Mini 1526: OCRemix Mafia (Game Over)

[Natirasha]

Yeah but I can't win that war vs ns.

[Natirasha]

Also quoting right now for postgame that the scumteam is likely ns/Bert and we're all gonna be fucked.

[Natirasha]

For the record whenever I play D&D or any sort of team fantasy game I always play the archer, but bows are hard to draw in MSPaint.

[Natirasha]

Because that's the smart thing to do. See also: my recently completed newbie, where I was cross-voting in a tvt situation when I literally knew who the final scum was.

[Natirasha]

Convince us ns is scum then if you "know" he's scum

I don't! And I get to be a cassandra when it happens!

Although I'll just point out, you know,

my entire day one play including the mason gambit

when it happens.

[Natirasha]

how was that gambit townie again? when did you decide you would attack notscience D2? You two seemed buddy-buddy D1.

It's supposed to poach on the scum's want to have ez townpoints.

Forces them to not kill me or something.

I also like fakeclaiming mason. This is not the first time I've done it(w/SSK in Lucid Dreamers).

[Natirasha]

I've always been scummier than you. You also are much more capable in all aspects of the game!

Quick, ffery, what's the quote I always use to describe my towngame?

[Natirasha]

Were you town in that game?

Town and a half.

The bit about being a bad town player who pretends to be good? Or something else?

That's the one.

[Natirasha]

She did it in Red Wine. Otherwise, new phenomena I guess.

I wanna see the fabled content she keeps promising.

[Natirasha]

I am crazy because Ffery/notscience actually makes sense. What do you think?

Hmmm.

I could see it.

She's the one who weened me off my ns tunnel.

[Natirasha]

This is why I want to no lynch by the way, we force the scum to make some choices.

[Natirasha]

I'm always like this with my reads?

[Natirasha]

I oscillate between two extremes, I guess. I can pull tons of games where I literally lurked and proddodged til LyLo.

Most recently, Mafia Pinnipedum.

PEDIT: I was nullreading the replaceout.

[Natirasha]

You're letting scum-Nati fan the flames of your paranoia, bert.

Can you decide whether I'm scum or not yet instead of waffling?

[Natirasha]

K Bert you have another game with me on the list now.

[Natirasha]

I'm not evil here!

Unless you mean my character, but Heiss was ultimately a tragic figure imo vs a typical villain. His decent into madness & death thematically served to be a means of character development to Stocke. I could write papers on this.

Hey! Don't spoil the game for me.

[Natirasha]

VT.

As every other person is gonna claim.

[Natirasha]

Popcorn to fuckall because this is dumb.

[Natirasha]

Just finish massclaiming or vote for a no lynch yawn.

[Natirasha]

I will vote for Toog if that's what you people are doing.

[Natirasha]

OH LOOK AT THAT WE ALL CLAIMED VT

[Natirasha]

Weird, I don't remember claiming nati.

Well you have something to claim?

[Natirasha]

I approach mafia from a vig perspective, no matter what my actual role. It's how I think about the game - who would I kill and from there who all the other potential PRs should focus on.

Throughout both our hydra and my other games with you, I have never gotten this feeling from how you play.

[Natirasha]

Ffery and Nat 1 on 1 convos trying to 'sort' each other - felt awkward, idk why

I'm trying to sort her?

[Natirasha]

Bert's probably town for a number of reasons, I guess.

I still want to no lynch to see if I'm right though(I think he's most likely dead if we go to night--which is fine by me~VisCon).

[Natirasha]

I like it either way.

[Natirasha]

I think it's ffery-Toog.

[Natirasha]

Perhaps.

[Natirasha]

What heebiejeebies, ns?

[Natirasha]

Nat it's your lucky rubber ducky day

Yaaay.

[Natirasha]

Eddie I just wanna say that had I not replaced your sorry ass in Death's Diner, I'd probably ignore Sakura and lynch you.

[Natirasha]

Yeah =/

[Natirasha]

Fucking vote me Toog! Prove one of us is scum!

[Natirasha]

It's ffery-toog.

[Natirasha]

K now we wait for the scum votes.

THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING
REBEL ONE
FIGHT

[Natirasha]

Yes it makes sense.

If Toog isn't scum, then the scumteam has a win on the table. Ergo, if they don't, then one of us is scum.

[Natirasha]

I'd rather you unvote and let me cross then.

[Natirasha]

VOTE: Toogaloo

[Natirasha]

I miss Sakura Hana.

[Natirasha]

I mean, I get the case on Eddie.

But if Sakura was scum, I want this game on record even more so we can stop that tell.

So the other three should pick someone and just roll with it.

[Natirasha]

So the thing with Sakura is she's replaced out only as town.

I am willing to believe she deliberately replaced out as scum.

I am not sure if Eddie is scum--ffery can tell you about Eddie in Death's Diner.

[Natirasha]

I'm actually with Toog here. Pick him or me(or Eddie...) and let's end this.

[Natirasha]

I'm stuck waiting too.

Wanna lynch ffery, Toog?

[Natirasha]

Yeah I know, Eddie & ns are scum.

[Natirasha]

Is it?

[Natirasha]

I am scumreading you in a certain fashion, yes.

[Natirasha]

That's a hell of a team.

[Natirasha]

Shaheed=Toog
Occam=Eddit
Heart=ns

[Natirasha]

I'm willing to YOLO on Eddie at this point.

[Natirasha]

THE TIME HAS COME

TOOGELOO IF YOURE SCUM

GOOD FUCKIN JOB

BUT IM TIRED OF THIS GAME

YOLO

VOTE: EddieFenix

[Natirasha]

LIKE IM BETTING IT ALL ON EDDIE/NS AS THE SCUMTEAM

ALL IN

ITS LIKE IM IN VEGAS BAYBEE

[Natirasha]

DO IT MOTHERFUCKER

DONT MESS WITH MY HEART

DO IIITTTT

[Natirasha]

HOLY SHIT EDDIES ACTUALLY SCUM

#NOTSCIENCE
#REKT
#SAKURATELL
#ITSHAPPENING

[Natirasha]

or not.

[Natirasha]

I'm not scum.

4realz.

[Natirasha]

Wait I said that last game.

I'm actually not scum here though.

[Natirasha]

Hey notscience I noticed you haven't posted here today yet.

TOLD STATUS:
[ ] NOT TOLD
[ ] TOLD
[x] FUCKING TOLD
[x] CASH4TOLD.COM
[x] KNIGHTS OF THE TOLD REPUBLIC
[x] TOLDERONE
[x] STONE TOLD STEVE AUSTIN
[x] CURE FOR THE COMMON TOLD
[x] BEN TOLDS
[x] THE 40 YEAR TOLD VIRGIN
[x] 007: TOLDENEYE
[x] TEXAS TOLD’EM
[x] AUSTIN POWERS IN TOLDMEMBER
[x] PTERODACTOLD
[x] TOLDTINO’S PIZZA ROLLS
[x] NO COUNTRY FOR TOLD MEN
[x] 24 CARAT TOLD
[x] ONLY SHOOTING STARS BREAKTHE TOLD
[x] GOING ONCE… GOING TWICE… TOLD
[x] GARY TOLDMAN
[x] TOLD SPICE
[x] TOLD STONE CREAMERY
[x] BABY IT’S TOLD OUTSIDE
[x] POKEMON TOLD AND SILVER
[x] TOLD YELLER
[x] EL DORADO: THE LOST CITY OF TOLD
[x] TOLDPLAY
[x] THE TOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
[x] DANNY DEVITOLD
[x] TOLDEN SUN
[x] FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLDS
[x] CAN’T TEACH A TOLD DOG NEW TRICKS
[x] I AIN’T SAYIN SHE A TOLD DIGGER
[x] TOLDING CHAIR
[x] TOLDIER OF FORTUNE
[x] THE TOLDEN COMPASS
[x] TOLDEN AXE
[x] TOLD MACDONALD HAD A FARM
[x] ROCKIN TO THE TOLDIES
[x] BATTLETOLDS
[x] YE TOLDE PUB
[x] TOLDEN CAULFIELD
[x] THE TOLD MAN AND THE SEA
[x] TOLD MEDAL WINNER AT THE OLYMPICS
[x] ALL OF THE ABOVE

[Natirasha]

For the record, that list doesn't have my favorite pun.

JRR TOLDKIEN

[Natirasha]

No Country for Told Men is pretty sick too.

[Natirasha]

Ffery can you do something at least kinda super townie. I swear you don't have to do much to convince me ns is scum.

[Natirasha]

See I thought you had just hammered for the win there.

[Natirasha]

You two can cross vote now, ns.

[Natirasha]

That is a super lame case, ffery.

You should be cross voting though.

[Natirasha]

Hey Nati, quick question-

How could I have been "told" that eddie was scum if eddie was my buddy- wouldn't I have known that already?

And if you're so confident I'm scum, why are you asking me to cross with ffery? Why not cross with me yourself?

Because, believe it or not, i am sctually entertaining the idea youre town. And im obviously the goddamn keymaster here.

If youre his buddy, im working off what i see. Im trying to decide if you would double down on that Sakura AtE if you were scum at the moment.

[Natirasha]

Surprisingly, Toog v Me was tvt, which means that whoever the partner was is cautious enough to know that Eddie is an unreliable fuck.

[Natirasha]

The fact neither are picking up on my huge towntelling this game is disheartening.

I even drew a picture.

[Natirasha]

I just wanna say I wish I knew why GIF replaced out, because his reason would make this a lot easier.

[Natirasha]

IG you have any doubt that I'm town go read Eddie's ISO.

[Natirasha]

Just my two cents, it would be great if we had input from EVERYONE before lynching someone. *cough* I think GIF is back tomorrow *cough*

I'm actually gonna put some effort in this game.

[Natirasha]

You promise to push her tomorrow after I flip town?

Which is to say construct your own goddamn narrative from my posts.

[Natirasha]

Yes.

[Natirasha]

I think you're an encryptor, fferyllt. Explains the lack of mason death n1.

[Natirasha]

Eddie would commit the kill no matter the scum team due to sakura tell. I think we all three agreed on that so tracker was null this game.

[Natirasha]

it's a real honor and pleasure to introduce to you all, the replacement for drcirno. It's the amazing cephrir! Thanks for helping us out!

[Natirasha]

Oh god stop. Every fucking time I look at the game from a town-you perspective you post something that freaks me out.

Well the wheels are spinning out of control what would happen if you held them still

[Natirasha]

You've had this bemused look on you all game.

[Natirasha]

Bemused is perhaps the wrong word.

[Natirasha]

Good thing I refuse to read 1436.

[Natirasha]

Notscience I need you to help me out.

[Natirasha]

Everyone plays so close to the chest in LyLo.

[Natirasha]

Pensive is closer to the truth.

[Natirasha]

Ns likely would have offed you I think. I am reminded of cash Cabd where it was only through my hijacking the scum qt that saved you from being killed then.

[Natirasha]

Really bothered because presumably skulduggery was killed for a reason but I'm not seeing any crumbs. I can divine non-action motivation for the other kills.

[Natirasha]

So you're asking why Toog was killed? Because, barring me-in-Red-Wine shenanigans, he was the sole reason we killed Eddieyesterday and that's a huge sign he's town. The Kagami+Bert kills(and I guess skullduggery) implicate a scum team more worried about perceived towniness of players vs their potential fear level.

[Natirasha]

Why don't you answer that question, fferyllt. Don't think you're exempt here.

[Natirasha]

From my perspective, since neither Eddie or Nati got quickhammered after I left my vote on them for over 48 hours a piece, they are the two remaining scum .

Notsci will never vote for Eddie though, so it's impossible for town to win the game.

My money is on Notsci voting me here soon, and then Eddie voting me for the scum win.

? I think I had huge motive to kill Toogeloo.

[Natirasha]

In fact looking at it from a threat level thing, I was the only of us three with any motive to kill Toogeloo outside of toeniness potential.

[Natirasha]

You think he would have maintained that stance after Eddie's flip given your part in the wagon?

We lynched him too fast to know. I think it is the case though.

Kanye once told me scum lynches never happen in lylo without bussing.

[Natirasha]

Ns please. Tell me your current thoughts.

And a vote on ffery would be appreciated.

[Natirasha]

Fantastic. How did you come to that conclusion?

[Natirasha]

Hmm? I had Sakura down as scum before she replaced out. As Eddie continued to be useless(and Toog carried the case) I was convinced to yolo on it

[Natirasha]

Rather, 'oh ns eddie scumteam calling it now' feels off

As to this, as in the game I linked to, I have a pretty solid way of telling when I'm in a 1v1 with town in LyLo. I knew Tog was town, but the crucible of fate said that Too must be scum for me to have a chance at winning. Thankfully, he broke the cycle.

[Natirasha]

For example, another thing is I know I'm going to be lynched today so I'm resigned to a loss. Because ns is gonna be pigheaded if town despite being blind to ffery's scum.

Guess what? She hasn't taken a strong stance on anything all game.

[Natirasha]

Actually fuck it the only thing that's been keeping me from voting her is that if ns is the scum, I really don't want him to win, but no one has done shit this game.

VOTE: fferyllt

[Natirasha]

DO IT NS FUCKING DO IT GO THE DISTANCE PROVE I WAS RIGHT ABOUT BOTH OF YOU DAY ONE

[Natirasha]

<conftown now btw

Yeah. Fuck you. Part of me thinks you're faking it too.

ffery's defeatism reads town as fuck

Nati, why would scum-ffery not xvote

She's under no compulsion to vote, you've already stated intent to vote me numerous times. And if you are seriously convinced by that...you're pretty sad, bro.

[Natirasha]

Please, tell me, ns, just one thing fferyllt has done this game? Or GIF for that matter? They've done nothing. Go read my posts from the last few pages. Believe it or not, I was constructing a narrative there.

[Natirasha]

Why would I fake it that's bloody stupid

And you're going to have to do better than that if you want me to vote her, js. "She hasn't had a strong read all game" okay that's swell why does that make her scum

I know, >burden of proficiency, but do you really think ffery is capable of being this atrophied as town? Its not even just that, she hasnt offered her opinions on shit, mostly just--get this--vetting her questions and stances through Bert, Kagami and I. Then, when Red Wine was finished, she's his behind that to refuse me any sort of real read.

>Why was Toog killed? Because ffery thought my vote switch would have signalled I was town to Toog. Also to frame me because I was the one person he had expressed a scumread on.

[Natirasha]

Starting at which page?

Page 87. Moreover, look at her iso links today--no analysis, no divining intent. She just links them pretending they do something.

[Natirasha]

The Calvin and Hobbes LYLO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5141623

I don't know specifically about this game, but we hydra'd in a game where he just didn't have the time to play. He's not signing up for new games atm afaik.

Found this Eddie LYLO: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4916028

Still looking.

[Natirasha]

>Why was Toog killed? Because ffery thought my vote switch would have signalled I was town to Toog. Also to frame me because I was the one person he had expressed a scumread on(and day ended before he could recant or whatever).

[Natirasha]

Alright, so full disclosure, but this is murky.

I claimed masons with you because I felt your early interactions with Sakura Hana indicated you were town. If you remember right, I had you down as super scum. I needed a convenient out to my change of heart, and I felt given the player list, I wouldn't be able to come out and say I thought you were town now without putting my neck on the line. Additionally, I was thinking back to Lucid Dreamers where my fakemason gambit ended up working out really well and clearing both SSK and my slot, so I tried my luck again.

Swing and a miss I say, although I think it was beneficial for keeping activity up.

[Natirasha]

Fuck if I remember at this time.

[Natirasha]

NOTSCIENCE.

If you have no more questions, END THIS.

[Natirasha]

Why are you trying to rush me

Because you're not doing anything. If you actually want to do something, do something.

[Natirasha]

Nati, explain the lack of a quickhammer on you after Toog voted you yesterday.

...you understand who EddieFenix is, right? Like, say what you will, but he makes MafiaSSK look like a reliable, quality poster(<3 SSK). Since everyone was waiting for the quickhammer, it was in fferyllt's best interest to stay off the wagon til Eddie got there. Thankfully, he was so slow to react that by the time he got there, we were able to interupt the quickhammer.

[Natirasha]

Actually town, ns. Good job.

[Natirasha]

I'll let Cabd or someone tell you how obvious fferyllt was once Bulbs does the denounment.

[Natirasha]

You can't read either of us apparently.