Mini 1619 - Antihero: REDEMPTION [GAME OVER]

T S O · Post Post #35 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:03 pm

Hello.

T S O · Post Post #37 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:10 pm

Why didn't you say hello back?

T S O · Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:09 pm

is it now?

T S O · Post Post #69 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:02 am

In post 50, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:TSO, what are your thoughts on this?

Doubt scum-Beast would do it - but I could, in a weird way, see scum-Beast doing it for that specific purpose.

Townlean.

T S O · Post Post #71 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:44 am

vote: anatole

T S O · Post Post #74 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:49 am

etl - yes, but not the heavy conftown yes you gave it.

T S O · Post Post #75 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:50 am

Anatole apparently feels I tunnel him or something (even though we've only played together where I caught him as scum in Mountainous and didn't ever push him in ACM as Town, so...).

T S O · Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:54 am

actually we also played together as town where I also didn't pushed him in FtL.

idk why he thinks I tunnel him.

pedit: oh, cool beans.

T S O · Post Post #79 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:54 am

just SM and Ward for me.

T S O · Post Post #81 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:55 am

That's the spirit, Anatole!

T S O · Post Post #84 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:00 am

I just thought he was accusing me and got my defence in first. I'm just a paranoid motherfucker, I guess.

T S O · Post Post #107 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:09 am

yes I always do, etl. it's a character quirk which is also a character flaw.

T S O · Post Post #108 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:09 am

what's your q again?

T S O · Post Post #110 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:12 am

yes but Chosen was Chosen. this is reboot!

T S O · Post Post #111 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:12 am

I mean Redemption!

T S O · Post Post #115 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:32 am

unvote
vote: tolemeister

T S O · Post Post #116 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:33 am

if tolemeister votes don't count I'm seriously considering replacing out of this game.

T S O · Post Post #120 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:27 am

In post 117, Antihero wrote:
anything for you, tso

also, that nickname is pretty goofy

xx

T S O · Post Post #122 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:31 am

T S O · Post Post #136 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:37 am

T S O · Post Post #139 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:33 am

Tolemeister asks you a question, you respond in GODDAMN doubletime, Majiffy!

T S O · Post Post #141 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:35 am

Majiffy is likely to forget his place at some stage, my lord.

T S O · Post Post #158 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:09 am

Think mollie's p town.

T S O · Post Post #177 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:03 pm

it makes me a little sad that people in this game have to be scum

'cept ward, of course.

T S O · Post Post #191 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:13 pm

That used to be me too, Ward.

Mastin = mastin2.

T S O · Post Post #192 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:13 pm

ns go easy on him

T S O · Post Post #194 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:19 pm

Instead of defending myself before the attack, I'm simply doing the same for him.

":"

T S O · Post Post #197 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:49 pm

GUYS LET'S NOT GANG UP ON HIM UNTIL AT LEAST PAGE 12

T S O · Post Post #199 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:56 pm

because I feel a strange paternal bond with my boy Ward.

T S O · Post Post #201 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:23 pm

ap how the hell did you push that guilty through on thor

etl how the hell did you then piggybank off pushing thor and end up winning?

T S O · Post Post #203 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:27 pm

I agree with you, really, but I still have no idea how they pulled it off.

T S O · Post Post #205 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:34 pm

that was a p nasty scumteam though

T S O · Post Post #228 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:22 am

ns we can talk. why is our relationship like/hate atm?

T S O · Post Post #232 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:57 am

ms can be town too

T S O · Post Post #234 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:07 am

no, he can be town.

T S O · Post Post #239 (isolation #35) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:17 am

Are you high?

I was scumreading BBT? That's why I died n1?

T S O · Post Post #240 (isolation #36) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:18 am

#826 and #827 show me clearly stating that read right before d1's end.

come again pls

T S O · Post Post #245 (isolation #37) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:23 am

Go on, ETL, the only thing you'll find is your slot badly misreading me.

T S O · Post Post #246 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:24 am

Are you calling me scum, by the way? Because it's really not clear and I'd like to know.

T S O · Post Post #249 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:34 am

I didn't deflect anything? And I didn't insult/stir shit?

You said I was calling Flubber and BBT town in Chosen, so my opinion was invalid.
I clearly refuted your assertion by showing my suspicions on BBT.
Now apparently because I gave you shit about Flubber, I'm the bad guy here?

Cool beans, ETL. Cool beans. Except this time I've literally done nothing, so I don't feel particularly guilty.

T S O · Post Post #251 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:36 am

MS's suspicion and vote of you are town in the way they're done. You don't like it because they're on you and that blinds you.

Ward has done nothing yet to really make me suspect him and I don't really feel like gifting scum a d1 newbie mislynch unless I have reason to participate.

T S O · Post Post #254 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:37 am

And, sorry for have a tendency to clash, I guess? I have no idea why we would be clashing yet, but like, that's none of my business.

T S O · Post Post #255 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:38 am

i think {gg, ms, ak, mollie} are probs town.

T S O · Post Post #256 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:38 am

actually I can see a world where gg could be scum. back them out of that there townblock for now.

T S O · Post Post #261 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:47 am

I am not townreading Ward, by the way. I'm just not scumreading him.

re: ms - I'll probably get my thoughts up more in a bit because I need a shower.

T S O · Post Post #338 (isolation #45) » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:48 am

okay.

so I broke my lcd and 3/4 of my screen is completely and utterly fucked. I should really get it replaced but by sheer luck I've managed to manoeuvre Chrome into this tiny screen segment, allowing me to play Mafia/do other stuff.

and this would work fine, except that I'm struggling to read this game right now because it has a lot of undertones which require pretty much all my attention to even try to decipher. the reason I've mentioned the screen is that it makes all these posts, and these pages, incredibly long.

As such, I don't have a comment on anything right now, though I've read everything up to now. My mind hasn't really wrapped around much and all I feel like commenting is surface issues. fuck that.

nothing to say until I get another medium, which should be damn soon.

pedit: notscience! this is a magical time! cherish it! positive mantra #3!

T S O · Post Post #577 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:19 pm

Excuse #2 - we're moving house tomorrow so my access is doubtful.

I promise you guys, eventually a catch-up will be done. I've still read everything.

T S O · Post Post #578 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:21 pm

etl's rage doesn't ring true
mollie is town
bert is waaaaay too fluffy
Tolemeister is town
haven't read ms in ages
sthar feels strange and a little off, actually more than a little.

T S O · Post Post #579 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:21 pm

a lot of mollie's thought processes ring a bell w/ mine atm, fwiw.

T S O · Post Post #580 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:21 pm

Ward you need to post - I am no longer your champion.

T S O · Post Post #581 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:22 pm

as my mafia ambitions go beating this playerlist as scum would be right up there. Really.

T S O · Post Post #582 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:23 pm

I wanted to say something else but can't think.

T S O · Post Post #583 (isolation #52) » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:24 pm

oh yeah

tolemeister it's not really an adult's game with me riding shotgun jsyk

T S O · Post Post #629 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:32 am

Catching up.

T S O · Post Post #636 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:31 am

unvote

T S O · Post Post #638 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:51 am

Nope!

T S O · Post Post #640 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:36 am

Do you feel I should be?

T S O · Post Post #643 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 pm

Finished p11.

ETL's transition from her saying MS is scum, me saying he's towm and her going straight to a discredit from Chosen (which is also wrong) is all kinds of weird and I don't know how I'm meant to take it.

T S O · Post Post #644 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:13 pm

give me time big guy

T S O · Post Post #645 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:22 pm

In post 328, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Forced, careful, unnatural

See, this is why the Tolemeister is town.

In post 330, notscience wrote:Bert are you scum

In post 332, notscience wrote:Yes

Your scum role pm does too

VOTE: bert

This is why ns is town.

In post 343, beastcharizard wrote:
In post 298, mastin2 wrote:
In post 177, T S O wrote:it makes me a little sad that people in this game have to be scum
'cept ward, of course.
Could always policy-lynch the non-awesome people!

In post 171, pirate mollie wrote:4 year olds are human beings too, etl!
Town.

VOTE: Ward.

Well this post totally fucked up my Ward scum read.

VOTE: mastin2

I don't like how you are playing.

This is why Beast is town.

In post 346, Bert wrote:
In post 338, T S O wrote:so I broke my lcd and 3/4 of my screen is completely and utterly fucked. I should really get it replaced but by sheer luck I've managed to manoeuvre Chrome into this tiny screen segment, allowing me to play Mafia/do other stuff.

what a mafia legend

The undertones are pretty tough with a huge ASUS display. I don't know how you do it, man

Bert. I

want

need to preface this by telling you I love you...

...but I think you're scum here.

VOTE: Bert

T S O · Post Post #646 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:23 pm

I agree with everything mastin is saying for a change. This probably means she's scum, oh well.
I think mollie's town too.

T S O · Post Post #647 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:23 pm

I'm still maintaining my MS townread. It's not that strong but it's definitely there.

Who does that leave me with?

T S O · Post Post #648 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:24 pm

LC, Ward, Guyett, GG, I think.

T S O · Post Post #649 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:25 pm

Ward hasn't really posted much alignment indicative stuff. Null.
Neither has Guyett. Null too.

T S O · Post Post #650 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:26 pm

Errr, I haven't actually analysed the game fully, I'm only at p16 atm.

T S O · Post Post #653 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:27 pm

I constantly get the urge to call the LC hydra Sthar, though Jingle is also integral. No idea why.

T S O · Post Post #654 (isolation #66) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:27 pm

Probably!

T S O · Post Post #656 (isolation #67) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:29 pm

Bert is very, very fluffy here and hasn't posted anything which really looks town, unless you're a god-level Bertmeta person the fluff isn't readable and that's all there is.

T S O · Post Post #657 (isolation #68) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:30 pm

I feel guilty for scumreading Bert. Goddamn.

T S O · Post Post #658 (isolation #69) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:32 pm

The GG and LC hydras are...

I feel that at least one of them is creating an elaborate facsimile of their town play. I feel there's little cracks showing which betray the image. I don't feel they're both town.

T S O · Post Post #661 (isolation #70) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:33 pm

Majiffy! Knew I'd forgot someone.

Give me a minute.

T S O · Post Post #662 (isolation #71) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:34 pm

In post 235, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
In post 234, T S O wrote:no, he can be town.

That's not how this works. If I remember correctly, you also thought Flubber and BBT were town. So unless you have some better reason for believing so, your opinion has already been stated and rejected.

In post 247, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:OH hey TSO, I just reread your whole ISO, and what was your response to our suspicion on the flubber slot? It was for you to give us so much fucking shit I wanted to choke the life out of you. That's what. Anti and I had to beat the flubber drum until it made sense to you. So please do not give me crap, because I can already feel it starting and I don't feel like wasting time arguing fucking semantics. If you have a real reason to believe MS and Ward are town, then you can tell me. I've already implied that I want to know why you think so, and instead you deflect it.

In post 243, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 235, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
In post 234, T S O wrote:no, he can be town.

That's not how this works. If I remember correctly, you also thought Flubber and BBT were town. So unless you have some better reason for believing so, your opinion has already been stated and rejected.

you also thought i was town as scum

T__________T

Yeah. And we all know people don't learn anything about how a person plays after seeing their scum game. /sarcasm

I made a very specific comment that you refused to respond to with anything other than a vote on us. You question nothing. Comment on nothing else. Make no other pushes and you don't even explain your vote. And I'll tell you why - because there's nothing to explain it
other than
OMGUS.

In post 244, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 237, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
In post 236, Anatole Kuragin wrote:You people are throwing out townreads like they're junebugs on your screendoor.

And this bothers you?

Yeah I think you guys are probably putting on blinders based on meta and sweet talking.

So do you not have any townreads at all? No one that you even slightly think is probably town?

ETL

In post 282, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:like, you gave some comment about being endgamed and tried to tell me that you dont get endgamed because you dont "give scum townreads". I said i don't see how those are related at all, and you act like i'm a fucking moron or something who doesn't know how to read. not appreciated. i'm having a dialogue with you and you insult me.

In post 283, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:What the fuck do you think scum are going to do with townreads?! I mean jesus.... I'm trying to figure out what kind of thought process you're having because it will give me an idea about whether you're town or scum and instead of actually interacting with me like a human being you're treating me like I'm the jackass. Obviously your response didn't answer my question or I wouldn't have fucking posted it again.

goddamn.

ETL's red flags, fwiw.

T S O · Post Post #664 (isolation #72) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:36 pm

Apart from wagonjumping I don't see it, big S - you'll have to sell me.

PEdit: did she?

T S O · Post Post #665 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:41 pm

I read Chosen v quickly.

And I felt her anger was either a lot more justified or had a lot better of buildup than here.

T S O · Post Post #669 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:44 pm

I don't have enough solid scumreads, so I'm mistownreading people.

Fuck.

T S O · Post Post #671 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:46 pm

In post 668, Bert wrote:ETL is null, rages as either alignment!

Be back after hween. Make sure to not scare kiddos!!!!

/mobile

I was out egging with my friends!

In post 667, Lying Cat wrote:Yeah. I'm mobile and therefore not fact checking rn but she absolutely missed the point of at least one of my arguments and got aggressive over it. And she used the proficiency discredit a couple times.
P-edit but she's having outside-the-game issues here.

Mmm. I'll need to scummeta her before I commit to any kind of townread.

Why are you scumreading Majiffy again?

T S O · Post Post #673 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:57 pm

You're scumreading Sonic too?

T S O · Post Post #674 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:57 pm

Blegh.

T S O · Post Post #677 (isolation #78) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:03 pm

It's Ireland, sthar. Halloween is quite literally egging, lighting fireworks and being chased by cops.

If you don't do it, you're kinda seen as an outcast.

T S O · Post Post #679 (isolation #79) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:14 pm

They do, I guess.

It's not morally right, I know, but societal pressures negate that.

It's just how it is - the houses are egged with or without me.

T S O · Post Post #684 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:30 pm

In post 681, Lying Cat wrote:Go ahead and consider the philosophical implications of that stance for a minute.

(and before Jingle chimes in, I'll confess that I've thrown plenty of eggs)

Is your Bert read more or less substantial than my jiffy one?

Errr.

I do what is wrong though I know it is wrong as I weigh my social status greater than my moralities in and regarding that situation?

T S O · Post Post #685 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:32 pm

I have many arguments for this all probably somewhat flawed, fwiw.

It's only 1 day a year, one night a day, Sthar.

Besides, perhaps my being there is an ethical stabiliser for them.

T S O · Post Post #686 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:32 pm

Although not really at all but it's a nice thought.

T S O · Post Post #687 (isolation #83) » Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:34 pm

Yeah, my scumpool remains {LC, GG, Jiffy, Bert}.

Night all.

T S O · Post Post #780 (isolation #84) » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:08 pm

Why aren't we discussing Bert?

T S O · Post Post #798 (isolation #85) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:22 am

This game got strange this page.

T S O · Post Post #807 (isolation #86) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:37 am

ak? nah

T S O · Post Post #816 (isolation #87) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:39 am

In post 809, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:Fuck I just typed up a post to mollie and lost it when my phone lost service.

Tldr: what is there not to get about ms. His interactions with etl don't look town motivated. Do you disagree?

Re lull: meh. It's Halloween weekend. I do expect more excitement from ns but yeh.

yeah I do

T S O · Post Post #818 (isolation #88) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:01 pm

unvote

T S O · Post Post #819 (isolation #89) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:02 pm

One of {mastin, GG. LC} is almost certainly scum.

T S O · Post Post #838 (isolation #90) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:00 am

T S O · Post Post #881 (isolation #91) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:49 am

The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

T S O · Post Post #887 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:52 am

In post 883, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 881, T S O wrote:The bit where the fence penetrates your arse

That means a lot from you considering you're not voting anyone and I'm leading a wagon on scum.

But, here's the thing: that point has literally

no

relevance to your read on Flubber. None. That's called a discredit, Tolemeister.

T S O · Post Post #896 (isolation #93) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:56 am

No, you didn't.

AK: Flubber is weird. Insert fencesit. Finish fencesit.
GG: Do you ever plan to sort their read?
AK: When did I ever say I didn't?
TSO: When you were fencesitting.
AK: You've got no vote on anyone, therefore your opinion is invalid.
TSO: If only that was relevant.
AK: What's going on again?

T S O · Post Post #919 (isolation #94) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:11 am

In post 905, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 904, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 899, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 896, T S O wrote:No, you didn't.

AK: Flubber is weird. Insert fencesit. Finish fencesit.
GG: Do you ever plan to sort their read?
AK: When did I ever say I didn't?
TSO: When you were fencesitting.
AK: You've got no vote on anyone, therefore your opinion is invalid.
TSO: If only that was relevant.
AK: What's going on again?

Yeah I also like to make up imaginary shit when I can't deal with real life

like, I seriously can't even address this in a serious manner to this TSO because you seriously just made it all up

my brain is falling apart from how dumb this is TSO

no literally, that's what happened. your reading comprehension is either horrendously stunted or you're trolling.

T S O · Post Post #924 (isolation #95) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:18 am

In post 920, Anatole Kuragin wrote:TSO, someone said "flubber is weird"

I said "he's always weird"

where is the fence sit?

this point changes the first line a little and

everything else is the exact same

T S O · Post Post #928 (isolation #96) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:21 am

My townreads on almost everyone have been decimated, 'cept maybe mollie.

T S O · Post Post #930 (isolation #97) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:25 am

My work here is done Time to head back to the scum QT with my stripper.

T S O · Post Post #936 (isolation #98) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:43 am

fucking scumslip

T S O · Post Post #937 (isolation #99) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:43 am

vote: guyett

T S O · Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:44 am

I was so serious for a while but now I've reset into softtroll-TSO.

Too much dopamine. Needs more maturity.

T S O · Post Post #976 (isolation #101) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:04 pm

The slip wasn't serious. Vote on Guyett stays.

T S O · Post Post #977 (isolation #102) » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:05 pm

Rather disturbing that ETL told us she always reads him right, called him town, and passively never mentioned that again, but w/e.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:36 am

unvote
vote: gg

nuuh-uh.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:37 am

This has been coming for a while. ETL's last post was the final straw.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:44 am

I'm not sure I can agree there, sozzles.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:44 am

Unvote
vote: Majiffy

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:45 am

^can we just fucking do this, please?

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:00 am

I would have -loved- to roll scum and win here. As Mafia dreams go, this would p much have been it.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:09 am

idrm tbh; like I would expect everyone to be townreading me at this stage regardless. that comment is true.

you would be surprised at how difficult I find cheekiness as scum. I do it, a lot, but it's rather thought out.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:09 am

For this one, special game - I would not have posted that as scum because people often see it as a scum comment and above all, I would not want to be caught here.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:13 am

I don't really mind.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:14 am

...is idrm.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:18 am

I want mastin to be town, because it's not that she's unlynchable as scum, but it would be such a fucking effort to actually somehow push the lynch through that metaphorical suicide is genuinely an alternative which I'd consider. (please no-one give me a righteous remark.)

I -think- she could be town, too, but a little part of me is saying no. Not committing to anything.

T S O · Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:18 am

I think {mollie, ns} is a very solid townblock which I strongly believe in.

T S O · Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:21 am

In post 1148, Bert wrote:
I have no idea how to distinguish in past games TSO's town and scum play. Helped mislynch him in the only game from the past that I can recall, on D1.

Actually, no. We played in one of my very first games together in Open 501: Stacking the Deck of Power, where you replaced out and then I replaced out. Then we played in Newbie 1436, where Town mislynched me d1. Our last game together was Newbie 1461, where scum-you got lynched d1 by a wagon pushed almost solely by me.

Tut tut, Bert.

T S O · Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:21 am

{AK, NS, mollie} still a townbloc I approve of.

T S O · Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:30 am

In post 1197, Bert wrote:Past games: You forgot about Mini 1462 which you replaced out of. I forgot about 1461 or that you were in 501!

VOTE: GG

Following Tolemeista and Sonic Boom

DANGIT

T S O · Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:38 am

posting images makes me sad because the screen segment only shows the left quarter of the image and it's shit.

T S O · Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:47 am

I really need to learn how to play Mafia and not state my townreads in case I come off as scum buddying them.

T S O · Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:11 am

yo gg what exactly is your read on me

T S O · Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:22 pm

vote: beast

T S O · Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:22 pm

As serious a vote as I've placed all game.

T S O · Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:00 am

In post 1469, Flubbernugget wrote:@mod isn't that technically Trent Reznor?

STOP FUCKING PROD DODGING BEAST

AND YOU, MS, AND YOU LC

T S O · Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:52 am

Hmmm.

T S O · Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:06 am

I admittedly can't read him for my shit but I think he's town.

And I'm really beginning to think Beast is scum.

T S O · Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:07 am

Oh, I've not liked

anything

that LC has done.

Can you two give me a readlist? Something? Anything to alleviate the paranoia I feel from you pushing mediocre wagons in a mediocre fashion?

T S O · Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:31 am

go ahead and fucking vote me

T S O · Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:14 pm

the somewhat bad rushed state of #1583 make me more comfortable with lc.

can we get a bc wagon? pls.

T S O · Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:05 am

ns if you pull this shit once more then you will be utility lynched d1 and I will be on that train.

so fucking quit with this nonsense - lynch time is NOT when you should be pulling ate.

T S O · Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:51 am

give me a while to re-read.

T S O · Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:12 pm

vote: ns

T S O · Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:12 pm

I could actually see fluffy scum doing what you are doing - but really I'm just sick of the act and not putting up with it for another day. Sorry, ns. You made your choice.

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:10 am

jesus christ

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:10 am

@Thor: my vote was explained, in the post with my vote.

@GG: I'm ...not heavily scumreading LC.

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:13 am

I really hate the stances mastin's taking regarding the lynches because I don't agree with them at all. Thor's opening is bleh. Notscience is still playing shit, Metal Sonic is lurking like a little fucking girl...

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:15 am

...and I'm going with the latter there because I've recently caught scum who were doing the exact same as Metal. Plus, my townread on him died years ago.

unvote
vote: ms

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:15 am

I presumed it was some sort of reaction test and didn't waste time pushing it back. She's still probs town.

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:15 am

gg coullllld be scum but don't want to lynch them today. flubber's play has also been insipid.

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:16 am

{mastin, Thor, MS, NS, Beast} is the pool I'd lynch today, but less than half of those are actually viable. meh.

T S O · Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:28 am

In post 1692, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
In post 1685, T S O wrote:@Thor: my vote was explained, in the post with my vote.

@GG: I'm ...not heavily scumreading LC.

Not the impression I got. Why the sudden switch on ms after giving me so much crap for it? I dont understand.

because ms has done absolutely nothing since then and it wasn't even a strong townread.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:22 am

he's scum.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:23 am

but nice try, Thor. you managed to bully Bert into voting me but it won't work for anyone else.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:24 am

In post 1784, Thor665 wrote:I didn't explain anything - I even said a few posts back that i didn't explain anything.

My read is basically this - when I replace in and ask for his case he gets snooty and claims he already made it.
He didn't.
He extremely vaguely explained it thereafter but, basically, was just calling the playstyle generically bad without really describing the scum plan behind it.

no that literally did not happen.

[quote="In post 1784, Thor665"That makes TSO a mix of a liar/useless player.
That makes him a pretty excellent vote to my mind.
Sheep me since we have basically no time.[/quote]

WE'VE GOT NO TIME VOTE THE WAGON WHICH ISN'T A WAGON

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:24 am

fuck you quote.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:30 am

In post 1743, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1611, T S O wrote:
vote: ns

Ooooh, and here's the NS case.

Apparently the MS case is - lurking.

The NS case is...who knows?

Meh and double meh.

Like this is such a fucking misrep! I did fucking explain my ns vote! He was doing. fucking. nothing. Sthar went through this as well!

Why did you pretend I naked voted NS when I didn't?

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:30 am

In post 1598, T S O wrote:ns if you pull this shit once more then you will be utility lynched d1 and I will be on that train.

so fucking quit with this nonsense - lynch time is NOT when you should be pulling ate.

In post 1612, T S O wrote:I could actually see fluffy scum doing what you are doing - but really I'm just sick of the act and not putting up with it for another day. Sorry, ns. You made your choice.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:31 am

Can you say, specifically, why I am scum?

Because all you're doing is moving goalposts.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:32 am

Is it naked voting? Can you actually be specific and stop calling me scum for my Beast vote, ns vote and MS vote? Thanks.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:33 am

So Sthar is scum too, yeah? Because he did the same thing as me, with the same justification, so that slot is scum as well.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:34 am

But your description of my vote is, again, making it out to be far worse than it was.

Did you really think you could push this lynch through by a combination of bullshit and fearmongering?

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:36 am

You're really not.

You still haven't explained what specific vote makes me scum - do you think you'll get around to that, or will you try to evade it some more?

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:37 am

In post 1798, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1791, T S O wrote:Why did you pretend I naked voted NS when I didn't?

I didn't - I commented on that as well;

In post 1784, Thor665 wrote:He extremely vaguely explained it thereafter but, basically, was just calling the playstyle generically bad without really describing the scum plan behind it.

Actually, yes. Yes you did.

In post 1743, Thor665 wrote:
The NS case is...who knows?

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:43 am

In post 1741, Thor665 wrote:
I dislike the GG wagon.
I dislike the NS wagon.
The Flubber wagon has more town reads on it, but also has the MS vote, which I am not fond of.
The MS wagon is more filled with random derp and people not explaining their thoughts.

Again, this is shit.

"I don't like this one, mm, not this one either, mmm, this other one's got MS so doesn't work, ehhh don't like the votes on MS, time to push a TSO wagon."

In post 1743, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1611, T S O wrote:
vote: ns

Ooooh, and here's the NS case.

Apparently the MS case is - lurking.

The NS case is...who knows?

Meh and double meh.

Oooh, and here's the TSO case!

Apparently the TSO case is - not explaining votes or something - the author of the case has admitted he hasn't explained it yet expects to be sheeped.

Much wow!

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:44 am

I will not ask you again:

Stop dancing around my question with words and answer: what specifically am I scum for?

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:45 am

In post 1806, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1803, T S O wrote:You still haven't explained what specific vote makes me scum - do you think you'll get around to that, or will you try to evade it some more?

I never claimed any vote made you scum.

So, my votes aren't scummy. Okay.

It's almost like you've taken up pages and pages about my votes, so you would think they're scummy... but no!

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:56 am

In post 1784, Thor665 wrote:My read is basically this - when I replace in and ask for his case he gets snooty and claims he already made it.
He didn't.
He extremely vaguely explained it thereafter but, basically, was just calling the playstyle generically bad without really describing the scum plan behind it.

That makes TSO a mix of a liar/useless player.
That makes him a pretty excellent vote to my mind.

I must be missing something here.

My justification for my vote was: I am not townreading him, he is being useless by lurking, and scum often lurk.

That's not me calling his playstyle generically bad.
But even if it -was- me doing so:

Why am I scum for this? It seems like it would be a flaw in my scumhunting.

Let me quote you:

"That makes TSO a mix of a liar/useless player."

You're pre-emptively justifying your vote by calling me a bad player, or in other words, my playstyle bad.
At worst, if we assume that you are right about my vote justification, blah blah blah, here's the bottom line:

You've called my playstyle generically bad without really describing the scumplan behind it. Which is what I am, apparently, scum for.

You're a dirty hypocrite and you're scum.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:56 am

In post 1814, pirate mollie wrote:VOTE: tso

why

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:57 am

Like, I get you've called me scum, but you haven't -ever- justified that, and your play this game has been awful, so I want to hear.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:59 am

Like, you haven't addressed a single actual point of my vote reasoning.

MS is lurking. Scum often lurk. MS is being useless. He is of no help to us. I am not townreading MS.

Those are not "extremely vague justifications".

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:49 pm

In post 1784, Thor665 wrote:I
I am thinking I've expressed my thoughts already on a number of topics and choose not to repeat things generically for no reason.

I am thinking you haven't. You offered dislike of leading wagons for reasons such as "oh, don't like this" and you doled out townreads randomly without explanation. Your case on me is shit. Your predecessor was also scummy.

Very scumgame. How d2 lynch.

T S O · Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:03 pm

could hammer, don't have a problem doing so either, but want a claim.

T S O · Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:25 am

In post 1869, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1844, T S O wrote:
In post 1784, Thor665 wrote:I
I am thinking I've expressed my thoughts already on a number of topics and choose not to repeat things generically for no reason.

I am thinking you haven't. You offered dislike of leading wagons for reasons such as "oh, don't like this" and you doled out townreads randomly without explanation. Your case on me is shit. Your predecessor was also scummy.

Very scumgame. How d2 lynch.

In post 1845, T S O wrote:could hammer, don't have a problem doing so either, but want a claim.

the incongruency of these 2 statements stand out to me.

Not really, at all, actually - but whatever you think.

You still didn't explain why I'm scum - but knowing your play so far, it'll take ages and it'll be an awful read that no-one agrees with.

T S O · Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:12 pm

very disappoint

T S O · Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:24 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=59620

T S O · Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:49 pm

isn't it ironic they called this game redemption