSUES and leave it at that. If you need me, you know how to reach me.

That is all.

-Andy

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TOWN
jabberwock
purpkin
ffcabdy
saki
dtm <--- pending questions too

???
OIL TYCOONS
PROHAWKE
SAKURA HANA

SCUM
tip
natirasha <--- moving towards feeling better

[Andrius]

That was probably hammer or something if the dayvig doesn't stop day/is fake. Look into Purpkin, I know Town Mara would never say that, especially in only three lines to get me lynched easily and quickly. My Town flip will confirm Mara scum, good luck and have fun.

I'll go check but I don't think you're dead.

PEdit: HI ANDY YOUR HOBBITS ARE ALL DEAD AND YOUR DICE MATH STILL SUCKS

why no love tierce
why no love
i just want to share my love with you
;_;

If I'm actually dead, then my alignment will flip soon anyway and the vote will not matter. It has some elements to OMGUS to it, as well. If I don't die, I have no idea what motivation someone would have for bluffing a dayvig. At best, it's a null-tell this early. I don't want to send TIP to a quicklynch, even if I think he's scum, because he seems like the type who will fuck over his partners if given the right impetus, so my vote is in limboland right now.

This doesn't read like the earlier one.

Andrius is scum too (hammer without a claim is a policy lynch, no exceptions)

no uh
i do feel bad for that
but i didnt think there'd be that many votes
and/or rushing atm
sorry man

DON'T YOU LIKE ME ANDRIUS?

yo i assumed that we weren't on speaking terms b/c lolthread and your bf sending me hatemail
my b

are we good?

also, Andy I exist ._.

MARA?

[Andrius]

well um
vi doesn't require unvotes
so that's shitty for you tip

[Andrius]

I SAID IM SORRY TIP
I NEVER MEANT TO HURT YOU (that much, that fast)
I NEVER MEANT TO MAKE YOU CRY
BUT TONIGHT
IM CLEANING OUT MY CLOSET

[Andrius]

so i might be listening to Eminem

[Andrius]

that's a good point re: vi-games

[Andrius]

Andrius, I don't speak for Grey. We are separate people with separate opinions.

I find that you're often mean to me in both playing League and in the thread, but League is a toxic game anyway and makes people do dumb shit. Look at DRK.

So yeah, we're cool.

Fair enough.

This is why I don't post (ever) or play (nearly as much).

[Andrius]

Andrius, I don't speak for Grey. We are separate people with separate opinions.

I find that you're often mean to me in both playing League and in the thread, but League is a toxic game anyway and makes people do dumb shit. Look at DRK.

So yeah, we're cool.

Ok this wasn't clear enough and I'm tired. I think you're a cool guy, and I like you, except when it comes to League? IDK if that's even a possible thing to say, but that's what I thinks. @_@

This is pretty much what Zito thinks, or so I've heard.

[Andrius]

*sic*
this does not belong here

anywho
back to the game
um
yeah
nothing new to say
any questions for me before i have to go?

[Andrius]

I want you to read me Andrius.

I'm a cat in a rage, and I need to knowwwwwww

We can have a nice teatime tomorrow.
I really must be going now. Got an interview in... 7 hours.

[Andrius]

NACHO IS HERE <333

[Andrius]

(P.S.: I haven't taken a shot at the VN yet, but I wasn't a fan of the Umineko anime personally.)

(The VN is so much better. Give it a shot some time.)

I liked the anime up until... Cycle three? when the magick becomes crazy? Like I enjoyed the premise and the whole A LIE EVERYONE BELIEVES BECOMES THE TRUTH and the bit of mindfuckery at the end but by the time the anime got to its last cycle I was like "just kill everyone they don't matter to me anymore".

Saki don't impress me none.

Stop focusing on the baddies and focus on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

no man the play is clearly ignore the girl who's into you
then you surprise her later with a nice box with a bow

Stop focusing on the baddies and focus on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

no, the spotlight is mine and mine only

girls girls please youre all pretty

Man, it's been like a whole minute since that arrival. I'm somewhat disappointed none of you have reacted to my blazing glory.

where's nacho?

People I like:
Andrius - anybody hammering TIP gets megapoints.

So uh. I take it this is the "leaning town" category? Just so we're all clear.

That's be'er

oh my god
come to me bby

Tierce.

The numbers are back.

Let's continue ignoring them because that CLEARLY WORKED LAST TIME.
No but seriously I'm not sure if there's anything we CAN do besides work fast?

The Dark Angel... She's found me at last... At least I can sleep now...

THIS is the best post in the game.

I am not sure what to do with that info.

I am starting here:
VOTE: Saki

awesome place to start eh.
VOTE: Saki

The hell is this.

Vote: Saki

What the heck was with that rushed day? I didnt even get to post

OK SERIOUSLY.
WE KNOW IT WAS RUSHED.
THE QUESTION IS.
DO YOU THINK I AM SCUM FOR THAT HAMMER OR NOT?
Because there's a good number of people going 'oh herp derp that was a fast day' and just kinda leaving that there.

I also feel The Oil Guys' twilight posting to be disingenuous, I wouldn't mind starting there today either, but that could just be my lack of experience with them.

idk it felt genuine but not necessarily town?
Like it was genuine posting but didn't really get a read off it.

Vote Saki

. Because I have reasons and they support Saki-scum. I.e. I did shenanigans last night and Saki is top suspect unless otherwise stated.

k yeah my vote is staying
CHOO CHOO

Nat/DTM looks scum/town to me.
I mean the setup spec definitely looks genuine but that's not a towntell or anything. I know people will/do disagree but eh.

I.e. I did shenanigans last night and Saki is top suspect unless otherwise stated.

Huh?
Why feel the need to keep it secret?

...think about it

~Vote Count IV: Ayra

Does anyone else hate the ENGRISH verisons of the FE4/5 names or is it just me?

Seriously.
Someone explain how SAki can be town.

Hey fferyllt we're still waiting on you contributing stuff proactively instead of asking for things.

ffery pls

We are Marth. Our first ability is "I say when it ends!" which means that if we would be nightkilled, we will instead die at the end of the next day. We got a message this morning saying we will die at the end of today. We were nightkilled during the night.

nacho no
nacho im sorry
i didn't share my world with you
and now its too late
;_;

@Saki
No hidden agendas. Thought I was clear. I have a role interaction that implicates you because there was no NK. That should be easy. There are other explanations that can explain these conditions which would suggest other things - but I doubt they would claim.

Thought this was elementary school bus level logic. My disapproved Edgeworth face should be here.

No roleclaim. Faking a guilty. Why?
Because scum that's why.

And also there

was

a nightkill, just delayed. What impact does that have on your investigation? Is it still pointing guilty at me?

This is literally all you're contributing?
DTM has like, 0 scumtivation to fake something like this on you so stop and
GIVE READS
VOTE
CONTRIBUTE

No hidden agendas.

You hid your entire damn role from me and fake a guilty and you say there's no hidden agenda?

HOW ARE YOU INSTANTLY ASSUMING HE FAKED A GUILTY
THERE ARE AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN THINGS HE COULD DO TO GET GOODINFO ON YOU THAT ARENT COP RESULTS

Even if he is wrong about the guilty I still think he's scum.

...?

Why the hell would town claim

partially

?

seriously stop
i partial claimed like three times in one game
depends on what is needed etc


Yo Daemon. Quick list of reads etc would be great.

I'm assuming that BluntTierce is a thing so that'd make Jabberwock/Nacho town/town as long as Nacho dies. If he doesn't die then obv something's up.

I'll totally trust the Nachometa on Cabd/ffery since all I see is Cabd posts and little to no ffery posts which makes me worry.

I don't see town motivation behind a partial claim.
Even if he is wrong about the guilty I still think he's scum.

This bothers me a lot. It's the phrasing. "Even if he's wrong"--wouldn't Saki-Town KNOW that DTMaster is wrong?


Tierce won't be the one helping you with LLD, ffery.

Another good point.
Do you want to lynch Saki with me or do you want to lynch Saki with me?

Except it looks like I need to read a book-worth of posts everytime I check this thread.

I don't think Oil is lying about being poisoned, specially since as he said, it can be confirmed easily on the next day phase.
Saki has done zero scumhunting, but that's normal town saki.
I've only played with scum Tierce, and she did more walls of text. Also I remember someone commenting something about puppies, guess Jabberwock is town.
So here's my vote for now:
VOTE: DTM
Hope this time whenever I check this thread again when i get back to work there arent a million unread words.

1) why would he lie about that, as scum
2) how is doing nothing useful remotely town?
3) do you have any more reads?

This was actually pretty hilarious

I try sometimes.

I don't think Andy hammered on purpose, despite his alignment.

Wait what are you implying here?

Oh. Oil's claim makes my result moot then. Saki if it's not obvious I

role blocked you last night

so stop fucking around and lets kill scums now.

Unvote

Will reread after since I only have time to skim at the moment.

Still think Saki needs rope regardless of DTM interactions.

Yo I'm not doing extensive metareading so I'll read your wall on LLD, Empire, but I won't dive as Cabd likes to put it.

His hammer and subsequent reaction to it seem way too easy for a player of his competence to fake.

I can't help but laugh at my percieved competence.
Sorry to break it to you, Tierce, but I'm actually an idiot.

IIRC, Andrius scum is very weak. He doesn't like being it and it often shows.

You're supposed to talk up my good points!

TOWN
purpkin
jabberwock <--- i worry about something but im not going to dwell on it for now
ffcabdy <--- worried bout ffery but I'll trust nacho's metareading
DTM <--- for srs, this guy townytown
prohawk <--- from what ive seen i like the slot
sakurahana <--- pending questions

DEAD AND GONE
oil tycoons <--- ;_;

SCUM
saki
natirasha <--- going to reread and see what's there because i said i would
daemon <--- D1 stuff read scummy to me, hasn't been much D2

Oh and LLD.
I'm ready for tea when you are. Unless you want to make it superspecial and then we can go on a dinnerdate and stargazing, in which case you'll have to wait a bit.


p.s. Nacho, on a sliding scale of WEARING ORANGE ON ST. PATTY'S DAY to GODTOWN where do you sit with Jabberwock. Because I'm a bit worried and I see you are so maybe we can talk a bit and work this out.

[Andrius]

1) But why would he lie about being poisoned if it will be OBVIOUS that he won't die at the end of today? How does scum benefit from fakeclaiming a poison this early, under no suspicion, when their lie would get outed so easily (by the mod)?
2) Ok, but I just don't see that as being town AT ALL. Like how does that actually HELP anything. Oh, so how strong is your meta on him anyway? How many games have you been in with him?
3) Not supersatisfied because you should be having more reads than that. Like, srs.

Anywho.

Ok teatime.

What do you think of

my dress

Natirasha's reaction to the DTM fakekill?
What are your for srs thoughts on Jabberwock and the purpkin slot?
Do you have any meta with ffery/Cabd?

On a scale of ANDY NOOOOOOO ;_____; to MEH how sad are you that you don't appear on my reads list?
How does me not publically revealing a read on you affect your read on me?

What do you think of SakuraHana's overabundance of nullreads?


Finally
On a scale of BETTER THAN PULSEFIRE EZ to WORSE THAN RECOLORS how awesome would a Annie skin be where you played as Tibbers and summoned Annie with your ult? He'd still have the same abilities as she would but it'd be him obv.

NACHO PLS

[Andrius]

Woooooooow.
I can't read.
Ignore #1 then for some reason I read it as "I think he lied". My b.

3) Yo I'm willing to work with reads and I know we were stiffed of a long drawn out D1 with lots of time but idk expected more reads. Ill give you more time sure np np.

[Andrius]

I'll be in tomorrow, got a ton of reading up to do for something else. >_>

[Andrius]

DEAR LLD,

You make me sad. We were going to have a nice tea time chat and then you didn't show up. ;_;

</3,

-Andy

[Andrius]

Empire

(Psst, it was me, Empire, not Tierce. Every single post on this last page has been me.)

Ok. Changes nothing of what I just said but w/e.

Natirasha: Up until the fake dayvig, I wasn't a big fan of his ISO because it included a lot of setup/mechanics spec and very little in the way of actual reads or proactive scumhunting.

This makes sense.

However, I actually really liked his reaction to the dayvig

I just don't see it, as you know.

As for #350, I just don't get any TOWNVIBES from it save the last part. Nothing to reverse my read.

Agree that DTM is town.

Andrius - Derphammer. Under observation. Maybe not giving his scum game enough credit

hahahahahaha

LLD - Cabd is bothered a little, not sure why. ffery is mostly convinced by Empire meta report. Meta dive to come.

Convinced of..?

Need to look at prohawk because that's two posters in a row that think he's leaning scum and I just haven't gotten GREATVIBES one way or another.

What do you think about my vote Andrius? I noticed you quoted my post about The Cat but failed to comment on it.

Don't remember off the top of my head. I'll come back to this.

Andy, you have anything worth adding to the game? I think you are likely town, care to elaborate a liiiiiittle bit more on your reads?

...I am adding things to the game, besides hammers.
What reads do you want sorted out and I'll do it.
But don't expect me to PARAGRAPHS for EVERYONE because that's just not my style unless we get srs bsns.

I'm here, now I need to read the game; see you tomorrow.

Its been a loooooong time, DDD.

Don't exactly like Daemon's recent sting of posting about LETS NOT SPEED THIS UP as it allows him to talk bout things but not really add reads? Does that make sense?

Current scum:
Sakura Hana

Why?

I get the jist of the PROHAWK and DAEMON cases but want to hear from you on her.
Assuming it is a her.

Pretty boring answers from where I'm standing, Messieurs Tycoon.

We actually think Sakura is Town. But Post 465 was not written by someone with a Town wincon.

VOTE: Saki

This too.

Does anyone want to see the Saki case because I'll fucking write a nice concise (read: less than a paragraph) on it.

Hmm. Could DTM be a scum roleblocker?

If that's true then the whole more reason you're scumbuddy with him due to him wanting to clear you as town.
^
Also replies DTM's question.

As for Lady, not any specific content, more like because of her ammount of content, i'd think scum would be more lazy, like the person above me

This was a beautiful exchange.
DTM still town.
Saki still scum.

You don't trust my meta on them?

Oh.
Uh.
That wasn't for you.
That was for LLD.
Ofc I trust you I just wish you'd talk to me more but I know there are other pretty girls out there so I'll just sit here and be here when you're ready to talk to me.

Saki

1) Andrius
town, he lynched tip

That's all?
It took seven people to lynch him and all I did was accidentially drop the hammer.

2) Daemon385
null, been a while since he posted

False it has not.
Try again.

3) DTMaster
town until proven scum

You just said he was scum a page or so ago.
Why the reversal?

so you say andrius and I are town (heck you everyone as town except daemon who's null), and we're scum team? that makes perfect sense /sarcasm.

I'm happy with my vote on you

This. lol

why not say 'omg saki your readslist is bs, you call everyone town and shout out three random players for scumteam'
but say 'you said we were town but you also said we were scum'?

VOTE: Sakura Hana
i want andrius's feedback on this

on what
you calling people town
and then calling them scum
?

yeah that's bad dude sorry
try again
make a new wall with the people you think are scum labeled SCUM and not TOWN
clarity is town

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So yeah, I have basically no interest in a Saki lynch. On the other hand I have lots of interest in this.

DO YOU THINK I AM SCUM FOR THAT HAMMER OR NOT?

Yes.

VOTE: Andrius

Let me guess:
Scum_Andy drops the hammer D1 to just get things going and expecting his smooth-talking abilities to work his way out of the fire D2?

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TOWN
purpkin
jabberwock
ffcabdy
DTM
prohawk
...
sakura hana

DEAD AND GONE
oil tycoons

SCUM
saki
natirasha
daemon


p.s.
Dear ProHawk. I looked in my ISO for some mention of this vote thing you talked about but I found three instances of your name and they weren't in regards to a vote so if you could clarify that'd be great.

p.p.s. Been feeling better about Sakura but the lack of reads STILL bothers me.

[Andrius]

Things I want to see:

REVISED List of reads from Saki
List of reads from Daemon
updated list of reads from Sakura

RESPONSE TO TEA TIME WITH LLD
PLS WOMAN
YOU WANTED THIS FROM ME AND NOW THAT IM HERE YOURE LIKE TEEHEE NO

[Andrius]

also stahp with the FE13 pictures there ARE other games in the series that are amazing too!

[Andrius]

ddd go to the scum qt please i need to complain about how much pressure you're putting on me

[Andrius]

Do I think a player who has some modicum of skill and a perchance for subtle plays and clearly knew that TIP was heavily voted "accidentally" hammered?

Hey DDD.
When was the last time we were in a game together?
I got my title for breadcrumbing, not for being subtle or making SUBTLE PLAYS.
Seriously, SOMEONE show me where I make SUBTLE PLAYS in a game.
DDD you can even pick!
LLD, Nacho, Cabd, ffery are all people that have seen me in at least one recent game.
So ask them.
Ask them how subtle I am.
Ask Cabd and ffery if I broadcasted all of my night actions in Xenoblade the day before I acted.
Ask LLD if I was obvscum in BDM. Ask LLD where my balls were in STRATEGY MAFIA.
Ask Nacho for the subtle plays in LoLMafia.

So maybe you may say that me not claiming my damage reduction passive and details of that in LoL Mafia was subtle.
It wasn't. Given it was pretty obvious and I crumbed it early.

So yeah. You can keep insisting that some player who is clearly fucking brilliant and makes AWESOME SUBTLE PLAYS with a horrible win:loss ratio decided to actually count the votes (which is vi's job) and was like "OH AN OPPORTUNITY TO QUICKHAMMER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL LETS DO IT" and take a page from someone else's book.

Or you can maybe believe that, since there were no votecounts, I just went on my merry way and voted the player I thought was most scummy with no intention of hammering.

Your call DDD.

he's a relatively persuasive player

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
no
seriously ddd
i appreciate the love but
you give my scumgame (and my game overall) way too much credit
I don't have balls as scum.
Period.
LLD knows, she's seen me as scum twice in somewhat-recent history.
That is, if she'll actually answer your calls.

how I would react if I had committed that mistake.

Dude, you're DDD.
I don't see you being all
"SHIT GUYS IM SORRY

UNVOTE UNVOTE UNVOTE UNVOTE

I AM SO SO SO SO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY GUYS
ESPECIALLY TIP PLEASE DONT HATE ME IT WAS AN ACCIDENT BBY PLS COME BACK BBY IT ISNT YOU ITS ME ;____________________________________________________________________________;"

Seriously man? I wasn't sad enough?
I voted him because I thought he was scum and wanted him dead.
He just died as soon as I poked him with a stick.

if andrius's title was gained from the fact that he is good at being subtle, it shows that he has high self-awareness, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he has high game-state awareness.

you guys are looking at this wrong.
Crumbing doesn't take subtlety- since they're SUPPOSED TO BE FOUND.

1) Except there's no reason he shouldn't have been aware of the game state given that this entire thing comes in one big catch-up post with quotes running from beginning up to that point.

I don't count votes as I read.
There are votecounts for that.
If there was one at the time I would have seen it but since Vi didn't post any votecounts that stated TIP was anywhere near the DONTTOUCHHIMORHEDIES level.

LLD FOR FUCKS SAKE
ARE YOU GOING TO GO OUT WITH ME FOR TEA OR ARENT YOU

I'm taking a look at Andrius' recent games right now and jesus fucking christ this guy posted over 500 times in a game and they're all long stream-of-consciousness walls. I'll have something there in a few hours.

Let me guess:
ANDY ISNT POSTING NEARLY AS MUCH AS HE DID WHEN HE WAS

IN SCHOOL

IN THOSE GAMES SO HE MUST BE SCUM
?

[Andrius]

seriously lld pls
can we chat or not

[Andrius]

must have missed that

[Andrius]

Things I want to see:

REVISED List of reads from Saki
List of reads from Daemon
updated list of reads from Sakura

RESPONSE TO TEA TIME WITH LLD
PLS WOMAN
YOU WANTED THIS FROM ME AND NOW THAT IM HERE YOURE LIKE TEEHEE NO

I'VE BEEN BUSY M8.

I WILL NEED TO DO THIS ON SUNDAY, I HAVE AN EXAM TO TAKE TOMORROW.

oh this
yeah no idea how i missed this
derp

[Andrius]

Anywho.

Ok teatime.

What do you think of

my dress

Natirasha's reaction to the DTM fakekill?
What are your for srs thoughts on Jabberwock and the purpkin slot?
Do you have any meta with ffery/Cabd?

On a scale of ANDY NOOOOOOO ;_____; to MEH how sad are you that you don't appear on my reads list?
How does me not publically revealing a read on you affect your read on me?

What do you think of SakuraHana's overabundance of nullreads?


Finally
On a scale of BETTER THAN PULSEFIRE EZ to WORSE THAN RECOLORS how awesome would a Annie skin be where you played as Tibbers and summoned Annie with your ult? He'd still have the same abilities as she would but it'd be him obv.

[Andrius]

Curious to see how Sakura's semi-scumread of Saki panned out from an initial townread built on his meta of doing nothing as town.
Because I don't see how something like that would reverse if she's come to expect this from Saki's play. Anywho.

Dearest Andrius,

You don't have to write your posts in ye olde English but if you insist on writing like you've been instructed to type at the Prosimian School for WORDS AND STUFF I will be forced to ignore you and assume the position I've taken about your scumness is correct. Perhaps that is your desire but if it is not, you know how to get in touch with me.

Sincerely.
Debonair Daniel DiPietro

I had to look up 'Prosimian'.
I'll put more thought into my words so you can read them and we can have a positively lovely discourse over tea and crumpets.

Purpkin, I agree that Sakura's read on Saki is pretty bogus, but I am concerned about The Cat Hydra.

Do you read them as town? If you do could you help me understand why?

Bogus as in, the meta is bad or bogus as in the read changing as it did is bad?
Because I'm leaning more the latter.

Ugh, it's 3:30 AM here and I'm about to fall asleep. I was only able to get through his two recently completed town games.

I guess this is just for morph the cat since they're the only ones who seem to care about this stuff -- the games I'm looking at are: Xenoblade Mafia, League of Legends Mafia, Strategy Mafia, and Stars Aligned III (note: his two completed scum games are very old so proceed with caution here).

SAIII is very, very old and I wouldn't use it as a sample here, fwiw.
League and Xenoblade are recent examples. I'm pretty sure that Strategy Mafia is my most recent scumgame.

Hi guys, are we any closer to lynching Sakura yet.

Seriously does anyone get the 'TOWN BUT NOT HELPING VIBE'?
Because it doesn't exist.
There's an epidemic of bad players who think posting with no content and fucking parading around in an assembly of idiocy is ok and its not. At all.

Ugh, it's 3:30 AM here and I'm about to fall asleep. I was only able to get through his two recently completed town games.

I guess this is just for morph the cat since they're the only ones who seem to care about this stuff -- the games I'm looking at are: Xenoblade Mafia, League of Legends Mafia, Strategy Mafia, and Stars Aligned III (note: his two completed scum games are very old so proceed with caution here).

Tomorrow's my mom's birthday so I won't be able to post much if at all. Tierce should be back from having a life today so you'll be hearing more from her, and afterwards, my activity should be back at normal levels until the weekend.

We both played with him in Xenoblade. I'll review that one quickly and go through the others tonight if I have time. Otherwise tomorrow sometime. Should be ready to compare notes tomorrow night.

...Why would you have to reread it if you were in the game with me? D:

Andrius why does it feel that even without reading the game I can tell that your behavior is static

Because we can't all be dynamic characters/ the main character?

there is no evolution or progression in your reads?

There is. I'm not sure what you're exactly expecting here but things are happening.

[I will slaughter all your hobbits again if that's what it takes for you to shape up--and if you're scum, I will slaughter them anyway as a matter of principle.

Can't slaughter what's already dead.

Not Voting: Daemon385, morph the cat, DTMaster

guys stahp
guys pls

They are both kinda easy to lynch, which concerns me a little.

The fact they're both still here says otherwise?

It doesn't in a way I'm willing to reveal to you~

I don't get it.

I'm ready to talk. When and about what?

Oh, you've answered everything I asked of you (iirc) so you've done what I wanted I just was expecting a bit more love I guess. whatever ill settle with lld?



Jabberwock-

he did buddy his friends but it felt like he was overall much more serious with them and in one instance he was willing to chide his friends for being lazy/playing poorly

Clearly you didn't read the whole game if you only saw me chiding people

once

. That game was a shitshow and I'm pretty sure it happened way more often than that one time you linked.

part of the reason he's pinged my radar here is the feeling that he's buddying his friends to an exaggerated degree

I don't feel like anything's different here? Besides the whole FISRT GAME WITH TIERCE.
I mean if you want to talk buddying look at my games again.
I spent all of D1 trying to convince people Panzer (who was then a bro) was town by using ridiculous tells and meta from the actual LoL game.
I buddied Nacho and orc early in Xenoblade in order to slink into the shadows better by lining them up as townierthanthou so I could do things in the background.

I'm not sure why you think this game is more buddy-heavy than others especially since I know waaay less people here but ok. Moving on.

In LoL, he spends a decent portion of the early game suspecting IPie for being useless but ends up reversing his position later on down the road.

Well yes. But again, this game didn't really have a D1, and I had one set of reads.
In that game it took me three gamedays drawn up to deadline most every time (so we're talking MONTHS, not coupleday D1 and a week-long D2) to actually pull a useful read from pie's slot, among others.

So Saki's leaning town, I dont think he would have tried to save me with a perfect oportunity to pin that overreaction to me and get me lynched.
UNVOTE: Saki
Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/
@Nacho/Syry: What do you think of Morph?

No why stop your train of thought confuses me.

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/

Unvote, Vote: Sakura

Not changing reads throughout a 2week long game is one thing.
Not having more than one scumread, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter.
I love this tell.

We are neighbors with MTC. Have been since about the beginning of the game when they initiated it. Our interaction in the QT is making me think they are town.

Can you help us to understand WHY?

I like daemon for town.

Why?

[Andrius]

fuck
I had something else to say but I don't remember what it is
shit

[Andrius]

OH

Jabberwock- you mentioned how you don't like how my reads don't change

What'd you think of my read/vote combo on 2 for the duration of D1 in Xenoblade Mafia?

[Andrius]

In the town games he used insults to sort of prod people into moving toward more pro-town behaviors. In his scum games it looked more like insults were meant to just piss someone off.

This is surprisingly deep and accurate.

[Andrius]

gets crap for not changing reads
changes vote
gets crap for changing reads

man this is a fun game
so let me guess- I unvote and go back to saki
and you give me crap for not changing my reads
or would you give me crap for changing my read again


as interesting as ROLERELATEDREASONS sound im not buying what you're selling
anywho

fatalism/deathwish/frustration

this seems like a bit of a stretch for: "im out of scumreads :/"

This game isn't particularly easy and she doesn't have the benefit of having a hydra partner helping her out.

oh ok sorry guys
no more voting solo players they're too weak on their own

Sakura Hana (3) ~ (Oil Tycoons,) Saki, Purpkin, Andrius
Saki (2) ~ (Andrius,) Jabberwock, (Sakura Hana,) Lady Lambdadelta
ProHawk (2) ~ Oil Tycoons, morph the cat
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk
Andrius (1) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro

saki, purpkin, nacho, morph, lld, ddd
everyone unvote please you're voting a solo player and they clearly need help with the game so we have to go easy on them
the only acceptable votes are now
JABBERWOCKY and MORPH THE CAT

Unvote

let's get some discussion down before we do this shall we?

yeah
so out of these two who would everyone want to lynch?
I mean I have some doubts related to jabberwocky but nacho trusts them so that counterbalances the lovely chat we had together so that means morph

shall we discuss before I vote again or is this moving too fast for you? id hate to confuse you by changing my reads again but this deadline isn't getting any shorter!

[Andrius]

shit sorry
ddd don't read that
ill translate it for you gimme a second

[Andrius]

Tierce is giving me a hard time for not changing my reads, so when I do actually change my reads/vote I get a hard time for doing what she wanted me to do to begin with!

Man, this is a fun game chaps! Let me guess what happens next- I unvote and revote Saki, and Tierce gives me a hard time for not changing my reads again; or perhaps she will give me a hard time for changing my mind again. What a travesty!

As interesting as role-related reasons I don't quite follow your mysterious claim and therefore shall not partake in the purchase of said Girl Scout Cookies.

-----------------

Moving right along we come to Tierce's read on Sakura Hana.

fatalism/deathwish/frustration

Tierce overstates Sakura Hana's reaction to 'running out of scumreads' and this doth not please me.

This game isn't particularly easy and she doesn't have the benefit of having a hydra partner helping her out.

I do apologize, and from here on out we should strive not to vote players who are not in a hydra because they do not have the added benefit of another head.

Sakura Hana (3) ~ (Oil Tycoons,) Saki, Purpkin, Andrius
Saki (2) ~ (Andrius,) Jabberwock, (Sakura Hana,) Lady Lambdadelta
ProHawk (2) ~ Oil Tycoons, morph the cat
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk
Andrius (1) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro

I implore the good sirs Saki, Nacho, and DDD; the fine lady LLD and the beings of multiple heads purpkin and morph to all unvote the solo players as they are having a hard enough time comprehending the game on their own.

The only acceptable votes are now for [Jabberwocky, morph the cat, and purpkin]
(I do apologize for forgetting purpkin the first time I posted this.

Unvote

Let us now have a civilized discussion before we go ahead with the voting and lynching.

Yes!
So out out the hydrae, which hydra would everyone want to lynch?

I have doubts as to whether Jabberwocky is town-aligned or not but nachomamma is a reputable member of the town and foremost a 'bro' and as such his read is good and helps to counterbalance the lovely chat we had together. This naturally leaves morph and purpkin.

Shall we discuss before I vote again or is the pace of this game moving too fast for you? I'd hate to confuse you by changing my reads again but this deadline is not getting any shorter!

[Andrius]

And yes I completely forgot about purpkin the first time around.

[Andrius]

dearest Tierce,

how on earth is daemon town for not voting?

p.s. DDD shall not be lynched today simply by merit of being DDD.

[Andrius]

I was being facetious, Tierce.
I admit the vote was bad. I love my tell and saw it and ran with it. Didn't really stop to be like NOW WHY ARE THE READS NOT THERE.

I KNOW you're not townreading him for not voting you're townreading him DESPITE the not voting.

[Andrius]

I have doubts as to whether Jabberwocky is town-aligned or not but nachomamma is a reputable member of the town and foremost a 'bro' and as such his read is good

This

. Look at you being scum all over his thread, Andy love~

Tierce. When I'm in a QT with people I expect love and harmony and

QT not self-destructing that Saturday

a happyfest.
I was worried because I thought you were holding back because you were hiding something aka scum or whathaveyou.

Apparently it was because you didn't trust me from the get-to.
Makes sense.
Still not superhappy about it but w/e.

[Andrius]

If I were scum I'd simply not have bothered replying to you when you voted me because I don't have balls as scum and any response I give won't sate your lust for hobbitblood so I'd simply be wasting my time.

[Andrius]

making dinner at the moment

1) PM sent to Vi at ~10:37pm day of the lynch. Hammerpost made at 10:53pm day of the lynch. Going into the day I knew I wanted one of you/Nacho because a) first game with you and b) NACHOLOVE. I picked you

in conjunction with

my first post. Started reading, sent in action, posted. Simple.
2) Like I said it was either you or Nacho. I sent in my action as a tentative action (subject to change before deadline). Couldn't have changed it if I wanted to b/c accidentalhammer.
3) You're assuming we are, in fact, duplicate roles. Oh and youre assumption that an alignment can only have one instance of a role is dumb. This is coming from a guy who got fucked by that line of thinking.
5) You are correct in inferring day-activation.

[Andrius]

so uh
is bathroom water safe to cook with
we have, uh, issues with the sink and cannot use sinkwater so im just going to assume that bathroom water is also safe

[Andrius]

Wait what, Andrius can neighborize smeone for 1 night?

Yes, I can.

[Andrius]

No idea how theirs works, I only know how mine works.
Aaaaand shit the floor is leaking again.

[Andrius]

Its not the exact same- yours is restricted, mine isn't.
And purpkin/cat is probably also different.

[Andrius]

I fucking love neighborhoods so this game is damn awesome just by merit of there being more than 2 of us.
Even if restrictions etc.

[Andrius]

I'm not from FE13, for what that's worth.
Though that game does look damn awesome.

[Andrius]

...holy fuck.
Its like he's an entirely different player.
BACK TO SAKI. ****************

Yo disregarding meta he's still been nothing of a town presence this game and merits death BEFORE the METASWAMP.




************************* is where I had written my vote in but ill count the votes real quick.

[Andrius]

I should be #4.

Vote: Saki

[Andrius]

L-2 is fine, no one else vote before the others have had their chance to chime in.

Don't worry I'm already voting. >___________>

[Andrius]

as you may or may not know i am at edmeet and thus, am drunk again
tomorrow night i wont be since im picking up mina from the airport but no promises b/c meet and all but ill try

[Andrius]

I am here, and will get to this right after I finish my catchup in another game.

[Andrius]

I'm taking a break from reading since Xenogears was a lot but I'll be here round dinner.

[Andrius]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Saki

I'm Anna. Both my abilities say something along the lines of "this might do something or it might not."

Let's end the day.


I'm not following too closely but whoever is rolefishing is doing it well.
And Mafia Neighborizer seems highly likely.

How is any of this post town?

I think Sakura is more likely of the two (btwn Saki and Sakura) to be scum.

How the hell is this a thing.

Grrr
I'll summarize my thought process.

The effects of my abilities might be revealed to me later on in the game.
There are several strong town players in the game.
I need to survive longer to gain abilities.

Therefore playing VI and hiding behind said players looked like a good idea, it stops nightkills on me, too. Apparently you guys want to lynch me.

I guess that play was extremely selfish and anti-town, y'all have my blessing to string me up.

This is town. I am confirming this player as town. I confirm this exists in the game.

I don't even.
I actually don't even.

Empire's off to dreamland and I have a budding migraine. LLD--please check Saki's games. We'll get back to this tomorrow.

Something tells me you won't be budging LLD.
This

is

LLD we're talking about.

So you don't believe Saki could have gotten baited in by a "this power is hidden to you until X players are alive" thing?

Because I see Town Saki very much playing in an anti-town way to try and live for that power. Especially if, say, the ability told him that it was worth being alive for?

That's giving him waaay too much credit.

Saki, do you think Oil Tycoons is faking the fact they got shot and is going to die today?

The fuck is this.

Well its not like SH read him as scum before.

I'm starting to smell a chainsaw here... and by that i mean my town read on LLD is dropping...

No uh that puts words to what I was thinking.
Not sure they're scum together but there's definitely connections here.

I'm a bit blindsided by the SUDDEN LLD INFLUX and am currently processing things.

God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

I am calling in all favors. Anyone who refuses to lynch this cheeky scum fuck with me is dead to me.

Nacho, Andrius I'm looking at you. I am invoking the blood pact, mother fuckers.

Did not know we had a blood pact.

do we?

Yeah I definitely agree with the Jabberwock line of thought of SAKISCUM over SAKURASCUM.

Last time Andy was recruiting masonizer and didn't recruit me until N3.

<3 that was a fun game

This is not how town reacts. This is how scum reacts if they see a role that counterclaims their confirmable one.

Suddenly I begin to see why Sakura was lynched.

Oh and that's L-2 on Sakura.

Just so Andrius knows.

ha
ha
ha

Do not like the LLD/Wock catfight going down.

JABBERWOCK! PURPKIN! ANDRIUS! JOIN TOGETHER WITH OUR EARTHLY REPRESENTATIVE TO PURGE THE FOULNESS THAT IS PROHAWK, DAEMON385 AND ONE OF LLD OR DTMASTER!

YOU HAVE MY SWORD
AND MY BOW
AND MY AXE
TAKE ALL MY WEAPONS

ITV PROHAWK FOR GREAT JUSTICE

morph actually posting nachostuff is townpoints
the counter to that being TOWNCRED FOR SCUM but that's alot of work since nacho is great etc
definitely thinking moretown
if i werent voting prohawk id probably be voting saki for the same reasons as D2

Now that he's claimed, he's done exactly 0 scumhunting in this game still despite the fact that he has nothing to hide at this point.

Dude.
I CLEARLY agree with sakiscum.
But he hasn't exactly had TIME to do scumhunting since the premature ending of D2.

*headdesk*

Unfuckingbelievable. I'll just let Tierce deal with this guy, I'm done for now.

Yay AtE

VOTE: Jabberwock

tiermpire
I will totally lynch the fuck out of this guy with you
just say the word

UNVOTE:

fuck just let me lurk and lynch me as you see fit

how the fuck is this townplay
how the fuck is this scumplay
what the fuck is going on

But let's be honest, you don't actually care because you are scum and are hoping the dead townie can do all of the work for you, which happens to be why you are quoting your QT here.

In his defense, I was "BLESSED" with the ability to talk for hitosottyrulez in another vi game that Nacho knows very well and pretty much all I did was literally CopyPaste their responses into the thread.
So he's doing a better job than I ever did.

I want to kill Jabberwock today, discuss.

You're going to have to do a LOT of convincing to get me to do that.
I mean PARANOIA but srs Saki is here and Saki still needs to die.

Catching up now.

Slight Mod Update: Andi and I are at Edmeeton so activities may be low due to that

.

Scum lies!

I

was at Edmeet,

YOU

didn't show up for another day.
SO YEAH
DONT USE THAT EXCUSE FOR YOUR NOT BEING HERE DTM

seriously all you had to say was "busy at work" and I could have confirmed that because you obv didn't show up Wednesday when this post was written
but don't be like OH BUSY AT EDMEET when you weren't there for another day

It's pretty obvious that we aren't voting you because you are at L-2 and Andrius isn't voting and we're not yet ready to end the Day

this again?

Other head just told me he wants content from Andrius and DTMaster and I agree.

No yeah uh I'm here.
DTM ON THE OTHER HAND

VI
WHY IS THERE A NAKED CHROM IN THIS GAME
WHY
WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

~Saki's vote on DTM is super fucking late, scumvote is scumvote

NACHO
GIVE ME THE POWER I NEED
TO SLAY THE SCUMSAKI

~441 by andy is such a fucking towntell. "I'm sorry for not sharing my world with you" is him crumbing his neighborize of jabberwock instead of oil tycoons and THIS SCREAMS TOWN DONT YOU FUCKING LYNCH HIM etc.

That's exactly what it was!

TOWNIES
purpkin
morphthecat
jabberwock
lld
Prohawk
DTM
daemon
Saki
SCUMMIES

I'm getting tired of doing wallposts so I might just try a QUICK EXPLANATIONS OF READS with more Q&A and less BLINDINGLY LONG WALLS.

Q&A starts... now!


IN THE MEANTIME

DAEMON -

What do you think of the Jabberwock/LLD feud? Like, alignments and whatnot.

DTM -

HI. What do you think of the Saki ---> Sakura wagon yesterday? Who are your top two suspects? What do you think of morph's mouthpiece role for nachofolk? Do you think he's town or scum? WOULD YOU JOIN ME FOR GREAT JUSTICE ON SAKI?

Jabberwock -

SAKI WAGON FOR GREAT JUSTICE?


Going to do some legwork later but I have a skypedate in a bit.

[Andrius]

I'll go ask my keg of Orangutan.
It might have the answers.

[Andrius]

will you share

Wrong thread.

[Andrius]

The PICK UP ANDY'S BEER thread is located elsewhere.

[Andrius]

So uh.
What do you think of the Prohawk wagon?

[Andrius]

@LLD: DDD entered the game D2 for the record.
Also DDD was town. CES replaced DTM who was town pretty much only for that premature RB claim. And he made me question him because of the EDMEET deal. So yeah the CES slotdeath was way more iffy than DDD from my perspective.

3) Machoize [seriously, we can make someone immune to protection]. We did not use this - I don't see an obvious pro-town application of this

I mean, I'd treat it like a vig shot- not in the sense that you expect them to die BUT if they were to get shot there would be no way they WOULDN'T DIE.
Make sense?
On a scale of SUICIDAL TOWNIE to BULLETPROOF MASON COPVIG that's definitely on the more useless side.
Though I imagine postgame to go like this:
Purpkin: vi why vi pls
Vi: WELL I IMAGINED IT GOING SOMETHING LIKE blahblahTHISISHOWITWASDESIGNEDTOBEUSEFUL.
Creative use of roles op.

Anywho.

[Andrius]

I got back pretty late last night, my apologies.

I am Levin from Genealogy of the Holy War (FE4). (And yes I know his ENRGISH name is different but fuck that original spellings op.)

As confirmed by Jabberwock, I am a Day-Neighborizer. Send in a name during the day, we're neighborized for that night and that night only.
D1/N1 was Jabberwock.
I had a one-shot PastTrack through my MAJOR HOLSETY BLOOD that allowed me to back-track of sorts to someone I had already neighborized. I tapped it to track Jabberwock N1, and can thus confirm that they did target Saki.
D3/N3 was DTM. As you may or may not be able to guess it was a QT with very few words. :/



Cuan and Bastian were my other choices for what that's worth.

[Andrius]

I believe the ENGRISH name is Lewyn.
The name of my Neighborize is Invitation.

[Andrius]

Yes, Lewyn.
Fuck your engrish spellings Vi.

[Andrius]

Vote: Jabberwock

[Andrius]

do I need a reason to vote

[Andrius]

MY NAME IS ALVIS, NOT ARVIS.

The scum didn't realize until Night 3 (or in one person's case, a few hours into Night 4) that they could kill and take another action at the same time, because reading Role PMs just isn't in vogue right now.

Telling players that their

DAY

action counts as their

NIGHT

action before it matters is also overrated.

Andrius screwed up his fakeclaim. He got the correct localized name Lewyn, but missed Forseti. Clearly I should have been playing this game.~

As long as I was consistent in usage (old names best names) I thought I'd be fine. But since FE13 is sooooo popular I figured I'd drop it. Again, olde names op.


Seriously though, the Role PMs were awesome and I just sat there DREAMING of all the different MAJOR/MINOR HOLY BLOODS that the game might have. Alvis made being scum awesome, and my team was pretty damn cool too. Daemon did surprisingly well and I'm glad to be a part of his first scumwin. Cabd is awesome as we all know and while he and I maaaay have broken F5 keys in excitement it was awesome being buddies with them.

DDD, there really wasn't a better kill and you were the biggest threat. :/
CES, I wanted you solely out of fear. DDD was simmering down, but I was afraid of what you would do to me, especially after Strategy Mafia.

IM SORRY NACHOLOVE
WE COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL

Oh and finally: Sorry TIP. I honestly didn't see that you were at L-1 and just voted willy-nilly. ^^;