Robbery! At The Casino (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I genuinely don't understand how people are not voting Ika or Nati.

Ika dropped a soft-claim and completely forgot about it when he got tangled up in the VT mass-claiming fiasco. His reads are so inconsistent, I can't add anything that I haven't already said previously.

Nati - I mean, I actually don't know what to say. How anyone is town-reading that slot is absolutely beyond me. She is doing nothing. Literally, nothing.

Pedit - Titus, can we not do that. If you don't want to vote Ika, join the Nati wagon please.

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your not going to get more then that untill i take action tonight

VT's don't 'take action at night'

I'd rather not vote GC or Shos. I'd really, really, really like to lynch Nati toDay. Like, seriously, since D1 I've wanted this.

Titus, why is Nati town?

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Are you seriously suggesting you haven't seen me post that quote before Titus? This is like the 9th time I've done it.

Fish is town, I agree. There is no way Nati is town. Seriously, I just can't see it.

She doesn't provide anything else for me to try and develop my case on her either. She is doing nothing.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

bbt is still scum who is selectivly attacking

What does this even mean?

If it means I'm only attacking my scum-reads, then yeah, you got me. Good job.

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What does it mean then GC?

What does 'take action tonight' actually mean?

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Why did it take him over 8 pages to explain it? He was biding time to come up with a reason for why he did it.

That's not the only reason he is scum either.

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Ika, are you planning on continuing to just ignore any questions that people ask you?

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What about Nati fish?

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Let's get a wagon going on Nati then.

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I'll be glad to help lynch you if your wagon picks up a little more steam Ika.

I think I would much rather lynch Nati right now though.

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GC, how would DT (Titus) be able to reference the VT PM when she didn't get one?

Or am I missing something?

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Fish, join the Nati wagon.

That's today's lynch.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Finally!!

One more is it?

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You're welcome, FF. Without my sarcasm pushing you over the edge, you'd never had made such a solid change in vote.

Titus totally watched the NK, and got results, and no funny business, right?

Hate, hate, hate these posts. It's like you're trying to claim credit for the Nati lynch with the first one.

The second one is lining up a vote on Titus like you know she didn't see anyone before she said it.

VOTE: titus

Scum having a ninja and town having the power weknow ot has makes no sense for a watcher/tracker.

Also, he is spittingbullshit.
I practically made the traction the nati wagon needed; and my dealer crumb should be especially strong now that scum goon is dealer too.

Same for this. Claiming credit for the Nati lynch. Hate it.

I'm beginning to wonder about Shos' crumb now as well.

Both my town-reads start D4 acting scummy as fuck.

That's just fantastic.

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GC, how do you feel about lynching Ika?

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Titus, can you explain your town-read on Who? I don't get it.

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Where are your reads at Shos?

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Who seems rather reluctant to rush to judgment. His posts that asked questions as he was reading allowed for a clear train of thought to be followed.

Compare that to Desperado - Mr. OMG I will vote every wagon but Shos.

Compare to Shos - I am conftown because I am dealer and there's no way scum would know VT is dealer...and then scum had dealer.

Dr. Who is a smidge PoE ( as you BBT and ika are confirmed town from my perspective).

I also looked at that epically bad Pants wagon. It formed in 6 hours. Why did Desp tey a flashwagon on Pants?

He knew Beck would go for it. So both Desp and shos vote Pants. The end of the 6hour flashwagon was town. That wagon was scumled.

OK. I disagree that Ika is town.

My only solid town-reads right now are Fish and yourself. Shos and GC were town for me pretty much all game and then the start of D4 just felt all wrong. I figure I must have one of them wrong. If I do, I'm leaning on Shos because I just don't see GC starting a wagon on his buddy for no reason at all D3.

Who is just flying under my radar. Like, nothing he has done really stands out to me. Especially as I tend to disregard a lot of catch-up posts because they're just so easy to make look pro-town. Let's see what he produces toDay.

I would really like to lynch Ika. If I can't get Ika, I will compromise on Shos.

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It would be just great if we could stop thinking about lynching Titus and start thinking about lynching Ika

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Well, that's a little annoying.

VOTE: Ika

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Fish, why is Titus still alive?

Just ask yourself that one question.

Please don't reply with 'because she's scum'. Think about it.

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The second reason is because they are town and scum is smart enough to leave them alive.

OK, so you realize that it's good play for scum to keep Titus alive for this exact reason. That's a good start.

I propose that instead of lynching a potential town PR (a very likely town PR) that we lynch inside the many VT claims we have.

Also, why would Titus soft-claim so early on in the game as scum? That seems very dangerous, and unlikely, given she wouldn't know whether her claim would fit with the game or not. It just doesn't make sense.

@BBT:

nobody is joining you on ika. Who else are you looking at?

Either yourself or Shos.

Bah. Have been mulling the Titus bit over, and though I'm a bit gunshy about it, I think it's probably the best lynch at the moment.

Who else are you willing to look at? You're clearly having second thoughts about this lynch so let's look elsewhere.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I love how you're scum and completely slipping under everyone's radar.

Your 'I don't give a fuck what I do coz I just do it on gut and nobody can understand me!!!!!!!one!!' really seems to work out quite nicely for you.

It's obvious I would focus on Fish's second reason because that's where I want him to pay attention.

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I love how you keep thinking that when im not, what happens when I flip town?

I know right? that how people should act more often in games, not caring

Why so you can save your scum buddie?

I love that you think your first question is supposed to somehow make me doubt you're scum.

But seems as you like it so much; what happens if Titus flips town?

If you think Titus is scum, you should be able to counter the points I made a couple of posts back.

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Titus, I don't see GC being scum.

Who else would you consider?

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Titus, shos, and Doctor Who were the three I was willing to lynch today.

This post is so conveniently timed.

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Titus, why would scum GC start a wagon on Nati D3?

This is my biggest problem with him being scum.

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I guess I could see that.

The Nati wagon did move pretty quickly which means he wouldn't have had time to get off.

I'll have to re-read. I don't like trusting other people's reads because it's gotten me into trouble before (as you know from the mini we just finished)

Especially your Ika read. I just don't see Ika town.

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LOL @Ika talking to Titus like he knows she is town, before her flip, after pushing her lynch (1892, 1897)

Backtracks in 1899 and 1901.

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Of course.

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You can't laugh at me.

If you're scum, I laugh at you.

If you're town, I laugh at you because you're really bad at playing town.

Either way, I'll be the one laughing.

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I have stated my case against you on numerous occasions.

You simply chose to not answer anything and pretend that the points I made didn't exist.

Tell me how that is supposed to make me think you're town.

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Ika, your whole 'BBT is scum' thing is OMGUS. You have come at me with this '1v1' bullshit since I called you out and began trying to get your lynch.

You actually have no case for me being scum.

I don't need to build a case on Beck. I already said that I was town-reading Beck and it was a pretty strong town-read. You completely obliterated that read. I have made a case against you, have made numerous additional points to that case, and you have simply waved them away.

Yeah, I can see how that makes you town /sarcasm.

It's also not just a 'contradiction'. It's a pretty blatant slip that you've tried to backtrack on. I'm not buying it.

I just noticed a couple of things in your ISO as well.

for nati shes alwasy lurkaderp

I think this is your only comment on Nati the entire game.

BBT why did you do that?

VOTE: nati

know what actualy

VOTE: BBT

full ika mode: 1V1 ME

Then this is the start of your bullshit with me.

PEdit - Fuck you Ika, as if it comes down to just me to win fucking games.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Holy shit.

So I've quickly read what's happened so far toDay and it seems everyone is happy to lynch me. Well, that's just fantastic.

If I'm right, everyone has been posting/online since Fish voted me, which means Fish has to be scum. Which is disappointing because I really wanted to lynch Ika today and Fish/Ika makes no sense as a scum-team.

The fact Ika hasn't voted me yet makes me think that Titus was right and he is town.

I can see now why Fish wanted Titus lynched so badly. He knew my claim would come under scrutiny and he could use that to his advantage.

The comment Fish wrote about scum being powerful; an unlimited ninja pretty much guarantees scum are pretty powerful, no? In fact, only Egg and myself were capable of avoiding being killed. Egg had BP and I could leave for two nights.

I love how everyone is completely ignoring the fact I wanted Nati's lynch since his slots very first post. I pursued that lynch for 3 fucking days. 3 fucking days until people decided to start listening to me. But oh no, that doesn't mean shit.

I'm gonna read again now and address individual posts.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fiiine but if you're wrong I'm gonna say I told ya so!

VOTE: Desperado

What about BBT?

i rand isoing again.....

this looks mighty intresting

anyone want to say what it could mean?

Ika, what do you make of Nati trying to get me lynched? I think that was all she contributed the entire game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

How does it make me scum to have a vote on you?

Because I haven't been lynched yet?

If you're town, that means both scum are in Ika, GC and Who. Which means I would have been hammered and scum would have won given they are all here and posting.

You have to be scum.

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VOTE: Fish

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NK analysis is interesting.

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I paused my ISO review because yawn.

What do you think about Fish, specifically his Nati vote?

From my POV, if there was a bus on Nati it was either BBT or FF. I doubt it was BBT because he was the one who actually convinced me to get back to the Nati vote. So if there was a bus on Nati, FF is it.

I'm glad someone is paying attention to what's happened in this game.

Fish/Who for scum is where I'm at right now.

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Or I am right and you are scum. Different strokes.

Given you didn't even realise the situation we were in, I find it hard to see that coming from a town perspective.

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lol, this might be a bit much.

But. "Tourist" implies BBT is visiting our casino. A tourist isn't a permanent residence of the town/casino. And "leaving town" in this game would actually be leaving the casino. So a tourist wouldn't "leave <the casino>" every so often, because a tourist actually

visits

the casino. A tourist leaves his town in bumblefuck America to visit the casino.

The directional aspect of the flavor and the mechanics are backwards.

I understand what you're saying here.

I can only assume I'm staying

at

the casino and can leave the casino for two nights.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Found the claim, came when he was the leading wagon with 3 votes (had four, but GC moved off of him to Nati).

BBT was under pressure at the time, as scum a fakeclaim would have kept him in the game longer.

Well, isn't this just opportunistic.

I claimed on my own free will. I didn't

have

to claim and I certainly wasn't under pressure.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'd be interested in you teasing this out a bit more. I don't quite follow.

Fish comes out and votes me after insistence from Ika. He doesn't seem to realise that this confirms either me or him as scum if I didn't get hammered.

I think town would put more thought into taking this action during LyLo. I would expect a careless vote to be thrown out by scum, not town.

Hell, if anyone was throwing out a vote on me today I felt sure it would be Ika.

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I'm caught up.

Fish/Who looks good to me.

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THIS IS A VOTECOUNT LOL

Desperado (4): Titus, Perfect Chaos, Natirasha, geraintm
Perfect Chaos (4): theaceofspades, BlueBloodedToffee, Desperado, ika
BlueBloodedToffee (1): Aronis
Titus (1): Shos

Not Voting: GrayFoxxxx
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 begins now and ends on Wednesday, October 22 at 2:30 PM Eastern

Accuracy never guaranteed. But

probably

accurate.

Just looking through the VC's and this one is very interesting.

Thoughts on it?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So how about the fact that I am not dead yet? By your logic wouldnt that implicate you further?

I'm referring to your complete ignorance of the situation we're in.

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I don't want you to comment on the VC

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Nah, I've made that crystal clear.

Why are you playing dumb?

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BBT link (or name) me your last scum game, and before you go "dont meta me shit" i dont give a damn about what you think about that, i want to see it anyway.

Newbie 1524

[BlueBloodedToffee]

GC, how is your ISO review going?

Ika, did you find anything useful out of the useless meta you asked for?

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Firstly, I think it's a little harsh for GC to be taking the flak for this.

It's not like you only had 1 day to catch scum, this was D5.

i wish you fuckign waited for me......

i was waiting for DR to make his vote first....

I also thought you had made it pretty clear you were OK with lynching Fish.

at least i was right on bbt and that i onw know a special tell in his meta

Nah, you don't.

You only thought I was scum because I was trying to get you lynched. I quoted it for you and everything, you actually had no reasons for me being scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks for modding Majiffy, really enjoyed the game.

Town we unlucky with the PR's pretty much all outing themselves.

A lot more of my thoughts on the game are at the end of the scum QT.

Good game guys.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I figured as much in the scum QT.

We messed up as well. If I had carried out the kill instead of Who's slot your BP wouldn't have worked anyway.