Mini 1598: Mafia with a Twist 1 - The OK Corral (Over!)

[leviathan93]

I want to look like a hero!

I'm gonna mass claim! I'm town

klazam's town

STD is town

IKA is scum

and krew is scum.

claim done. =)

[leviathan93]

Natirasha is town

and zoidberg is town

[leviathan93]

No problem. I'm glad my favorite color is brown.

[leviathan93]

goddamnit

levi is in this game

VOTE: Levithan93

he'll just be a liability imo.

Ha!! lol. I'm just a simple innocent person! Just no one listened to me last game!

[leviathan93]

goddamnit

levi is in this game

VOTE: Levithan93

he'll just be a liability imo.

no

VOTE: unvote

How do i unvote, mod?

I think that i might be able to read levi, and i hate policy lynches, and i don't think this is a good reason for me to start doing that.

soooooooooo

hmph, ill think.

aww! i'm glad you came to your senses.

[leviathan93]

honestly, i'd probably say hiplop is the scummiest at the moment. =P

VOTE: hiplop

[leviathan93]

you know. would people believe me if I said zoidberg was town?

[leviathan93]

you know. would people believe me if I said zoidberg was town?

Who's scum?

I lied. =P you are.

VOTE: zoidberg

[leviathan93]

UNVOTE:

ehh i'm bored with the zoidberg vote

[leviathan93]

VOTE: madcitrus

[leviathan93]

Yawn

When I get home tonight I'll see if I can solve the game

this post is bullshit

[leviathan93]

I've never been modkilled before and I don't plan on it today

you mad citrus?

[leviathan93]

Man why are all these wagons so bad.

Wolfy is cool though.

yeah. why AREN'T they on you? =P

[leviathan93]

here, cuz of prod. been kind of busy. will catch up now.

[leviathan93]

Town block: {Ika, Save the Dragons, Konowa, Zoid/Aegor, ZZZX}
Scum in: {Hiplop, Klazam, Natirasha, Maestro, SleepyKrew, Wolfy, Leviathan}

Fixed.

I'd rather people use 'Citrus' if they don't mind as opposed to 'MC'. Unless I'm actively looking I completely miss I'm being named

this actually seems like an incredibly scummy post.

more for the fact that i should be more appropriately put in a null position for people than scum. =/

I have not been in the thread enough for there to be a likely "scum" read on me with any valid proof other than the fact that i'm lurking intentionally for everyone to see.

to be tossed in as possible scum with no basis is more like an easy way for me to get intentionally mislynched with a scum backing.

just saying. =P

[leviathan93]

What does pedit mean?

It sparked my in Maestro, because I remember he threw an unvote after the replace and nothing else.

My vote's on Levi isn't it? I'd rather people vote Levi but I can say what I want

because you want town lynched? =P yeah, sounds pretty scummy to me.

[leviathan93]

hiplop don't ignore me

levi, just...don't

don't what? =P make a case why y'all shouldn't lynch me? =P

not gonna happen bucko!!

[leviathan93]

literally for the fact that zoidberg replaced out. I'm going off on a limb here and saying Aegor is town.

scum doesn't really get that upset over nothing. its more town about to be lynched and not listening so he gives the problem to someone else.

[leviathan93]

That's good Leviathan, but it's also something multiple players have said.

Any more thoughts?

yes, and i haven't been here so i'm throwing my thoughts as well into the pile and agreeing with them. =P

therefore zoidberg now augor or whatever is now town. for the most part. and thus scum should be looked elsewhere.

[leviathan93]

UNVOTE:

its not citrus. i believe him.

[leviathan93]

id also say its probably not sleepy krew because of how much a dick he's being. =P but just a read. =)

[leviathan93]

VOTE: hiplop

i'm going back to him.

[leviathan93]

Hm, citrus what about me reads townie? I don't think I've done ANYTHING remotely good enough to be a confident town read

I honestly think you may be scum.

THIS post specifically just bugs me.

that and a lot of posts before that he does. just look up him individually and read his posts in order. It just sounds almost "too helpful but not" he says good advice, but it doesn't seem to be much.

[leviathan93]

Yeah, im not voting hiplop- seems town to me- his early posting is p strong and i think his vote of citrus has valid reason behind it.

Pedit: why, levi? I get std's crusade, but are you sheeping or do you have reasons?

citrus could be scum, but i believe his claim and if he is lynched and he flips town I believe we should completely look at what he has to say and go back to analyze it more.

if he flips scum, i would assume he was trying to distance himself from his scum buddies but i really honestly doubt that. =P

[leviathan93]

I kind of feel like hiplop's first posts were made in an attempt to appear helpful. Very little, if any of hiplop's posts have made me go "Yeah! That right there! That's the stuff!"

Regarding ZZZX, in my mind it's not really much different from Nati's lack of commitment...or Wolfy's underwhelming presence...or Levi's underwhelming presence...or Konowa's disappearance...or Maestro's lack of doing anything at all...

Id like to say I was pretty present! =D I have a strong presence. people know i'm here!

[leviathan93]

Huh. I dont think its good anymore. Isoreads strip certain things of context. I thought i was seeing the flip on town/scum that hip was talking about but when i just read citrus, i don't see it anymore.. Ok... Hm. Does his earlier posting outweigh that vote? Ill think about that for now. I go to dinner then working rest of night.


Re: konowa- im talking about his earlierposts- feels p town- putting pressure where it was warranted and such. I don't know.

Std- dont you see zzzx's lack of commitment?

duh fuck is with this post? =P you are against hiplop lynch and now you just change? =P lol!!

[leviathan93]

i just caught up and seeing how ZZZX is not going anywhere and still think cirtus is town, im going to go with the others on this

VOTE: hiplop

i looked thorugh his iso and noticed a lot of his post are very self-concis about him being town-read by others....

why do you think im scum ika cmon im town gosh

erhm because I've done very little so people buddying me is likely from scum silly goose

lol wow... could you get any more scummy sounding. =P

[leviathan93]

Honestly a hammer should happen. like now.

he's really scummy and if by the off chance he's not then, we have some valuable information to look at.

[leviathan93]

Honestly a hammer should happen. like now.

No. A claim first.

unless its a power role theres literally no point to his claim...

[leviathan93]

and even then hes just going to die during the night because we outed him and then we have to find another person to lynch and could hit another town.

that would leave us with a town and a power role dead at the start of day 2...

[leviathan93]

leviathan93, how have I not heard of you before?

lol. idk. =P I just play odd games here or there. =)

been to a meet up. i prefer playing in person than online.

[leviathan93]

leviathan93, how have I not heard of you before?

I played with him.

He was even more useless than he was here, and he still managed to glom on scum before i did. Hes better this game.

haha! every one says i'm useless. =) its my charm!

[leviathan93]

shot konowa!

[leviathan93]

Well this is an interesting mechanic. I like it. It's good to be alive, I guess

I wish I had done something different with my shot though, but hindsight, eh. I'm guessing from here on out it's just a normal game, but who knows. Maybe we get to shoot each other some more!

I picked MadCitrus. My confidence is pretty shot.

I tried to tell y'all he wasn't scum. =P

[leviathan93]

shot nati

good job. I really wanted to shoot nati myself, because he was literally the only one trying to push me as scum. =P it makes me feel better that scum was trying to get me lynched.

[leviathan93]

Cuz you are?

I tried to pick someone who I thought might get targeted by other people. Also knowing his alignment should be helpful for going back to his wagon and seeing the progression. I honestly was still on the fence about him and I took a long time deciding who to shoot but eventually I figured he would be a good choice.

ya caught me!

why would it help it if he was targeted by other people?

I had a good feeling he was town and that it almost would have been better to have him alive then dead.

though you are right. it IS good to know his alignment and will be helpful to look back. I even thought about killing him just to make sure he was town, but i felt that would have been anti-town because I was town-reading someone I wanted to shoot.

I ended up shooting konowa because I had nothing of real worth on him and he was null. seemed to want to stay out of the spot light. unlike the battle between citrus and whoever we lynched. it was town against town and scum stayed back to watch one of them die.

[leviathan93]

hiplop. that's who we lynched.

also who was saying maestro was scum?

[leviathan93]

fair.

I really thought ZZZ and Citrus was scum -.-

oh well

fair is totally a scum response once people are on to them and their reasons are valid. =P

[leviathan93]

well, i don't like the fact that two people shot zzzx. its totally possible to happen, but the fact that they would still be alive just weirds me out for some reason. either one may be scum.

i would see that wolfy seems suspicious, but the fact that he shot nati a mafia makes me think hes town.

I think we can all agree that there is probably only one of us left as scum.

and unless we all agree on a mass claim i'd rather not.

[leviathan93]

duhh. =P we're all gonna say we are town. =P

[leviathan93]

how did we still have 3 to lynch?

there are still going to be killed during then night.

theres 4 town left and 1 scum.

if we mislynch there are going to be 2 town and 1 scum left.

but fine. I'll claim.

i'm a paranoid doctor. I switch off either killing or protecting someone during the night. first night I got two kills because of the random "everyone town gets a kill". if I live to this night than I get to protect someone.

[leviathan93]

for my second kill I killed sleepy krew.

[leviathan93]

Levi, why the fuck kill sk? He was bleeding town...


Im vt. I was thinking that this was a mountainous game. Guess not.

because I wanted to be sure. i don't like people fooling me and at least not being a little bit aware of it.

I shot two town last night. but at least other people got scum.

[leviathan93]

I am a vanilla townie.

I thought this was a mountainous game. Everyone who is a vanilla townie would have one more piece of information (that they themselves were also a townie) but the scum don't have this, thus they could believe there were power roles.

I believe that scum might have wanted to claim a power role.

Levi's claim is unverifiable.

theres 4 town left and 1 scum.

There's also only one way to know this for certain.

Very suspicious of Levi right now.

how is there no way to know this for certain? =P

I'm pretty sure we DO know that.

there were 13 of us. 2 scum are dead. there are usually 3 scum in a game of 13 to keep things balanced, plus with me being able to kill AND heal it gives a helpful chance to scum if I choose wrong which I did twice night 1.

[leviathan93]

also if you are so unsure. vote someone and if two people jump on the wagon immediately then you know for sure. because we would lose.

[leviathan93]

duhh my claim is unverifiable. i killed two people and everyone else is dead. =P all of your guys' claims of who you shot is unverifiable as well. should I be suspicious of y'all too? Of course I am.

I would also like to note that there probably may have been even MORE double shootings of people shooting the same person.

[leviathan93]

Also this is bugging me:

Paranoid Doctor

Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks him. See also: Jailkeeper.

Was your kill compulsory?

it was not compulsory. I switch off with getting a kill and protecting someone. I have never seen this role before and i just assumed it was what the twist was and that other people had similar powers. Judging by the fact that everyone else seems to be just vanilla leaves this very weird for me.

[leviathan93]

Why would scum vote no lynch?

well according to you, there are 2 scum left so of course they would want a no lynch.

[leviathan93]

VOTE: ika

he's doing what maestro did last time and pretty much lurking and he was scum. out of the four of you. my vote is here because of less content given.

Corrected spelling of votee's name for votecounter.

[leviathan93]

i think its a bad idea to no lynch

[leviathan93]

I think y'all will find it funny when i flip town and scum wins.

[leviathan93]

just hammer

[leviathan93]

and KNOW that someone on my wagon is scum.

[leviathan93]

Also this is bugging me:

Paranoid Doctor

Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks him. See also: Jailkeeper.

Was your kill compulsory?

it was not compulsory. I switch off with getting a kill and protecting someone. I have never seen this role before and i just assumed it was what the twist was and that other people had similar powers. Judging by the fact that everyone else seems to be just vanilla leaves this very weird for me.

Why would scum vote no lynch?

well according to you, there are 2 scum left so of course they would want a no lynch.

Nope, dont twist my words. I said that 2 scum was possible too.

i'm not twisting your words. =P but there is no way in hell that two scum left is possible.

[leviathan93]

And how do you know this for a fact, sir?

because I have played enough games to know how make them balanced.

[leviathan93]

potentially 9+ 1 shot vigs- how do you balance that with seemingly only 1 pr? adding 1 more scum might work

but your absolute confidence that theres only 1 scum left and your fucked up role claim is the reason why I'm voting you

because my confidence about the fact that there is only ONE scum left makes you think its me? =P

so if i'm telling the truth. you think lynching me will win you the game for town? =P

thats the best logic ever. =P

[leviathan93]

again. i will iterate this again and again. =P when i die and flip. lynch someone on my wagon.

[leviathan93]

Levi why did you decide to claim first?

again. i will iterate this again and again. =P when i die and flip. lynch someone on my wagon.

Which one and why?

Because I thought it over and the fact there there are 5 of us and I really believe there is only 1 scum left makes this situation really in towns favor.

I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.

and since its bastardized my ability makes pure sense. especially only having one of them. I am a vigilante and doctor at the same time. but only one of them per night. the fact that I can kill IS why I believe there is only 3 scum in this setup because I could fail and keep killing town like any vigilante could.

there would not NEED to be more than 3 scum.

and I don't know. Klazam's either being stupid or just trying really hard to push my lynch because he's scum and he sees an opportunity so he's taking it.

however, i kind of want to believe that hes town. leaving scum in STD, Wolfy, or IKA.

if I get lynched and klazam and 2 others are on my wagon. I want the next days lynches to be between the 2 and not on klazam.

[leviathan93]

so I should let ika hammer then so it will be him or STD tomorrow?

well, that seems suspicious now doesn't it?

1. town wouldn't want to lynch me. (I know the rest of town doesn't KNOW i'm town, but if in a hypothetical situation y'all knew i was town, you wouldn't want to lynch me)

2. therefore. only scum wants to lynch me.

3. i find it highly unlikely that all three town think i'm scum and are on the wagon.

4. I believe it is EXTREMELY likely that scum is pushing for my lynch to happen as it is probably the only way to save themselves and they fear my protection ability tonight.

5. therefore if you are town. I hope you are not on my wagon right now. or hammer me if you are town.

[leviathan93]

klazam is the only one I guess I believe is town even though its the opposite of what i feel. but i'm making a stance that he's town.

[leviathan93]

I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.

ika claimed D1 unprompted.

You claimed 781.

Wolfy claimed 783

Klazam claimed 784

ika reiterated 787

STD claimed 788

Everyone claimed vanilla after you claimed.


Don't dodge my question. Who do you think the scum is and why?

you don't know me. and because you don't know me. you also don't realize that i don't scum hunt.

I town hunt.

[leviathan93]

Official Vote Count

leviathan93

(2): Klazam, Save The Dragons

Klazam

(1): leviathan93

No Lynch

(1): ika

Not Voting

(1): Wolfy

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2014-08-31 08:00:00)

I am not voting klazam

Fixed, thanks! -Thesp

[leviathan93]

I was not the first to claim and everyone was claiming vanilla. so either some people are lying or I was literally the only pr in this set up.

ika claimed D1 unprompted.

You claimed 781.

Wolfy claimed 783

Klazam claimed 784

ika reiterated 787

STD claimed 788

Everyone claimed vanilla after you claimed.


Don't dodge my question. Who do you think the scum is and why?

hmm. i guess I was the first to claim. wow. i thought i wasn't. oh well. I've already stated why I claimed. I thought it was a good idea because I believe there are 4 town and 1 scum left.

if claiming the only power role and claiming first really is something that causes people to fucking lynch town then WOW stupidity MUST be a thing here...

but whatever.

you will see soon enough how wrong y'all are.

[leviathan93]

Yeah i know this is bastard. If it was called anything else i wouldnt bat a eye but "paranoid doc" I don't know

you have never played with one before have you? =P

[leviathan93]

paranoid doctor. =/

you may either kill or protect someone during the night (this ability switches off depending on which one you use first) I chose to have two kills night 1 when I also got the "all townies get a kill"

honestly y'all should believe i'm town specifically for that fact alone. but whatever.

[leviathan93]

Yeah no. That makes no sense because paranoid doctor is a variant that jailkeeps. Urgh.

i thought vigilante doctor would have been a better name for it, but whatever. its not in my role pm.

[leviathan93]

You had a choice to protect people N1 when thousands of shots were flying by and thought "eh, even though I town hunt, I haven't found any, so I might as well shoot some more?"

yes. I wanted more people dead because I just figured people would shoot the same and not have many people die.

also WHO would I have protected? i had no clue who WAS innocent so I decided I had a better chance to shoot mafia than I did protecting someone.

yes I failed twice with the killing of two town members. but now there are five of us. I know i'm town. so I have 4 people left to choose from and I have a good feeling 3 are town so I feel I can protect town this night.

even though it won't matter and I'll die anyway but yeah.

[leviathan93]

So, levi, what do you think of the fact neither ika or wolfy has hammered you?

1. i'm glad i'm still alive
2. i would assume randomly that both would be town which would leave you and STD to be scum.
3. I feel if either are scum. it would of made it obvious to the two townies on my wagon who the scum was.
4. i also would believe that scum is playing it super safe BECAUSE they know they are the last one left.

[leviathan93]

Even if I were scum I'm confident I could justify a hammer.
I am leaning you being the last scum but the reason I'm not hammering is I'm not sure you are scum and we're not in a hurry.

want to hear more from ika

lol. the only reason people are leaning me being the last scum is because i'm the "odd man out".

everyone else is the same and looks the same. So to all of y'all, everyone except me looks null.

This makes it so that because i'm the odd man out regardless of what alignment I may look to people. y'all want me to lynched.

That's how this game works. That's how scum pushes for mislynches in this game. and that is EXACTLY what is going on here.

but don't take my word for it. =P lynch me and find out.

If it were up to me, Id lynch one of the people who would look the same. In my mind we only have 1 scum left and 4 townies so we at least have two days left to lynch. and if we get scum in that time then town wins! yay! =D =D

because of this. if y'all are SO sure that I am scum. please lynch someone else today and y'all can lynch me tomorrow and I will not put up a fight. and then apparently town will win because apparently "I'm the last scum left" =P

I just want y'all to see what happens during the night before y'all make a judgment on me.

[leviathan93]

UNVOTE:

ya know. at this point, y'all seem to be after my head so just hammer.

there are no favors to hammering me later if you just want to do it now.

VOTE: STD

because he and klazam are the only ones on my wagon and I believe scum is pushing it.

STD is who is pushing it the most.

[leviathan93]

VOTE: levithan

Yeah.

Just wanted to see how std responded.

I think this is a good place for the vote. 2scum is pretty damn unlikey because no hammers on either of the 3 "wagons"

So yeah, we have 1 more day, and i want levi gone because his claim doesnt mesh with everything else, really.

really? because you think my claim is bad? =/

you literally would just kill one of the biggest protectors of town JUST because you think it fits

and THEN taking the chance that you can find scum with ONE chance LEFT?!!?!?!?!?!?

thats the best logic ever. =/