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>Quoting of role PMs (aside from, y'know, names and QTs) is entirely fine, since examples have been supplied

Wait, where?

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>Quoting of role PMs (aside from, y'know, names and QTs) is entirely fine, since examples have been supplied

Wait, where?

You didn't get the "you are a townie" PM with examples of roles?

I got

my

role

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Mutiny against the captain!

VOTE: Albert

Mutinies abroad!

VOTE: Albert

Tell me, captain, who do you think should be your second in command?

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VOTE: T S O for the weird spaces in his name.

What does it mean, except for names? We can quote our whole PM except for our flavor name?

I believe this means if you are mafia, feel free to quote your pm- just don't include QT link or other mafia member's names. Same would apply to any such masons, neighbors, etc.

Wait, what are the roles in this game? I didn't get that information!

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I feel like I am being fucked with

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I am so fucking confused right now

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Well... Whatever

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You said examples had been supplied, I have not heard of this, nor have I seen any supplied examples

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You said examples had been supplied, I have not heard of this, nor have I seen any supplied examples

Specifically, I copied and pasted the rule-set from Newbie 1266, which uses a semi-open set-up and thus has all the potential role PMs listed in the opening post. This game has a closed set-up. I forgot to amend the rules. They have been corrected now.

OH, ok, I'm sorry, I thought I had been playing with less information than had been given to others. Thank you for clarifying

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I'm aborting the mutiny. Anatole has no profile picture, and wishes to remain anonymous.

VOTE: Anatole

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Espresso + Paschendale are mafia

2 down already, yall are making this too easy.

Why do you think I'm scum?

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Espresso + Paschendale are mafia

2 down already, yall are making this too easy.

Why do you think I'm scum?

3 reasons:
a) trying really hard to see PR descriptions
b) fourth vote on a wagon on a townie
3) asking why I think you're scum

Ok:

1) I was confused by the rules posting. I'm new, gimme a break.
2) How can you prove that they're town?
c) What?

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Do you quarrel sir?

Quarrel, sir? No, sir!

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Espresso + Paschendale are mafia

2 down already, yall are making this too easy.

Why do you think I'm scum?

3 reasons:
a) trying really hard to see PR descriptions
b) fourth vote on a wagon on a townie
3) asking why I think you're scum

Ok:

1) I was confused by the rules posting. I'm new, gimme a break.
2) How can you prove that they're town?
c) What?

I) Take some time to think about why it's not a good idea for town members to open their bag of surprises and invite the mafia to look in. It's typically considered scummy behavior to speculate on power roles because they are the best weapon the town has and we typically want the mafia to be as ignorant as possible to those roles. I'll buy that you're new, but you have to understand it's still suspicious.
II) I've read my PM. No, I'm not quoting it to you.
tres) this was half-joking, but I found it interesting that as a curious scumhunter you didn't care at all about my reasons for suspecting Paschendale. ie. you asked why I thought YOU were scum, not both people I named. Townies should be more interested in figuring out why other people could be scum, not why they are acting scummy, since they know of their own innocence, especially if there's not even a strong effort against them to lynch

uno) I wasn't asking for everybody to reveal their information. It was a misunderstanding, as I thought role examples had been told to everybody. And then people fucked with me.
dos) I'm not going to ask you to, but that still doesn't convince me you know who's town unless you're scum yourself.
III) Pasch plays fairly scummily. On the off-chance that he IS scum, I don't want myself associated with him, thusly I refrained from saying "Why do you think

we're

scum?" Now that you're so invested, please, indulge the crew as to why you think Pasch is scum.

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5. I bite my thumb at Belisarius.

Ok, so, I'm loving the Shakespeare quotes, but in real fuckin life I'm performing Romeo and Juliet so this is pretty funny for me. We open in a week.

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I'm voting Espresso right now, and Espresso's personality or playstyle hasn't been viewed by negative, by, well, anyone, so where exactly are you coming from here?

Then why do you suppose that nearly everyone is calling me scum?

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I'm voting you for what I feel was over-the-top fake confusion.

This is my second game. My first hasn't even gotten past day 1. That confusion was real and if everybody's calling me scum because they thought I was faking it, then that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Do you feel you're being attacked for your playstyle?

I know

I

do. It's been happening in every single game I've been in so far.

ALL 3.

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I'm voting you for what I feel was over-the-top fake confusion.

This is my second game. My first hasn't even gotten past day 1. That confusion was real and if everybody's calling me scum because they thought I was faking it, then that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Do you disagree that my reasons for voting you, aside from your confusion about the role PMs being displayed are valid?

From my understanding, you're only really voting me because I RVS'd, and I got super confused at the start.

Tell me, personally, what about my posts makes me look like scum.

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Are you really scumhunting me for RVS?

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My initial vote for AK was a complete joke, but then he started fucking with me for stupid reasons (actually, I just looked back, he was the one fucking with me from the start...) and then my vote started to become more serious. If he's actually spending that much time trying to scumhunt me because of his silly joke, then he's not doing a very good job.

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Lately I feel like everyone often fucks with me. I have only seen one kill in all of my games so far, so to be honest that is nothing to go off of, but I see no reason to change my vote, so until I do, I see no reason for it not to stay

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Beli, you obviously have a reason for clowning. Wanna just say what it is?

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Yeah, I can't argue with that logic.

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My initial vote for AK was a complete joke, but then he started fucking with me for stupid reasons (actually, I just looked back, he was the one fucking with me from the start...) and then my vote started to become more serious. If he's actually spending that much time trying to scumhunt me because of his silly joke, then he's not doing a very good job.

I wasn't fucking with you, I was trying to

understand you man

.

Oh?

>Quoting of role PMs (aside from, y'know, names and QTs) is entirely fine, since examples have been supplied
Wait, where?

You didn't get the "you are a townie" PM with examples of roles?

Prime example of "not fucking with me"

I'm aborting the mutiny. Anatole has no profile picture, and wishes to remain anonymous.

VOTE: Anatole

How could you possibly think that this was serious?

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State of the Universe:
My internet is still down. I'm currently trying to use the sketchy unsecured wifi coming from my neighbor's house but it is unreliable.
Venrob is still scum.
TSO is town-ish.
Reckoner is town-ish.
Espresso is null.
Hitogo is town-ish.
Albert B. Rampage is scum-ish.

Espresso seems more genuine upon reread, and I don't think his confusion was fake.

Albert seems to be consistently reading people for bad reasons. Town can use bad reasoning, but the fact that he's consistently doing it seems like he's trying to artificially come up with reasoning for his reads.

Belisaurus, can you explain post 164?

VOTE: jargonaut raise your hand if you see it

This game is fucking stupid, just say what it is you see.

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Sure, Anatole, maybe it was. But that doesn't give you justification to keep it up when I hadn't flipped scum at all. There was a lot of fuckery being had on your part

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Sorry you took it personally, I could have explained the role PM test thing earlier but I honestly forgot I even posted that.

How could you when you kept bringing it up?

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That post looks like a straight up old-fashioned middle of the road scum reads post. She probably even gave away at least one ally in the townish to null range.

It straight up looks like the reads list she said she was going to give us earlier. The fact that she's claiming to have re-read some of the thread also gives it justification.

Is it because you particularly disagree with one or two of her reads, so she

obviously

must be scum?

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Or rather, did you or did you not try to gather more information on power roles?

Jesus CHRIST, man! How many fucking times do I have to keep posting this?! I fucking thought that information was supplied, and that I didn't receive it! I

never fucking asked you

to quote your role pm. I

never fucking asked you

to tell me your role. And I

already fucking told you

that it was a misunderstanding, that only happened because I

read

. The.

FUCKING

.

Rules

.

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VOTE: Aronis

Salty or not, this is a new game with new people who don't give a shit about your personal problems. Commit to the game or replace out.

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I'm sorry, I meant VOTE: Albert

I'm on my phone

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That's what I want

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Your

win condition?

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Remind me what it is again?

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Cool, I guess that means that you're the only town here since it's

your

win con

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Damn! I was pretty sure that Anatole was scum!

Anyway, I've been looking through Venrob's ISO (and I assume I'm not the only one) and he doesn't really... talk about anyone... except for the Aronis slot, which I guess Juls has to step up and take over now

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Take your time, I'd like to see some fresh input

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That Albert hammer was so fishy and lol

Espresso is my next jab at scum, what do ya guys think?

Vote: Espressojet

I think no

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Spoiler: quote

I forced a quicklynch of Venrob for three reasons:

1) To save myself

2) His replace-out changed my read on him from null to scummy.

3) I was fine with that wagon since I knew there were town players on it.

I didn't strongly townread Venrob, the two reasons I decided to defend him was because 1) he said he was constantly mislynched and I can relate to that and 2) my instinct was to pick the opposite side than the majority on that issue so that there would be more discussion. In the end, I didn't care enough to defend him and voted him. When the tide turned against me, I knew that Anatole could save me and I took a short in the dark by quicklynching Venrob.

^why

I think the Jargo case is actually pretty good. Especially the opportunistic scumreads. Scum like to make moves that are safe.

Which of my scum reads do you think are opportunistic?

I'm curious why you aren't asking Anatole or TSO, since I was agreeing with them.

Not quite. They are considering multiple arguments, but you seem content to consider just one.

Anatole, I asked you a question in 328, pls rspnd. 324 and 326 take contradictory stances on what you think my mindset when making my reads list was.

Venrob + ABR 2014

This is a scum post trying to set up future townie lynches.

Vote: Jargonaut

All of your reasons seem heavily scummy to me

I'm sorry, my captain
VOTE: ABR

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I'd stake my life on it.

Then do. Claim.

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He DID say he'd stake his life on it

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This:

Venrob is constantly mislynched. Trying to vote for him Day 1 is a joke.

Belisarius seems town because of his 5-6 posts in a row. A bit too out of the box for scum IMO.

I forced a quicklynch of Venrob for three reasons:

1) To save myself

2) His replace-out changed my read on him from null to scummy.

3) I was fine with that wagon since I knew there were town players on it.

I didn't strongly townread Venrob, the two reasons I decided to defend him was because 1)

he said he was constantly mislynched

and I can relate to that and 2) my instinct was to pick the opposite side than the majority on that issue so that there would be more discussion. In the end, I didn't care enough to defend him and voted him. When the tide turned against me, I knew that Anatole could save me and I took a short in the dark by quicklynching Venrob.

^why

I think the Jargo case is actually pretty good. Especially the opportunistic scumreads. Scum like to make moves that are safe.

Which of my scum reads do you think are opportunistic?

I'm curious why you aren't asking Anatole or TSO, since I was agreeing with them.

Not quite. They are considering multiple arguments, but you seem content to consider just one.

Anatole, I asked you a question in 328, pls rspnd. 324 and 326 take contradictory stances on what you think my mindset when making my reads list was.

Venrob + ABR 2014

This is a scum post trying to set up future townie lynches.

Vote: Jargonaut

No, YOU said that, also this entire post seems like you planned it ahead of time during the night phase.

Also these:

What are your reasons for thinking that he's scum? ELI5

- Self-meta wall ("I'm always scum!")
- Votes Aronis for having only one post, then unvotes to jokevote the mod, then when he votes Aronis again he hides behind the reasoning of THE CAPTAIN IS VOTING HIM!
- More self meta wall
- Sudden decrease in activity coinciding with suspicion being thrown his way (and "my internet is flickering" is the bullshittiest of bullshit excuses)

One of the worst cases I've ever read. Won't be voting for this guy.

(Venrob)

You want to lynch Venrob? Alright, let's lynch Venrob.

Unvote, vote Venrob

I really don't care one way or another.

You contradict yourself a lot

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flip?

Might as well say "I await in eager anticipation, as I have

no

idea what the outcome could possibly be!"

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I mean, COME ON! I'm such a newb, but even I can see how ridiculously scummy this guy has been acting!

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Ok, you got me there, I missed that one.

But you did say it 150 posts later. And you didn't say that he said it at that point, you claimed it like it was a fact that YOU knew personally.

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Beli is.

Mod, the game still says night one, it's messing with me

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I really hate ABR being on this too and that it is led by Venmar makes me also want to vomit. I am not touching this wagon with a 10ft pole.

Jesus, can NOBODY ELSE see how scummy ABR is being right now?

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Then why vote Beli?

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He's not tunnelling. Put Beli and Paschendale's posts side by side and you will see that one is tunnelling and one isn't.

That's a lie. I am tunneling and everybody can see it.

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Hito, it's

Espresso

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And I'd had a mild scumread on him since he'd been fucking with me and I took that as "I'm trying to make you slip up so I can call you scum"

'twas a very newb read

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I did forget that Belli had the ugly post re: Venrob but overall I think Bellis reaction has been decent and anyway Esspreso's [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6035020] ISO 47[url] is giving me awful vibes; when faced with an ABR wagoner going for Beli he responds by "oh my gosh how are you not voting albert??" without trying to draw Pasch back or point to reasons that ABR is better than Beli or etc. Like I don't get the vibe that he actually WANTS us to lynch ABR, feels a lot more like he wants us to lynch Beli while he is very explicitly voting for someone who isn't Beli.

If

he

is either pasch or myself, this is dead wrong. We both want ABR lynched.

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Here's my opinion on the whole third party thing.

Whomever is the rockman is just a semi-bulletproof townie who is immune to fire attacks. This would lead us to believe that there is an arsonist, and thusly a third party. Beli confirmed semi-bulletproof townie.

now that that's done, can we lynch ABR yet?

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Hey, ABR, what happened to that Jarg lynch ~150 posts ago? You were pushing that wagon so hard, and then you dropped it out of nowhere.

I thought you said you'd stake your life on that lynch.

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By all means, threaten me with an OMGUS, and keep withholding information from the rest of us, it DEFINITELY makes you look like town.

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Beli's not even tunneling on you nearly as hard as I am

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IS NOBODY ELSE SEEING THIS?!?

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Beli wasn't tunneling you at all. I just read through his iso and day one he simply votes for you and then clowns around. Day two he makes TWO posts about you.

In no way is he "tunneling"

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Do you have any worthwhile reads or are you wasting my time deciphering your poorly strung together sentences for the first time in this game?

Join date July 2014? Who are you? I'll forget about you in an hour.

Resorting to petty insults now.

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Well I may have missed that one, but that in no way defends you.

I've made my point.

I've cast my vote.

There's nothing else to do but wait for the rest of the players to pick up the slack.

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^

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That would make sense.

Would it also make sense to assume there'd be a regular bulletproof as well?

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They don't get hurt by fire. They are made of rocks. end of story

There is no reason to call somebody scum for tunneling unless they are clearly ignoring multiple (good) counter-arguments. In this case there are none.

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ABR FOR LYNCH 2014

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I see zero town motivation coming from ABR

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More null posts, by all means ABR

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I am willing to lynch Venmar or Jargo.
I could compromise on ABR or pasch
I am unwilling to lynch Juls, hito, reck, T S O, Belli, and Espresso

Unvote, vote Jargonaut

That was one of the scummiest things I've ever seen

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Question for everyone

: how do you feel about Venmar's 528 to 541?

I didn't see that at first. He seemed pretty stuck on the Beli vote, and gave it up for an unbacked vote on myself.

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To be fair, you haven't seen much.

You're just purposefully being a dick at this point

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That is a terrible quality gif, why didn't you just use a picture?

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Can we please continue the mutiny?

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VT, Jack, Engi

Quote your role pm

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I am willing to lynch Venmar or Jargo.
I could compromise on ABR or pasch
I am unwilling to lynch Juls, hito, reck, T S O, Belli, and Espresso

Unvote, vote Jargonaut

That was one of the scummiest things I've ever seen

I said this because ABR insta-voted somebody right after Juls' post

Hey Esspreso, what's your read on Jargonaut?

TBH, I've never felt that Jargo was scummy, I can't help but wonder what everyone else sees about her that makes them want to lynch her. Can you shed some light upon this?

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Why are you voting for Esspreso, aside from him being the largest wagon that isn't you? How would you rank his scuminess against Jargonaut and Belisarius?

Meta from an ongoing game, can't talk about it right now.

Then don't use it as your evidence if you can't talk about it

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VT, Jack, Engi

Quote your role pm

CAN WE PLEASE NOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT ABR JUST CLAIMED JACK OF ALL TRADES?

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I'm fairly certain that he claimed to be a VT named Jack.

Oh, I forgot about names.

Still, I would like him to quote his role pm, because I don't believe this. Why would he claim out of the blue? ABR is being such obvscum right now!

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lol ^

Really, Paschendale? Really?

You can't quote your role pm, because you don't know what a town pm looks like. If you've claimed there is literally zero reasons not to quote it.

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Name: Jack
Role: Federation Ensign
Alignment: Federation

You are

Jack, Federation Ensign

. As an Engi, you are ideally suited to your career in engineering, and have earned a reputation for carrying out quality work in very short times. Though you dislike war, you also recognize the necessity of it to protect the values of the Federation.You have no special skills, and will have to rely on your wits and your vote to survive.

You win when all Rebel threats to the success of your mission have been eliminated.

In addition, as the senior ranking officer aboard

The Kestrel

, you are the current Captain.

You can find the game thread here.

Please confirm in thread.

I'm... not sure how I feel right now

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Name: Jack
Role: Rebel Ensign
Alignment: Rebel

You are

Jack, Rebel Ensign

. As an Engi, you are ideally suited to your career in engineering, and have earned a reputation for carrying out quality work in very short times. Though you dislike war, you also recognize the necessity of it to protect the values of the Federation.You have no special skills, and will have to rely on your wits and your vote to survive.

You win when all Federation threats to the success of your mission have been eliminated.

In addition, as the senior ranking officer aboard

The Kestrel

, you are the current Captain.

You can find the game thread here.

Please confirm in thread.

I'm... not sure how I feel right now

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I just wanted to see what it would look like...

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Does anyone really think that scum doesn't have a sample PM?

Why would they?

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Does anyone really think that scum doesn't have a sample PM?

Mine has some of those lines verbatim, but it doesn't have a link to the game thread.

Really? How'd you get it?

While we're at it, you've claimed Megaman, why don't you quote your role pm?

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Like I know it's in the rules and all but the mod said it was there by mistake. Technically she should remove it but I think everyone should be cautious about posting their PMs. It could break the game (especially since there is no sample posted) and I would rather win based on playing the game, not a mod technicality.

/inb4 people vote me for being scummy scum scum in saying that.

Wait, what!?! When?

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In post 17, Espressojet wrote:
>Quoting of role PMs (aside from, y'know, names and QTs) is entirely fine, since examples have been supplied

Wait, where?

I don't know what you're talking about...

(I copied and pasted the rules from an open set-up I ran, in which all the possible role PMs were posted, and forgot to remove that part...)

I thought she was just talking about the "since examples have been supplied" part

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I am willing to lynch Venmar or Jargo.

or Espresso

I could compromise on ABR or pasch
I am unwilling to lynch Juls, hito, reck, T S O, Belli,

and Espresso

Fixed.

Cool. Now tell me why.

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Because I think you already know that scum have a sample PM.

How do YOU know that?

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This game needs some pot stirring.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Espresso

(L-1)<--------------claim time

Is it L-1? Because I will claim if it is.

Bella, can I get a vote count please?

Anyone who hammers before I get to claim should be treated as scum and thus insta-lynched the next day.

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Good point.

Juls, do you actually think I'm scum, or are you just faffing about because you have no real leads?

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I have said my reads. No one seems interested in lynching them. Then you were

all weird about the role PM thing

so you are 3rd choice so I am moving the game along.

Please explain this without being vague.

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Semi-bulletproof townie.

It may cause a night kill on me if I reveal any more.

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VOTE: Perfect Chaos

I don't like basically every word you've posted since arriving here.

Agreed

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Yeah but TSO towned it up too much to vote him.

"I don't like what you're saying" is different from "I want to lynch you"

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Semi-bulletproof townie.

It may cause a night kill on me if I reveal any more.

Yo. In mafia scum we usually claim role + flavor

That is a very lame claim but on account you are newbie town you get a free pass from me


All these posts were from metal sonic

Claiming flavor could get my killed

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me*

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Unvote, vote Jargonaut

Espresso, is it an even night odd night type of thing? Just say yes or no.

Not answering this, or any other questions.

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Like, I really wouldn't mind Espressojet getting NK'd, but I think I still prefer lynching him since he's being so cryptic.

Try to find out my weakness and when I don't tell you, you decide to lynch me because you can't nk me? I'm calling bullshit on your PM quote.

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For real

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I want Espressojet to answer my question.

I want to know why you care

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Yeah but TSO towned it up too much to vote him.

"I don't like what you're saying" is different from "I want to lynch you"

Why are you being so defensive? I was agreeing with you for agreeing with Pasch. But Pasch voted so I was explaining that I agree but not enough to vote.

Really? That felt more aggressive to me upon rereading it.

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I want to determine if you are telling the truth about your alignment.

And what does that question have to do with it

Espresso, remind me, are you an alt?

Nope just a newb

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P-edit: what is the"that" that you are referring to?

That's all I got.

Seriously though, I was referring to my post that you called defensive. What else?

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Let's lynch Espressojet.

Sure.

VOTE: Espressojet

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UNVOTE:

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Full claim.

Not on your life you scummy Motherfucker

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As far as I know, I just died. If so, I want you guys to lynch ABR, he's fucking scum up the wall.

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Wtf? Why the self-vote?

Because I'm dead now... Right? For fucks sake, this is why I asked for a vote count.

ABR Juls scumteam

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Whatever, Jargo, hammer please.

Why do you think I'm scum? Because I don't want to get night killed?

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Yeah, did a check, L-1

Why is voting yourself okay but not claiming? Explain

I swear to god the only reason I'm not doing a full claim is because I'd get night killed for sure. I swear to god, I'm a semi-bulletproof townie.

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Why do I use that expression so much, I'm not even religious!

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You know what? No. I won't. Just out of spite. It's up to those who aren't voting to decide my fate at this point. If you all want a mislynch just because I voted myself as a joke, go on ahead.

ABR Juls scumteam is my prediction if I'm dying right now. Just to see if I'm right.

(and I will quote that, thank you <3)

PEdit: Jargo, my personal, unofficial goal in this game is to survive to the end. It's been that way since I got my role PM, and I'm not about to give it up.

Besides, how are you supposed to know that I didn't just re-hash over ABR's claim? With the example pm out, there's no validation in any claim now.

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Damnit Jargo is seriously scum...I really wish espresso wasn't a tool and self voted.

You're giving up a scum vote just because I acted like a tool? Holy shit! Wow! Great town-motivated post!

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OK, policy lynch me. Great excuse to stop scumhunting and get a town kill. I self vote ALL THE TIME!

besides, IT GOES AGAIN EVERYBODY'S WIN CON

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You do what's best for your team, and dont kill a townie on a policy lynch you goddamn hypocrite.

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You do what's best for your team, and dont kill a townie on a policy lynch you goddamn hypocrite.

See the difference is. I don't know your alignment. So I must assume you are either playing against your win con or scum.

You claimed that you think Jargo is scummier than myself, but you still insist on policy lynching me while you spout bullshit about only doing what's best for your team.

Yeah, and I'm the one that's scum.

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Calm down? You're trying to POLICY lynch me!

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I didn't make you try to policy lynch me.

What should I put "lelelelelelelelel #420blazeitswag" after every joke that I post? Get the fuck over it!

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I wouldn't be this fucking mad if you were lynching because you actually thought I was scum!

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VOTE: Juls

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That's alright, Bella, we all have lives. Thanks for the vote count!

@ABR I was sleeping bud, just woke up. I will admit that if Jargo had just voted me it'd be fine, but her jumping on the wagon of the self vote seemed a little off...

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If I were you, that's who I'd vote right now.

I'm sure you would, man

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Well... To be honest I'm not sure. I've definitely calmed down after sleeping. Juls, I'm sorry I got so upset.

As it stands now, I still don't feel like the wagon on me is based off a strong conviction, and that bothers me because it means that scumhunting has been abandoned in favor of a policy lynch. I'm still skeptical of Juls for this reason, and I still haven't sorted out how I feel about your post quote, or her comment claiming scum were provided with an example pm.

PEdit: @Beli guess where my vote is right now. (hint: check the vote count)

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Hey Espresso, you say you self vote "all the time". Can you please link some examples?

Actually, I will when I get home. I mostly do it in real life mafia games as a joke.

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And btw, explain to me how being quick on the role PM is scummy. Isn't there an equal chance that I would have known my role PM vs knowing a sample role PM? When the discussion was had about being able to quote role PMs, I went and looked at the first post to see why it was allowed. That's when I noticed there was no sample so I assumed at that point that scum must have a sample.

You were quick on the assumption that scum had a sample. That's what I found funny. Nobody's calling you scummy for knowing your role pm.

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Hey Espresso, you say you self vote "all the time". Can you please link some examples?

I
Got
You
A Present!

Haha, I lynched myself on accident with that last one btw

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It's pretty common to provide scum with a sample role PM either by the first post or by PM. I have in fact given players full name claims in my games before and in at least one marathon game gave full Fake claim PMs.

I wouldn't have known.

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It's pretty common to provide scum with a sample role PM either by the first post or by PM. I have in fact given players full name claims in my games before and in at least one marathon game gave full Fake claim PMs.

I wouldn't have known.

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Yeah, I accidentally lynched myself with that last one

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Vote Paschendale

FOLLOW ME!

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Today I learned that there's a smiley limit

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You're cracking me up, bud~

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Sure, I'll get right on that

(lelelelelel #420blazeitswag)

<---- THIS IMPLIES THAT I AM TELLING A JOKE

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lol I'm serious though. Vote for this guy with me.

Tell me why, man.

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I want to move the game in this direction and see what happens.

I don't care about what

you

want here.

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Thank you hito.

VOTE: ABR

I've been trying to get everyone on this for so long.

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Please, help Espresso lynch the guy who wouldn't hammer him when scum obviously would.

OR scum wouldn't hammer because it would make them look like scum. You obviously recognize that it would be a scummy thing to do.

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"This isn't my scum meta" is a terrible argument

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^

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Interesting findings. Well, okay then.

VOTE: ABR

MUTINY!

AT LAST!!!

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Beli, Venmar, Fish, Jargo.

Make the right call.

Hell, I'll even be the one to hammer if you guys want!

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He's scummy as hell.

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You got a case for me, or is that what you are going with?

Not to be a dick or anything, but I don't know who the fuck you are, so you don't exactly have the cred with me to just point a finger and have me pull a trigger.

You should probably read the thread then.

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You'll see my case as you read the thread. It's pretty much me calling him out in everything he does since day 2 began.

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VT, Jack, Engi

Quote your role pm

CAN WE PLEASE NOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT ABR JUST CLAIMED JACK OF ALL TRADES?

If you actually thought he did this, why did it take you so long to mention it?

I thought somebody would bring it up at all.

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VT, Jack, Engi

Quote your role pm

CAN WE PLEASE NOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT ABR JUST CLAIMED JACK OF ALL TRADES?

If you actually thought he did this, why did it take you so long to mention it?

I thought somebody would bring it up at all.

You think that people wouldn't comment had he claimed JoaT?

I thought they would. That's why I got upset. Thus my post.

Semi-bulletproof townie.

It may cause a night kill on me if I reveal any more.

Isn't this the same thing that Beli claimed to be?

Maybe, maybe not.

Espresso, ABR asked for people to sheep him on Pasch. You asked why, and he semi gave a reason, one that you replied to with something along the lines of I don't care what you want.

You do realize that you became ABR and I became you in our earlier conversation where you refused to reiterate your ABR case? Even after expressing some hostility about not being given a case by ABR you don't case him for me.

I'm not about to blindly sheep a man I percieve as scum. Would you? I refused to reiterate my ABR case because I am tired of repeating myself on this issue.

You have a case for me. You read it yourself as you read the thread. You can give me a logically sound reason why I might want to have ABR lynched. ABR has nothing on Pasche aside from the fact that when he started being suspected, he deliberately tried to change the direction of the game. I believe he said:

"I want to move the game in this direction and see what happens."

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The fact that he keeps getting away with this stuff is driving me crazy.

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We need to have a serious talk, Belisarius. I want to know who you are.

I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;a
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.

Saw that show in Ashland once. It was pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of Gilbert and Sullivan though.

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Aaaaaand the forum ate my post... It was a long one too...

I don't have the patience to retype it word for word, so I'll quickly recap:

- I will be passed at all of you if we don't lynch ABR today and he turns out to be scum
- There's probably two semi's. NK and beli posts confirm
-not a huge fan of Myko. Not cuz he's calling me scummy. All of his posts seem like they hit the mark, but they're all... off. Will look into it more later.

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Pissed* at all of you. Mark me, I will.

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Myko seems to be nitpicking for reasons to call ABR town, and myself scum, and yet he settles into a

Reck

vote?

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Myko, if you actually think I'm as scummy as you're claiming, why are you not trying to lynch me?

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Juls, I wasn't trying to sheep you. I didn't like Myko from the start, but not enough to voice my opinion until now.

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Espresso, don't sheep me.

Fish, I'm going to sheep you (given that you don't vote me). Who do you want me to vote?

Wat.

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Might as well.

VOTE: Myko

L-1 with probable intent to hammer.

Claim time, buddy.

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That ABR hammer was super bad AGAIN.

I was clear that nobody was going to lynch ABR (much to my dismay) so I might as well go with my second, which people are ACTUALLY voting.

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scum or town?

I'm town. What color are you going to flip?

Are you really town? Haven't I suffered enough today that you can give me good news lol

"Look at me Ooh, what could the flip possibly beeeeeeeee?" I'm starting to regret this.

PEdit: I don't know. I can definitely see it as a possibility.

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VOTE: ABR

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You killed the fireproof? What the fuck? Beli was so obviously town!

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Beli claimed fireproof, why did you want a "mutual claim"

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Espresso needs to post his role PM.

Gimme a sec, I'm really high right now.

Since we have another confirmed town, I might as well, so one of us can live through the night.

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Name: Natholis
Role: Federation Ensign (Semi-Bulletproof Townie)
Alignment: Federation

You are Natholis, Federation Ensign. Yours is an ancient species, ancient ancestors of the Rockmen. When the Crystal race was rediscovered by the rest of the galaxy, you immediately volunteered to join the Federation, seeing the possibility of adventure in the stars. You have come to respect the ways of the Federation, and you are proud to fight for its values. You have no special skills, and will have to rely on your wits and your vote to survive. You do, however, have the following racial trait:

Lockdown: Your unique racial ability to summon walls of crystal to seal a room mean you are immune to direct physical attacks.

You win when all Rebel threats to the success of your mission have been eliminated.

You can find the game thread here.

Please confirm in thread.

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The mantis died anyway, so my bulletproof is void.

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Of course it looks like I tacked something on, it's a role PM, they aren't all hand-typed.

I call bullshit on this fucking wagon, I refuse to get lynched because my cut and paste role pm wasn't "unique" enough for you.

You'd all be fucking stupid to lynch me right now because of Juls' post.

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It's fucking about the crystal race, how the fuck is that not unique from the other claims

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This is dumb! I am only quoting what I have been given, and I refuse to be lynched on a technicality!

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Reck, Juls, you guys have a good time lynching my role pm?

I was pretty pissed.

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Reck, Juls, you guys have a good time lynching my role pm?

I was pretty pissed.

What did your role pm actually say? Because what you flipped isn't what you claimed in thread.

I claimed semi-bulletproof townie

I flipped semi-bulletproof townie

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People still think I lied in my role pm here.

I FUCKING QUOTED MY ROLE PM AND I FLIPPED WHAT I CLAIMED.

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How does "you are immune to direct physical attacks" not translate into "Combat-proof" to you people?

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These semantics don't matter until AFTER I get lynched.