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Belisarius Mafia Scum
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In post 25, xRECKONERx wrote:I am not town. Discuss.
So? I'm nothuman.
In post 40, Espressojet wrote:I am so fucking confused right now
Part of me wants to tell you, but the part of me that is an asshole is louder.-
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It's a mistake to putmein charge of guarding the drugs.
In post 96, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Why didn't you ask why I thought Paschendale was scummy?
Marry, sir, they have committed false report;
moreover, they have spoken untruths; secondarily,
they are slanders; sixth and lastly, they have
belied a lady; thirdly, they have verified unjust
things; and, to conclude, they are lying knaves.-
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Belisarius Mafia Scum
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No, we donot"all" agree on anything.
Venrob is lynchbait and I will rot in hell before I'll grant scum a free mislynch because a player has an unpopular playstyle. If you want my vote on someone, show me scum motivated actions, not "scummy" (read: varied from current sitemeta) playstyle.
Anatole is also town. He's done more scumhunting than anyone this game.-
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Yes. We can't win by petulance lynches. I`my gonna lynch scum instead.-
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In post 127, T S O wrote:Because I think you're falling into a trap here where you're assuming that scummy-players-as-town are less likely to receive scum role PM's. It's kinda what people do with newbies in non-Newbie games.
False dichotomy rejected. It's not impossible to catch scum who are lynchbait-when-town. You just have tae make sure they are showing genuine scum motivation instead of autopiloting onto a bullshit knee-jerk policy lynch.-
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In post 152, xRECKONERx wrote:Reacted kinda weird to me claiming not town.
Would you prefer I intentionally ruin what you were trying to do? Because I can totally do that if you want. It's a pretty lame trick with almost zero chance of catching scum, I just prefer "almost zero" to zero.-
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Can you point to anything alignment indicative he's donethis game?
If you really want a lynch I expect a better reason than a playstyle attack.-
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I have been doing just that.
BTW, we definitely have a third party this game. *nonchalant*-
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I care about alignment. Tell me, sense, how do you win at Mafia? I was pretty sure it was done by lynching scum.-
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VOTE: Albert B Rampage
Try to kill me vraxa'nah.
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Belisarius Mafia Scum
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Merde alors, this is as challenging as the time I dated a blind girl.
It took ages to get her husband's voice right.
Didn't see that coming? Neither did she.-
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Fare thee well o you Barbary merchants
Fare thee well to the Spanish Blockade
Fare thee well to the Straits of Gibraltar
To the treacherous seas of Cathay-
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I gots a ring in my pocketses because it's good to be invisible sometimes
I'm only happy when I'm naked and I wear it like a Maginot line
Sometimes I remind me of myself, sometimes I remind me of myself sometimes I reminded me etc. Etc.-
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Sometimes I remind me of how happy and oblivious I've always been and then I know I'll always be alright-
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Belisarius Mafia Scum
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In post 177, Aronis wrote:can you give me a link to your scum game
There something stopping you from clicking my wiki and running your own damned meta?
In post 180, T S O wrote:I want Belisarius dead for that shitty fake nonchalance last page.
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In post 182, hitogoroshi wrote:Belisarius, no one seems to be following you on ABR. How does that make you feel?
The night is young.-
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In post 214, T S O wrote:Those posts were most definitely not stream of consciousness
No, they weren't stream of consciousness. I was clowning around, as evinced by when I said "LOOK AT ME I'M A CLOWN."-
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TSO's right about one thing: That's a Beli-tell, not an alignment-tell.
Sometimes something pops out in the middle of clowning that's alignment indicative; I never know what it'll be ahead of time, but the clowningitselfis alignment-null. The only difference between alignments is that while town I think "I hope something useful to someone pops out of this" and while scum the word "something" is replaced with "nothing."-
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In post 248, Jargonaut wrote:Belisaurus, can you explain post 164?
Nope!
That was meant for said third party to react to. Something good might happen.-
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In post 345, Jargonaut wrote:Which of my scum reads do you think are opportunistic?
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In post 349, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I really don't care one way or another
More votes on this shit prz.-
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Better, but I'm not townreading the people who want to kill mejustbecause they want to kill me, and your reaction to my provoke-vote on you was ultimate shit even before you just showed that you don't care who dies today by putting a supposed townread at L-1.
I'm not changing my vote for anything short of you being modconfirmed town. Cop inno? Godfather. Mason claim? Scumbuddy. Christ descends from the heavens screaming "UNVOTE!"? God does not exist.-
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Nope nope nope.
VOTE: ABR
Things ABR has done with scum motivation:
-Defends flipped scum aggressively almost all of D1 while pushing a policy lynch on a nullread. Scum motivation : check. Chance of lynching scum with this strategy == chance of lynching scum by lynching randomly +/- 0%. Town motivation: none
-Flip-flops when it's clear that the only options are himself or said flipped scum; I've defended lynchbait as town before and I stick to my guns even when I'm getting attacked for it. Scum motivation in self-preservation over saving a weaker scumbuddy: check
-Defensive opening D2. Scum motivation: check
-Bargaining. Scum motivation: check. Town motivation: nope
-Had planned to use governor ability, which is negative-utility as town. Scum motivation: check
Things ABR has done with town motivation:
-*tumbleweeds*
Unrelated: Anatole's death flavour is consistent with what I know of our third party. Neither of last night's kills were carried out by a vig.-
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Yeah, I'm not ignoring a slam dunk to avoid being called a buzzword.-
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In post 426, Paschendale wrote:@Belis: I am really curious as to what you know about this third party. Please spill some beans.
My role signals the presence of a third-party who kills with fire. We had a fire-based death last night.
in #303 I was actually hoping the Arsonist would think I was some kind of specialised Psychologist and "crumb," but now that everyone knows the fire theme that's a no-go. Oh well. Maybe the scum will take care of the firebug for us. There might just be one other thing I can do that will fuck up the arsonist's life, but I'm not talking about that until/unless it happens.-
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In post 431, hitogoroshi wrote:Elaborate on this. What bargaining has ABR done that has no town motivation?
His ISO today paraphrases as "Hey everybody help me lynch anyone but me and we can be best buds forever yo."
In post 431, hitogoroshi wrote:"Hey Belis share everything you know about the 3rd party so I know what you know, also my suspects are literally everyone that has been voted for today but I don't want to vote until I see where the winds are blowing, thank you all and god bless". Pasch is so SK it hurts. We should go for scum today, though.
Or scum SK-hunting. I'd still prefer to ice ABR today and maybe the scum and firebug will cross-kill and save me a lot of work. Unless, of course, the presence of the firebug means there are only two scum, in which case I'll be down to blow a lynch on Pasch after we down scum #2.-
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In post 438, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Belisarius, thoughts on Jarg and Juls?
I don't get the case on either, which usually means there isn't one.-
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Awww, did I hurt your feelings, Mr. quote-some-random-shit and imply that anyone who doesn't find it scummy is a thicko?
It's disappointing that that shit works so often, but how is it better than lynching at random?
IT FUCKING ISN'T-
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N.B. : The previous post is meant to be read in an Irish accent.-
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In post 472, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Belisarius, I'm town. It's not too late to convince me that you're town too, and step one is to stop your tunnel vision on me.
More bargaining? If you want me to stop "tunnelling," perhaps instead of further convincing me thatyou'rescum with every. single. post. you should try convincing me of whoelsemight be scum instead.
And by that I don't mean more of this "hands up if you see it" bullshit. I'm not going to pretend to see something that's not there to avoid looking dumb.-
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Sure. I'm not self-voting, but I'm fine with all of the votes on me except for yours.
I'm not a strong PR or anything, I'd consider myself to be an acceptable loss.-
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In post 488, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I have the same number of votes as you
In post 489, Bella wrote:Albert B. Rampage - 2 (Jargonaut, Espressojet) L-4
Juls - 0 () L-6
Belisarius - 5 (Venmar, Belisarius, Albert B. Rampage, Paschendale, xRECKONERx) L-1
lol-
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Either way, it's clear I'll be getting the lynch I want, the only question is whether I'll be alive to see it. I feel pretty damned fantastic about that.-
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Don't sing it, bring it. Ek'rah skabak erg Thrak'Kilrah maks Rag'nith!-
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In post 499, xRECKONERx wrote:No, I am not the arsonist. I'm assuming Belisarius is claiming some kind of firefighter role.
Nope, I'm claiming fuck you, I don't see intent to hammer-
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In post 511, xRECKONERx wrote:Literally the only thing that would confirm the existence of an arsonist is a firefighter, so who cares?
*literally the only thing you can think of. That is not the same as the only thing that could possibly exist.-
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Actually firefighter isn't even consistent with what I said. If I were a firefighter, I wouldn't consider myself expendable until the arsonist was dead.-
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In post 537, Venmar wrote:But I am? What is your vote based off of exactly? Me wanting to know what Belisarius has on a SK? All I see is that Anatole was burned to a crisp (maybe the doings of a rockman), only reason i'd suspect an Arsonist, and weak one at that.
Arsonist found. I just ISO'd myself to confirm that I never told anyone I was a rock man. So how the crispy crunchy Christ did you know that?
Scum first though.-
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In post 552, Venmar wrote:(Notice I never implied anyone in particular was a Rockman, and that I was implying the Arsonist themselves would logically be a Rockman)
Why did you feel the need to add this? Nerves?-
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In post 581, Jargonaut wrote:And what do you mean by not be held accountable?
Sure seems like I'm being held pretty damned accountable at the moment.-
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I still have yet to see your first action that shows any town motivation.
If repeating bullshit over and over and over again made it true, I'd be Batman by now.-
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In post 588, Albert B. Rampage wrote:avoiding offending anyone
Ja'lhu vrax?
What do I have to do to offend someone around here, have a piss on the carpet?-
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In post 637, Juls wrote:Does anyone really think that scum doesn't have a sample PM?
Mine has some of those lines verbatim, but it doesn't have a link to the game thread.-
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No.
The role PM rings true, especially as multiple people have confirmed that theonlydiscrepancy I see is present in theirs.
UNVOTE:
Yeah, a sample role PM may have been provided to scum, maybe one was meant to be in the OP, maybe this, maybe that, maybe the other thing. My gut's telling me it's real.
I'm a bit alarmed by how quickly Juls had an explanation for how realistic that role PM is, though.-
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In post 684, Perfect Chaos wrote:That is very very banned
Remember Con Mafia?
If a mod can suspend the ongoing game rule, a mod can suspend any game-related rule.
I don't like it, because I understand the reasons that quoting role PMs is typically not allowed, and I won't be quoting my own, but it's modconfirmed legal now.-
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Yeah, Reck isn't getting lynched.
Not interested in Espresso either.
ABR, I still don't think you faked your role PM quote but for the love of fuck could you stop being so goddamn anti-town? Vote for scum, not for failure to do what you tell them to.-
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VOTE: Juls
I've had enough time to think it over and I still think she was way too quick with the sample PM hypothesis.
In post 811, Espressojet wrote:In post 810, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If I were you, that's who I'd vote right now.
I'm sure you would, man
Well, then, can I interest you in a Juls lynch?-
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In post 814, Juls wrote:Okie dokie. I will try not to be quick in the future? Cause knowing your role PM is scummy.
Knowing your role PM has fuck all to do with what I'm pushing. Hypothesising that scum have sample role PMs/fakeclaims in full role PM format without needing any time to think about it does.
Your reaction to my vote sure as hell doesn't ease my mind any. Putting words (lies) in another player's mouth is scummy. Pointing out what is scummy about yourself is scummy (I've done it as scum and got attacked by a scumbuddy for it).
Bringing up SUPREME2 also pings my scumdar because of fucking course you wouldn't play the exact same way in 2 back to back scumgames against the same player, so why would a townie want to foment that WIFOM?
And of course jumping on a policy lynch for a self vote eliminates accountability for the flip. I love the fact that I'm using an attack that was levelled against me.-
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Also, #412 tells me Reck's not the SK, since the same argument could be applied against him and a SK wouldn't want to start that conversation. Maybe hito, though.-
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Not hammering antitown when we could have scum instead, not when we have a perfect lynch record.-
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In post 912, Formerfish wrote:In post 684, Belisarius wrote:In post 684, Perfect Chaos wrote:That is very very banned
Remember Con Mafia?
If a mod can suspend the ongoing game rule, a mod can suspend any game-related rule.
I don't like it, because I understand the reasons that quoting role PMs is typically not allowed, and I won't be quoting my own, but it's modconfirmed legal now.
If its modconfirmed legal to do, why would you not post your role pm? That seems sillily obstinate.
The funny part is, you just quoted me answering that question:
I don't like it, because I understand the reasons that quoting role PMs is typically not allowed-
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In post 919, Formerfish wrote:Because it goes against the spirit of the game?
YES
In post 919, Formerfish wrote:And do you have any issue with Espresso claiming the same thing as you here?
He didn't claim the same thing as me. He's withheld the type of kill he's immuneto, which is not necessarily the same as mine, and I approve of his withholding of that information. Furthermore, I claimed first. If there was any incompatibility between our claimed role, it would mean one of us would have to be scum. Assume scum-me and town-Espresso: Espresso CC's me and forces a 1v1right after I claim. That didn't happen. Now assume town-me and scum-Espresso: Espresso claimssomething other than an already-claimed rolein order to avoid fucking suicide. That also didn't happen. Finally, assume town-me and town-Espresso: Outside of gambits, we have no real choice but to claim what's actually in our role PMs. Espresso doesn't see an incompatibility between my claim and his role PM, so he does nothing until he's forced to claim, and then claims semi-bulletproof. Thatdidhappen.
tl;dr version: You won't be getting me to move my vote to Espresso anytime soon.