Mini 1610 - House M.D. Mafia! (Day 5!)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Massclaiming is a terrible idea.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: kthxbye

[Albert B. Rampage]

On the mafia side of things, I'd like Anatole to explain his naked vote on K. TYIA.

sheeping ABR is consistently a good move for me

It's way too early for that, don't sheep me now

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'd like to lynch kthxbye.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Now is a good time Anatole!

[Albert B. Rampage]

UNVOTE: kthx
VOTE: mc maraca

AH no, man.

[Albert B. Rampage]

the person who healed back had better have one helluva townread on him to proceed before allowing consensus on hurt/heal.

I agree. It seemed way premature. He wasn't in life-threatening circumstances nor did the disease impact his posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What are your thoughts on Mantis? I'm finding her extremely underwhelming thus far.

I think that Mantis is trying to keep her scumpartner kthxbye alive.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's because every time I've asked Anatole to sheep me, we've killed scum and won the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Faster Than Light Mafia

In this game, I was about to be lynched. I asked Anatole to sheep me, and we quickhammered scum.

Oh hey Anatole wanna vote for Venrob?

VOTE: vernob

Unvote, vote Venrob

Nominate: hitogoroshi

Vote Count 5:

Albert B. Rampage - 4 (Belisarius, Aronis, Paschendale, Espressojet) L-3
Anatole Kuragin - 0 () L-7
Aronis - 0 () L-7
Belisarius - 1 (T S O) L-6
Espressojet - 2 () L-7
havingfitz - 0 () L-7
hitogoroshi - 0 () L-7
Jargonaut - 0 () L-7
Paschendale - 0 () L-7
T S O - 0 () L-7
Venmar - 0 () L-7
Venrob - 7 (Jargonaut, hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx, Venmar, havingfitz, Anatole Kuragin, Albert B. Rampage) L-0
xRECKONERx - 0 () L-7

Not voting: Venrob

Venrob has been lynched

The crew reached a decision, but the Mantis didn't like it. He hissed and snarled aggressively as the votes were read out, rubbing his sharp claws against each other like a chef sharpening his knives. When the crew turned and began to force him towards the airlock, he did not go quietly. Dodging ferocious Mantis claws, you finally secure him in the airlock. Before you can press the button to depressurize the airlock and vent him into space, the banging of his claws against the door ceased for a moment, and a venomous hiss could be heard.

"You fools! You can't halt the might of the Rebel advance! You're all going to die! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!"

Venrob

,

Rebel Assassin

, ejected into space on Day One.

Normal 1590

In this game, I hammered cop fakeclaiming scum Day 1, neighborized the tracker Night 1, who tracked scum. On day 2, I claimed cop with a guilty on scum, and we quicklynched scum day 2. I was doc protected night 2. On day 3, town were trying to lynch the tracker I neighborized, so I had to ask Anatole to vote for another player with me to save the tracker.

Anatole, I've never led you wrong when you have sheeped me. Vote chaos.

UNVOTE: skot VOTE: chaoslord

Anatole's loyalty is based on a solid history of winning moves.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We appreciate that you have a real life and a family, but begging for mercy won't let you off the hook mister family man!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you wish to claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Same.

Unvote, vote mantis

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you genuinely suspect mantis or are you sheeping me here?

[Albert B. Rampage]

For what reason?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh look we have 10 pages of content. I'm ready to lynch mantis whenever you guys are.

Mantis, claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because the random number generator decided to give you a scum role.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you already OMGUSing me?

[Albert B. Rampage]

overdefensiveness of kthx, buddying up to kthx, anatole and beck, OMGUS towards me.

your general posts look scummy on top of all that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't have to claim everything. Did you diagnose Beck?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't like the shadoweh push from kthx, it looked scummy. His defense of you is awkward, but not as bad as your defense of him.

wow. please lynch me today so I wont have to deal with this trainwreck of a town any longer than necessary...

This post looked marginally town, so he's not my suspect anymore.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know each other irl?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Serious wagons are wagons that risk lynching, and they generate both content and keeps the town momentum up. My reasons are pro-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wanted to see if she was nervous enough to claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote DDD

I find his last post very scummy. There are similar qualities to it as DLA-scum in BrBa.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think that your posts are fine-tuned to strike a balance that you think would gain town favor while keeping you on the offensive. You sound like scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not voting you because you're on the offensive. It's because of how you try to position yourself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

DDD appears to be scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Excuses

[Albert B. Rampage]

mantis wanna vote DDD with us?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Great. DDD it is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think we're trudging in the right direction.

Mod: Vote count?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I haven't read enough individual ISO's yet to feel like putting him at Lynch -1.

Can we get your judgment by Sunday?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe it would be appropriate for you to claim your role and abilities.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's refusal to claim. Hammer away.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The only thing that would make me unvote you right now DDD is an honest claim. I don't see why you would refuse to do it if you were reasonable town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

For me, DDD hasn't done enough townie things to balance out the negative things that makes us want to lynch him. I don't think there's sufficient evidence to point to DDD as significantly scum, but he's turned down the chance to prove himself, so I'm not sure what to do except wait until one of two things happen, either a claim or a hammer. If he claims something believable, I'll likely unvote DDD and try to get more discussion from this day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

pending a claim

[Albert B. Rampage]

DDD did you use any abilities to save Beck?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: DDD

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote DDD, vote Jingle

[Albert B. Rampage]

My top two suspects right now are mantis and Jingle. DDD has a chance to flip things around if he comes up with accurate reads.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wolfy I want to get a read on you, can you provide your thoughts regarding alignment on each player other than yourself in this game?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You should just vote Jingle then since he's at the top of your scum list. It's good for pressure.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do we lynch mantis, DDD or Jingle? Are there any other serious candidates?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm going to go back to DDD at the end of today. He had a chance to claim and didn't take it. I can't risk lynching Jingle or Mantis so close to deadline if they are a PR it may be too late to divert the bandwagon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anatole isn't a serious bandwagon today, give it up guys, it's not happening.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Doesn't kthx strike you as a convenient scapegoat?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jingle is still the best lynch IMO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Forget about everything I've said in this game.

Unvote, vote Bert

Anatole, sheep me to greatness.

[Albert B. Rampage]

mantis, sheep me hard and fast. Beck, if you change your mind, you're welcome to join this bandwagon. Bert is raising too many red flags at once. I can't continue this game without acting on it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Beck. It's me. Trust me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jingle, let's say it's less than 12 hours to deadline and the lynch is between you and Bert. Do you self-vote, do you vote for Bert, or do you cross your fingers that you both live?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think that you would pick B, and I would support that decision 100%.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: anatole


i think DDD is town.

maybe scum - bert, shadow and mc maraca cause i'm annoyed with their non readability .. that and what i said before to mala in post 467
town - albert, rogue, beck, kthx

MANTIS VOTE FOR BERT

[Albert B. Rampage]

Bert has displayed too many scumtells for me to ignore it at this point. Find me any scum game that Bert has been in and I will quickly run through how I know.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You sure bert is a better lynch than jingle, albert?

100%

[Albert B. Rampage]

No hydras please

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not making a meta case on Bert but you are making a meta defense that he "wouldn't look like he's scumhunting like this if he were scum", and I fundamentally disagree with you there because I think that's exactly what he would do. "He appears to be looking for scum". That's one of the red flags.

I'm going to ask you to place a vote on Bert at this precarious junction where your own presence and voice in this game can be snuffed out with a well-coordinated scum team.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jingle, save me the trouble and do this for me please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

When I look carefully at Bert's posts, they are crafted in a way to keep his head above water. He's spoon-feeding us his thoughts in measured mouthfuls while we’re distracted with kthx, DDD, and yourself. I know he’s doing this because I’ve seen it many times with other players and I’ve been in this situation too many times. I know that he’s scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's fine. Keep going guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't waver.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mantis, Wolfy, everyone else, finish him off guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

2 hours to deadline, L-1 and hammer please.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Thanks for lynching our neurologist instead of a vanilla townie guys.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Rogue

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote: ddd

[Albert B. Rampage]

claim

[Albert B. Rampage]

Claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town loves being stonewalled by lack of claims.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I want him to claim. I can tell if its honest or not.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You were run up yesterday and you are run up today again, can you please claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you claim, I will move on if I believe you. That's the deal.

[Albert B. Rampage]

With Bert, about 36 hours to deadline, we might as well have lynched the VT. Instead you guys chose to lynch mantis who was a town PR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think that you're stonewalling the progress of the game. The result of this yesterday was that we bandwagonned Bert and lynched mantis in a rush. It's better to remove you from the game at this point.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Right now, you and Beck are about equally scummy to me. If you claim, you're giving me room to evaluate my options. If you decide to just be stubborn, with two people who say "consider my vote on DDD" and you at L-2, it's unwise for you to hold your claim if town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And I think you're stonewalling the progress of the game by pushing down a dead end and insisting on a claim that you know I'm being stubborn about.

I let you off yesterday, today you make concessions or die.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Then why did you unvote this scumbag?

[Albert B. Rampage]

When you have a buddy that a significant portion of the town thinks is scum, you tend to plan a bus the night before.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah me and all of my scumbuddies.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I do, but I'm unwilling to distract from the DDD wagon.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's cognitive dissonance because he keeps his vote on DDD while voicing major concerns. Let's see what he posts next.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We assert that you will reliably get lynched without a claim

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's fine, I'm not going anywhere.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anatole are you scum?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who do you think scum is right now?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: Anatole

[Albert B. Rampage]

Beck what do you think of Anatole being today's lynch?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anatole's play is puzzling as town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Isn't that what Shadoweh is doing? You can't fault people for voting for popular wagons...popular wagons by definition have a lot of players on them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's voting popular wagons with reservations. When was the last time you lynched someone as town and preceded it with "guys i don't know about this?"

I see town do that every game. They're just being honest. It's a null tell.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Some games I just wish that I was a vig.

[Albert B. Rampage]

so we would have at least 3 dead townies that you supported lynching even faster?

This post proves that he knows that I'm town.

He is 100% scum.

Lynch him right away.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're caught. You don't have to reply to every post I make anymore. It's over.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Anyone who reads the interaction between 737 and 738 can form their own opinion.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm Dr Cuddy you idiots. Way to pull a claim for a literally zero cased bullshit wagon.

Morons.

You'll prolly let scum lynch me today like you lynched a PR day 1.

What are your abilities if any?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you have any abilities?

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are flavor doctors. Some players have diagnosis abilities (mantis, for example)

[Albert B. Rampage]

WOW. DUDE JUST REFUSED TO CLAIM HIS ABILITY ON HIS LAST POST.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So kthx officially claims PR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You guys should unvote imo.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever, I'm voting for Anatole

[Albert B. Rampage]

I still think it's Anatole. But DDD should claim if he wants to avoid getting lynched.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Deadline is approaching. What do you guys want to do?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I simply think that out of all the suboptimal options available, your lynch happens to be the least bad. I'm reluctantly placing my vote on you, and listening to any good cases that might appear that I happen to agree with. So far, there are none. I don't see kthx as scum. We've already gone down the DDD road. My vote is on you for lack of anyone convincing me of anything better.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you want to debate somebody, go for MC.

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx is definitely town. DDD, what do you think about lynching Jingle or Anatole?

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx don't vote for DDD, vote for Anatole.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote DDD

You make too much sense, it hurts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

DDD can either vote for Anatole or die, I don't care at this point.

[Albert B. Rampage]

DDD, would you like to claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

DDD CLAIM

[Albert B. Rampage]

Accurate setup speculation doesn't make you town. It doesn't make Jingle town. And I do think there are scum diagnosticians.

[Albert B. Rampage]

35min DDD

[Albert B. Rampage]

You best pray that Beck shows up in the next 30 minutes to ask you to claim then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll also give you another way out, because I'm generous. If you claim, I will move my vote to Jingle for a compromise lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

smh you shouldn't have hammered. I will never trust your false warnings again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If DDD flips green, it's definitely Anatole/ika scum team.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There was no reason to hammer unless you're scum protecting Anatole. You're not trying to figure things out, you're just trying to get town lynched. If DDD flips red, you're off the hook, but if not you are going to pay for this.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If he's town, DDD's refusal to claim at L-1 with intent to hammer is just bad play on his part. He probably needs to take a break from mafia. Scum most likely thought that they could easily use him as a pawn to move them deeper into the game, because he is uncooperative with a lot of town players and doesn't want to back down. Getting rid of DDD might remove a pawn from the scum's hands, but we have to make use of our next kills, and most likely gamble a bit by not curing the randomly chosen player to get sick tomorrow. We need more kills to even things up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I wanted DDD to claim. I was flip flopping on his alignment a lot. He doesn't share the same views as I do. He required more pressure to get a read on him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're dead tomorrow.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You will kill me tonight and that's fine, but you're dead tomorrow ika.

[Albert B. Rampage]

the fact hes not even giving out last reads or anything is kinda also a tell.

He said that you're scum. He thinks that kthx is your partner.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe DDD will flip scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Maybe you will learn to claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika and Jingle are scum, kthx. Trust me on this.

Vote: ika

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx did you diagnose Wolfy?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I take 1030 back. I don't want to be premature, there's still a lot of room for error.

My strong townreads are, in no particular order, MC Maraca , Rogue, kthx.

That leaves Wolfy, Anatole, Jingle, ika and shadowez. I'll be focusing my attention on these players.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My threat assessment leaves Wolfy ahead of the pack by large margin. There are several indicators that I looked for to arrive at this conclusion.

Reads - for what it's worth because there's little reasoning behind it - it'm mostly accumulated gut ...
I start the day with a 75% town read on everybody and a 25% scum read.
Nobody has crossed the 50% line yet.

Beck: town
MC Maraca: null
Bert: town
Debonair Danny DiPietro: leaning town

now

- was leaning scum for a long time
Rogue: null/scum - I really have not got a clue with hydras on Day 1 (maybe not on other days either)
Albert B. Rampage: town
Brian Skies: null
Anatole Kuragin: null with a slight scum lean
MantisDreamz: null with a slight scum lean
Jingle: leaning scum
Kthxbye: town
Shaddowez: null with a slight scum lean

UNVOTE:

will ISO my slights and vote later.

VOTE: Mantis
Bert looks more town to me
when is the exact deadline?

I’ve gathered that Wolfy is more attuned to seeing town players than scum players. He had no definitive scum reads, contrary to the majority of the other players, and places his vote on mantis that he specifically mentions is based on his town read on Bert, instead of his earlier reads list where he offers mantis as a slight scum lean. He’s justifying his vote on the bandwagon by claiming the other person being wagoned is town. Who then turns up dead the next day. Now we don’t know if Bert was a vig kill, due to the different flavor (prison vs. death), but it’s possible that Bert was targeted by both a vig and the mafia, in the absence of a second death on Day 2. I’ll end any speculation and tell you that I didn’t kill Bert or anything, so there’s still a possibility that each scum member have a different kill flavor, or that the mod felt creative. In any case, we can note that Wolfy, despite not saying much, or being as deeply involved in the game as myself, Anatole, ika, Beck, etc., has some strangely accurate insight into the game. He’s barely active and he has that good a read on the game? I don’t buy it. We can also see that the only read reversal, or significant change in Wolfy’s reads so far, is the one on DDD, which I will come back to.

I am playing differently - mostly because I have less time but also partly to do with my previous town play being read as scummy by

some people

. [cough]
Time should be coming back later this week.
I've not seen enough from DDD to back off my vote and unless there's a solid believable claim I can't see it happening.

Now look at how strange the reversal previously quoted has been, compared to this post, who came only a few pages before. Wolfy echoed my demands for a believable claim, but reverses his reads on DDD after I unvote him. I interpret this as him surreptitiously distancing himself from the DDD wagon, now that saving DDD has become an option.

Better to let the disease ravage Wolfy and to die that way rather than using our lynch there.

scum motivated methinks.
you must already know what the disease is, how I got it and who gave it to me - otherwise you'd be trying to find out.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: DDD

This day 2 piece of evidence appears to be a continuation of the cross-bussing plan we’ve seen happen on Day 1. Wolfy went after DDD Day 1, and now DDD is coming after Wolfy on Day 2, not by voting him, but by asking people to let him die. Which we know that, if the scum have diagnosticians as most of us minus kthx suspect they do, could easily save Wolfy with private actions while vocally asking town to let him die. Wolfy wasn’t high on the townie list, but he was diagnosed pretty quickly. That’s why I asked kthx if he used his ability on Wolfy.

There was absolutely nothing reasonable about Wolfy's questions; somehow the best thing that can be said about them is that they're irrelevant but it's an awful post from

a player who did nothing yesterday

. And I'm not going to suddenly town read

one of my top two scum reads

just because one of them made mean sounds about the other, especially after scum have had a night to plan.

So I did nothing yesterday and that makes me one of your top two scum reads.
And "awful post" is really funny given most of yours.

Your logic for not claiming is flawed if you are town.

DDD realizes that his bandwagon will spring back up again, again and again, and that his days are numbered. More bussing to make his buddy look good.

Do you have any abilities?

Yes, I have an ability. I used it last night.
I would deem it a minor ability at this stage in the game but it could be significant further on.

Since I'm not up for lynch and I've probably got at least 24 hours of RL left from my disease, I won't say now.

And that's my 3rd and final post today.

[post 3]

It’s my opinion that a town person would be more paranoid and forthcoming to reveal information that they have in the face of death such as the situation Wolfy was in. If I were him, and I think the majority of players would do the same, I would have full claimed and hoped for the diagnosticians to help me.
Instead, what he does is interesting. He claims a power role, refuses to say what power exactly, and flavor claims. Which means that he didn’t expect to die from the illness, or else he would have full claimed, but he didn’t expect to die at night either, which is why he claimed the ability part. If I’m a townie, and I’m confident I’m going to survive an illness, I would refrain from mentioning anything about an ability that I have, for fear of being killed at night. Even if my ability was one-shot, if I died, it would deprive the town of valuable information. He mentioned himself that his ability may be of importance later in the game. I think that all evidence points to this being a lie.
Conclusion:

Wolfy is scum, for the following reasons:
-An unlikely combination of low activity mixed with accurate early reads
-Night kill analysis
-A scummy reversal on DDD
-A likely cross-bussing scenario with DDD
-An unlikely expectation to survive the illness and survive the nightkill

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think it's probably Jingle and Wolfy. You're not who I think is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

In fact, let's vote Wolfy together. I don't want you to hammer prematurely again. I wanted to see what weak claim DDD would have came up with in that 30 minutes.

Unvote, vote Wolfy

[Albert B. Rampage]

This post is intended for Anatole and ika.

I can't arrive at accurate reads below a certain threshold of evidence, usually built over weeks of discussion, pressure, and bandwagoning, most of the time of town, because there are more town than scum. If I was right on who was scum based on few pages and little discussion, that would luck doing the work, not my scumhunting skill built over 7 years of doing this. Don't be offended that I voted you and pressured you, it's part of my investigative process. There isn't anyone with a perfect record, but we can approach this game with careful observation and skill to outperform our opposition.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR doesn't look like the scum on the DDD wagon to me. Kthx is scum hopping onto that wagon. Wolfy might be.

Based on posts by Jingle thus far, he should vote for Wolfy with us. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR have you ever bussed a teammate out of the blue for a lynch early in the game and rode the towncred to lylo?

Yes. Not here, though.

Conclusion:

Wolfy is scum, for the following reasons:
-An unlikely combination of low activity mixed with accurate early reads
-Night kill analysis
-A scummy reversal on DDD
-A likely cross-bussing scenario with DDD
-An unlikely expectation to survive the illness and survive the nightkill

I had DDD pegged from early on. Where was the scummy reversal? If I switched votes off him it was because the wagon wasn't going anywhere. I always wanted to lynch him.

Explain unlikely expectation to survive the illness? Where did that come from?
I thought I was going to die because nobody was trying to diagnose me.
My only expectation was to still be alive 24 hours later to post another 3 times given the progression rate that the mod had been previously using.
I had zero expectation of surviving the night kill - where did you get that bit from? I expected to die because i had claimed a weak PR.

I'm looking at Jingle as my number 1 scum read at the moment. Need to do a re-read but that's likely where my vote will go.

Please full claim your ability and actions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your justification for the illness is plausible, however, in your shoes I would have full claimed as my last post of that day just in case.

The reversal is here:

Debonair Danny DiPietro: leaning town now - was leaning scum for a long time

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wolfy, you posted this:

Do you have any abilities?

Yes, I have an ability. I used it last night.
I would deem it a minor ability at this stage in the game but it could be significant further on.

And you never returned to it, despite posting at the end of yesterday, after your post restriction ended.

This makes me believe that you fully believed you were going to survive the night.

Or else, you would have revealed the information you had. If you were town, you would have the threat of NK on your mind, and not leave us hanging. This doesn't appear to be the case here.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Rogue, could you post your thoughts after you finished getting up to speed?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You clearly missed the part where I said that my suspect is Wolfy, not ika.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think nobody read this:

My threat assessment leaves Wolfy ahead of the pack by large margin. There are several indicators that I looked for to arrive at this conclusion.

Reads - for what it's worth because there's little reasoning behind it - it'm mostly accumulated gut ...
I start the day with a 75% town read on everybody and a 25% scum read.
Nobody has crossed the 50% line yet.

Beck: town
MC Maraca: null
Bert: town
Debonair Danny DiPietro: leaning town

now

- was leaning scum for a long time
Rogue: null/scum - I really have not got a clue with hydras on Day 1 (maybe not on other days either)
Albert B. Rampage: town
Brian Skies: null
Anatole Kuragin: null with a slight scum lean
MantisDreamz: null with a slight scum lean
Jingle: leaning scum
Kthxbye: town
Shaddowez: null with a slight scum lean

UNVOTE:

will ISO my slights and vote later.

VOTE: Mantis
Bert looks more town to me
when is the exact deadline?

I’ve gathered that Wolfy is more attuned to seeing town players than scum players. He had no definitive scum reads, contrary to the majority of the other players, and places his vote on mantis that he specifically mentions is based on his town read on Bert, instead of his earlier reads list where he offers mantis as a slight scum lean. He’s justifying his vote on the bandwagon by claiming the other person being wagoned is town. Who then turns up dead the next day. Now we don’t know if Bert was a vig kill, due to the different flavor (prison vs. death), but it’s possible that Bert was targeted by both a vig and the mafia, in the absence of a second death on Day 2. I’ll end any speculation and tell you that I didn’t kill Bert or anything, so there’s still a possibility that each scum member have a different kill flavor, or that the mod felt creative. In any case, we can note that Wolfy, despite not saying much, or being as deeply involved in the game as myself, Anatole, ika, Beck, etc., has some strangely accurate insight into the game. He’s barely active and he has that good a read on the game? I don’t buy it. We can also see that the only read reversal, or significant change in Wolfy’s reads so far, is the one on DDD, which I will come back to.

I am playing differently - mostly because I have less time but also partly to do with my previous town play being read as scummy by

some people

. [cough]
Time should be coming back later this week.
I've not seen enough from DDD to back off my vote and unless there's a solid believable claim I can't see it happening.

Now look at how strange the reversal previously quoted has been, compared to this post, who came only a few pages before. Wolfy echoed my demands for a believable claim, but reverses his reads on DDD after I unvote him. I interpret this as him surreptitiously distancing himself from the DDD wagon, now that saving DDD has become an option.

Better to let the disease ravage Wolfy and to die that way rather than using our lynch there.

scum motivated methinks.
you must already know what the disease is, how I got it and who gave it to me - otherwise you'd be trying to find out.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: DDD

This day 2 piece of evidence appears to be a continuation of the cross-bussing plan we’ve seen happen on Day 1. Wolfy went after DDD Day 1, and now DDD is coming after Wolfy on Day 2, not by voting him, but by asking people to let him die. Which we know that, if the scum have diagnosticians as most of us minus kthx suspect they do, could easily save Wolfy with private actions while vocally asking town to let him die. Wolfy wasn’t high on the townie list, but he was diagnosed pretty quickly. That’s why I asked kthx if he used his ability on Wolfy.

There was absolutely nothing reasonable about Wolfy's questions; somehow the best thing that can be said about them is that they're irrelevant but it's an awful post from

a player who did nothing yesterday

. And I'm not going to suddenly town read

one of my top two scum reads

just because one of them made mean sounds about the other, especially after scum have had a night to plan.

So I did nothing yesterday and that makes me one of your top two scum reads.
And "awful post" is really funny given most of yours.

Your logic for not claiming is flawed if you are town.

DDD realizes that his bandwagon will spring back up again, again and again, and that his days are numbered. More bussing to make his buddy look good.

Do you have any abilities?

Yes, I have an ability. I used it last night.
I would deem it a minor ability at this stage in the game but it could be significant further on.

Since I'm not up for lynch and I've probably got at least 24 hours of RL left from my disease, I won't say now.

And that's my 3rd and final post today.

[post 3]

It’s my opinion that a town person would be more paranoid and forthcoming to reveal information that they have in the face of death such as the situation Wolfy was in. If I were him, and I think the majority of players would do the same, I would have full claimed and hoped for the diagnosticians to help me.
Instead, what he does is interesting. He claims a power role, refuses to say what power exactly, and flavor claims. Which means that he didn’t expect to die from the illness, or else he would have full claimed, but he didn’t expect to die at night either, which is why he claimed the ability part. If I’m a townie, and I’m confident I’m going to survive an illness, I would refrain from mentioning anything about an ability that I have, for fear of being killed at night. Even if my ability was one-shot, if I died, it would deprive the town of valuable information. He mentioned himself that his ability may be of importance later in the game. I think that all evidence points to this being a lie.
Conclusion:

Wolfy is scum, for the following reasons:
-An unlikely combination of low activity mixed with accurate early reads
-Night kill analysis
-A scummy reversal on DDD
-A likely cross-bussing scenario with DDD
-An unlikely expectation to survive the illness and survive the nightkill

[Albert B. Rampage]

shadowez, ika and Jingle have all said that they can see you as scum, they simply haven't responded to my case.

You know what, it's just one of those things. Don't write a case, people call you out, write a case, people ignore you. Ahhh mafia...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think kthx is town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Seriously? Nobody else is going to care if Wolfy claims his ability?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know who else refused to claim? DDD.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't get to soft claim "oooh don't lynch me I have a night ability" and then coast to the endgame. No, you don't. You need to claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know what, this, and Jingle's "I don't want to elaborate on why Wolfy is town" are giant PR soft claims. I'll give it ONE day and then I will re-visit the subject if I'm alive tomorrow.

Unvote, vote Anatole

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wolfy and Jingle, if one of you is a protective role, protect the other due to the heavy hints of wink wink role power soft claims

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Wolfy

[Albert B. Rampage]

"I don't wish to elaborate on my reversal on Wolfy's alignment, who I previously said that I could see as scum but who I now think is town"

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why do you think it's kthx, I don't understand.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If kthx was scum, it would have to almost assuredly be with Anatole due to the connection between them. I'd consider kthx if Wolfy flipped town and Anatole flipped scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So? Ever heard of bussing?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have decided to keep my vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sure. Write a decent case.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Anatole

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're right.

Unvote, vote kthx

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who do you have as his partner?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's shadowez.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I never said that Rogue is scum. You're flailing and it's apparent.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote shadowez

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey look! He knows DDD isn't going to flip town. Kinda like he knew that during twilight! I wonder who knew that? Oh, right. Scum.

ika did exactly the same though. What do you make of that?

[Albert B. Rampage]

im not? ABR is.

hes threatening to lynch me tommorw if he does, im saying "try me"

do you think hes not going to flip town?

tbh, if he flips town i would just laguh at him and call him bad for not claiming

the fact hes not even giving out last reads or anything is kinda also a tell.

There's too many possibilities.

ika, wolfy, shadowez, jingle, kthx.

I can't tell. I think Rogue and MC are town. I can't make up my mind about the rest. They could all fit.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika what do you think of kthx? jingle?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Perhaps it would be advisable to lynch kthx first.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote kthx

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote anatole

I guarantee you that Anatole is scum. kthx is town, everybody unvote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum would NEVER push a "scum don't have healing powers" theory, that's ridiculous. Yes, there was some discrepancy with his posts at times, but I attribute that to his personality and not his alignment.

ika and Anatole for scum IMO.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You keep saying that, but your actions consistently prove otherwise.

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx vote Anatole

[Albert B. Rampage]

Saying "you're wrong" does nothing to convince me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

WIFOM

[Albert B. Rampage]

No.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not your concern

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's the same as what Bert said, then we lynched DDD scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Defended DDD after what flip?

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx is obviously town and I'm growing more suspicious by the day of anyone that is voting him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx argued with DDD over whether or not scum have diagnostician powers.

That entire interaction wasn't staged.

kthx is 100% town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'll bet the farm that MC, Rogue and kthx are all town, and I'll bet the cow that shadowez is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

kthx is town. Kutner sounds like a fakeclaim so I thought it could be him, but it's just the mod's personal choice of role distribution. I'm in favor of lynching shadowez today.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ika vote shadowez

[Albert B. Rampage]

You know what? I've gone through the game again.

Who the hell would kill Beck except kthx?

It just doesn't make good scum play. Kutner sounds like a fakeclaim.

Maybe kthx got coached by a partner to look clueless about the setup.

Let's speedlynch kthx.

Unvote, vote kthx

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town:

MC Macara
Rogue
Jingle
ika

Townish

Wolfy

Scummy

Anatole
shadowez
kthx

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hell yeah

[Albert B. Rampage]

Wolfy, what is your flavor?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've got it all wrong. Kutner is Wolfy. Kutner is a really strange claim that sounds like a fakeclaim.

Therefore, my list is as follows:

Town:

MC Macara
Rogue
Jingle
ika

Scummy:

Anatole
Wolfy
shadowez
kthx

[Albert B. Rampage]

What do you think about shadowez/Wolfy, Anatole?

Unvote, vote shadowez

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Wolfy

[Albert B. Rampage]

What are your questions. Nobody even knows what you're talking about. Take a breather and chill out.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Don't provoke him. Stand down, both of you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We are the three most active players, so why don't we work together for now?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've got it all wrong. Kutner is Wolfy. Kutner is a really strange claim that sounds like a fakeclaim.

why is Kutner a strange claim?
why does it sound like a fakeclaim?
you've make two

unsupported

statements as a reason for scum reading me.

I don't know the program so I'd appreciate some understanding of why you hold those views.
You've only picked up on the

name

as strange and fake - what about the role I claimed?
Do you think that's fake too? If so why?

The role could go either way, but the name sounds like a good fakeclaim. If I were a mod, that's who I would pick as a fakeclaim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Rogue just replace out. Thanks.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't seem interested in this game by your lack of contribution. If you want to play, then do something.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Mind your tongue you rude yob.

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's no excuse, there's two of you and it's been weeks.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Which one are you, anyway.

[Albert B. Rampage]

not happening

[Albert B. Rampage]

you're the only one that thinks macara is scum, its not going to happen, period. im done talking to you with your cranky attitude tonight. good night