Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

Antihero · Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:36 am

my name is antihero and i approve this wagon

VOTE: murder of crows

Antihero · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:36 am

'mkay so lmp is scum

that's cool

Antihero · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:04 am

ap or ffery?

Antihero · Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:06 am

VOTE: lmp

Antihero · Post Post #26 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:12 am

because he's scum

Antihero · Post Post #167 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:15 am

In post 45, Murder of Crows wrote:
In post 44, LimMePls wrote:I didn't say flailing, I said squirming. Explain what you mean by that "giving you pause".

What is the difference between flailing and squirming?

I'm saying that your opinion about AH's reaction looks rather off base and seems like the thing someone who is rather biased might say. I tend to think a townie is more likely to think someone is flailing in response to their pressure on them.

which one of you dingdongs is calling me "AH"? i don't think either of you have ever done that before?

In post 48, LimMePls wrote:I see flailing as wildly throwing out accusations and saying crazy weird things in response to pressure. Squirming reads more focused. Like "let me change this subject to something else, right now". I dunno a better description for it, but it reads differently to me.

it's simple really.
post 14:
>"wanna see where it takes us"
>avoids the biggest wagon
>implication is that you're doing something "edgy"
it's not. evening the wagons is the most square, cheap grab for towncred possible. it's tryhard.
you're scum.

In post 68, Riddleton wrote:I do feel LMP is town, hence why I'm not voting for him. He's putting thought and effort into the game.

...what?

Antihero · Post Post #168 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:16 am

In post 166, LimMePls wrote:Time for a meter. This early in a game, I like to denote where the more hazy nullish spot of the meter is, which is between the asterisks. That'll go away over time.

TOWN
Serrapaladin
Riddleton
Istott
***
Medea the Alien
Anatole Kuragin
Egg
ArcAngel9
***
GreyICE
Boonskiies
Antihero
Murder of Crows
HypotheticalBassists
SCUM

oh my god

i'm only on page 3 i don't even have to go on

^^^^^^^^^^this
is
SCUM

Antihero · Post Post #169 (isolation #7) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:17 am

hypo wagon's a loser

/fart

Antihero · Post Post #170 (isolation #8) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:18 am

In post 95, Murder of Crows wrote:The amount of tryhard going on so far makes me itch.

lolyeah
and you're the main source of it

Antihero · Post Post #173 (isolation #9) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:21 am

'mkay finished up, i could get behind killing any of

[riddleton, lmp, aphydra]

Antihero · Post Post #176 (isolation #10) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:23 am

when ya'll get over your love affair with spammy scum let me know

Antihero · Post Post #226 (isolation #11) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:11 am

ok well i must have accidentally sprinkled lsd in my cereal this morning because i think all these townreads on riddleton and lmp are fucking looney tunes

Antihero · Post Post #228 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:18 am

In post 180, serrapaladin wrote:@antihero: what's scummy about lmp's meter? I actually quite liked it and thought the post by bassist they pointed out is an interesting one to discuss.

"meter" aside (don't even know what that is) how is "flailing" a legit attack angle?
also, jumping on a newb for saying "I'm sorry" is about as far from interesting as you can be.

that actually... like... kinda' scummy.

Antihero · Post Post #229 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:20 am

also
,

"AP HYDRA SO SCUMZORZ BUT

VOTE: NEWBHYDRA

"

seriously?

Antihero · Post Post #230 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:20 am

In post 229, Antihero wrote:also
,

"AP HYDRA SO SCUMZORZ BUT
VOTE: NEWBHYDRA
"

seriously?

^^^^^^^^^
this is the official party line of riddleton/lmp, btw

Antihero · Post Post #231 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:22 am

In post 221, GreyICE wrote:Anatole is town
Riddleton is town

I'll give it a little before I say more.

i hope it's good greyice

Antihero · Post Post #234 (isolation #16) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:31 am

never heard of either of them

therefore, they're newbs

Antihero · Post Post #237 (isolation #17) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:39 am

oh right, i was actually being too generous:

So anyway, current scumread Bassists and anatole. MoC is null, and everyone else is town. I'll put cases on my scumreads now.

because, you know, 2 scum in a mini theme makes a lot of sense and a "null" category made up of one means a lot inthis tiered system you've got going here

Antihero · Post Post #250 (isolation #18) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:04 am

Antihero · Post Post #251 (isolation #19) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:05 am

SUCK IT BULBA

Antihero · Post Post #258 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:10 am

hey riddleton,

challenge: defend your LMP townread

Antihero · Post Post #272 (isolation #21) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:27 am

In post 269, serrapaladin wrote:LMP's meter was literally the only thing you quoted from that post... Ignoring the fact that you brought up flailing, how is flailing not a legit attack angle?

because "flailing" is a stupid buzzword, not accurate for the situation, and pretty fucking meaningless on page 2

Antihero · Post Post #277 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:30 am

In post 275, serrapaladin wrote:Except YOU brought up flailing.

NO I DID NOT

Antihero · Post Post #278 (isolation #23) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:30 am

In post 27, LimMePls wrote:I love Antihero's squirm from my vote. More votes please.

oh no wait, i'm sorry "squirm"

ap was the one who said "flail"

Antihero · Post Post #283 (isolation #24) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:32 am

In post 279, GreyICE wrote:Are we... are we actually discussing this?

Is this a thing we're going to discuss now?

APPARENTLY SO

because, you know,

>"squirming" on page 1
>a newb apologizing for not knowing it wasn't RVS
>"lolz boonskies iz scum"

ARE

AWESOME

ANGLES SOOOOOOOOOOO GREAT

all of them are liquid shit except maybe the aphydra one and, oh look, HE'S NOT VOTING THAT ONE

Antihero · Post Post #288 (isolation #25) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:37 am

cabin in the woods guy is actually p town

Antihero · Post Post #290 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:41 am

In post 289, serrapaladin wrote:Also, I hope we can all agree that riddle is town after this.

no

explanation is needed

Antihero · Post Post #294 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:45 am

if it has anything to do with the "replace out" thing, i call bullshit and rest my case

/lastposttoday

Antihero · Post Post #356 (isolation #28) » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:12 am

aa9's a loser vote

your egg one was better

Antihero · Post Post #398 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:36 am

In post 372, istott wrote:@Antihero: Did you forget who I was, or did you just want to refer to me by something other than my name?
@Antihero: In #168, you mentioned that #166 was "SCUM". I'm don't know how you came to that conclusion. Can you please clarify?

no, i just liked cabin in the woods and wanted to let you know i appreciate the references (LOOKATMELOOKATMEI'MBUDDYING)

also, as far as this game is concerned, any ongoing games do not exist

now...otherstufffffff

Antihero · Post Post #399 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:40 am

In post 398, Antihero wrote:also, as far as this game is concerned, any ongoing games do not exist

^^^the spirit of this is to avoid breaking site rules, btw

Antihero · Post Post #407 (isolation #31) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:33 pm

In post 406, Boonskiies wrote:@AA9 - Why would I act upon your pressure vote? I really don't care to defend myself, as I am
HORRIBLE
at defending myself, both as town and scum, so I just don't. Sure, I'll try to persuade others to not vote me on occasion, and sometimes even have a freakout, but usually I won't defend myself much unless I think someone misunderstood me. As for the lurking part making me scum, I'm usually more active as scum because I become more interested in the game. I am active elsewhere because it's easier to stay caught up in some games than others, and I usually only check on my phone, and post from there.

I WAISTED ALL THIS TIME FOR THIS

boooooooo i want my money back

Antihero · Post Post #408 (isolation #32) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:34 pm

In post 400, serrapaladin wrote:Hmm, are AA9 and boonskiies scum together? That would actually explain a lot.

LMP, Anatole, Grey, Istott, Riddleton, and maybe bassist make up a decent townblock.

the lmp and aa9 reads are CRAP with a capital K

just telling you now

Antihero · Post Post #409 (isolation #33) » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:35 pm

In post 377, GreyICE wrote:Did Istott really just make a 1-10 scale of scum-town and then rank everyone 4-6?

Is that a thing that just occurred?

YES GREYICE

also i'll get to lmp soon

but in the meantime, fun mental exercise

what good reads has he been pushing lately?

Antihero · Post Post #447 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:35 am

In post 440, Boonskiies wrote:VOTE: AA9

...so what was i saying about the aa9 wagon being a loser

oh
yeah

it's a loser

with a capital L-O-S-E-R

Antihero · Post Post #456 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:22 pm

In post 449, Boonskiies wrote:I got prodded so I had to do something, haha. I'll probably change it if I get an actual scum read. (i suck day 1 with reads, and i haven't really been reading this game.)

@AA9 - yeah, answer his questions.

dear anyone with a vig shot,

if you claim to use your shot on anyone but ^^^^^^^this, i will lynch you under the assumption you're an sk. and i won't feel bad about it.

love,

antihero

Antihero · Post Post #457 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:26 pm

In post 439, serrapaladin wrote:Antihero, wanna say what's shit about my reads?

your lmptownread is a joke
as is the aa9 vote

for greyice:

well
we can start at post 14 with the "random" vote
lmp very kindly takes the opportunity to show EXACTLY HOW TOWN HE IS BY EVENING UP THE WAGON
"wanna see where it takes us"
if he really did it as a reaction test: 1) he would shut the fuck up about it, 2) he would vote aphydra's wagon
but the implication here is "OOOOOO LOOK I'M LOOKING FOR REACTIONS hominahominahomina, now gimme my towncred"

people were only too happy to oblige

seeing that i was dead serious, he didn't back down and rose to the challenge
by proceeding to say "squirm from my vote" like it meant jack shit and ramping up the tough guy rhetoric

what's the next brilliant read to come out of this think tank?
CALL A NEWB WHO HAD THE AUDACITY TO SAY "SORRY" AND SHOW ANY SORT OF WEAKNESS SCUM, THAT'S WHAT

the rest of everything else is shitty, snipey one-sentence cute comments.

open challenge for anyone townreading lmp

name a contribution that was good or insightful. hell, i'll take something that just NOT opportunistic as shit.

name it and quote it.

Antihero · Post Post #458 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:27 pm

hey cabd/penguin hydra,.......

,... what are you doing now?

Antihero · Post Post #464 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:33 am

In post 463, Murder of Crows wrote:
In post 442, Murder of Crows wrote:AP here. I'm all caught up. Ffery and I are (slowly) coming up with a reads list. I think antihero is my top pick for scum right now. Ffery sounded like she agreed that he's being less than town.

My main issue with antihero is that he's not putting much effort at all into pushing his scumreads.

that's not even kind of true

and how AP can consistently scumread someone like me in towngames is nothing short of fucking amazing

Antihero · Post Post #466 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:39 am

right because i push all scumreads in full murder boner mode and I TOTALLY DID THAT IN SERUM AND STEEL

/fart

Antihero · Post Post #469 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:24 am

In post 468, serrapaladin wrote:@ffery: how do I figure out your alignment? :/

I sort of wanna agree on antihero, but you might well be scum...

of course you do

i'm not toeing the party line

Antihero · Post Post #481 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:12 am

so many people

begging for my vote

sry ffery, it's still not you

VOTE: egg

Antihero · Post Post #511 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:54 am

In post 501, Murder of Crows wrote:
In post 481, Antihero wrote:so many people

begging for my vote

sry ffery, it's still not you

VOTE: egg

We may actually join this crusade.

so i go from
"LOL ANTI'Z SO SCUM HE NEEDS ALL THE ROPEZ"

to

"LOL WE SHEEPZ ANTI TROLOLOLOLOL"

how di dthat happen?

Antihero · Post Post #514 (isolation #43) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:59 am

In post 512, Murder of Crows wrote::/

Yes, interacting with someone never, ever softens a read.

softening after talking to ME?

yeah, actually never heard of that

Antihero · Post Post #515 (isolation #44) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:00 am

are we PLing AA9? because if so i'll just vote her and be done with it

Antihero · Post Post #522 (isolation #45) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:11 am

In post 516, ArcAngel9 wrote:You disappoint me Anti. I didn't expect that from you.

HOLY SHIT I WAS ASKING IN ORDER TO MAYBE GET SOME (GOOD) REASONS FOR VOTING YOU OR TO GET PEOPLE TO ADMIT IT WAS A PL

aa9, don't do this

Antihero · Post Post #523 (isolation #46) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:12 am

/sigh

well

i suck

Antihero · Post Post #532 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:45 am

In post 530, Goblin wrote:But these are posts people should look carefully at before making a decision of their own.

I'm glad we rolled town. I was worried that this was finally going to be the game where I get to see ffery's scum game. I really wanted to be able to talk to her about this as townies, so whew!

I can't decide if I'm happy or sad that you're misreading me.

That would make them paragons of town then

Other concerns are that MC hasn't contributed to the game, and is refusing to vote.
Bringing back memories of my old scum meta

so...your meta point on a hydra is based on the meta of your main... and we don't know what it is

there's multiple levels of fucked-up to that

Antihero · Post Post #556 (isolation #48) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:39 am

yonce = hoopla alt?

Antihero · Post Post #558 (isolation #49) » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:32 am

VOTE: goblin

can we please kill this?

Antihero · Post Post #586 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:22 am

In post 559, Goblin wrote:Then again, you're not exactly staying consisten on your votes, so why should I care anyways?

moving votes is grounds for discrediting me?

DIE
SCUM
DIE

Antihero · Post Post #589 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:23 am

HI HOOPLA!

Antihero · Post Post #590 (isolation #52) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:25 am

In post 559, Goblin wrote:He has 15 posts. I'm not going to give scum an easy policy lynch. I'm not asking anything unreasonable.

exactly he has 15 posts. no one should need to spoon feed you a case. if you think the wagon is just policy (it is) and have a problem with it, call people on it

the whole dancing around asking for a case when you know good and fucking well what the case is nothing more than asking questions to look busy

Antihero · Post Post #592 (isolation #53) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:32 am

In post 566, Goblin wrote:All over the place with his vote and making a lot of noise.
Not saying that scum meta is non-existent. Just rare.

also
i will call bullshit on your characterization with me with being "all over the place", sir
my vote's only been on two people today

Antihero · Post Post #595 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:26 am

who am i being condescending to?

Antihero · Post Post #633 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:13 am

hoopla

where did you go?

Antihero · Post Post #635 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:29 am

Antihero · Post Post #645 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:09 am

more info is coming out of the "yep lolscum" players than the ones posting walls

Antihero · Post Post #772 (isolation #58) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:28 am

In post 751, serrapaladin wrote:VOTE: antihero

you have done nothing

but vote townies

all game

don't get pissy when someone calls you a shitty ic.

Antihero · Post Post #775 (isolation #59) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:19 am

In post 773, Murder of Crows wrote:Since when are you town reading us? And you think boon is town? I described your iso as a graveyard to ffery on skype. Do you think your posts meet your own standards?

>since goblin's voting you.
>probably
>well, i'm not voting town so there's that

Antihero · Post Post #777 (isolation #60) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:22 am

how what works?

Antihero · Post Post #780 (isolation #61) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:27 am

you really can't figure out my townreads from my iso ap?

bassist slot (who i called the newbwagon) was taking heat from too many scummy people for bad reasons, they're probably town
i think i straight up said istott was a townread
aa9 slot was a wagon founded on bad reasons and the fact nobody called it what it was (policy) means she's probtown
same thing for [bassist, aa9] goes for boon
greyice is probtown (esp. if egg ends up being scum, which i think there's a good chance he is)
yonce is probtown if i'm right about my core scumreads [goblin, egg]

Antihero · Post Post #781 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:28 am

In post 778, serrapaladin wrote:Even if goblin is scum, him voting murder don't make them town. And tell me more about boonskiies being town. Or were you just trying to discredit me?

^^^^like this. this is the shit i'm talking about. this is being pissy.

Antihero · Post Post #787 (isolation #63) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:16 am

In post 785, Murder of Crows wrote:Nevermind. I'm over it. I can't agree with that reasoning ever. I find your faith disturbing.

1)ok
2)get the star wars quote right

Antihero · Post Post #791 (isolation #64) » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:58 pm

In post 789, Murder of Crows wrote:The quote wouldn't make sense if I did it right now would it? You must feel awfully confident to base multiple townreads on where your hypothetical team is voting.

you know me, ap

my mafia philosophy is

ALL ABOUT

being a candy-ass wuss who's unsure of his reads

Antihero · Post Post #807 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:42 am

hey guys

check out the amount of hate i'm getting vs. reasons people give for scumreading me

cool stuff

Antihero · Post Post #808 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:43 am

spoiler: the only person explaining their "scumread" on me is ap-hydra

Antihero · Post Post #819 (isolation #67) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:44 am

not optimistic about flashwagon on boon

Antihero · Post Post #820 (isolation #68) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:44 am

In post 815, Murder of Crows wrote:also, goblin's play is eventually going to erode my riddleton townread. Right now I think it would be mostly an irritable vote if I went there.

he replaced lmp

Antihero · Post Post #822 (isolation #69) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:05 am

In post 724, Egg wrote:Can someone explain the Murder case to me?
<snip>

Vote Hypo

I like this better than a Murder lynch.

In post 798, Egg wrote:Yeah, I'm caught up and nothing has changed. Anyone got anything to ask me?

In post 816, Egg wrote:
Unvote, Vote Murder
then...

wow that's some reads progression

Antihero · Post Post #824 (isolation #70) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:14 am

...for no good reason...

Antihero · Post Post #826 (isolation #71) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:36 am

here
here
here
here
here
here
here
here
here
and here

Antihero · Post Post #827 (isolation #72) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:22 am

ffery!

are you talking w/ ap right now about how much you hate my guts?

because i get it if you are

Antihero · Post Post #829 (isolation #73) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:24 am

oh deadline's tomorrow?

damn

well, i'll take the flashwagon on boon over murderofcrows lynch

Antihero · Post Post #830 (isolation #74) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:25 am

VOTE: boon

Antihero · Post Post #849 (isolation #75) » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:53 pm

ok

if anyone besides ap hydra gives a reason for voting me

i'll shut the fuck up forever

Antihero · Post Post #861 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:50 am

how much shit am i allowed to give everyone post game when goblin and egg flip scum?

Antihero · Post Post #862 (isolation #77) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:04 am

also, if cabd could plz outline the meta case against me a little more that would be great

plzthnxia

Antihero · Post Post #904 (isolation #78) » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:52 am

VOTE: egg

would also do madea or goblin

Antihero · Post Post #911 (isolation #79) » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:34 pm

doubt it he's waiting on the investigative he gave out

Antihero · Post Post #915 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:28 am

wow boonskiies you gave your invention to a lurkaderp

nice choice

Antihero · Post Post #917 (isolation #81) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:06 am

In post 903, Boonskiies wrote:Anyone have anything to say that happened throughout the night?

i'm assuming when you said this you were waiting on someone to claim something invention-related

since thats... what... you know... inventors do

Antihero · Post Post #921 (isolation #82) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:22 pm

'mkay
VOTE: boonskiies

Antihero · Post Post #928 (isolation #83) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:21 pm

In post 923, Boonskiies wrote:VOTE: Antihero

I don't see how you can possibly scum read me. At all. Haha. I'm so town, it's laughable.

no what's laughable is your scum fakeclaiming skills

Antihero · Post Post #929 (isolation #84) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:23 pm

In post 920, Boonskiies wrote:I'm pretty sure I redirected the kill from me to AK. I didn't think that was going to happen at the time. I was town reading AK, and I thought maybe it would make AK like the Lightning Rod role for the night.

let's walk through the logic here:
>you give LIGHTNING ROD (that's the best invention you have)
>to a TOWN-READ
>and you didn't know it would REDIRECT THE KILL TO HIM

BULLLLLLL

SHIIIIIIIIT

Antihero · Post Post #930 (isolation #85) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:30 pm

AND ON TOP OF THAT you strung us along at the beginning of the day knowing full fucking well no one got anything useful. IN FACT you know you made everyone's action useless.

OK, BY ITSELF THE FACT YOU CLAIM TO NOT KNOW THE KILL WOULD BE REDIRECTED IS PURE, STINKY BULLSHIT

Antihero · Post Post #933 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:29 am

In post 931, Boonskiies wrote:I thought it just act as a lightning rod role. Just village idiot, not scum.

THAT'S WHAT THE LIGHTNING ROD ROLE DOES IT REDIRECTING

EVERYTHING

TO THE LIGHTNING ROD

the self-played vi card doesn't fly

Antihero · Post Post #934 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:30 am

UNLESS YOU WANT TO SIT HERE AND TELL ME YOU CAN'T READ OR ASK THE MOD THE SIMPLEST OF QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU USE YOUR ROLE

are you going to tell me you can't read now, boon?

this whole "vi" routine is horseshit. you knew EXACTLY what you were doing.

Antihero · Post Post #941 (isolation #88) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:27 am

so you DID know what it would do

BUT NO YOU DON'T KNOW

you're a bad liar, boonskiies

Antihero · Post Post #942 (isolation #89) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:27 am

*NOW YOU DON'T KNOW

Antihero · Post Post #955 (isolation #90) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:57 am

In post 946, serrapaladin wrote:And I bet it was the crows that told him to play the VI

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

the whole "oh poor me, i'm a vi" is an act. he's not a vi. he knows exactly what he's doing. he's gotten away with it by playing the vi card before so he's trying to do it now.

Antihero · Post Post #956 (isolation #91) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:58 am

In post 954, serrapaladin wrote:This is just really too convenient though. Lightning rod is one of the few roles he could use to explain why he wasn't killed.

oh i don't think he's lying about being an inventor and giving ak the lightning rod

i just don't think he's town

Antihero · Post Post #958 (isolation #92) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:06 pm

Antihero · Post Post #960 (isolation #93) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:08 pm

lol invented scumslips

Antihero · Post Post #961 (isolation #94) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:08 pm

Neil Patrick Harris as Billy/Dr. Horrible: An aspiring supervillain of the mad scientist variety with the catchphrase, "I've got a Ph.D in Horribleness." He desires to become a member of Bad Horse's Evil League of Evil and use his inventions to take over the world and enact social change for the betterment of humanity. His socio-political beliefs include the paradoxical idea of autocratic anarchy: "The world is a mess, and I just... need to rule it." As Billy, he struggles to make a romantic connection with Penny.

nothing sounds inherently scummy about that

Antihero · Post Post #962 (isolation #95) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:10 pm

In post 959, Boonskiies wrote:This is a scum slip. If I was scum, I wouldn't have been shot, thus making me give the lightning rod to AK moot.
He said this like he knows I was shot
, and I gave the lightning rod to AK. He is suggesting I am scum and having all of that still happen. He saw something he could get an easy lynch off of, and is pushing it.

LOLOLOLWHAT?

where did i say you were shot? find it.

you're scum and you were killing ak anyway so you decided to fuck up all the nightactions in the process.

scum

Antihero · Post Post #974 (isolation #96) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:26 pm

In post 963, Boonskiies wrote:You wouldn't flat out say you know you tried to shoot me.

...then it's not a scumslip...

Antihero · Post Post #977 (isolation #97) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:36 pm

In post 975, Murder of Crows wrote:Why did you ask this question?

you really don't get why?

is this ap?

Antihero · Post Post #979 (isolation #98) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:40 pm

i have a different explanation

also, have fun with that meta dive.

Antihero · Post Post #981 (isolation #99) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:48 pm

ok, but it's p. superficial. you'll get it ffery

Antihero · Post Post #984 (isolation #100) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:17 pm

In post 972, Boonskiies wrote:freeze ray - possibly role blocks?
death ray - kill shot
shield - doctor shot
deflector - returns the action back at the person, a la i give it to someone who is going to be killed, it kills the shooter. not sure on this one.

so

you DO know them
or you DON'T know them?

are these guesses?

Antihero · Post Post #986 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:20 am

ok

so the reason you didn't give out the thing you thought was a doc is ________________________________________

Antihero · Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:14 am

In post 993, Boonskiies wrote:If I gave out a shield, I would have been the one to die.

why?

if i got a doc invention at the end of day 1 and saw your claim, i would've put 2and2 together to make 4 and protected you. any non-scumbag would've.

if nothing else you could've given it to serra to pretty much guarantee your survival for the night.

Antihero · Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:16 am

In post 998, Egg wrote:So those who are scum reading Boon, where did his claim come from:
A) He made it up
B) He thought of inventor, his scum buddies made up the details
C) Mod provided
D) It's his real role, but he's scum

I really doubt A. B doesn't happen as often as people think and I don't know who on this playerlist would do that rather than just bussing him at that point. C, I don't think I see the Mod going through all of that trouble for a fakeclaim. D, people seem to have issues with the claim that makes it seem unlikely that they'd believe this.

I'm kind of leaning town on him.

VOTE: egg

Antihero · Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:20 am

c is something mods do all the time. mod-given scum fakeclaims are a thing ESPECIALLY IN THEME GAMES and i think it's bullshit you're pretending to not know that, egg.

d is a VERY REAL possibility. details about the claim are independent of the fact that boon can't seem to keep his shit straight about why he targeted who he did and which ability he claims to have used.

this is a bullshitty town read

Antihero · Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:28 am

wouldn't necessarily mess with the kill if they were killing anatole to begin w/ (not an unreasonable kill choice either, he was pretty town).

only difference is it just screws up the town PR's night actions in the process

Antihero · Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:40 pm

In post 1010, Boonskiies wrote:I'll say it one more time...damn. I didn't give the shield out, because then I would have died!!! I was under the impression that I was going to be the night kill. Me giving out the shield would have done absolutely nothing since I believe I was the actual night kill.

so what's getting lost in the disconnect here? i don't get it.

did you not understand:
>lightning rod is negative utility
>someone who got a doc wouldn't use it on you
>docs prevent nightkills

which one?

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:08 pm

i just took 6 excedrin, drank 3 cups of coffee and a black tea

so i feel like my heart is about to explode

in other words, just fine

who's alt are you?

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:13 pm

screw scumreads

this game is now about who's alt jesusbuddha is.

mollie...?

it's someone who knows me.

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:17 pm

it might be tammy...

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:20 pm

someone who mixes up "k"s and "v"s

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:20 pm

AH

mara

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:21 pm

In post 0, Bulbazak wrote:(SleepyKrew + Nachomamma8 + Ms Marangal)

i iz so smarts

huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:23 pm

In post 1048, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:while you're guessing, tell me do you really believe boonsvies is scum? I just read D2 and I literally went LOL TOWN

yeah, i don't know...........

the lightning rod action is absolutely nonsensical. it makes no sense as town and a lot of sense as scum. he wants everyone to believe it's because he's oblivious. but i've seen him play that card before as scum, so i'm not so quick to buy into it.

Antihero · Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:51 pm

In post 1055, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:STOP SHOVING IT IN MY FACE SVREW

Anti: it could have just been a jerv-read, but I thinv he's town. Just the way he went about it maves me thinv that it really isn't convenient for him to do it as scum

madea read yet, mara?

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:36 am

In post 1060, Egg wrote:
In post 1052, Antihero wrote:
In post 1048, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:while you're guessing, tell me do you really believe boonsvies is scum? I just read D2 and I literally went LOL TOWN

yeah, i don't know...........

the lightning rod action is absolutely nonsensical. it makes no sense as town and a lot of sense as scum. he wants everyone to believe it's because he's oblivious. but i've seen him play that card before as scum, so i'm not so quick to buy into it.

Do you mean that the role is a pro scum role or that the way he used it makes no sense as town?

the way he used it makes no sense

you don't give lightning rod to a townread, you give it to a scumread.

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:36 am

happy birthday, serra

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:05 am

you could stop the v thing

that would help

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:11 am

who's idea is the ank vote?

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:08 am

i was asking which head of maranachoskhydra placed the vote

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:23 am

VOTE: Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:59 pm

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ok i see what hoopla was saying about too easy now

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:02 pm

i still think ankamius (now regfan) is probably a loser wagon mostly b/c of the company but partly b/c of the predecessors in that slot

the only way i wouldn't scumread the triple hydra's entrance was if sleepykrew was making every last one of those posts, but i know good and well he wasn't

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:37 pm

b/c you're acting like you're trying to talk to me aaaaaaaaaand

you're actually not nothing is getting done

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:36 pm

serra's an ic
cabd .... might be scum
what about apffery? ap misreads me all the fucking time (mysteriously)
and who's falcon?

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:38 pm

oh there's falcon

he made one post

Antihero · Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:38 pm

so, what about him?

Antihero · Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:15 pm

'mkay

still good w/ my vote

Antihero · Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:19 pm

if all the hydras keeled over right now

we might be left w/ one scum

max

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:32 am

In post 1239, Regfan wrote:I'm reasonably confident he's town just need the two things explained 1) The flip of read on MoC/Boon at end of D1 and 2) The "lurkaderp" comment.

1. that had almost nothing to do w/ reads. i still had enough reasonable doubt on ffery to where i would've preferred a boon PL. most of my scumread on ffery has to do w/ sour feelings surrounding their criticism of me. i see scum, it's in the lmp slot. and now i'm chasing it. i'm telling them

why

the lmp slot is scum, and now all i'm getting from them (and cabd hydra) is a bunch of lip about how i'm not doing anything. everyone's townreading scum for no reason and i'm being faulted for it. i can't even get anyone to challenge me on it and give reasons, everyone's just got this upturned-nose look at me whenever i ask about it.

so yeah, that scumread is more based on me being pissy.

i'm talking smack about the hydras now, but i'm mostly talking about madea and jesus. madea b/c cabd's meta read on me turned out scum (lol?) and jesus b/c of predecessors and the entrance wasn't doing much for me.

2. from boon's first post, i was operating under the assumption boon handed out an investigative invention and was waiting for someone to spill the results. no one had yet, so i thought he gave it to one of the lurkers.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:55 am

yes, i'm stubborn as shit, but it's not b/c i'm afraid of being wrong. it's b/c i'm interpreting all the cues around me as signs that i'm right.

it's b/c i feel like i'm getting flak on this and there's no real apparent reason i should be getting flak on it. egg and riddleton just gave me some generic statement about how lmp was obvtown (no reason as to why). everyone else is either ignoring the slot altogether or calling it town for reasons i can't even get out of them, much less argue with.

now i'm thinking that scum are just ignoring the read and hoping i'll get distracted and go away instead of taking me on about it (b/c as mara said, i'm stubborn as shit)

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:56 am

In post 1309, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Really, though anti. You're in a terrible place as far as reads go, and it isn't even our slot that I'm talking about.

right, and you know this............

i'm going to go through the whole list w/ you in a sec

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:19 am

Medea the Alien
Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Antihero
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Egg
Serrapaladin - Dawn Summers, Innocent Child
Regfan
Boonskiies
Eyestott
Murder of Crows
Mikuru
Yoncé

the major wagons i remember from d1 were regfan's slot, mikuru's slot, and boon. i thought the ones on aa9 (mikuru) and mathdinohydra (regfan) were awful so i'm townreading those slots and scumreading the major participants of those.

>i like what hoopla is doing so far.
>egg's just kind of sitting here, but w/ a newborn, that's understandable.
>eyestott's a blind spot for me b/c i tend to townread newbs. i thought he was softclaiming penny earlier (all that bizarre alignment chaging stuff was intricate, i though it was b/c he had it in his role pm already) and by flavor that made me think town. from the later i don't think that was the case, but i still saw town things from eystott. i'm sticking w/ a townread until i see reason to do otherwise

my scumreads right now are madea, jesus, and f16. i'm looking over greyice's iso and it wasn't as good as i remember it being. the aa9 push was the most bothersome b/c it felt like he was just riding serra's hate.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:20 am

mmmmm, thinking ffery is town. there's a lot of nondescript hate in that direction and the wagon yesterday wasn't particularly town.

i think my early scumread was more a byproduct of the fact i was pissed at ap, but that's not a good reason to scumread someone

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:25 am

In post 1313, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:and, yes I understand that you are scum-reading our slot, but that doesn't mean you can just outright ignore the fact that I am trying to talk to you, and understand where you're coming from because, I don't understand where you're reads are coming from this game. Just that you have the passion and conviction

let's start at the beginning then

that hypotheticalbassist wagon was bad. people were p much scumreading them for being newbs.

the aa9 wagon was bad b/c people were scumreading aa9 for being aa9.

do you disagree w/ either of those

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:48 am

In post 1318, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:I think both reads were shitty for the reasons given, sure but I think the town reasons are just as bad. I dont' think they were being scum-read for being newbs, though but rather how they were progressing in theg ame

what does that even mean?

the root of the issue was the miscommunication between the hydra heads about the random vote and the sign of weakness afterwards by apologizing for the mistake. that's what people jumped on and to say otherwise is pretty disingenuous.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:56 am

Spoiler: what i'm talking about

In post 67, HypotheticalBassists wrote:Dinosaur head checkin in.
UNVOTE: whoever

Got some solo games to look over right now, will provide reads after consulting duck.

In post 77, Riddleton wrote:
In post 71, HypotheticalBassists wrote:
In post 69, Riddleton wrote:MathDino, why did you unvote?

Because my partner made an RVS vote outside of RVS and there are clearly actual leads so far, but I don't have the time to go over the game and comment right now.

But the unvote is quite a defensive manuever considering we're just barely out of RVS. Don't you think? Especially considering you've not found a viable alternative yet and are still reading.

In post 91, Egg wrote:
In post 62, Riddleton wrote:
In post 60, Egg wrote:Not really.

You're boring. Just saying.

I voted Murder of Crows to get two viable wagons going. I'm happy with LMP at the moment.

Ok.

Unvote

Hypo wrote:will provide reads after consulting duck

After....whaaaaaaat? Why?

Hypo wrote:Because my partner made an RVS vote outside of RVS

If you are town, why is this bad? Or more why is it a reason to unvote?

Riddleton wrote:
This is the post I like the least so far. Tries to find associations after 30 posts.

That's not scummy.

Hypo wrote: I don't think it should have been made

Why not?

Vote Hypo

In post 166, LimMePls wrote:
In post 98, Riddleton wrote:
In post 91, Egg wrote:That's not scummy.

I disagree; it's the scummiest thing so far.

I agree with Riddleton here.

In post 103, Riddleton wrote:
For me, my vote is either explicitly for pressure or on the person I find scummiest. I unvoted because the vote didn't accurately display my thoughts on the game.

Call it what you like, it's still defensive & scummy play.

And here.

In post 117, HypotheticalBassists wrote:With the RVS vote,
I'm sorry
, I wasn't totally aware of the non-RVS-ness...

And we have a winner! New scummiest thing in thread. All hands man your battle stations, and fire at will.

Vote: HypotheticalBassist

In post 132, GreyICE wrote:
Vote: Egg

The hell hasn't this happened yet?

Every time you put three or more quotes in your post I legit don't read it.

Don't see it. Explain.

GreyICE <--> Hypo interactions on page 6 are giving me all sorts of red flags. I could see distancing buddies in here.

In post 161, serrapaladin wrote:^i think this guy is town

I agree.

In post 162, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 152, HypotheticalBassists wrote:Can we get more pressure votes on GreyICE? He's willfully not cooperating.

Asking for pressure votes is inherently useless because when you add the "pressure" qualifier there's an understanding you don't actually intend to lynch the person. Why not just call for votes?

This is also a good observation.

Time for a meter. This early in a game, I like to denote where the more hazy nullish spot of the meter is, which is between the asterisks. That'll go away over time.

TOWN
Serrapaladin
Riddleton
Istott
***
Medea the Alien
Anatole Kuragin
Egg
ArcAngel9
***
GreyICE
Boonskiies
Antihero
Murder of Crows
HypotheticalBassists
SCUM

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:04 am

In post 1322, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:the reasons given for both reads were shitty, I agree with you there but the reasons for why they are town are just as bad.

no, that's not how the townread works

the townread emerges from everyone else's predatory behavior.

i just quoted the vote posts for 3 of the wagoners and exactly zero of them contained valid reasons for the accompanying vote. unvoting the rvs vote while rereading is not a scumtell and saying "sorry" isn't a scumtell either. if that's what you have to dredge up as reasons to vote someone, there's a good chance you're making shit up. i.e. - you're scum.

and since it's still day 1, there's a better than average chance that scum are still abusing the fog of war and not bussing. as scum, day 1 is the best time to get those juicy newb and VI lynches in b/c later you just look like an opportunist.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:06 am

i don't even know what YOU'RE talking about now nacho.

something about a progression. what progression? i don't see that as the reason people are giving for the bassist votes. i see the reasons being about the peccadilloes around the rvs vote.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:12 am

In post 1327, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
In post 1052, Antihero wrote:
In post 1048, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:while you're guessing, tell me do you really believe boonsvies is scum? I just read D2 and I literally went LOL TOWN

yeah, i don't know...........

the lightning rod action is absolutely nonsensical. it makes no sense as town and a lot of sense as scum. he wants everyone to believe it's because he's oblivious. but i've seen him play that card before as scum, so i'm not so quick to buy into it.

Would like a link to this.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59089

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:13 am

alright, mara

sry, i thought i saw nacho sign his posts a couple hours ago and assumed it was still him

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:15 am

In post 1300, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:No, it's mara

this is all mara

well i can't read

sorry

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:16 am

In post 1333, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:as far as progression goes though, it kinda sorta feels like they are forcing their reads?

a specific example of this is ___________

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:22 am

In post 1336, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:I ON'T KNOW I AM DRUNK

at 1:30 in the afternoon?

damn

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:00 pm

In post 1365, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:There is too little condecsension and too much OMGUS but I'll elaborate in a bit. Would like Nacho to explain the townread and I'd also like Anti to explain it considering her reaction to his push on her in Serum and Steel was way, way, way different.

i don't remember it being way way different

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:04 pm

i don't rely on meta

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:07 pm

In post 1377, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:A weed is a plant considered undesirable in a particular situation, "a plant in the wrong place". Examples commonly are plants unwanted in human-controlled settings, such as farm fields, gardens, lawns, and parks. Taxonomically, the term "weed" has no botanical significance, because a plant that is a weed in one context is not a weed when growing in a situation where it is in fact wanted, and where one species of plant is a valuable crop plant, another species in the same genus might be a serious weed, such as a wild bramble growing among cultivated loganberries. Many plants that people widely regard as weeds also are intentionally grown in gardens and other cultivated settings. The term also is applied to any plant that grows or reproduces aggressively, or is invasive outside its native habitat. More broadly "weed" occasionally is applied pejoratively to species outside the plant kingdom, species that can survive in diverse environments and reproduce quickly; in this sense it has even been applied to humans.

Click here to learn more.

ok

so is there any chance i'm going to hear about why the bassist wagon was so great?

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:16 pm

i mean, aside from AP pissing me off a little, i don't see any offensive stuff coming from murder. what's wrong here?

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:30 pm

i think the only thing being proven now is that meta sucks donkey balls

i hope your wall case doesn't rely on it f16

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:16 pm

mara

you can't see me

but know that i'm smashing my head against a wall right now

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:19 pm

it's ok

i think the worst thing i can do is give myself a concussion

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:25 pm

In post 1430, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
In post 1310, Antihero wrote:it's b/c i feel like i'm getting flak on this and there's no real apparent reason i should be getting flak on it. egg and riddleton just gave me some generic statement about how lmp was obvtown (no reason as to why). everyone else is either ignoring the slot altogether or calling it town for reasons i can't even get out of them, much less argue with.

ok, so even if our slot was scum, do you really think that my supposed teammates would really play it off like this?

YES

why the fuck not?

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:27 pm

who are you even voting and what are your reads mara?

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:29 pm

right, b/c i'm making associations w/ PARTICULAR PEOPLE not just the overall dynamic in general....

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:30 pm

alright

why eyestott and yonce?

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:36 pm

In post 1438, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:also if everyone else is town-reading our slot, you don't think you have the possibility of being wrong?

no. i have absolutely no doubt in my mind that i could possibly be wrong. because i am just that much of a fucking douche, mara. you know me.

of course there's doubt, but it doesn't come from the popular opinion

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:38 pm

wait, is the rl thing = the christmas shopping thing?

b/c if it is, i'll just keep smashing my head against the wall until i'm unconscious

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:40 pm

'mkay, so in terms of low-content posters, how are you feeling about: mikuru and boon.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:44 pm

Spoiler:

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:50 pm

alright well this is just grand

apparently nacho and mara think i'm an asshole who can't admit he's wrong and mara also can't stand my company while sober

i think i HAVE to knock myself unconscious now b/c otherwise i'm going to cry myself to sleep

/sigh

i hate myself

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:00 pm

greyice said he agreed w/ me about something earlier so i just thought "lol cool, grey agrees w/ me on something so it might not be stupid" and i just wanted to be town after that.

i say it's not that great mostly b/c it's weirdly distant and that aa9 push was so blah.

hoopla is town until she gives me reason to think otherwise. if i do this read any other way, i'll go insane and be reduced to a blubbering mess.

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:04 pm

In post 536, yoncé wrote:Quick VC scan: istott, trust me when I say you don't want to have your vote on me by the time day ends. And I'm not getting lynched either so look for a better person to scrutinize.

In post 588, yoncé wrote:
In post 556, Antihero wrote:yonce = hoopla alt?

she's lying to me then

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:05 pm

what the......

that emoticon in 588 does not show up in the original post that COMPLETELY CHANGES THE MEANING OF THE POST

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:06 pm

I THOUGHT SHE WAS SAYING ":GOOD:" AS IN, "GOOD JOB IN PICKING UP MY MAIN, ANTIHERO"

NOT "

" AS IN, "YOU'RE A FUCKING DUMBASS, ANTIHERO, NO."

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:08 pm

In post 1448, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
In post 1440, Antihero wrote:wait, is the rl thing = the christmas shopping thing?

b/c if it is, i'll just keep smashing my head against the wall until i'm unconscious

no, the rl mafia excuse. I understand that playing in that type of environment can inspire the kind of play he has, but he's just overusing it imo

/going back to find this

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:11 pm

In post 1284, eyestott wrote:You may have missed the post where I explain this.
95% of my mafia experience comes from face to face games.
F2F mafia is much less logical, much more gut based than Forum mafia, and bandwagons start much easier. Even if someone doesn't give a reason for a vote, or gives a bad one, people will generally follow on and vote the same person. My play style is still based around my Experiences with F2F, and as such, I always get cautious when I'm voted for. Ignoring a scumread in F2F is near fatal, so I dont. Most of you guys are mainly forum mafia players, but I'm not, so keep that in mind. I ain't like other people.

ok

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:16 pm

In post 1454, Murder of Crows wrote:What do you make of Yonce's ISO on its own?

(It looks better to me in review than I recalled from real-time. Also, I townread riddleton.)

nothings really bothering me, but nothing's that town either

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:18 pm

"interact" is the new buzzword of ms

some people are just more reclusive

only thing is the regfan thing is bleh

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:19 pm

*the regfan read

i don't care for the reads, but disagreeing w/ reads doesn't necessarily mean scum

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:23 pm

i don't know the murder read dropping off is kind of weird

Antihero · Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:24 pm

ffery it's 3:30 inthe morning here and i'm really tired and i don't feel great right now

would you be mad at me if i went to sleep?

Antihero · Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:12 pm

that's the worst reads list

Antihero · Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:28 pm

In post 1485, Egg wrote:
In post 1483, Antihero wrote:that's the worst reads list

*shrug*

Anything that calls you scum must be bad.

right it's not that there's no good reasons for any of the reads OR that it gives dysfunctional reads on crucial slots altogether

it's that i'm butthurt about being called scum and i'm just an asshole for saying something

Antihero · Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:47 pm

i replaced into this game b/c i owe bulba a favor and i'm not about to replace out. but this game's just draining me

i feel like i'm pissing people off and coming off as a butthole
i'm trying not to though
,but i'm obviously not doing a good job

i feel like shit

Antihero · Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:57 pm

i don't know ffery, i feel like i'm the problem but i don't know what to do about it. i guess i could self vote, but that sucks.

at the very least, i'm toxic to myself because i read what i write and i don't mean to come off as harshly as i apparently am. i guess i'm self-aware enough to know when people are calling me on my snark but too oblivious to actually catch it at the time.

the end result is an obnoxious piece of shit who's weighing everyone down, and i can't figure out if i'm that guy or not. i think i am.

Antihero · Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:08 pm

Spoiler:

In post 1467, Regfan wrote:So, here's why MoC's scum and why we're lynching them today:

1) Found the entrance in Post 10 to be forced and exaggerated, AP later attempting to slip in a statement that he would 'never' make that post as scum in Post 623 reads as ridiculously disingenuous especially since he's not one to shy away from 'attention' as scum.

2) Reaction towards being FoS'ed in Post 224 / Post 225 / Post 243 / Post 614 don't read natural at all and comes across as very manipulative; little to no reason to attempt to manipulate the IC as town whereas scum have plenty. Didn't like their posts directed at Cabd at end of D1 specifically Post 649 and Post 674 which looks like an attempt to get 'town read' and also as F-16 pointed out play the fear card (which is something F-16 actually did to me last game and I almost bought it), reaction to F-16 more recently is similarly bad. MoCs Post 874 andPost 879 look really fake, with 30 minutes to go and the closest they ever got to a lynch I'd expect Town!Them to be more frantic about just getting a lynch in, attempting to play the "When we flip town" while doing near nothing to get a lynch in looks like an attempt to get town-cred while simultaneously not helping the town at all.

3) Reasoning behind the town read on Riddelton in Post 344 is lynchworthy alone, town reading someone as you don't believe scum would push something they know is "fake" makes no sense because almost everything scum push is 'fake'. I don't see an experienced player like Ffyer or AP coming up with or using logic this insanely weak as town, fact that this happens to be on the other person I'm scum-reading here strengthens this and makes Riddleton-MoC a likely team.

4) This is probably one of the larger ones but throughout the entire game (And especially when they were suspected) they set themselves up to be able to vote just about anyone, you can see Antihero set up in Post 442, Egg in Post 501, Bass in Post 504 also agree with Anti massively when he says their turn around on him does not flow at all, reasoning in Post 521 really contradicts Post 442, there's a lot more instances of her setting up to vote on weaker players and the while the culmination of them is damning I think the context of these ones are more crucial. If you take a look at Post 561 for instance their "Left" pool is pretty much solely players that either a) Scum read them or b) Are weaker easier players to push. The throw down vote on Egg purely as a "PoE scum read" after their entire reads list also reads as scummy and points against them legitimately scumhunting.

5) The FoS and "If you lynch us you should really look at lynching this D2" in Post 649 about Yonce who had replaced their somehow "strong town read" of Riddleton looks ridiculously scummy especially given the lack of follow up on this by them, until I replaced in they were putting near no focus on Yonce and even now their focus is minimal, there's no real attempt to get a read on him or natural progression in their read on him.

6) The fact that almost the entire playerlist FoS'ed MoC yesterday but they never got past L-3 in the entire day phase heavily points towards them being scum, partners wanting to distance but no buss; if they're town I'd have expected them to at minimum have been put to L-2/L-1 and forced to claim.

Vote: MoC

Reads on Jesus / Isott will come shortly or if I pass out tomorrow evening.

saw this and read it.

have to think on it. will comment when i feel well enough to.

Antihero · Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:45 am

i'm kind of as lost on why eyestott's getting lynched as serra is

Antihero · Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:10 pm

oh wow........

Antihero · Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:11 pm

guess wake's little misadventure didn't make an impression on everyone else

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:58 am

regfan,

your case on MoC is factually true, but it effected me differently than it did you. what you called manipulative i thought was town. i'm a sucker for AtE and i tend to think it comes from town more than scum.

i'll do this though
VOTE: yonce

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:16 am

In post 1609, yoncé wrote:Crows actually made a good point, I think. Apart from serra (whose reason for scumreading me I still don't really understand) everyone calling me scum, namely Regfan eyes and F-16, seem to be pushing me based on an associative tell with Crows who's still unflipped.

nope

regfan already noted that your initial enthusiasm at "being town" seemed to wear off really quickly
there's also the case of your moc read that drifts off into nowhereland which is weird regardless of moc's alignment

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:17 am

ffery, plz vote yonce

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:31 am

what is it you want to talk about?

i'm not voting the aa9 slot just b/c a lurker took over the slot.
i guess i could vote egg but i feel like that would just be b/c he's treating me like shit
eyestott's not a great lynch b/c the whole "f2f meta" thing is just a morass of nothing anyway
i don't really want to vote madea b/c i don't feel like it

so... what's up?

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:49 am

oh please... the softclaiming...

gag me

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:50 am

In post 1654, yoncé wrote:
In post 1649, Antihero wrote:regfan already noted that your initial enthusiasm at "being town" seemed to wear off really quickly
I've been inactive and it's disappointing to me. If I was more active I could have gotten what I wanted to happen but right now I'm kind of wishing I was just scum instead.

...and the case of the vanishing MoC scumread...?

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:22 am

airhorns

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:22 am

also, if he throws you out the window, you will have gotten him up

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:24 am

In post 1663, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Anti, I am not voting yonce, I really don't wanna vote yonce. She's been soft-claiming since way before she was a viable wagon, just... no

i've seen scum do that

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:26 am

riddleton didn't act like a pr

spamming the shit out of the thread and picking fights w/ greyice?

no

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:27 am

In post 1669, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:I don't think it's very likely, and there's no rhyme or reason to why she's started the soft-claims

right, i'm sure regfan calling for her head had nothing to do w/ it

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:39 am

let me know when you're ready to tell me to jump up my own ass and die, cabd

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:40 am

In post 1673, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
In post 536, yoncé wrote:Quick VC scan: istott, trust me when I say you don't want to have your vote on me by the time day ends. And I'm not getting lynched either so look for a better person to scrutinize.

this happened way before regfan called her out

oh fucking a
if it's negative utility, riddleton would've piped up first post

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:55 am

In post 1679, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:pedit: who says it's negative utility?

"you don't want your vote on me"

the claim = something bad happens to people with votes on her at the end of the day

Antihero · Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:58 am

no that's a REALLY specific threat

Antihero · Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:27 am

In post 1908, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:I actually find myself getting paranoid of him again (but don't tell Mara so hopefully she skims my posts?) since I can't remember a post from him in forever and a half and generally that's a sign of Antihero-scum and Antihero-scum alone.

no it's a sign that antihero is as sick as a dog and sleeping most of the day and crawling on occasionally to do random shit that doesn't require much thought

bp claim doesn't do much for me

Antihero · Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:42 pm

what's going on now?

Antihero · Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:08 am

getting to this tonight

Antihero · Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:01 am

been v/la for the past few days and will be for the next couple days. sry to leave ya'll hangin'.

cabd, just use the damn vig shot.

Antihero · Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:02 pm

alright.... let's get to gettin'

Antihero · Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:05 pm

In post 2529, jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
In post 2528, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:What does Nacho think? Also what do you think of my points that Antihero hasn't been very active onsite at all? And the reasons I was townreading him when he did post?

Nacho is the one that told me to make that vote (because I was already logged in). He has been lurking, yes, but it's clearly not because he can't make time for games:

In post 3438, Heartless wrote:/in for 583
(hydra of TellTaleHeart and Antihero)
In post 3527, Heartless wrote:/in for ika's game if there's room for another hydra
(Hydra of TellTaleHeart and Antihero)

Pretty sure he's not in any other games, so him lurking here is obviously going to look like he's lurking everywhere.

i'm going to be in a supporting role in both of those. notice they're hydra games...

if you're stalking me, not sure how you missed this:

In post 810, Antihero wrote:this mental breakdown was just a series in a loooooong list, mollie. it wasn't just this game.

truth is, i've been on a downward spiral since this summer when kotor ended. since then there's just a roster of games i couldn't get through without winding up in this self-loathing awfulness:

suburban warfare
serum and steel
quickness
the wire
ikaruga
autumn serenade
c9++

...it's just crazy...

i think i'm going to finish out all my current games and then not sign up for any more by myself a while. i'll play heartless games if tth wants me to, but other than that, i think it's for the best i remove myself for a bit.

i'm not selectively lurking and you even admitted it yourself nacho