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yo whadupLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Ok I read like a few pages and all I got was that JKLM is town. His early reaction testing of Skelda-scum felt like a very genuine one. Go read it. Isn't that EXACTLY the feeling you get when you recognize someone's scum-meta? That's all for now. Gotta jet, peace.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Personality testing now? ESTPLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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How are you saying my play is devoid of substance when I've given a read on JKLM? I realize it's not an encyclopedia but it's certainly more than you misrep me for in #377. Also did you just pull that alienBRO scumread out of your magic hat? You've hardly mentioned the kid.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Not to blow my load prematurely, but mnemonic is definitely scum.
A real town would fully claim in a position like his.Includingname. Including all his bullshit reads that he's still withholding from us even at L-1. Like why the fuck is Broken Aquarium the ice queen? "For reasons untold," he tells us!
Hammertime.
VOTE: mnemonicdevice
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Now why would you go and ruin a perfectly good reaction test.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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What is premature about it?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Vote Counting guide for Noobs: He's at L-2
Starting to think both BA and MD are scumLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Actually L-3. I missed Hermy's unvote.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Wait yea that is a little weird. Why did Hermy switch wagons?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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See here's the problem. To insist that BA is scummier because of MD-scum, you must first show that MD is indeed scum. Furthermore, given that you thought they were both scum,In post 416, Hermy wrote:
I switched wagons because, at this point, BA is certainly more scummy to me. His previous action of unvoting, and not putting his vote back when things were explained looks like mafia feebly trying to defend a scumpartner. Therefore I changed wagons. I'd still be happy with an MD lynch, but BA is definitely scummier to me.In post 413, killerjester wrote:Wait yea that is a little weird. Why did Hermy switch wagons?
(If it would help or be convenient in any way, then I will change my vote back. Just tell me to do so.)why would you take your vote off the scum that BA is clearly trying to protect?
When MD flips scum, Hermy dies next.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Last time I checked this was still a scumtell. Towns vote their biggest scumreads.In post 425, mozamis wrote:
This is surprisingly town. Kinda TOO helpful for scum, I think. She doesn't look worried or self conscious about just following the herd/trying to please people.In post 416, Hermy wrote:(If it would help or be convenient in any way, then I will change my vote back. Just tell me to do so.)Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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The character is not "a Rumblebiffin giant." His name is Rumblebiffin. He is a giant. IF he had a town role PM, it might appear as, and the flavor pertaining to him being a giant would be below, in the flavor text. And if this were the case, MD would supply us with the name "Rumblebiffin" when asked for his character's name. The answer we received, "a Rumblebiffin giant," might be indicative of a scum who googled his fakeclaim to see if he could add any flavor that might help sell his fakeclaim."Rumblebiffin" - Vanilla Townie
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Flavor arguments are not very strong in the sense of whether the moderator would/would not include the role in the setup. I have seen more than a few games where a player was given an obscure character, and indeed was mislynched under the premise of outguessing the mod. In this scenario, you should turn your attention toward themannerof which MD claimed his flavor. I don't know about you, but my role PM uses the following structure.
"Name" - role + alignment
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Flavor/Abilities/Wincon
For MD to provide name AND flavor when he was only asked for his name feels unnatural.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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I've never had an issue with it before.In post 456, Broken Aquarium wrote:Using PM formatting to catch scum makes me feel very uncomfortable, especially when no sample PM was apparently given, at least publicly (I hadn't bothered to look before this moment).
No. Trust telling is when a player states they always act one way as a certain alignment (eg: I never claim VT as scum). This leads to an increasing trust each game that if that player claims VT, they must be town. It's against the rules because it uses an out-of-game influence, namely previous games. Paraphrasing the PM format is perfectly okay because PMs are part of the game.In post 457, Garmr wrote:Wait is pm formatting a trust tell???.
@JKLM, he was only explicitly asked to claim his name. That's what makes it so weird that he would claim being a giant as well, especially when that flavor information would not be located directly next to the name in his role PM.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Actually fuck it. As long as you're willing to lynch MD I won't complain. Just try not to bring bad stigma onto the win wagon.In post 455, killerjester wrote:Flavor arguments are not very strong in the sense of whether the moderator would/would not include the role in the setup. I have seen more than a few games where a player was given an obscure character, and indeed was mislynched under the premise of outguessing the mod.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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What exactly is unhelpful about providing a name when asked for a nameclaim?In post 471, mozamis wrote:UNVOTE
Claim is ok, I guess. Jester is really reaching with his legalistic arguments. Guy was asked to claim, and he did. If he had just said "Rumblebiffin" it would not have been at all helpful. So to lynch the guy for actually being helpful seems wrong headed.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Ironically players still had to check Google because they had no fucking clue who Rumblebuffin was. Because, "I'm a Rumblebuffin giant!" isn't as helpful as you'd like to think it is. Maybe,In post 479, mozamis wrote:If he had just said "Rumblebiifin", I for one -and almost certainly everyone else - would have said "Right, who the hell is that then?"
For the record I think you are town, but I just think you're over analyising and reaching here.maybeif he had provided more paraphrased flavor like, "I'm Rumblebuffin, the giant who broke the fuck out of the door to the witch's fortress," then I'd buy your story that he was actually trying to help us understand who his character is.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Mafia is all about looking at actions and analyzing the varying motivations that might lead to them. As it stands, I can't fathom any town motivation for including information that would not naturally accompany a nameclaim.In post 481, mozamis wrote:I'm simply saying that he he wasked for a nameclaim and he gave it. The fact that he gave a bit more information seems a nonsense reason for lynching him.
This guy is scum. If you want me to look back and point out scummy things he's done then I'm positive I'll be able to find some, but it might look like confirmation bias since it's not the controlling reason I think he's scum.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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No.In post 485, mnemonicdevice wrote:Ugh.... I misread my pm. I haven't seen narnia in a while, so I thought that there was a group of people called "rumblebuffin giants" and that I was one of them. I am a vanilla townie though.
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There is no way you misread something like that. Flavor is nowhere near name.
Lynch it with fire. Please. Someone. Anyone. I'm not crazy I swear.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Lynching MD is very much NOT a problemLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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It's like this. You thought he was town because he was being helpful, right? Now that he has claimed this is not the case, what is your read on him? Do you seriously think that if you looked at your own rolename in your PM that you'd include flavor by mistake? I don't know how big the picture in his PM is, but I'd reckon its big enough that the two aren't side by side.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Sweet can we get a hammerLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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The last thing that goes through his head should be a fucking hammer. It's quite long overdue.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Die "next"? Don't you mean die "instead"? This is a scumclaim if I ever heard oneIn post 537, mnemonicdevice wrote:Alright. Here are my thoughts: JK has pushed way too much on this case and he should die next.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Ok yea anyone who unvoted Hermy really needs to rethink their life.
VOTE: Hermy
Distancing from the MD lynch
Trying to appear overly helpful
Seriously fucking bad wagon switch
*5 posts earlier*In post 405, Hermy wrote:In post 404, mozamis wrote:Ah right Garmr didnt put him at L-1. He is now at L-1 though. Someone unvote.And why exactly does somebody need to unvote? We'd like to see his reaction.
You're confirming my suspicions of a BA, Moz, Mnemonic scumteam.In post 400, Hermy wrote:Broken Aquarium unvotes his scumpartner when there is a strong possibility of him getting lynched. The vote is then not put back. Noted.
[*implied unvote of MD*]
VOTE: Broken AquariumLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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1. It's called my playstyle.
2. Yea of course I wanted my scumread lynched.
3. Please listen.
4. What do you want me to say? That you're a fucking moron?
5. Post 283? This?Like actually, what?
6. She offered to change her vote if the town thought it would be helpful. She offered to change her vote. SHE OFFERED TO CHANGE HER VOTE. Why the fuck would town ever offer to stop voting their biggest scumread. That is the point I was making.
7. Post 544? This?
No offense but are you just making these post numbers up?In post 554, mozamis wrote:Can't really see it myself. BA has been scum hunting quite hard all game. Hammer was fair enough since most of us had given up on MD.
8. Actually I was offering to go find some more reasons to vote MD if someone were to ask for them.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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1. >implying you know a goddamn thing about my scum meta
2-5. Really bad opinions
6. Time was not running out (7 days remained at the time of Hermy's statement) and BA was not in danger of being lynched.
7. The context is different. In mine, my top scumread diesfirst, and Hermy dies next. In MD's context JK (later correct to KJ) dies next. So then who diesfirst? Presumably himself. So then the question came to me, why would town ever agree to be lynched first? They know themselves to be town. It's like as bad as self-hammering as town.
8. Can you explain how this even remotely relates to a point I've made against Hermy.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Can't tell is Skelda is scum or just really bad town.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Garmr's town tho. I'm working on this new towntell called "Uhh HELLO! I'm VOTING you!"
DP was town in this game.
Compare to thisIn post 605, Garmr wrote:Hold it
KillerJester what the fudge. I just voted you and gave my reasons why you were scum and you blatantly ignored my post.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Simple. If Hermy flips town then matt dies. We lynch a scum either way.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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In post 678, JKLM wrote:It's possible they could both be scum
Then we STILL lynch a scum, maybe two
I've never seen town fake a PR for anything other than reaction testing.In post 678, JKLM wrote:they could both be town.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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yo matt what's the latestLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Or now. That's good for me.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Preliminary, I'd be willing to lynch anyone besides JKLM, Garmr, and projectmatt. I'm hoping last night's investigation can help my PoE.
Where the fuck are you matt?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Ok matt might be scum.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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In that case it would also be what we want scum to think we think.In post 741, Skelda wrote:
That seems super unlikely to me. It does, however, seem like what scum would want us to think.In post 739, killerjester wrote:Ok matt might be scum.
He's not a good lynch for today, but I'm curious why he waited to reveal his investigation, and why he hasn't told us the reasons for checking BA over other playersLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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If you answer questions not meant for you one more fucking time I will toss my townread on you out the goddamn 12th story window.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Who the fuck is the votestealerLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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In post 751, mozamis wrote:Yeah, probably best not to fake results as cop as people might then doubt your claim. But anyway, I'm 99% sure your town so it doesnt matter.
I've continued my meta research, and KJ is now in the 99% certain town camp.
So I refuse to lynch Garmr and KJ today.
be good to increase activity, low activity is great for scum.lol okay
Please explain how this makes sense.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Which town game put me in the "99% certain" camp? What made you so sure? List specific similarities if you canLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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My current thoughts are that you're making the laziest, opportunistic push onto an easy target. You haven't provided any examples of why you thought I was "99% town", though one might think such a strong opinion would be more memorable. And for some reason you're so uptight about my lack of reads (though I've given no less than three) that you seem to forget I'm scumhunting to clear up my position on the other five players.In post 796, mozamis wrote:I think it was the last completed game you were town in? Not sure, I'll dig it out later.
But I note how you STILL haven't given any thoughts on whats going on.
You want another read? I have one. You are scum.
VOTE: mozamisLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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You shouldn't use big words if you don't know what they mean.In post 799, Skelda wrote:
You expressed no suspicion of mozamis until he voted for you?In post 798, killerjester wrote:
My current thoughts are that you're making the laziest, opportunistic push onto an easy target. You haven't provided any examples of why you thought I was "99% town", though one might think such a strong opinion would be more memorable. And for some reason you're so uptight about my lack of reads (though I've given no less than three) that you seem to forget I'm scumhunting to clear up my position on the other five players.In post 796, mozamis wrote:I think it was the last completed game you were town in? Not sure, I'll dig it out later.
But I note how you STILL haven't given any thoughts on whats going on.
You want another read? I have one. You are scum.
VOTE: mozamis
OMGUS much?
How about you address the actual points in my post?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Hey mozamis what's with you? You had a pretty big hardon for my reads, but now that I've given one you completely glossed over it.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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But you see I'm not voting you because of your vote on me, I'm voting you because of the manner of which you have done so. It's a delicate difference, easily mislabeled as OMGUS by lazy/bad/scum players, but it's distinct. It's also to date what you have failed to address.
So I'll ask you again.
Where the fuck is this town-game you can't see to find?
Though you've looked at it on two separate occasions
And,In post 793, mozamis wrote:@ KJ yeah I thought you were a town based on 1 game I read where you were town, and thought you were pretty similar here. But I think you must be scum, partly due to P.O.E.And when I looked at that game again,I noticed how you were less aggresive, and how you gave more content.
And I note you left out my other quote, asking for your reads and analysis.
You have had virtually nothing to say all day about the game.In post 751, mozamis wrote:Yeah, probably best not to fake results as cop as people might then doubt your claim. But anyway, I'm 99% sure your town so it doesnt matter.
I've continued my meta research, and KJ is now in the 99% certain town camp.
So I refuse to lynch Garmr and KJ today.
be good to increase activity, low activity is great for scum.Where the fuck did the 99% town come from? Be as specific as you can.
Where the fuck did your suspicions originate? Cite your original read changes that led to POE and show how the posts listed for your meta research no longer hold true.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Are you a fucking idiot?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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You realize the votestealer is going to hammer me with smarg's vote the moment he logs on, don't you?Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Cool Skelda's town.
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A scumplayer would
1. Know which alignment controls the votestealer
2. Not have a need to "be sure" about the unvote if the votestealer is scum. Ff for some reason the unvote failed and I was hammered anyway, he could play it off as, "Everyone saw that I tried to unvote!"
and 3. Not give a fuck if I was hammered by a town votestealer
To answer your question Skelda, votestealer could be either alignment.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Yea fuck it lynch me I'm just a VT. Literally no one thinks I'm town so even if I survive the lynch today I'll probably get us fucked down the road. My flavor is that I'm Susan Pevensie and Father Christmas made me a real badass at archery.
Lost my townread on JKLM because of his disappearing act. He could very possibly be scum. PeaceBringer as well. They both snuck onto my wagon and vanished into thin fucking air.
Mozamis is probably town, he's responded well to my pressure and is generally active and pushing the game forward despite all the active lurking going around.
Skelda's still town.
Garmr's still town.
I want Matt to be town but his investigation on BA last night was pretty fucking bad considering his STILL hasn't claimed WHY he chose BA.
Rach is tough to read. I'd say lynch her if we haven't won after lynching JKLM/Peace/Matt.
Is that everyone? Oh, smargaret. Probably town. Gut I guess.
UNVOTE:
Good luck fuckersLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Yo matt did you miss your cue?
In post 835, killerjester wrote:I want Matt to be town but his investigation on BA last night was pretty fucking bad considering hisSTILLhasn't claimedWHYhe chose BA.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Get better at being a cop noobIn post 839, projectmatt wrote:I was having trouble reading him. If you have any interest in staying alive today you should probably vote JKLM.
VOTE: JKLMLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Yea seriously smarg. Mozamis is like 99% town.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Well I mean at this point JKLM is getting lynched. The only question now is if he wants to give us his reads instead of running around in circles wondering why there's rope around his neck.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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I agree with this post, even if JKLM isn't some ridiculously overpowered bomb.In post 873, JKLM wrote:That's 2 confirmed town, right up there^Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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I'm lol'ing at the Matt-kill. Game-solved.
smargaret
RachMarie
PeaceBringer
2 of these 3 are scum because Skelda, Garmr, and mozamis are all town. And we have one mislynch available to us.
VOTE: PeaceBringer
If you guys prefer smarg or Rach to die first just let me know and we can do that.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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^ Oh reasoning being that if smarg were scum she'd be in a bad position to bus today, and if she's town then the scumteam is Peace/Rach. PeaceBringer is scum in either scenario.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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Hmm
UNVOTE:
Should we just mass claim? It could help identify which alignment holds the votestealer (eg: if no one claims votestealer then we can safely assume it is a scumrole). Would let us know if we're in LyLo or not.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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I've already claimed. Here it is once more for posterity.In post 835, killerjester wrote:Yea fuck it lynch meI'm just a VT. Literally no one thinks I'm town so even if I survive the lynch today I'll probably get us fucked down the road. My flavor is that I'm Susan Pevensie and Father Christmas made me a real badass at archery.Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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smargaret - Edmund Pevensie, Miller
alienBRO - Father Christmas, VT
Garmr - Mrs. Macready, VT
Skelda - Tumnus, Town Tracker
mozamis - Mrs. Beaver, VT
killerjester - Susan Pevensie, VT
RachMarie - Peter Pevensie, 1-shot Votesteal
Broken Aquarium - Lucy Pevensie, Town Doctor
Hermy - The White Witch, Mafia JOAT
PeaceBringer - The Wardrobe, Odd-night Jailer
JKLM - Mr. Beaver, VT
mnemonicdevice - Rumblebuffin Giant, VT
projectmatt - Aslan, 1-shot Sane CopLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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VOTE: PeaceBringerLord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
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