Mini 1631 - Mafia with a Twist 3 (It's Over!)

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vote: STD

feels great, man

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Because this will happen eventually.

NS is the biggest liability ever. He WILL get lynched eventually. He will certainly not be night killed. Might as well get it over with now.

Varsoon at least has the potential to veer into that rare readable or useful territory.

ooh baby. this post gets me rock hard.

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that three pages was a JOURNEY

I was reading the flashwagon on me going what the FUCK I'm voting orci then I saw the orci votes then I saw that post of Reck's

I just don't even know what to do

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SKrew

u scum bb?

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I'm going to ignore Reck until later so we don't spend the whole game yelling at each other

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meta is trash

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come at me bro

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oh

unvote: STD

I hated his vote on me, but it's not a strong enough reason for a vote

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and you don't know what to do

I have a lot of feelings

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Book is incredibly scum right now and this is who we are lynching day 1

this is a picture of my dog in a bowtie.

it is still not as adorable as your post where you think you're going to direct the town

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I love your spirit though

you're the leading wagon currently and you're sitting here telling us who we're lynching today

atm it's you honeybun

but I'm not one to follow trends so ima shamelessly follow Reck onto the NSPLROLFWTFBBQ

vote: Nobody Special

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ps. ns, why do you still join games on this account? use a fucking alt. you're an endless distraction in every fucking game you play in

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Untrod, can a man not change his ways?
Also, it seems like you're trying to say that Nobody Special is... somebody special.

I'm sorry you drew scum

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I dont have a problem with orci, farside

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are we finally going to be friends Reck

are we

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you can use the [youtube] tag to post videos directly

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stop bussing me, STD

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anyway it's really weird that you're poking at his read on me rather than anyone else?

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the last game we played together I scumread you the WHOLE game and was totally wrong

please don't waste my time on that again

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games within games, bro

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you are

I'm not nearly that slick

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I'm not sure what to do with this piece of information.

masturbate

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murderdeathkill

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skrew

can we be a posse again

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dude

do you even have the slightest shred of self-awareness?

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Except NS is still scummy

NS comes in and in 119 just snarks at people and still provides nothing of value, do I have any more takers for the NS policylynch?

still not necessarily suspicious, but worth policy lynching

Just to be clear: NS had a chance to actually comment on anything that happened in the past six pages, here, and instead made a joke about how he's useless.

enforcing policy

etc. etc. etc.

is he scummy because him being alive is detrimental to the town or is he scummy because you have reason to believe he is scum?

motherfucker we are trying to clean house here before we actually start the goddamn game

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if that were the case I would just be masturbating all over the thread

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@skrew

I'm waiting until at least after d1 on reck

I was waiting on NS to make sure the PL was necessary D1

I was actually thinking of someone else >_>

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I would not at all be surprised at a Reck/UT/Skrew scumteam.

this is kind of lazy of you :/

never played with NS before, have you

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yep

still want NS to die

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I want to lynch Flames too, now

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LET'S DO IT

VOTE: Flames

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unvote

Vote: Flames

fuck you

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Definitely worth getting all the info out there though

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we could totes do mathcam's idea with the rest

y'know

just a thought

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I got not mafia

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STD go next

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hey guys

hey guys

hey guys

can we fucking get on with it please

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can we finish claiming our shit now?

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SleepyKrew not mafia

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vote: Nobody Special

can we finally fucking do this

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ugh

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UT can we plz just shut our brains off and use mathcam's super duper computer program to freeroll our way to victory

mmk

who's up first?

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vote: Bookitty

under the argument of maths being hard

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Uhhhh that is only 4 votes?

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Yes

Sry

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that is an INTENSELY shitty argument

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look, I'm on record as saying I HATE NS the player (not the person, just how he acts in mafia games)

I don't even allow him into my modded games because I think he fosters a bad game environment. on multiple occasions in the past I have argued in favor of lynching him just to get it out of the way. I get that you have a 2013 join date, but that's the fucking history.

I don't even think it's particularly alignment indicative. I'd say it as town or scum.

it's just a profoundly shitty argument that you're making.

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I guess what I'm trying to say is that arguing to policy lynch NS is not indicative of alignment, just the fact that you've played a game with him before

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I haven't seen UT do much of anything all game.

you're right, but my girl has been in town and I've been working etc.

I have some more time now

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mathcam caught with his pants down reacting to a fake hammer is lookin bad

also i didnt fake it on purpose i legit thought it was a hammer but uh WHOOPS looks like we caught scum anyway?

I'm not sure I follow how we caught him?

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I usually try to maintain alignment skepticism about lynches I participate in? I dunno I'm just not finding that to be particularly damning

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meh

my reaction to a lynch is rarely "IF TOWN LYNCH THIS PERSON IF SCUM LYNCH THIS PERSON"

Unless, ykno, I'm scum trying to chain lynches off the back of a mislynch

I see that ALL THE FUCKING TIME

how have you not

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I haven't seen UT do much of anything all game.

you're right, but my girl has been in town and I've been working etc.

I have some more time now

That's fair enough, but you still posted a lot.

it's how I try to not let myself fall behind the game

but you're right. I need to dig in more. and I will.

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reck I swear to god if you're scum

there will be hell to pay

what do you think is the upside of a scum player going through his whole math thing? just to create the illusion of scumhunting by literally generating IIoA oh god he's scum isn't he

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I think it's worth noting that mathcam claimed a guilty on orcinius

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hammer incoming

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I can't shake the feeling that I'm getting rolled here

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oh, varsoon was just baiting the hammer

you cheeky scumfuck

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I'm kind of following Reck's logic on two more flips giving us better info to base our analysis on

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reckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I'm so unsure

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I would have been pretty suspicious if his original numbers were "these are the numbers with me as assumed town"

just saying

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Reck/UT's suggestion to wait for 2 more flips is pretty silly, considering tomorrow might be LyLo.

I just said I could see the logic in it, not that I'm personally endorsing it

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UT bby pls

You said you wanted Reck the Steely, Reck the Unbreakable, Reck the Rock

Well HE'S HERE, HOLDING HIS HAND OUT, SINGIN'

ALLLLWAYYYS
I WANT TO BEEEE WITH YOU
AND MAKE BELIEEEEVE WITH YOU
AND LIVE IN HARMONY, HARMONY, ALWAYS

against my better judgement



mathcam's push on Bookitty seemed off to me. all of his posting this game has been very objective number-crunchy kind of stuff, but the best thing he had to say about boo was "she feels off to me". it doesn't really jive.



so, here you go Reck. if you're rolling me then YOU PICKED THE RIGHT FUCKING SONG BECAUSE I HAD A BUNCH OF GIFS FROM THE VIDEO WAITING TO BE USED.

VOTE: mathcam



sorry if you're town, cam. you're always a joy to play with. let's do it again real soon.

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I want to puzzle out some stuff before I hammer (or don't, as the case may be)

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guys can we lynch varsoon

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UNVOTE:
What makes UT not-scum?

stuff it

your soft omgus is pathetic

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HUH I WONDER IF THAT INDICATES ANYTHING

POSSIBLY MY TOWN ALIGNMENT

WHO KNOWS

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also you trying to bait the hammer was pretty lulz

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and yes I know that it was on scum, but it looked p bussy

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then fucking vote me instead of doing that soft omgus bullshit

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POINT THE GUN AT ME YOLANDA

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sorry that was the wrong image.

anyway, enough with the wishy washy bullshit. either vote for me or don't. don't wait for someone with more clout to make the case for you.

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why does me not letting easy wagons go indicate my alignment?

I dunno man why don't you puzzle that one out yourself

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It's also totes weird that you're telling me to slam vote on you instead of being wishy washy when you called for my lynch without a vote just a page ago. :3

the key difference is that I hammered scum yesterday when I totally could have gotten away with not doing so.

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okay I just need to not fuck today up since tomorrow will be lylo if I do

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also consider this for my townliness:

I'm letting this wagon sit for fucking ever when I could have hammered it and gone "yep! we need more info" with no one looking at me funny

like, this line of play does not at all make sense if serra is town and I am scum

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serra is a fucking dude, reck

you of all people....

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dude, I played a lot of magic back in the day and I don't get that mixed up

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so these are the remaining possible scumteams based on mathcam's info (which I don't really see a real reason why he would falsify?)

Spoiler: teams

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}
{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

BooK: 6
Reck: 1
Var: 1
HB: 4
serra: 4
STD: 3
UT: 3

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I kind of think bookitty might be the play today? she seems like a pretty unlikely scum considering yesterday, but honestly I think it makes the most sense. lynching serra leaves everyone on the table tomorrow if she flips town.

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vote: Bookitty

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if bookitty flips town she takes Var and Reck off the table, leaving me with a coinflip between serra HB and STD, but that's def better than the alternative

unless I napkin mathed it wrong, I think Boo is the only lynch that will actually give us info. given that we have a lynch to burn this is definitely the thing to do.

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Fuck it, I'll just do a set for each lynch.

Spoiler: Lynching Reck

{BooK, Reck, math}

{BooK, math, Var}
{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

So obviously if reck flips scum we have exactly one scumteam left, so easy.

If reck flips town then we've learned exactly nothing.

Spoiler: lynching Bookitty

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}

{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}

I detailed this above. Bookitty flipping scum would be be kind of unhelpful, but we would at least be able to lynch out from there.

I really think this is the lynch today because it's the only one that actually provides us with info.

Spoiler: Lynching Var

{BooK, Reck, math}

{BooK, math, Var}

{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

Literally the same as lynching reck.

Spoiler: Lynching HB

{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{BooK, math, HB}

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

Doesn't eliminate anyone from consideration.

Spoiler: Lynching serra

{math, HB, serra}
{math, serra, STD}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, serra}

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}
{math, HB, STD}
{UT, math, HB}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, STD}
{BooK, UT, math}

Doesn't eliminate anyone either.

Spoiler: lynching STD

{math, serra, STD}
{math, HB, STD}
{BooK, math, STD}

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}
{math, HB, serra}
{UT, math, HB}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, UT, math}

Doesn't eliminate anyone.

Spoiler: lynching UT

{UT, math, HB}
{UT, math, serra}
{BooK, UT, math}

{BooK, Reck, math}
{BooK, math, Var}
{math, HB, serra}
{math, HB, STD}
{math, serra, STD}
{BooK, math, HB}
{BooK, math, serra}
{BooK, math, STD}

Doesn't eliminate anyone

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So feel free to explain to me why this is wrong, but as far as I can tell Bookitty is the only lynch that actually generates information and will help us make a more informed decision tomorrow. serra is literally just a shot in the dark.

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Let's not rush though. I want to see if I can reproduce those figures tomorrow. Cam might have been lying

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well hypothetically scum would be in the best position to massage the lynches and kills to make it so town players are the "best" lynches before lylo, so I think it's entirely possible that cam was entirely truthful

I will go through the cop results today and see if I can suss something out (though I will be the first to admit that this sort of thing is not my forte

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The issue with saving this til tomorrow and lynching me today is that you still have the same coin flip between them. I think Honey bee is more likely town; others feel the opposite. That isn't going to change (barring a nightkill of one of them) by lynching me today. If the game can be mathematically solved by my flip, though, I'm all for that. If not, then I don't want to waste our last possible mislynch on someone I know to be town (me).

again, we literally learn NOTHING by lynching anyone else

this is a shitty argument you're making

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holy fuck

lynching you has the highest expected value

what about this are you not getting

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if you flip town we have two CONFIRMED TOWN

if you flip scum then CONGRATS WE LYNCHED SCUM

with literally every other player in the game, lynching them clears no one if we've chosen wrong

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How? Mathcam said I was scum and tried to lynch me even though his own figures said others were more likely to be scum. So yeah, if you're going to lynch me, I want to know HOW it's going to help town. Can you give any specifics?

See, telling me I have this huge percentage chance to be scum means NOTHING to me because I know I'm not. It's like saying "You have a greater than average chance to be female based on my statistical analysis." If you're not, the statistics aren't going to mean a damn thing to you.

If lynching me gives you enough information to catch the scum, I'm for it. If not, then I'm going to try to catch scum today.

And ninja'd: I haven't figured out who the two confirmed town would be; however, if it's obvious, then I guess you would only have one tomorrow, right?

rtft

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feeling better about this lynch with every post Bookitty makes tbqh

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ffs reck

COUNT

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Okay. I'm fine with it, then. But it's on you to find the actual scum and to win this game for town. I don't want any crap after the game about how I "let" myself be lynched and that was why town lost. Agreed?

DID YOU NOT READ THE PART WHERE YOUR TOWN FLIP CONFIRMS TWO PLAYERS AS TOWN

BECAUSE LIKE

THAT SEEMS GOOD IF YOU'RE TOWN I DUNNO CONFIRMED TOWN PLAYERS ARE P GOOD TO HAVE

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like, look, I'm completely up front about this being a strictly EV move

it's not because of a scumread I have on bookitty (although it'd be pretty funny if dueling wagons yesterday were both on scum?)

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tldr

also i just woke up after drinking copious amounts of Bärenjäger last night so you can hashtag handle it

why not just drink Drambuie and hit yourself in the face with a hammer?

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why?

isn't that like, exactly what you'd want to do as scum? if you're the only two people on the table set the other person up as "almost def not his buddy"?

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why not just drink Drambuie and hit yourself in the face with a hammer?

i have standards

uhhhh you're friends with me

no you don't

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but seriously

UNVOTE:

don't rush the hammer. we can still brain this to make sure we're not fucking up.

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these are literally the only two outcomes of lynching bookitty:

1. You and Varsoon are confirmed town
2. We lynch scum

I do not understand why this does not appeal to you

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reck

be straight with me here

are you scum

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I swear to god if you say "I can't be straight because I'm gay" I will punch you through the internet

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I can't be straight because I'm gay

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nigga I'm multitasking

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yeah I can read

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can we get a 3rd vote so I can hammah plz

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UT why didn't you vote Boo when you did the math

dude

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varsoon

please

I'm creating a mood

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^ dis bitch is thirsty

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you want this hammer baby?



I see you shiver



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VOTE: Bookitty

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thanks towlie

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don't ruin the afterglow

you're being that girl who wants to snuggle or get a towel or whatever while I'm just admiring the jackson pollack I just did on her face

please

just let me have this

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Vsgyhujjdcfghy78sgdyujhnfgryu89ehy8disxkmsndhy58ndhry78

YOU WERENT YOU WERE SO FUCKING SCUM I WAS JUST WAITING UNTIL IT WAS SAFE TO TURN AHJDNHUJDSNDHFUDJNHUDSJHDUDJEHRFUJ

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The rage in my heart cannot be defined in english

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reck with the CLUTCH shot on me

seriously dude

you were a goner

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We could have, Serra

We were almost there