Mini 1488: Lucid Dreamers Mafia (Game Over)

[Guyett]

what were you looking for with that dream?

[Guyett]

GIF dreamt of slowing scum down yesterday. He's townie, there was no reason to lie and we haven't seen the effects of his dream. Or have we? The NK is supposedly delayed today. Guyett has come up with a nicely plausible story to cover this, gain town cred when safety does die and push a quick and bad lynch.

VOTE: guyett

What is this shit

[Guyett]

VOTE: Shane

[Guyett]

His slowing down scum dream was from 2 nights ago now, the effects of that dream surely would have happened yesterday. Also I doubt the slowing down affected killings, only the effects of scum dreams

[Guyett]

We have little under 4 hours until Safety kicks the bucket. Why is he not in here yet?

[Guyett]

If you want to make an actual educated fucking guess, look at what Marquis's similar-titled dream did. Obviously scum would not use that feature though.

who was that at?

[Guyett]

which marquis dream?

[Guyett]

I still don't understand what you are trying to say in 957 Nat?

[Guyett]

my dream was very specific that it would relate to the night kill. Gif's was not that specific :shrug:

[Guyett]

yes Safety. What do you think about quick lynching someone while you are still alive?

[Guyett]

if we have people on here we could, it's just annoying we had 48 hours to do something and people weren't around to do something

[Guyett]

I was told that he would delay the kill for 48 hours, that it would say no-one died at the start of the day and that I would be told who died and that they could vote and tell people about their dream (as if they were still alive)

[Guyett]

I dreamt I was a rogue detective. I was hired by someone close to me to follow AC around over night to build up a case on AC. depending on the outcome of my investigation I return the information to my friend and if the investigation shows AC to be guilty I reluctantly give my friend my gun to do what he needed to do.

I was told for this to make up a case and then it'd be sent to someone of my chosing. Due to the fact it was going to be made up by me it wouldn't be 100% accurate. Like I don't know for a fact that AC is scum so it's not an ideal dream.

I dreamt I got a real gun for my birthday that had real bullets. I was only able to use the gun during the daytime within the first 24 hours of the day

I wanted a vig shot here and by giving myself a time limit I thought I might get one, instead I got told my gun would only mark the start of the day... thus extending night for 24 hours. This was even more useless.

[Guyett]

fucking waste of a dream

[Guyett]

I did not know who died until D3 started. If I did know I would just have dreamed to be a doc so as to actually save him rather than just delay the inevitable.
I wrote the dream in such a way as to find out who died and to ensure he could act as normal for a short amount of time.

[Guyett]

K so conftown between Who,

Haschel, and I

.

how did you figure this out?

[Guyett]

So how does that make him Conf town? how do you know he is 100% town?

[Guyett]

That's much better

[Guyett]

MafiaSSK
09-21-2013
12:25 PM ET (US)

No communication can be trusted. Look into the posts themselves if you want to find scum.

Does this mean that SSK does not trust Nat?

Also why was safety killed instead of Nat?

Just throwing ideas out there to kick start the thread

[Guyett]

because I no not what to do
I'm lost and confused and a little bit angry that my dream is useless due to lurking fuckers

[Guyett]

Well I am voting for him aren't I

His dream could be seen as town making sure he takes out any scum NKing him or scum ensuring he can't be investigated. I'm thinking the latter

[Guyett]

Y u no vote Caled?

[Guyett]

that you are conf town.

[Guyett]

Its just a picture of a lady eating salad?
Also its in all of the Votecounts from D3

[Guyett]

Is it relevant though?

[Guyett]

well yes aparts from that. but how exactly would we find it out?

[Guyett]

could be. did you ever use that teddy bear?

[Guyett]

Caled why have you not voted yet?

[Guyett]

or you could stop delaying and vote now

[Guyett]

Good

I'm gonna move my vote over here

VOTE: AC
A mixture of a sheep vote and a sense of finishing what the plan was yesterday

[Guyett]

I'm getting the feeling that Ac and Caled might be the scum team. That vote on displaced is pretty bad imo and reeks of chainsaw defending

[Guyett]

Morgan Freeman says that ac1983fan is not a Nightmare!

Announcement

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why ac's dream outcome is scummy

Tag fixed. ~Zaicon

830 is thinking through things from a town perspective. Rest of his posts are good

[Guyett]

His dream was good last night.... Yours not so good imo.

[Guyett]

So you vote for Caled as its an easy/popular wagon?

[Guyett]

AC needs rope

[Guyett]

which players are being idiots?

[Guyett]

Someone just drop the hammer

[Guyett]

I investigated Nat last night.... well I had Maemuki investigate Nat

Last night I dreamed I was police commissioner Gordon. I had a legion of well trained honest police men at my service. I had summoned my brightest detective, Maemuki , to my house for dinner and a chat. After dinner we retired to the living room and I approached my drinks cupboard. "Scotch?" I inquired. "just a small one Commissioner" he replied. I poured both of us a measure of Laphroaig 10 year old each. I sat down opposite him and asked him what he knew on the well known citizen Natirasha. He said that he knew where the upstanding fellow lived but that he had placed a GPS device on Natirasha's car for a previous misdemeanor. I knew then what must be done and that it must be done within the eye's of the law. I sent Maemuki to investigate Natirasha's dealings, businesses and to find out if Natirasha was the upstanding citizen that he made himself out to be. Being the good detective that he was Maemuki delivered his report on Natirasha back to me promptly but also had made a note on the results for his own benefit.

[Guyett]

Also if there is 2 scum left (which makes sense in a 13 player game) this is MyLo

[Guyett]

I would like to hear Nat's dream and outcome before posting the outcome of my dream

[Guyett]

most interesting

[Guyett]

killer what was the outcome of your dream?

[Guyett]

Well Nat?

[Guyett]

ok not really sure how that dream got that outcome but whatever.
I'd like to hear others dreams now

[Guyett]

misread a previous post. What do you make of jesters dream?

[Guyett]

gonna wait for the others to reveal their dreams and outcomes before I reveal mine

[Guyett]

Just waiting for Haschel Cedricson now

[Guyett]

Ok the outcome of my dream is that Nat did not visit anyone, nor was he taking part in any outside conversation. He is effectively conf townie in my eyes.

My other 2 dreams were:

Last night I dreamed I was a magician. I was not the kind of magician that dealt with petty card tricks and sawing people in half. No I was the type of magician that ran massive shows in Vegas. I was very good at my job, Last week I swapped the locations of a tank and an elephant on stage without the audience finding out. At last nights show I tried a trick I had not tried in years, I summoned two audience members on stage, Natirasha and Maemuki. I instructed both to go into cupboards on either side of the stage and preformed some wondrous slight of hand. Both of my guests had swapped positions and no-one in the audience understood how my trick had worked.

Last night I dreamed I heard a rumour that one local person, Maemuki, had recently started dating local celebrity Miley Cyrus. I thought to myself that that Miley Cyrus is one dirty bitch but she's still pretty hot. I decided I would wonder over to Maemuki's house and set up camp outside in the hope I would see a bit of nudey miley cyrus action. Unfortunately I didn't see any nudey Miley but I did see any others snooping around Maemuki's house up to now good.

I was told that the first of those would work as intended. Maemuki was the obvious NK choice as the only conf town and I had a suspicion about Nat at the time. However I didn't want to have nat killed without knowing if he was scum or not
The 2nd dream would work depending on the dreams of others, it might have told me who killed maemuki but it was too big a risk

[Guyett]

Who is dead (that was Maemuki)

[Guyett]

VOTE: Goodmorning

[Guyett]

caled, killer and GM are our lynch pool

[Guyett]

I think killer and GM tbh

[Guyett]

GM's slot was Shane and before that Mutley

[Guyett]

Killer was Displaced and Chk both of whom were null/scum in my view

Caled was Guy names riggs

[Guyett]

GM needs rope

[Guyett]

read me all you want

[Guyett]

Do a nice thorough ISO read

[Guyett]

L-1

Good wagon is good

[Guyett]

Or had nobody noticed this is probably MyLo?

Also if there is 2 scum left (which makes sense in a 13 player game) this is MyLo

[Guyett]

I think it's fairly safe to assume right now that the 3 scum are within GM, KJ and Caled.
We lynch GM as she is obv scum and then tailor our dreams to investigate the other two and protect as many of the 3 of us as possible and possibly block their dreams. Its a 3 person job to get those done imo and it'll narrow things down
If needed we can no lynch tomorrow to pinpoint scum even more.

[Guyett]

why?

[Guyett]

GM who is town and who is scum?

[Guyett]

Potential scum teams

Guyett Nat
Guyett Cedric
Guyett GM
Guyett Killer
Guyett Caled
Nat Cedric
Nat GM
Nat killer
Nat caled
Cedric GM
Cedric Killer
Cedric Caled
GM Killer
Gm Caled
Killer Caled

Lets see how many of these we can clear

[Guyett]

Nat can only be scum if I am scum due to my dream last night

any combinations of {cedric guyett nat} and {Killer Caled} as killer or Caled would have hammered town GM

Killer and Caled cannot both be scum as either could have hammered for a scum win


Guyett Nat
Guyett Cedric
Guyett GM

Guyett Killer

Guyett Caled

Nat Cedric
Nat GM
Nat killer
Nat caled

Cedric GM

Cedric Killer

Cedric Caled

/
GM Killer
Gm Caled

Killer Caled

Have I left any out?

possible scum teams are

Guyett Nat
Guyett Cedric
Guyett GM
Nat GM
Nat killer
Cedric GM
GM Killer
Gm Caled

[Guyett]

@ GM I knew you would bring that up... Friendly is a complete different kettle of fish to what we have here

[Guyett]

I may have derped my list

Guyett Nat
Guyett Cedric
Guyett GM

Guyett Killer
Guyett Caled

Nat Cedric
Nat GM
Nat killer
Nat caled

Cedric GM

Cedric Killer
Cedric Caled

GM Killer
Gm Caled

Killer Caled

Leaving

GM Killer
Gm Caled
Cedric GM
Guyett Nat
Guyett Cedric
Guyett GM

[Guyett]

I know myself to be town so GM has to be scum

[Guyett]

my dream completely clears Nat of being scum so a Nat-Haschel team is umpossible.

The only way Nat can be scum is with me

[Guyett]

It potentially could be. However I know myself to be town. I'm sure you could look at my posts and decide for yourself though

[Guyett]

And if you believe me to be town GM

HAS

to be scum

[Guyett]

yes

[Guyett]

Killer or Caled...one of you hammer please

[Guyett]

Who is scum then GM?

[Guyett]

start reading from 402

[Guyett]

Because in theory myself and Nat can be scum. I could be lying about my dream and its result and so if I am scum Nat could be scum too.
I am not ruling out GM and Cedric as cedric could just be bussing GM in the same way that I could be bussing GM (Nat can't be bussing GM as if both are scum I am town and so my dream is true)

[Guyett]

Just hammer GM killer

[Guyett]

yeah so Nat is basically 100% confirmed town unless someone fucked with my dream last night

[Guyett]

So from the 5 choices left 4 of them include scum GM.. the only possible option without GM is a scum team of myself and cedric

[Guyett]

Who was it Caled?

Also why hasn't GM been lynched yet?

[Guyett]

For those of you not in the know, Town-Guy tends to freak the fuck out when there's a wagon on him. Symptoms of this may include: copious amounts of AtE, the inability to calm the fuck down, OMGUS votes, selfvotes, and/or death.

Scum-Guy, on the other hand, handles wagons like a cool mofo.

Compare:
N1398 - he was Scum, lynched D2.
N1390 - he was Town, lynched D2.
N1426 - he was Town, Endgamed. Big wagon was D1.

You are missing one vital difference between those 2 newbie games and this game...

[Guyett]

then why was Caled saying
[the person who saved you] is a paramedic and saves killerjester and goodmorning from a burning house; they are injured but are otherwise fine?

What about my point I made about the meta thing on me?

[Guyett]

Unless my dream was messed with last night GM you have to be scum. It's that simple.

[Guyett]

what role did I have in those 2 town games?

[Guyett]

There is a very very good reason I investigated Nat. Yes I have had him as a town read this game but I also had him as town in 2 games that have recently finished that he flipped scum and won. I needed to make sure he wasn't tricking me again.

Also regarding the safety dream I tried to delay the kill so we could use whoever was killed vote and finish the day in 48 hours if needed. inactivity fucked that up.
As scum why would I be told that the night kill was being delayed due to GIF's dream? That makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

Fucks sake town are actually going to fucking lose this due to FUCKING RETARDED PEOPLE!!!!

[Guyett]

IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM WHY HAVEN'T YOU VOTED ME?

WHY HASN'T GM FUCKING VOTED ME!!!

FUCK SAKE LETS MAKE THIS EASY FOR YOU

VOTE: guyett

go fuck youreslf

[Guyett]

it was 1 game that Nat was scum not 2.

[Guyett]

Killerjester do you hate logic?

[Guyett]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31354
He was part of the Garruk Relentless hydra.

I didn't think I'd be able to get away with delaying the kill for an entire day.. I figured the only way I'd be able to do that is if I knew exactly who the target was. Zaicon would have just shot down the idea of saving whoever the person was for the entire day.

Night kill mechanic is different to the dream mechanic. Maemuki was told the outcome of my dream last night so the effects of dreams could be told to others like the saving from the fire dream.

If you are town and you want to insta lose vote me. It will be glorious and GM will be pissing herself laughing.

Could you think about this logically for a second. Look at my dreams for the past few days.... they have been largely pro town.
Now look at the GM/shane slot. Now it was EXTREMELY obvious that that slot wouldn't be nightkilled if they were town as they are lynch bait. Why then would they chose to be a PGO? The only people that might visit them are town investigating them. We had 3 confirmed town in the last 3 days in GIF, Safety and Who/Maemuki. Gif was modkilled so the likely target of the night kills were the remaining 2 confirmed townies. Why chose to PGO yourself when you could PGO the night kill targets? That slots dreams have been entirely based on self preservation!!!

[Guyett]

Nat please talk sense into him!!! you're effectively conf town now.

Also another reason for investigating Nat was to do with the whole Mason thing with SSK that actually turned out to be neighbours. I was very suspicious of Nat due to that.

[Guyett]

VOTE: GM

[Guyett]

Why are you so sure that GM is town?

[Guyett]

Actually you say rushing mylo is bad... how exactly is this bad?

[Guyett]

Atta boy.

Ok game plan for tonight?

[Guyett]

If you are town try doing dreams similar to the examples I have given. Be specific in what you are looking for and try not leave loose ends that are open to interpretation.

Other than that what Nat said I think.

[Guyett]

If you aren't scum who is?

[Guyett]

I guarantee that I am town. I am nearly sure Nat is town (only way he is scum is if scum fucked up my dream)
Cedric is the only suspicious one

[Guyett]

if GM flips town I should be banned from X-Lo

[Guyett]

Nat if you flip scum again I'm going to be so sad ;_;

[Guyett]

if GM is scum and this game is still active then you prob will go tonight

[Guyett]

fuck it anyway.
GG scum

[Guyett]

I'll leave this game here as a slight rebuttal to that but am inclined to agree.

[Guyett]

I'll be signing up for the next lucid dreamers game Zaicon

[Guyett]

If it wasn't for the outcome of Robs bastard mafia I was going to investigate Cedric ;_;
Ah well gg guys

[Guyett]

Nat at least I tried to sort my dreams out later on
The first one was appalling