Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Kagami

[Lady Lambdadelta]

vote tbird

nonononono

Kagami vote is best vote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No Kanye. No.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 7

ActionDan

- 3 - Porkens, Tierce, MafiaSSK - (L-4)

Kagami

- 2 - Lady Lambdadelta, ActionDan - (L-5)

kanyeknowsbest

- 1 - LnGrrrR - (L-6)

Porkens

- 1 - Plum - (L-6)

Tierce

- 3 - Katsuki, Kagami, kanyeknowsbest - (L-4)

Players not voting: Fate, Seanald, Tammy

But I'm telling you no.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like if you don't remove your vote now I might be forced to assume you're claiming scum, Kanye. I want you to look at the player list, then remember Scummies invitational, and tell me if you catch my drift.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't believe I have to explain this.

Tammy, if you can't understand why in a game with Katsuki/Fate putting Tierce at a 3 vote wagon is literally the most anti-town thing you could do in this game, then you should probably replace out of this one because you're going to be more of a hindrance than a help.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

go read scummies invitational and don't come back until you feel the pain

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lady, is there some reason that you won't give a quick summary of why that's a bad idea? I don't really feel like reading a whole game unless there's a good reason for it.

1) because I don't do things half way, and I'm not in a good place right now to be going back through that game and linking you to relevent posts.
2) because allowing you to determine what you find from the game provides variance in responses, and allows me the chance to develop further reads.
3) I won't spoonfeed you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Plus, you only really need to read day 1/2.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If I was you wouldn't know the difference anyway. I was praying for a scum role pm with this playerlist, because it would be an easy win. I've got a solid bead on how to make over half this town read me as solid town. I wouldn't be drawing this attention to myself.

But by all means, try your luck Kanye.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah Fate WAS posting elsewhere on this site yesterday.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You should probably start losing it then, or alternatively do something about it.

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Lady, is there some reason that you won't give a quick summary of why that's a bad idea? I don't really feel like reading a whole game unless there's a good reason for it.

were you interested in voting either of those two people?

If Lady could provide a good reason to, sure. But when that good reason is "Go read a Day or two from another game", eh, not that motivated yet. If it gets close to LyLo or something I may, but I am content to develop reads from this game.

You're not reading this game, are you?

Vote: LnGrrR

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote
Vote: Tierce

Oh look friends, now I wonder where I've heard/seen this before.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote
Vote: Tierce

Oh look friends, now I wonder where I've heard/seen this before.

yeah but Tierce is actually scum this game

If you want to dance this whole fuckin LOL LOOK AT SCUMMIES FATE WAS WRONG

then

you clearly don't remember I was an SK that game

and that tunneling town, was a yknow

GOOD WAY TO LIVE OR SO IF UCKING THOUGHT.


But if you want to go on record defending her feel free

I'm going on record that this is your MO in games you play in that also exist with Tierce.

And I'm going on record that it's a huge fucking distraction to the town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lady, is there some reason that you won't give a quick summary of why that's a bad idea? I don't really feel like reading a whole game unless there's a good reason for it.

were you interested in voting either of those two people?

If Lady could provide a good reason to, sure. But when that good reason is "Go read a Day or two from another game", eh, not that motivated yet. If it gets close to LyLo or something I may, but I am content to develop reads from this game.

You're not reading this game, are you?

Vote: LnGrrR

Considering that this game has consisted of "instalynch" and random "X person is scum due to Y meta", no, not really. Once everyone gets done circle jerking about how they know so and so is scum because of a random phrase/word, and actually scumhunts, it will likely pick up.

For instance, what the heck is the case on Katsuki? Or Teirce? It seems to be a bunch of meta comments. But I expect you'll say something pithy like "Go read the case yourself so I can get reactions from you too!" or set hint equally asinine.

Here's this crazy theory I have: if you have found something scummy, then you (gasp) POINT IT OUT TO TOWN. You don't say, "I found something scummy but I am not sharing, you find it." That's just how I play though. Mafiascum has a weird meta, where lurking keeps you safe and acting like an ahole makes you town.

I'm more talking about the fact that I have been saying the opposite this entire time. The literal only thing I've been saying is that Fate would 100% vote Tierce when he came into this game because something about Tierce gives him fucking Rabies, and that putting a wagon on Tierce like that would only consist to make it easier for Fate v. Tierce to become a huge fucking distraction.

This is what you clearly are not reading, and this is why your posting so far is making you look bad.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

most games Ive been scum/SK against Tierce....

so what the literal fuck is this fencesitting record

DO YOU THINK SHES TOWN THIS GAME OR NOT. I want to know before I post my case

I refuse to say. What now Fate, are you going to try and go 1v1 with me now? I dare you~.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No, but I'm about 13 letters away from dayvigging you ^_^/.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't believe I have to explain this.

Tammy, if you can't understand why in a game with Katsuki/Fate putting Tierce at a 3 vote wagon is literally the most anti-town thing you could do in this game, then you should probably replace out of this one because you're going to be more of a hindrance than a help.

Katsuki was already on the wagon. Fates vote wouldn't have made her a lynch, and most of the other votes were rvs.

You're rushing out the gate to save tierce from an rvs wagon is what has me concerned.

7

Have you ever played with Fate before? It's not about the risk of either of them being lynched, it's about the huge distraction he's going to cause.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

he was Hydra'd with Nuwen that game, and Nuwen is much more reserved as a player. I was scum that game, they were trying to survive through night 1 so they could nail me Day 2.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD isn't explicitly saying Tierce is town, LLd is saying "lol they are gonna cause a distraction so no" which about the biggest pile of fence sit ive seen in some time

like I said lld can die at any time

As you wish it, so it shall be done.

Erase: Fate

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll see you in Hell, Fate.

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Also, one of Porkens/Plum is probably scum, especially if Katsuki is town.

I still don't like Kagami, especially if Fate flips scum here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

FAKE DAYVIGS ARE SO FUN GUIZ

Oh honey, it's not fake. You and me are both taking a trip to the Dead Thread.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like seriously, going from "DONT U DISTRACT THE TOWN FATE/TIERCE" to "LOLZDAYVIGS"

LLD needs to die

I have granted your wish, aren't you happy?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you honestly just suicidebombed as town then the game literally just over are you retarded

This game has a much higher chance of being a town victory without you in it right now. Not to mention your case was really scummy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Embrace death Fate, let it wash over you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Porkens- Scummy
Kagami- Scummy
ActionDan- Town
Tammy- Town
LnGrrrR- Mildly Scummy, was just putting pressure on him.
kanyeknowsbest- Town
Katsuki- Watch this slot in days 2 and 3, but for right now, town.
Plum- Town is Porkens is scum, otherwise, scum.
Seanald- Probably town.
MafiaSSK- I have nothing on this guy/
Tierce- Watch this slot in days 2/3. If she's scum, you'll know.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if it leads to a tierce lynch after I'm dead itll be infinitely more useful than what you've done this game which was to post shit for reads/content and blow your ability on another town player

Wow you sound really angry Fate.

It's a shame that anger won't help you where you're going ^_^.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...tierce might actually be scum though.

She got after katsuki? For not voting for an instant night lynch wagon on dan. The next day, I said I'd gotten my role pm, saw the plan, decided it was crap and didn't post in the game? Why wasn't I grilled for that scummy behavior?

Fate - she didn't vote katsuki for being male, she was correcting plum who called katsuki a female.

Because you're obvious town for the way you pursued me? LOL. It's not that hard.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lady, ok, now I get it, and it makes much more sense. There's a player by the name of Generic who gets into huge fights to that ends up distracting town. (He does it as both alignments, but only I think to cover for the fact that t helps him distract town as scum. He just has to keep up the facade when he is town.)

Is Katsuki the same way?

Thanks for the summary Tammy.

Realllllly dislike that vig if it's real. Even if he ends up flipping scum. His case on Tierce is drawing on a few loose threads and thing them together, but that happens early D1, and I find it usually comes from townies more than scum.

Mafiascum has weird meta... Is not asking for a claim before a vig commonplace here?

@LLD, what if he is the doc? Or cop? That move is anti-town, no matter how you look at it.

No it's a perfectly town move, and if Fate was a cop or a doc he would have said something in relation to my Vig threat at the top of page 5.

I still think Fate's putting on a show and will flip scum, but if he doesn't C'est la Vie. I'm much happier about my chances of winning this game as town with him dead.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fate, let's be real. If I gave two fucks what you thought of me as a player, I wouldn't have dayvigged you on Page 5.

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You're cute when you rage, Fate. ^_^

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@Kanye: I'm trusting you to lead this town to the promisedland, ok? Trollkastel solidarity and all etc.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgviDNeXQ2w

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE ME SOME FAKE DAYKILLS

FATE ILL BE OUT OF TOWN FOR THE NEXT 4 DAYS I ENTRUST TIERCE TO YOU

lld your read for me is bad and i'm curious what lead you to say what you did re:me

HEY READ THE GAME IM FUCKIN DEAD

oh wait

If LLD REALLY did kill you BEFORE I EVEN GOT A CHANCE TO READ YOU AND POST

I'll be sad if I have to blacklist LLD. Hopefully she's not that dumb because EVERYONE ON THIS FUCKING SITE KNOWS THAT I;M A 100% SANE FATECOP

You'd have to be active in a game for once to actually be that useful.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why would you kill someone on page 5, LLD?

His case was bad and included such compelling reasonings as "Tierce voted Katsuki because he was male", showing he didn't really read jack shit and would continue not to read jack shit.

His interactions with Tierce were looking exactly like Scummies Invitational, and I'm not scum this game. And I know how easy it is for scum to just take advantage of the noise:content ratio that Fate v. Tierce would put out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lady, does Katsuki often tunnel too? Is he/she buddy/buddy with Fate?

I would think that in a game like this, with no NightChat, any sort of Day ability would be extremely useful.

Your logic makes no sense Lady. Here are the scenarios:

1) Fate et all death tunnel Tierce. Tierce ends up lynched, and is town. Now we are down a townie, but we have some opinions to work off.

2) You suicidebomb Fate. If he is town, now we have two townies dead, and no analysis.

In fact, the only way I can really see the "suicide bomb" thing making sense from a town perspective is if it was PoE and you needed to eliminate those who were mislynch material in LyLo.

Anyways, poor play in my humble opinion.

@lady, how many "good" cases do you often see on Page 5?

This is why you needed to read the game I told you to read. Neither of them would have gotten lynched today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nope. Not good enough.

VOTE: LLD

What part of "I'm Dead" did you miss?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD doesn't make sense it makes AIDS

dont ask it fuckin questions

if Tierce is scum Katsuki is 100% town don't even fuckin bother

"It?"

So because I wouldn't respond to your rage, you're going to take low blows at me? hahahahah

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BECAUSE YOU WOULDNT RESPOND TO MY RAGE

HOW ABOUT BECUASE YOU THOGUHT ITD BE A GOOD FUCKING IDEA TO EITHE RKILL ME ON PAGE 5 OF A FUCKIGN MAFIA GAME OR LIE ABOUT IT FOR LITERALLY NO OTHER PURPOSE BUT TO GET ME TO BREAK SHIT


DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK I ENJOY GETTING PISSED OFF SO MUCH I SHAKE WITH ANGER?

BECAUSE ITS ACTUALLY A FUCKIN PROBLEM I HAVE SO IF YUORE GOING TO EXPLOIT MINE IM GIONG TO EXPLOIT YOURS NO SHIT

ahahahaha. Look how

cute

you are!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But seriously, we're both dead.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Because the Day 1 lynch (which BTW you still get, this kill is not day ending as far as I can tell) is worth a hell of a lot more than you think, and the input of 50 pages of back and forth Bullets for Bullets between Tierce and Fate and me and etc. was going to reach a saturation point where the Noise was going to help the scum hide beneath it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ITS NOT FUCKIN CUTE YOU SADIST CLOWN

YOU HAD ONE POST TO COME CLEAN NOW THE ONLY OPTION ARE DUMB/DUMBER


WERE YOU LITERALLY SLAMMED INTO CONCRETE HEADFIRST AS A CHILD

So what if I was? Would that make you any less dead?

And I think it's pretty cute.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, again, I'm not confident that Fate won't flip scum. So we'll see, won't we~.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think the concretes as good as it gets, stag. gonna leave before this gets anymore toxic

Toxic? I don't know what you could possibly mean! I'm playing to my win condition and using my role to it's fullest potential.

And your posting is obviously designed to be entertaining and cute in your last moments, so I can't see how any of this could possibly be toxic!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lady, personally, I would've waited to see if it became toxic first instead of firing preemptively. Now, we can't get reaction to Fate's case.

On the plus side, I am glad I didn't spend time reading that game.

Eh? The moment it becomes noise over content, we've already lost so so much. The game will already start to fall into apathy and the scum will drive that home with strategic posting and voting.

I'm very happy with my play, and the result I have gotten out of it so far.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Kanye: I'm trusting you to lead this town to the promisedland, ok? Trollkastel solidarity and all etc.

ill fuckin try but only because of the sick lou reed you posted

Kanye, you're going to see a second part of my role in my flip. When you do, you're going to need to pay attention to everything and play perfectly to maximize your benefit from the knowledge.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think lingerer might be scum, but it might also be his play style.

Let me list the players in most likely to least likely scum for you Kanye, from my PoV.

Porkens/Plum
Kagami
LnGrrrR
MafiaSSK
--------------- This is the, I would lynch all of these if this was a scorched earth type of game line.
Katsuki/Tierce
---------------- This is the, I would not consider lynching any of these players until Lylo line.
Seanald
ActionDan
kanyeknowsbest
Tammy

Katsuki and Tierce are something you need to monitor through the next few days.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm here to help you, friend.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think im pretty good @ reading katsuki so im not real concerned abt that 1

I'm not concerned about either of them. I'm saying that their alignments should become extremely obvious by day 2 or 3.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

did you know that to this day i have still never once seen tierce as scum despite playing like 10+ games w. her ?

Funny~.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

gamblers fallacy says she must be scum in this game.

I haven't ruled it out as a possible outcome.

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@Lady, what if Fate was a cop, doc or something along those lines? Would you still be satisfied?

As I said before, I very much doubted he was based on his play and stuff, but even if he was, I would be more than satisfied.

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like sure some of its questionable but the parts that matter are good

Talk to me about the questionable parts, Kanye.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As I mentioned before, Plum is only up there because Porkens is. If Porkens is scum, PLum is town. I think they're explicitly opposite alignments.

Seanald is one I had a moment of paranoia about, so if anyone in that bottom half is scum it might be him. It's why he's at the top of the section and not at the bottom with Tammy.

Kagami feels really scum to me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, Tierce, have fun, play hard, and enjoy the game, ok~? ^_^/

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Hiiiiiiiii Tierce~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tierce, come talk to me about stuff~. I wanna be as useful as possible before I die.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really hope the suicide bomb was real.

It was~.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tierce, even if Fate was scum, I think it was the right play.

Now, go look at my post of reads and talk to me about it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LOL TIERCE <3

P-Edit: But But But, I wanna talk while I can still liiiiiveeeee.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tierce, my favorite part of the conversation came with the exchange in posts 160, 162, 164. :3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Most of your posts have been spam thoguh

And yet I've still provided more content than you have.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Meow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Katsuki, you're hysterical. And I don't mean that in the "you're funny" way.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don't worry about it Tierce, I don't need the validation of Fate or his lapdog to be happy. ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If Fate said what he did deliberately, it might be a violation of site rules regardless of alignment.

Tierce, I think you may well be scum here.

Plum, I highly doubt she is at this point, but if she is, it'll become monumentally clear by Day 3.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kind of happy I don't have to read LLD for now because there is far too much entanglement with stuff that doesn't really pertain to the game.

Bah, I feel kinda greedy for playing games with you now, but I can't control Fate being an asshole~.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Teirce, the best fate would be ONE of you or Fate to be lynched down the road. In my experience, when two people continue to focus exclusively on one another, it more often than not tends to be one scum and one town, rather than town vs town. And no, I don't think you should just roll over, I try to fight strongly against my lynch, whether town or scum: scum for obvious reasons, town because it forces people to take a stand and not lazily hop (plus hopefully it helps town later.)

@Porkens, thanks, I will reread that part.

Look I've been patient so far, but you need to stop this line of inquiry all together if you're town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I SPEAK FOR THE TREES TIERCE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't explain town reads, sorry Tierce. I especially am not going to explain my town reads in this game for a reason you'll understand after I flip.

Porkens and Plum's interactions and actions in this game speak to them not being scum together, but also to the fact that I don't think they can both be town. I'm leaning towards Porkens being the scummy one, because Plum feels town, but if Porkens flips town... etc. Katsuki is much more likely to be scum if neither of they are, but it's not past either of them to try and bus Kats based on Kats' suggestion. With Fate alive, lynching Katsuki would have been a very difficult task.

I can however tell you that Tammy is my most confident read in this game, followed by ActionDan and Kanye together. I'm much more confident in my town reads than in my scum reads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

#64 into #66 followed by #74. Doesn't feel right.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

youre really grabbin @ whatever you can, arent you buddy?

brains?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm still amazed at how often kayne got brought up and... nothing.

Well done sir.

I LIVE DUE TO YOUR PROWESS

Dude you have no idea how sad I am about this game.

I did EVERYTHING I COULD HAVE DONE TO HELP TOWN WIN WITH MY ROLE.

And we lost.

Sadness flows through me.