Mini 1607 - Night in the Asylum (GAME OVER)

[Baezu]

VOTE: knights

One of the few people I recognize

[Baezu]

what is making him sheep zzzz in the absence of posts? why no RVS vote? meh

This post sucks

VOTE: klazam

[Baezu]

EBWOP

KOC, Y U NO VOAT?

I generally don't bother with the RVS so wait for someone to do something that brings us out of it.

So basically yiu remoce reslonsibility from yourself.
VOTE: koc

No, this is removing responsibilty from yourself:

Um ye ZZZX I will sheep you just place a vote

The RVS is a stupid compromise for the inability to read people like you would in face-to-face Mafia and should be as short as possible wherever possible so we can actually play the game. Like we're doing now.

So knight, do you still believe we're in RVS?

[Baezu]

I will be doing a vca as soon as I get a chance

[Baezu]

Knight of Cydonia: LynxKuroneko, Baezu (2)
gameplay506: Flames682, Klazam (2)
Flames682: 

shos

, insanity018 (2)

Not Voting: Knight of Cydonia, ZZZX,

Mr_Ree

, gameplay506,

ika

,

vezokpiraka

, Who



Knight of Cydonia: LynxKuroneko, Baezu (2)
gameplay506: Flames682,

vezokpiraka

(2)
Flames682: 

shos

, insanity018 (2)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, gameplay506 (2)
Who: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

ika

: ZZZX (1)

vezokpiraka

: Klazam (1)

Not Voting: Knight of Cydonia

ika

: ZZZX, Klazam, Knight of Cydonia,

shos

, Flames682 (5)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, Baezu (2)
Knight of Cydonia: LynxKuroneko, gameplay506 (2)
gameplay506: 

vezokpiraka

(1)
Flames682: insanity018 (1)
Baezu: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

Not Voting: None.

ika

: ZZZX, Klazam, Knight of Cydonia,

shos

, Flames682, LynxKuroneko,

vezokpiraka

(7)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, Baezu (2)
Knight of Cydonia: gameplay506 (1)
Flames682: insanity018 (1)
Baezu: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

Not Voting: None.

Who and insanity: totally null. Please play this game or replace out if you can't.
ZZZX: also null, but interesting to note that he led the wagon on the cult leader.
Klazam and Ree - conf towns. They should be town bloc. Don't ask me why I know about Klazam and Ree is mod confirmed. (why didn't they kill him?)
gameplay - seems town
Knights - some of their posts make me cringe and I still don't trust them. Let's see how they do today.
flames and lynx - leaning town on both

Ree, klazam: what can you two make out of these VCs?

[Baezu]

^^^ can we already lynch this

^^^ can we already lynch this

I am actually ok with Knight.

VOTE: Knight

Gonna have to check him tho

So I'm being wagoned by someone who types like they're fresh off the short bus because... uh... something about how everyone has to take part in the RVS because none of you have been playing long enough to dare play remotely differently; and a guy whose first post was "yo I'mma sheep you brah" and has proceeded to sheep someone

Don't worry, I'll forgive everyone if they're

less than optimistic

about this wagon

Also continuing with this mass roleclaim is still REALLY DUMB YO

The thing that's been nagging me is the way you've insulted people, including this post. I've very often seen scum be belligerent and confrontational and trying to throw their weight around. I've also seen town do this but I guess I tend to listen more to the confident one and less to the coercive ones.

[Baezu]

Ok so we have town: ree, lynx, gameplay, klazam, shos, baezu
Scum: vezok
Cult: ika

That leaves zzzx, who, insanity, flames, and knight

Did I miss anyone?

Insanity looks town so I'm going to be voting between who,zzzx, flames and knight

The only thing id like to mention is that gameplay could be making up the vanillarizing thing if he is scum to make us believe that he's town. I don't think that's the case but it should be mentioned in case it becomes relevant later

[Baezu]

Sorry to hear that Ree. Hope you're doing ok

[Baezu]

Good point at the end of post 155. It puts that post from flame in a different light

[Baezu]

I think flames is a good vote because he hadn't really been contributing anything of value and his last post was pretty bad. Maybe pressure will help

VOTE: flames

[Baezu]

Prod dodge busy weekend

[Baezu]

Ok.ok. So flames and knight are both mafia. Gg

[Baezu]

Ree, klazam, any opinion on the flames wagon? Why aren't you guys voting? If you were to vote who would you vote for?

[Baezu]

I understand people are busy but it's really making this game a gimme for scum if people aren't active. Klazam, who, can we have reads lists please. In fact, can everyone post some thoughts as to their opinion of what's been going on this thread lately

[Baezu]

How did your read on my slot shift just like that?

And I know what you mean about Flames. I was afraid of it as well.

I third this sentiment

[Baezu]

And I also agree with insanity that we need to get our ducks in a row and decide on a lynch

[Baezu]

Zzzx is posting elsewhere but not here. He has posted only fluff. Can we lynch him?

I honestly hate lynching people for lurking because it gives no information as far as association tells and also the chances of a lurker being mafia are pretty much 50/50

[Baezu]

^^ interesting point

[Baezu]

Guys we've got a little over 2 days left. Let's start voting someone so we can get a lynch off. I think flames is a good slot. Jump on

[Baezu]

Im willing to believe that. I'm willing to switch to gameplay if there's enough desire from others

[Baezu]

Baezu is just sheeping this game

Oh really?

I've said all along that you were one if my scum reads. The reason in willing to switch to gameplay is so we don't have a NL and get some info from a flip.

What is the point of this pointless post, anyway? Have a reads list by any chance? Cars to actually contribute to the day?

[Baezu]

And btw, we should ALL be listening to what the conftown is saying

[Baezu]

Klazam what happened to you? You disappeared.

[Baezu]

Flames is at L-1 btw

[Baezu]

Thanks Ank. I will keep an eye out for insanity, lynx and gameplay tomorrow if I'm still around

[Baezu]

tl;dr gameplay, baezu, insanity, and lynx are probable scum.

who is someone to keep an eye on

Agreed

[Baezu]

Sorry Ank- you seem to get the raw end of the stick in both games I've shared with you sad to see you go but will comb your ISO tomorrow

[Baezu]

sowe either have a one shot vig or we have an odd night vig. either way, only one kill tonight. I would say if it was a one shot vig - who is essentially VT at this point - they should claim so that we have another confirmed town for today. What are other people's opinions about that?

[Baezu]

I'm a VT

[Baezu]

Klazam and Ree - conf towns. They should be town bloc.

Don't ask me why I know about Klazam

and Ree is mod confirmed. (why didn't they kill him?)

I am really curious about that

I don't like your role fishing gameplay. The reason I said this is because klazam crumbed a PR. I'm on phone now so I can't go find it but will do so once I have a chance

[Baezu]

The reason I felt klazam was conftown was bc he was the only one with a vezok vote in the entirety of day 1 and vezok gets nked. I think he is or was the person who did it. Klazam, please don't confirm or deny this but it just jumped out at me when I read your ISO

[Baezu]

Oh and I really don't like Lynx at all today. Including the most recent post. Don't want to put a vote down yet but IGMEOY

[Baezu]

Insanity, if he were scum how would he know there was a vanillarizer in the game?

[Baezu]

I really think Lynx is scum, guys, he's not even reading the game at this point

[Baezu]

But then the kill was made by an SK. What happens then?

I don't agree with this statement. The reason I don't think its an SK is bc there was no kill tonight and I've never seen an odd night or one shot SK. I think it's a town role that's restricted in some way

[Baezu]

I just got the best role ever!

What is the point of this post?

Oh and

VOTE: lynx

[Baezu]

I'm patient 4071 (that's my identifier) with dissociative identity disorder (my diagnosis). Other than that, it looks identical to the sample role PM on p1

[Baezu]

Are you trying to derail the Lynx wagon cuz he's your partner?

[Baezu]

Could you please contribute more than just pleas?

VOTE: gameplay

[Baezu]

I understand that Ank thought bins was town but that in no way confirms him. You're right insanity, I'm getting sidetracked.

VOTE: lynx

Die scum

[Baezu]

Can we stop speculating about whether or not there's a serial killer and just figure out who scum?

[Baezu]

Hi krew. Help me play this game.

Im the only one who thinks youre town, so...

I think you're town too ftr

[Baezu]

Prod received. Busy now but will post asap

[Baezu]

Fuck this game is confusing as hell. Somebody have a slip so I have something to go on...

I almost want to be the lynch for today bc I will be totally useless in Lylo but that is against my win condition...

But I digress...

[Baezu]

Insanity is my top town read. I think there are 2 scum left. For now I'm just going to sheep her

[Baezu]

Because he doesn't seem scummy at all.

Sometimes scum do the best job at not seeming scummy

[Baezu]

From the VC it does put bins in the butter zone. Lemme ISO her

[Baezu]

look at 243 (her reads list) she has a strange reason to feel who is town. Could that be distancing? That post has been one of the only meaty posts she's done so I think it's worth looking at more closely

[Baezu]

I guess 42 could also be klazam distancing from his partner.

Hmmmm

[Baezu]

Could klazam not be voting because he is waiting for someone to be at L-1 so that he can hammer?

[Baezu]

So last scum is who. Gg

[Baezu]

I bet who and I don't die tonight but at least I know who to vote tomorrow. Thank you guys

[Baezu]

The reason I mention who is because that seems to be the concensus from the people that I'm town reading: pro hawk and insanity.

[Baezu]

And why wasn't insanity lynched? Could she have been bussing? If she was actually a town PR like she claims then she should have been at the top of the scum kill pile.

[Baezu]

Wait, nevermind, I forgot we'd lynched mafia. Lemme go reexamine what happened yesterday.
UNVOTE:

Is this a scum slip?

[Baezu]

Knight of Cydonia: 

LynxKuroneko

, Baezu (2)
gameplay506: Flames682, Klazam (2)
Flames682: 

shos

, insanity018 (2)

Not Voting: Knight of Cydonia,

ZZZX

,

Mr_Ree

, gameplay506,

ika

,

vezokpiraka

, Who



Knight of Cydonia: 

LynxKuroneko

, Baezu (2)
gameplay506: Flames682,

vezokpiraka

(2)
Flames682: 

shos

, insanity018 (2)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, gameplay506 (2)
Who: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

ika

: 

ZZZX

(1)

vezokpiraka

: Klazam (1)

Not Voting: Knight of Cydonia

ika

: 

ZZZX

, Klazam, Knight of Cydonia,

shos

, Flames682 (5)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, Baezu (2)
Knight of Cydonia: 

LynxKuroneko

, gameplay506 (2)
gameplay506: 

vezokpiraka

(1)
Flames682: insanity018 (1)
Baezu: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

Not Voting: None.

ika

: 

ZZZX

, Klazam, Knight of Cydonia,

shos

, Flames682,

LynxKuroneko

,

vezokpiraka

(7)
Klazam: 

Mr_Ree

, Baezu (2)
Knight of Cydonia: gameplay506 (1)
Flames682: insanity018 (1)
Baezu: 

ika

(1)

shos

: Who (1)

Not Voting: None.

I've updated my previous VCA with the additional info now available. I know it's an early one and I will be doing others but from this, it really looks to me like who is our last scum.

[Baezu]

Reread, I don't see how Lynx's flip changes anything.

VOTE: SKrew

If it isn't him it's Baezu. But I think it's more likely to be him.

Nevermind this, I think that it's more likely to be Baezu.

Why? Because you're caught scum?

[Baezu]

And why wasn't insanity lynched? Could she have been bussing? If she was actually a town PR like she claims then she should have been at the top of the scum kill pile.

*killed
Look at the flip

Wait, nevermind, I forgot we'd lynched mafia. Lemme go reexamine what happened yesterday.
UNVOTE:

Is this a scum slip?

Wut

He completely forgot what happened yesterday and still voted for the same townie. He doesn't have to care- he's scum

[Baezu]

You're still not marking yourself green
Why is that?

I haven't been confirmed yet

[Baezu]

^what do you mean by this?

[Baezu]

Look, I think town has this game in the bag. I think there's only one more scum out there so we can afford to mislynch me and still get them tomorrow. I will happily be today's lynch if it confirms who as scum.

[Baezu]

From my pov scum is either insanity or who. Gut says scum didn't kill insanity because they thought she would be protected so that leaves who

Pedit: like I said- lynch me. I think it will clear things up for everyone.

[Baezu]

I understand from your perspective there is no difference between he and I in the vca but I know I'm town so from my pov he's the last scum.

Btw, it's better to do this today rather than leave it til Lylo so I'm actually super glad this is happening. And who knows? Maybe insanity will confirm that I'm a townie and make this super simple

[Baezu]

I don't know for sure he's townie but he certainly is good lynchbait

[Baezu]

VOTE: who

[Baezu]

^vote stays here till he or I is gone.

Who, you willing to go 1v1?

[Baezu]

Well if it's not who then its skrew cuz it ain't me

[Baezu]

Btw this whole avatar exchange is fucking with my head

[Baezu]

VT

[Baezu]

You have my reads. Lynch away

[Baezu]

You have my reads. Lynch away

I don't and I don't have motivation to look back at the game so perhaps you should explain your reads again.

Ok. I will give a full reads list the next opportunity I have to do so which will probably be tomorrow morning.

[Baezu]

I fucked up pretty bad IRL today so the kids will be home with me for a bit. Please bear with me as we do have enough time til deadline. I promise I will put it up as soon as I can. I'll go v/la if I can't post before being prodded

[Baezu]

I'd love to see who and baezu 1v1 each other to death.

I'm down. I offered it to who but he declined

[Baezu]

Ok. So far read through prohawk, knight, bins and GIF isos. Prohawk thought Klazam was scum. In 556 klazam says that he's the only one who thinks gameplay slot is town. I can't imagine scum saying something like this. Later though in 816 he's all of the sudden convinced that I'm scum looking for a way out. Where did this conviction come from? It almost feels like his whole tone changed between those posts. I don't know if the latter came from frustration or from scum that almost got their juicy mislynch.

Reading the GIF slot, there's really no doubt in my mind that they're solid town.

In my mind, scum is one of {who, klazam} but I will keep reading...

[Baezu]

Insanity is also town in my book so I won't read her ISO right now. The gameplay/sleepykrew spot is also town in my mind for two reasons. 1. I don't think scumlynx would super tunnel on that slot if the slot was scum - that's bussing on an epic level, and 2. I don't think gameplay would be tunneling so hard on anyone else, either. I kind of agree with insanity that typically scum don't tend to bus that hard - it draws too much attention to onesself.

This was the initial reason that I leaned scum on who - because I feel like he and I are the easiest mislynches in the game right now and I would think townwho would actually read that slot in a similar way as I do. If he would have said the scumz were in baezu/klazam, I would be more inclined to think he was town

[Baezu]

k I'm posting now. don't wanna flake on this game, esp not after a start like that.

A couple people is calling me conftown. i don't get it and i don't like it. in my experience, the people most eager to put people on the conftown list often turn out to be scum.

Who: Why the fuck are you voting gameplay?

Regarding VCA- not much can be learned right now. we need more than 1 lynchwagon to draw any kind of conclusions from VCA.

right now, the people I'm worried about who was on ika's wagon is those who jumped on solely for "hur durr mass claim bad"

I said a sk was also possible next to a vig. why are you (I forget who) so determined that it is a sk? Flavor means nothing- we're all insane in this asylum after all BWAHAHAH. K that was over the top, what i mean is that we al have psychological conditions. its easy to tie either a vig or a sk to that flavor given that. Lemme look at who said the above. thats who my vote is on.

This post seems really town to me.

Jesus im so bad this game.

Wow.
Fuck i suck. Go figure.

Okay.

Fuck this im just gonna jam this post out.

Insanity i find pretty town, even without that claim, so i believe the claim 100%. I was thinking lynxtown but im wrong, obvs. Insanity is also rigt on how that makes the gameplay slot p damn near comftown. Scum bitching at each other like doesnt really happen.

Ok, that leaves bins, who, baezu, prohawk.

Right now gut (mostly) says bins town, who possiblescum, baezu possiblescum prohawk still null. Im gonna read a bit more and see if stuff supports how i feel, but posting this so at least its something.

Insanity, why no lynch of lynx?

I really think he's town. I just can't see scum talking the way he talks. So looks like for the rest of you, it IS between me and who.

[Baezu]

Man! who's ISO is pretty squeaky clean. I can't find much un-towny about it particularly. He sows some wifom in 123, 125, and 167 but that's about it. I just find everyone else so much more townie that in my mind, who HAS to be scum by PoE. I also know that he's a really good player so it's not that surprising that his ISO would be so good if he was scum

[Baezu]

Again, as town, I think it's clearly between me and who. I'm pretty confident town is on the right track and will be able to lynch scumwho without me. In fact, I think I'm the only real wildcard- eliminate me and you shouldn't have any more confusion as to who is scum because everyone else has been pretty transparent.

[Baezu]

GIF why would you be happy with who and I dping a 1v1?

[Baezu]

Could GIF be the last scum?!

[Baezu]

@insanity - just me being paranoid. He's dominating the thread and is very confident.

[Baezu]

UNVOTE:
I'm considering doing actual scumhunting before deadline.

Good idea

[Baezu]

Still here. Just waiting to get more info from who re why he finds SK scummy

[Baezu]

It sure could change my read on him

[Baezu]

What did you think of Klazam's impatient post asking to generate more content, who? Derptown or scum slip?

[Baezu]

I think he's being impatient. Not sure why he's given up. We still have 4 days to find the last scum so let's find them

[Baezu]

Obviously from my perspective I know I'm not scum so im wondering why he is not looking for the actual scum or why he has no other reads besides me

[Baezu]

Im in the same boat that you're in, Klazam. That's why I don't want to make it to lylo

[Baezu]

Nope. Town here

[Baezu]

I actually lean more scum on insanity than who atm bc of her unwillingness to consider anyone else but idk. Good luck guys!

[Baezu]

Nice setup Rob!