Mini 1512: BIPOLAR MAFIA - GAME OVER

[FakeGod]

Why can't UT be killed

Because next night, UT is a reflexive jailkeeper.

If scum target him, they fail and get roleblocked instead.

[FakeGod]

Elyse, no lynch is the correct move.

Town loses no mislynches, and town can confirm players.

[FakeGod]

mollie you might be scum, you might be town. I don't know.

Like I said, I'm not some scumhunting god.

That's why I'm pushing for a No lynch.

[FakeGod]

Like, how could you not see that no lynch is the correct move here?

I have calculated for every possible move scum can make.

No lynch will destroy the scum team.

[FakeGod]

I told you, I'm not a scumhunting god.

That's why I wrote up this plan to nail the scum.

I don't know who the scum is, but this plan is going to narrow it down without town throwing away a mislynch.

[FakeGod]

Elyse, you failed at logic.

If mollie gets an innocent result on a player, then that player is town, regardless of whether mollie is scum or not. Because:

If mollie is scum and says a player is town, then because there's only one scum remaining presumably, mollie's target is town.

If mollie is town and says a player is town, then she isn't lying and she really did get a innocent result on the target.

I don't trust her, but her investigations are trustworthy.

[FakeGod]

The problem with no lynch is that it gives scum an easy opportunity to no-kill and frame UT. And yes I know that this gives mollie another investigation but you don't even believe she's town so why is that so appealing to you?

If we lynch TIP and he flips town, then it's 4v1 and if scum doesn't kill we get an extra mislynch anyway and we narrow our scumpool down to like 1 person. So, they have to kill. This means that either I confirm someone (UT) or mollie confirms someone (You). Whoever is not confirmed is lynched ftw. And if UT is confirmed and I survive, then we can No Lynch because scum only has one option to kill and unless they have to no kill or else they confirm themselves as scum.

PLUS

If we lynch TIP then I have better odds at blocking the NK if he flips town.

So yeah because we're at an even number of players now, we can no lynch at any time to gain an extra mislynch. And I would much rather no lynch on a depressed day because then UT and I can't be killed (assuming UT is town).

VOTE: TheIrishPope

Elyse, we should no lynch. It's not too late to lynch TIP tomorrow.

We will still have 2 mislynches left tomorrow.

[FakeGod]

Ok but listen.

If I'm killed, then mollie gets a free investigation anyway.

If mollie is killed, then UT is confirmed by me (or not) and then both UT and I can't die during the depressed phase.

Elyse, you're blocking UT either way, so lynching TIP doesn't increase your chance of blocking the night kill.

What if mollie is scum? You do realize that we lose the game immediately if we lynch TIP today, mollie is scum, kills you during the night, and fakes a guilty on me?

No lynch is the safer, better option.

[FakeGod]

What? We NEVER have 2 mislynches.

Ever.

We have 1 mislynch, no matter how you spin it.

Liar.

[FakeGod]

We have to mislynch twice to lose the game.

You're wrong, LLD.

[FakeGod]

Unless you meant that we can have at max one mislynch and still win, then we're on the same page.

[FakeGod]

Unless you meant that we can have at max one mislynch and still win, then we're on the same page.

In the way you used it, mislynch means lynches you can get wrong without losing the game.

We have 1 of those.

Then we're on the same page.

[FakeGod]

Ok, the plan is to have Elyse block UT and mollie investigate between me and TIP, whichever one she feels like.

If scum no kills, then mollie gets free investigation.

If scum shoots Elyse, then mollie gets an investigation and UT is confirmed town who can't die tomorrow night.

If scum shoots mollie, then Elyse confirms UT, and we have two confirmed town who can't die tomorrow night.

If scum shoots TIP, then Elyse confirms UT, and we have two confirmed town who can't die tomorrow night.

If scum shoots me or LLD, then we auto-win trivially.

[FakeGod]

don't hammer yet

FG, why isn't there a scum-shoots-UT eventuality in your list? there's nothing stopping them from doing that

If scum shoots UT tonight, then mollie comes back with an investigation on TIP.

If TIP is scum, then we lynch him for the win.

If TIP is town, then we have 2 mislynches to use between 3 people (me, mollie, LLD). That's pretty damn good odds.

[FakeGod]

I already voted.

We're waiting for UT/mollie/LLD.

[FakeGod]

mollie, please post your investigation result.

[FakeGod]

We were in Anger Phase last night.

That means your results would be reversed.

So wouldn't that mean that TIP is actually town?

I copped lamda n1 cos of mason claim and got back scumz.

[FakeGod]

d2 - I wanted to secure a town read in order to do a comparison but I went with sd and got back scum and yaye!

You investigated sd n2, which was Anger Phase, and got back guilty result.

So TIP is town.

[FakeGod]

From my point of view, it has to be either you or LLD.

I guess I can go for LLD first.

Vote: LLD

I'm not losing this game to a godfather.

[FakeGod]

TIP, it seems that mollie rather vote confirmed town than vote scum.

I want you to keep your streak of hammering scum.

Hammer please.

[FakeGod]

LLD stopped caring.

Mollie's just trolling now.

What's there not to get?

[FakeGod]

mollie's obviously just trolling

She's voting for confirmed town lol

Hammer LLD please.

This game's over.

[FakeGod]

Although, it would be pretty hilarious if they are actually both scum.

It doesn't matter if there's another night, however. We followed the plan yesterday for a reason.

UT cannot be killed tonight, and neither can you.

[FakeGod]

If the game doesn't end with this lynch, then you'll target UT with your ability so that you get jailkeep protection tonight.

[FakeGod]

Well, TIP, if I was scum, I would've tried to get you lynched when mollie said you were scum at the day start, instead of correcting her.

And then, when you flipped town, I would've said mollie lied about her investigations and got her lynched tomorrow to win.

[FakeGod]

LLD is scum because she didn't participate in the Dom's lynch.

LLD is scum because she defended Who like her life depended on it.

LLD is scum because her lynch pool yesterday consisted of UT, TIP, and me.

LLD is scum because she tried to push your lynch, even though we could save the lynch and investigate you instead.

Unless you think LLD suddenly became the worst player on this site, I think the answer is pretty obvious: LLD is scum.

[FakeGod]

Yeah ok that makes sense.
So I target UT tonight? But are we sure that's going to protect me?

TIP, we've been over this.

UT is a reflexive jailkeeper.

Just target him and you'll be safe.

[FakeGod]

You will be both roleblocked and protected.

You know what jailkeepers do, yes?

[FakeGod]

You'll be jailkept.

That means you're both roleblocked and protected.

[FakeGod]

Oh, I see what you're confused about.

UT is a reflexive jailkeeper. He doesn't target anyone during the night.

Rather, anyone who visits him gets jailkept instead.

If you target him, then you become jailkept no matter what kind of role you may had.

[FakeGod]

See, the thing is, if I cling to him, he roleblocks me

He roleblocks and protects you at the same time.

Your worry is misplaced.

[FakeGod]

Mollie what the hell

Read your role please

[FakeGod]

I agree that the setup was pretty town-sided, perhaps not overwhelmingly so if mollie's sanities were paranoid/naive, but still.

[FakeGod]

Good job, TIP.

You hammered three scums in a row.

[FakeGod]

Does LLD always act like this?

[FakeGod]

My apologies to Romanes and Tragedy.

You guys were null reads I needed gone so I could start using PoE.

[FakeGod]

ugh, it was like pulling teeth from a baby rhino trying to get the town to no lynch on d4.

It was an honor playing with you, DGB. Your game was solid.

Also, thumbs up to Elyse for her very nice PR play.

[FakeGod]

UT, we were working against each other most of the game, until this post:

I'm not voting for FakeGod today either

After that we were pretty much good to go.

mollie, ugh. You threw really hard in this game.

[FakeGod]

Better than the VT / VTs role PM which pretty much just mocked him for not having powers

VT is my favorite role.

[FakeGod]

Dead QT, scum QT, and Therapist QT links please.

[FakeGod]

Also, the full setup and mod notes.

[FakeGod]

That's fine.

[FakeGod]

Tell me at least there was a dead QT.

[FakeGod]

man, the dead people had no faith in me.

The town roles seemed ridiculously strong in this game. Now I know why.

[FakeGod]

DGB, your message was confusing as heck lol

[FakeGod]

It was just simple math after DGB died.

I was pretty sure scum was between LLD and mollie, and that they will both vote me.

I knew TIP would be voting with me, but I wasn't sure about UT and Elyse.

I also knew that scum's only chance of winning was if they shot Elyse during the night, so if we no lynched, she was getting shot for sure.

Soon as I saw that UT was on my side, I pushed for the no lynch plan, let Elyse die, and then game was won.

[FakeGod]

LLD why do you play with so much anger?

[FakeGod]

mmk

[FakeGod]

You know what's OP?

Shadow Reflexive Jailkeeper.

Holy Shieeet

[FakeGod]

the flavor UT claimed was a paranoid dungeon owner

In my mind, anyone who visited UT was grabbed and manhandled into his basement and locked there for the night

that ain't a roleblocker; that's a jailkeeper

[FakeGod]

Thanks, Bert!!!