Mini 1624: Joss Whedon Mafia: The Musical (Game Over)

[Metal Sonic]

hi AP

why not?

[Metal Sonic]

ok eyestott was a good player

but still

[Metal Sonic]

you guys no lynched day 1?????

wtf guys.

[Metal Sonic]

Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest < (SK + Nacho + Purple)
Antihero
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Egg
Serrapaladin - Dawn Summers, Innocent Child
Boonskiies
Metal Sonic
Murder of Crows (AP + FFery)


ok this playerlist is nice

[Metal Sonic]

F16 is obvtown

Egg is quite scummy, but he claimed roleblocker from what i can hear. well, usually that's a scum PR so HMM.


VOTE: crows for commenting on my replace in

[Metal Sonic]

I will record myself eating a gallon of Oreo Icrecream on Stream if F16 flips town.

how hard is it to eat ice cream??

[Metal Sonic]

boonskies is town. and he claimed a town role so ok

[Metal Sonic]

Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest < (SK + Nacho + Purple)
Antihero
F-16_Fighting_Falcon - town
Egg - prob scum
Serrapaladin - Dawn Summers, Innocent Child
Boonskiies - town
Metal Sonic - town
Murder of Crows (AP + FFery)



antihero, talk to me. i need to sort you, plus you're cool

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: DL extension

Anti is 100% right about boon, though I'm not excluding the option that he's game-throwingly bad town, and we currently need his role for the setup to work.

ok

ppl need to realize something




BOON IS NOT STUPID. HE'S NOT A VI. HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE IT BENEFITS

HIM

.

don't fall for it.

you know... forget the claim entirely (even though he's changed his story on his abilities.) if you want to say it's a wash, then fine. i'll grant that.

THE WAY HE'S CLAIMED TO USE HIS ACTIONS MAKE ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE

town don't make their townreads lightning rods
town don't give vig shots to null reads

i erase my boonskies read.
'though he does look town hm

[Metal Sonic]

I didn't have a surge of confidence just to get shotdown by more horseshit in this thread.

what did you mean by this?



also, yes, i am aware that f16 subverts level 1 scumhunting

i will proceed to level 2


i need to level 1 sort eveeryone first

[Metal Sonic]

actually, shit

every1 in this playerlist can subvert level 1 scumhunting, i don't know about boon and egg

i'll be back later after my drink.


crows, help me help you, by linking your case against him, and catch me up on the general gamestate. be as detailed as possible, i'll get to ya

[Metal Sonic]

If you want to give me an opinion on who is scum inside {antihero/Jesus} that'd be cool too.

okay, give me your read on antihero, and why.

jesus too, and reasons,

[Metal Sonic]

I said twice now I'll wait to see how the Eye situation plays out, see what happens and comment then. I don't get why you are jumping the gun.

Why didn't you care about my Eye read when I talked about it before?

The most I got from you was that you thought he was very null-town 3037, but you were wayyyy more interested in discussing Nacho when I brought up Eye.

When I called Eye town / removed him from my lynch-pool back in post 3184 you never commented on my eyestott read and just asked me why I was abandoning my reach out to you :S.

Your interactions with me feel dodgy. I poured a ton of emotion and self-meta into a wall and all you did in response was basically say "Ya you're right, you don't look like you did in Tales" and then instead of developing that or making any conclusions, you switch gears and start rambling about Jesus *again* 3384. That feels an awful lot like what I would do as scum: when presented with something deeply reflective and emotional that I don't ~really~ know how to address in a way that is good and looks genuine, just acknowledge it and then spend time talking about things that DO matter to me or that I can talk about in a genuine manner.

I keep trying to reachout to you and I'm left in an awkward situation where you kind of appease my desire for interaction, but don't really build on anything I've said or respond in a way that makes me think you are reading what I have to say with an open mind at all.

Hi MS.

im not interested in stuff like this, btw , AP. because the context is only applicable to F16 and you.

i want to know what looks scummy, what has been suspicious, and the nuances that you pick up that are directly indicative of f16 scum, that a 3rd party can understand.

[Metal Sonic]

ffery here. Let me know when you're caught up and want to talk, MS.

give me your opinion on AP's opinion

[Metal Sonic]

ffery here. Let me know when you're caught up and want to talk, MS.

give me your opinion on AP's opinion

i want a more elaborate answer please, your response was insufficient


this is a tier 3 game so i need to analyze a lot more than normal.

[Metal Sonic]

oh hey metal sonic's here

NOW IT'S A PARTY

<3


anti, help me sort you, give me your thoughts

[Metal Sonic]

regarding:

1. current gamestate

2. the playerslots: Crows, F16, Nachohydra

3. your picks for the 2 scum.

[Metal Sonic]

if you have time, make it a mini-essay, much appreciated

[Metal Sonic]

I mostly share it, though I am townreading the bodhi saatva. The Medea lynch still bugs me though.

I feel like things are starting to make a little sense and I don't want to see an Anti wagon today.

specifically,


what is your view on f16?


i'm halfway through his iso, will do the rest tomorrow.

[Metal Sonic]

ffery here. Let me know when you're caught up and want to talk, MS.

give me your opinion on AP's opinion

i want a more elaborate answer please, your response was insufficient


this is a tier 3 game so i need to analyze a lot more than normal.

You're a big boy and you read fast. My trajectory on all the players in this game is in my ISO.

I may feel like a big effortful post later today, if you're too lazy to do the legwork yourself.

p-edit the bulk of my posts are back and forth with f-16. I think I've voted him twice throughout the course of the game. His inability to form a read on both my slot and Nacho's slot after FOUR GAME DAYS is the source of a lot of my concern.

[Metal Sonic]

Sorry it posted without my text


You definitely sign your posts in your ISO. I haven't read it in detail yet, because I was busy with f16 as AP suggested, but your back and forth I skimmed... I did mention earlier "something that a 3rd party will understand"... and your back and forth requires far too much context to be useful without more heavy reading

[Metal Sonic]

1. gamestate: suck, i'm a basket case as per usual
2/3. scum are nachohydra/boon. boon is such a goddamn liar and no one wants to call him on it or recognize that its happening and want to say LOL VI and he's not at all. he has them fooled he doesn't have me fooled though.

i guess f16 slot COULD be scum, but if he is, i'll do a stream video of me shoving a gallon of oreo ice cream up my ass because that will suck. i don't see anything on f16's end, but aa9 getting upset and replacing out with what i said but not what greyice said kind of ~eeeeehhhhhhhh~

Your thoughts on the 1v1 with apffery and f16?


I'll tell you my thoughts on boon skies . He looked town-ish to me in his first few posts even before he claimed inventor. I heard something about lightning rods but I skimmed that. Then I want to confirm that I indeed got a 1 shot neighborizer from him. Do you think an inventor is a scum role? Cause maybe I am setup spec ing here but his role is nothing like the scum inventors you had in organic chem. never seem a scum inventor before for me.

[Metal Sonic]

1. gamestate: suck, i'm a basket case as per usual
2/3. scum are nachohydra/boon. boon is such a goddamn liar and no one wants to call him on it or recognize that its happening and want to say LOL VI and he's not at all. he has them fooled he doesn't have me fooled though.

i guess f16 slot COULD be scum, but if he is, i'll do a stream video of me shoving a gallon of oreo ice cream up my ass because that will suck. i don't see anything on f16's end, but aa9 getting upset and replacing out with what i said but not what greyice said kind of ~eeeeehhhhhhhh~

You didn't mention why nacho hydra is scum at all.

[Metal Sonic]

ffery here. Let me know when you're caught up and want to talk, MS.

give me your opinion on AP's opinion

i want a more elaborate answer please, your response was insufficient


this is a tier 3 game so i need to analyze a lot more than normal.

You're a big boy and you read fast. My trajectory on all the players in this game is in my ISO.

I may feel like a big effortful post later today, if you're too lazy to do the legwork yourself.

p-edit the bulk of my posts are back and forth with f-16. I think I've voted him twice throughout the course of the game. His inability to form a read on both my slot and Nacho's slot after FOUR GAME DAYS is the source of a lot of my concern.

I asked for your opinion on AP's opinion. Why did you dodge sideways in answering my question?

You said you share it. But I am asking you to comment on AP's reads, rather than "who are your reads".


So I am not sure why you are making a dig about my reading when you didn't really answer the question



Yes, I haven't read the bulk of your stuff in detail. Yes, I can differentiate you and AP. No, it's a pain.

[Metal Sonic]

Someday I'm going to have to ask about this level stuff.

It's pretty easy


Do you notice I play very differently in various games

I give selective attention

[Metal Sonic]

Yes I am a elitist judgemental scumbag that practices favoritism

[Metal Sonic]

The presence of an IC makes things easier, takes one person out of the equation.


Can somebody tell me why a conftown hasn't been night killed? I see that two JOATs were sniped, nasty.

[Metal Sonic]

Our BP got strongmanned apparently


So either the IC or boon skies is next.

Anti, boon skies is one of the most powerful PRs currently outed. Why don't you let the scum deal with him instead? If he isn't dying, he's scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Of course I'm town

Question is: are you town?

[Metal Sonic]

ffery here. Let me know when you're caught up and want to talk, MS.

give me your opinion on AP's opinion

i want a more elaborate answer please, your response was insufficient


this is a tier 3 game so i need to analyze a lot more than normal.

You're a big boy and you read fast. My trajectory on all the players in this game is in my ISO.

I may feel like a big effortful post later today, if you're too lazy to do the legwork yourself.

p-edit the bulk of my posts are back and forth with f-16. I think I've voted him twice throughout the course of the game. His inability to form a read on both my slot and Nacho's slot after FOUR GAME DAYS is the source of a lot of my concern.

I asked for your opinion on AP's opinion. Why did you dodge sideways in answering my question?

You said you share it. But I am asking you to comment on AP's reads, rather than "who are your reads".


So I am not sure why you are making a dig about my reading when you didn't really answer the question



Yes, I haven't read the bulk of your stuff in detail. Yes, I can differentiate you and AP. No, it's a pain.

And I gave you my opinion. I said I'm in agreement with him for the most part except for his Nachohydra read - which is mostly based on Mara's posts, which is probably why I don't really agree.

You apparently want something else - you want my f-16 read. Which I also gave you the thumbnail on - I just don't believe for a minute that with all the interaction with both slots that he wouldn't have a read nailed down by now.

If you want more detail and you don't want to dig for it, then it will have to wait on my having time and motivation to write up something just for your consumption. I don't believe anyone else in the game will get much out of it.

Yeah. Tell me, do you agree with all his reads (xcept nacho hydra) 100% entirely? And their trajectories and reasonings? Because that's the impression you give.

Okay, I have your f16 read. I'll review your ISO for the details, but I'm going to have to clarify if I don't see what I want to see.

Are the reads of AP that you agree with; AP's independent reads, or a sync and discussed- agreed upon reads?

[Metal Sonic]

Ap you are one sneaky bastard

[Metal Sonic]

Yeah. Tell me, do you agree with all his reads (xcept nacho hydra) 100% entirely? And their trajectories and reasonings? Because that's the impression you give.

We townhunt and scumhunt differently, and this is our first hydra-game, so our reads pretty much necessarily have different basis for the most part.

Your slot gave me hives for much of the game, but it's the kind of hives I get from town players whose approach/style I find fault with. Initially, he came off like he only took in game data that directly pertained to how people were reading him and responded to only that, plus a whole lot of flavor-spec. Then he focused almost exclusively on boonskiies in what I thought was a somewhat superficial way - he had the idea that town players are more careful about consistency than scum players are.

The whole trajectory of his replace-out screams town. F-16's hedging on that, and then his towning you when you're pushing the player he's hedged about all game is pretty damning in my eyes, though.

I agree with his reasoning for scum-falcon, but it's not the way my read formed.

Boonskiies is probably my biggest question mark. I'm leaning town there, but it's a weak town read mostly because of my other reads and their strengths. If I'm wrong about Nacho, then I feel like Boonskiies is almost certainly town. If I'm right and the bodhi saatva is town, then boonskiies in my PoE pool.

This is probably the root of my difficulty this game. I think Nacho is town but I am keeping a very low flame of suspicion in a back room of my brain because the game in some ways just doesn't make sense right now. If both Nacho and F-16 are town (and I think only one of them can be) then I think boonskiies is probably where I'm wrong.

I think I've been more comfortable with the possibility of town-Anti than he is. The main thing that has troubled me was Nacho's push there and wondering if Nacho's read is better than mine. I saw some cracks in the last 48 hours, so I'm kinda hopeful Nacho and I may synch on that read.

This is much better.

I'll reread you and f16 ISO tomorrow




Hi nacho

[Metal Sonic]

i think that nachoslot is the scum in the equation and letting town eat itself alive with fferyslot vs f16 1v1

[Metal Sonic]

the scum PR that flipped is a mafia encryptor. good to know

[Metal Sonic]

Egg is one of my strongest candidates for scum. His interactions with flipped scum Mikiru is literally = HELLO I AM PROTECTING THE ENCRYPTOR



I read fferyslot's ISO to see her thoughts on Egg, apparently the only reason why they townread Egg is because of his claim. Roleblocker. Sounds a bit overpowered in a game with 3 scum, i think? Knock one scum and we have a semi-cop. What town utility does a role blocker have? Can't block the encryptor, probably not the strongman, so its only utility is a killstop, with a backfire if it hits a town PR. So negative town utility unless caught scum.


I haven't read the other ISOs yet, and I need to read Nachoslot in-depth. Mara is behaving a bit fishy on my initial skim.



uh, so anyway bottomline is Egg is really scummy, ignoring his claim

[Metal Sonic]

Players we disagree about:

Egg

okay, i need the explanation of this. The last page of your ISO gave me 73 results for Egg and all were them for "Egg town because claim"

[Metal Sonic]

Okay, let's lynch f16 today. When he flips town, we then lynch egg and murder.

The conftown has spoken

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: f16

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: fake replacer vrishna

[Metal Sonic]

I hate to diss you guys or sound like I'm lazy but I think murder and f16 are both town

[Metal Sonic]

I mean

There is always a distinct possibility that both of them ARE the scum and have been planning scum theatre since day 1, especially with day talk,

But the conviction that both have makes it difficult to differentiate if one or the other is the scum or town

And I honestly think that it's either both scum or none at all

[Metal Sonic]

I am shit at this game especially when I'm regarded as the second conftown after serrapaladin

And he isn't being exactly a stellar excellent role model

And me being the 3rd party in the discussion makes me appreciate his point of view and I find myself agreeing with him and his stances

Or lack thereof

[Metal Sonic]

Specifically the -> mislynch f16 then kill egg and nacho

I think did I get that right

[Metal Sonic]

I'm pretty busy during the week due to real life commitments so I find it difficult to find the time to do a full dived analysis (and I'm lazy), for this game, which it requires to have the highest 100% confidence in finding scum

I do know that the problem is a multiple choice of a few players, given that I am town and there is another conftown,

But I cannot be sure of anything right now in this game

I mean I have antihero as strong town right now but anything can happen

[Metal Sonic]

Right now the easiest players are egg and nacho hydra, but should I think deeper?

[Metal Sonic]

I could see both being town, actually.

I don't think these wall wars have ever given me a good read on people, and pushing this game north of 150 pages isn't really improving my motivation. That being said, if they're both scum, the volume of posts today seems a bit overkill, to say the least. If one of them is scum with Egg or boon, I could also see either one of them going this hard.

What do you think of mara's cancelled replacement request?

If both are scum, their strategy of scum theatre effectively *almost* guarantees them a win bar unusual circumstances. Because the other will ride the town cred to victory. They are good players, it is unlikely for them to fuck it up.


In other news, I think mara's cancelled request to replace out is scummy as all heck. SK's "fuck off" just literally makes me want to lynch the slot, yet I get cold feet or apprehensive, get what I mean?

[Metal Sonic]

And could you think of a good reason for eyestott's replace?

I didn't ISO my predecessor, because there is enough stuff to sift through without rereading a slot that I know is town.


According to what I've heard, he got replaced voluntarily for receiving outside info. That's what I have as headcanon. Probably someone talked about this game outside of this game, so eyestott requested replacement. Probably a dead player. That's my guess.

[Metal Sonic]

Wall wars confuse me. Unless I spend a lot of time to analyse the text or what is going on, I will not be able to discern much meaningful information, unless one of the players slips or says something strikingly scummy.


So far, I haven't seen anything from either of the two that says "I AM SCUM", which I can easily spot in other easier games. Maybe I'm just lazy. Or maybe they're just good. Or Occam's razor, they're both town. But that's what scum want us to think, so what the heck.

[Metal Sonic]

I don't know. I've always read fake replace outs as scummy. (Anecdote) once, I caught scum by one of my "gambits", where I was a real dayvig and dual shot the scum and a town. The scum threatened to replace out, but after she didn't die, I immediately hard pushed a lynch on her (after much effort, town can be so darn stupid sometimes) and she flipped scum role cop



It depends on the context, but I generally have a bad impression to fake replace outs

[Metal Sonic]

Hmm, I get what you're saying about skrew's reaction being weird, but I refuse to believe they'd use that as a deliberate tactic, and I'm also not convinced scum!mara would replace out when moc and f16 are fighting it out. I guess if I was in a hydra and my other head had requested replacement without asking me, I'd likely react like that as either alignment.

I suspect whoever is coasting in the f16/murder fiasco is highly likely to be scum. Who appears to be riding on the waves, and not bothering to scumhunt? Boon and nacho slot.

Ffs, nacho hydra has 3 players, and since I replaced in they haven't posted shit.

[Metal Sonic]

I mean at least Egg has posted something that attempts to be remotely townie

I mean

A long post that is meant to look town

AT LEAST SOMETHING!!

[Metal Sonic]

I'm hesitant about boon because my slot can confirm the existence of his power. Though I wouldn't rule out a scum inventor as impossible, it doesn't seem logical or common setup-wise. In contrast, I can definitely see if Egg was a scum roleblocker instead.

[Metal Sonic]

Ffery was scum in xenoblade and I don't remember the details of it, but she and her hydra partner spammed 500 posts in day 1 alone. I don't know how mollie caught her, but she did, and ffery got eliminated early .

[Metal Sonic]

I'm hesitant about boon because my slot can confirm the existence of his power. Though I wouldn't rule out a scum inventor as impossible, it doesn't seem logical or common setup-wise. In contrast, I can definitely see if Egg was a scum roleblocker instead.

What have you been told about your 1-shot ability so far?

To my knowledge it's positive utility.

[Metal Sonic]

However, it's late in the game, so I don't know how much use it can have in the remaining time.

I can neighborize someone tonight, and I will get to communicate with them beginning the next day, with daytalk. One Shot Neighborizer. I haven't decided who to neighborize. Probably the conftown, of course.

[Metal Sonic]

i mean you

[Metal Sonic]

It's probably not useful to neighbourise me, actually.

I'll think about it.


So yeah, that's a fact. I don't know if scum-boonskies-inventor would be giving out helpful-town stuff like that.

So far, all the inventors that I have seen which give random/flavor inventions and don't know what it can do, have been town.

[Metal Sonic]

Only two games though, so that's a tiny sample size.

[Metal Sonic]

Cool, just checking. eye had already claimed that, I think.

i didn't bother to ISO you, by the way. you're conftown too.

Right now I think that nachohydra is most likely to be scum.

[Metal Sonic]

I dunno.... there's an ongoing problem to solve. choosing a good neighbor is more easy/straightforward, lol

[Metal Sonic]

Egg's claim that he is able to prove his role is useless. He can be a scum roleblocker and do the same. What is the meaning?

[Metal Sonic]

Everyone has already claimed, right? Egg, if he is town, should block one of the scummier "VT"s. Of course, if we find out that he has stopped a kill, we lynch his guilty and get a conftown on Egg. Win-win.


If Egg isn't town, the argument is moot anyway.

[Metal Sonic]

A missing kill would be WIFOM central

If the person we lynch... is not scum, we know that Egg's result is false.

It is not WIFOM central, the scum merely no-kill and we just mislynch someone. But since we no-lynched on Day 1, the benefits gained by scum with this method is minimal.

[Metal Sonic]

If the person we lynch... is not scum, we know that Egg's result is false.

But scum could hold their kill even if Egg is town.

Holding their kill brings them no benefit for the first night. Because we no-lynched day 1, the numbers will make it so that we'll have mylo anyway

[Metal Sonic]

I think I would follow metal sonic tomorrow. Surprises me to say that.

Sorry.. Whaaaa--?

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: bodhi satva

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: bodhi satva

Wrong vote. Murder is the right one.

Jesus christ people. Looking for ANY excuse to not vote Murder when they ATE the shit out of this game so hard, it is worse than AP in tales. Fuck this game and fuck this site. I'm done.

we can lynch murder maybe later

[Metal Sonic]

is there any reason why lynching murder today is so urgent?

they dont even have many votes on them

[Metal Sonic]

@ Metal Sonic, you will never win this game if you take the attitude of "ffery should never be lynched." You've previously correctly read me as obvtown upon replacing in and weren't sure about Murder but when the time came, you voted me and said that you'd need to mislynch me before making a decision on what to do with Murder. Your entire stance around Murder seems to be based on the fact that you like Ffery. That's understandable. But I try not to make it a habit of lynching outside of people I like and focus on lynching scum. And I can't for the life of me see how Ffery is town here. You were quick to vote me because of Serra's proposed plan but won't vote Murder when he did shows you are basing your reads around how much you like Ffery and that's seriously freaking annoying to do. However likeable she is, she is not TOWN. Please vote Murder with me. I'm positive they are scum.

because that was a fantastic misrepresentation of the present situation

[Metal Sonic]

in other news, f16's conviction makes me strongly believe that he is town

[Metal Sonic]

Your entire stance around Murder seems to be based on the fact that you like Ffery.

at least you used the fudge phrase "seems to be"

that's good literary precision

[Metal Sonic]

Favorite

Antihero
Ffery
Nacho
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Mara
Serrapaladin - Dawn Summers, Innocent Child
SleepyKrew
AngryPidgeon
Egg
Boonskiies

No Love

just because

[Metal Sonic]

I'm serious though - you said I was town upon replacing in, "obvtown" even, but didn't hesitate to vote me based on a stupid plan of mislynching me to check someone else's alignment.

Whereas you never read Murder as incredibly strong town but aren't willing to lynch them.

Anyways, lynch Murder with me today. Crack open the champagne tomorrow.

why do you get uppity about a single vote?

[Metal Sonic]

i wasn't in tales of you. telling us about meta from that game won't have as much effect as you are making it out to be






p-edit: Murder is playing an incredibly great game (as always), and people are afraid of being wrong on murder. We can't differentiate with certainty if murder is scum or town, and as much as your conviction and charisma attempts to persuade us that murder is scum, we as individual members of the town only have your words as one point of consideration

[Metal Sonic]

basically if murder is scum she's pulling the wool over our eyes(except yours) pretty well

which she is meant to do

which results in this scenario

[Metal Sonic]

And you have been in Xeno-whatever where she did exactly that.

I have a 100% accuracy in reading AngryPidgeon.

Xenoblade was a game that was more than a year ago. maybe half more. Ffery + her partner spammed Day 1 and the hydraslot produced 500 posts. Mollie caught her and for some reason was able to successfully lynch ffer.

I wasn't part of the involved, only the sheep. I cannot use that game's meta or expertise in this one

[Metal Sonic]

Actually, why the hell aren't more people voting Egg when everyone seems to agree that he's scum?

VOTE: Egg

Nacho, if you are actually somehow town, ditch that stupid Antihero push and vote Egg since he seems to be the strongest scumread for Mara and second for you.

Antihero, we can consider Nacho tomorrow. Lynch Egg with me today.

Metal Sonic. You are convinced Egg is scum, let's lynch him.

Boonskies, same here. Except I don't know your read on Egg.

It feels like everyone (besides Murder) is convinced that Egg is scum of some sort and no one actually focuses on him or wagons him. Let's do this now.

VOTE: Nachohydra

UNVOTE:

Need to rethink a bit.

Can you explain your fickle votes here?

[Metal Sonic]

@serra

f16 is town, we can modify your plan to lynch murder instead of f16 first


VOTE: murder

[Metal Sonic]

How in the hell are Murder playing a great game btw?

And they've been suspicious from D1 onwards and no one is doing jack to push their lynch through and they survived this long.

You realize if we mislynch today, we'll be at MYLO tomorrow. Hopefully you can understand my urgency here.

answer your own question

[Metal Sonic]

okay.

so, what's your wager? you know

[Metal Sonic]

i'm just interested on what happens in the nonzero event that murder flips town

[Metal Sonic]

Egg nacho. You're a fudge factor

[Metal Sonic]

I'll sheep whoever you want next game we play together if they're town.

Pedit: Re: Wager.

sounds good.

[Metal Sonic]

I'll sheep whoever you want next game we play together if they're town.

Pedit: Re: Wager.

You'll owe me as well.

only holds if both of you are town

[Metal Sonic]

sounds like a plan



ps: fuck if antihero is the scum lol

[Metal Sonic]

Me too

[Metal Sonic]

*lynch murder for f16

[Metal Sonic]

i hope i am right too


dont you hope f16 is wrong

or do you know he's right? hoho!

[Metal Sonic]

I forgot to use my neighborize and bulba didn't let me use it when I PMEE him just now

Fak

[Metal Sonic]

If he's scum and I derailed his lynch and intentionally fanned the flames of my own, THEN I'll take full responsibility for this fiasco.

Ominous

[Metal Sonic]

shame

[Metal Sonic]

My gut is telling me MS is scum.

i am as conftown as you are and you should not get distracted by your rumbling tummy please

[Metal Sonic]

with egg dead, it eliminates a potential mislynch candidate.


Jesusbuddhavrishnathebest (1)
Antihero (0):
F-16_Fighting_Falcon (0):
Serrapaladin (0):
Boonskiies (0):
Metal Sonic (0):

taking away me and serra, its 4 left

2 scum in 4

fricking 1 in 2 chance

if f16 is scum we are in a mess and fery will cry

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: buddha

logical choice if f16 is assumed to be not scum

otherwise cry

[Metal Sonic]

UNVOTE:

if buddha isnt scum we lost


but if buddha isnt scum that means that boon+anti is


which is

um

hmm


twist my mouth

[Metal Sonic]

or it could be f16 pulling an etl-level performance


ffs

[Metal Sonic]

My gut is telling me MS is scum.

i am as conftown as you are and you should not get distracted by your rumbling tummy please

No you're not?

Don't get paranoid

[Metal Sonic]

F16/MS, final answer

Make a wager, cause I always stand to gain.



Seriously I'm as good as town as you are. You're getting insane, which is understandable, but you need to look at me like a conftown.

[Metal Sonic]

I'm getting paranoid of antihero, however. He and nacho could be cross bussing

[Metal Sonic]

F16/MS, final answer

Make a wager, cause I always stand to gain.



Seriously I'm as good as town as you are. You're getting insane, which is understandable, but you need to look at me like a conftown.

Why do you think you're conftown?

Why do

you

think you're conf town?


Because I am.

[Metal Sonic]

Meh, I'm obvious town by this point anyways.

Oh, hmm. It's obvious now. It's F-16 and Jesu.

VOTE: F-16

This is scummy as all hell

[Metal Sonic]

Meh, I'm obvious town by this point anyways.

This is townie as all hell

[Metal Sonic]

F16/MS, final answer

Make a wager, cause I always stand to gain.



Seriously I'm as good as town as you are. You're getting insane, which is understandable, but you need to look at me like a conftown.

Why do you think you're conftown?

I'm not getting angry only because I have the same feeling with antihero

[Metal Sonic]

I am about to vote nacho

I think it is the logical move


Unless f16 is scum then screw everything

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho *slot

Not nacho

I think the posts as a whole as scummy as poop and I'm not even recognizing Nacho posts

[Metal Sonic]

Also I just updated to IOS8 and the autocorrect is interesting

[Metal Sonic]

If anybody other than F16 is lynched tomorrow, I will have words. This was a 1v1 and he's already sliding back out of it. Serra, it has been a real dishonor being mislynched by your lazy-ass this game. Be better. Vote f16 tomorrow.

Anybody saying we are town v town blindly can blow me.

~Clearly not ffery.

This was fferyslot last words. Not a nacho townread. What misrep

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho *slot

Not nacho

I think the posts as a whole as scummy as poop and I'm not even recognizing Nacho posts

I have been posting a majority of the game.
And it should surprise me but doesn't surprise me at all that you're about to vote me even though ffery's last words were essentially "don't lynch the nacho slot".

No their last words was a boon skies scumread

[Metal Sonic]

Actually Metal Sonic, Ffery's last words are here. I'm not sure if you legit missed it:

I'm tired and I'm sad and I feel bad that AP and I weren't all that successful at synching and picking a direction most of this game.

And this post won't be an exception.

I've been extremely abrasive to f-16 in twilight. He hasn't had to stay here and take it because once the thread is closed I'm gone and my opinions no longer matter. There's no way he'll ever change AP's read, so that's another reason for scum-f-16 to just wash his hands.

That's not what happened.

leaving that here, to consider along with AP's opinion.

Anyway, fwiw I think I've finally landed on an f-16 read. I hope I'm right.

I want to see boonskiies lynched.

I don't see a mentio of nachoslot whatsoever

[Metal Sonic]

I stood aside and backed off to think and wonder if I was wrong about medea yesterday and they got lynched while I navel gazed.

I may not be able to stop the bodhi saatva's wagon but I oppose it and I'm saying right here and now that I expect they'll flip town.

bodhi saatva. MS. Anti. I will not vote there today.

Egg, I have niggles about. AP feels they're town. Mostly I do too.

I'd fucking hate losing to scum-boons. His play has been atrocious.

If you're town, and my top 3 are town, then it's egg and boon? Does that make any sort of sense?

Would like to hear from Nacho and Skrew.

this is ffery townreading me

This is before she townread f16

The read on you is likely outdated

[Metal Sonic]

Ffs

VOTE: antihero

[Metal Sonic]

If you're town in sorry but im getting an aneurysm and need a lobotomy

[Metal Sonic]

Give one to Serra too

The conftowns who have to make decisions... Are the ones who are getting the most pressure incidentally

[Metal Sonic]

There are only 2


Are you conftown? Hmm.

[Metal Sonic]

I like that response. I'm not voting boon.

The mind link is a real neighborize. Bulbazak told me about it upon I replacing in

[Metal Sonic]

My guess is anti/nachoslot


So you know what

VOTE: nacho

[Metal Sonic]

Once again this is on the basis that f16 is town, a gamble that I am taking

[Metal Sonic]

well, at least i know nacho's posting.



all the live players point to your slot being scum. it's the hard part to find the busser among the town.

[Metal Sonic]

ffery was not giving your slot a strong townread. and after all that wrestling with f16, she finally decides to change her mind and call him town.


lets relook at her last reads again

[Metal Sonic]

Metal Sonic cut this shit out

PERIOD

weren't you calling nacho scum wth

[Metal Sonic]

i'm not moving off of nacho. if he's town i'll eat my shit heap of shame after the game, but he's obviously not and neither is mara.

if you want to lynch anyone else, you'll have to come up w/ the 4 votes on your own

[Metal Sonic]

Egg, I have niggles about. AP feels they're town. Mostly I do too.

I want to see boonskiies lynched.

Anyway, fwiw I think I've finally landed on an f-16 read. I hope I'm right.

[Metal Sonic]

Once again this is on the basis that f16 is town, a gamble that I am taking

metal, you suck at endgame

i've never been to endgame. i either get nightkilled for being too town or get lynched d1

[Metal Sonic]

i swear if im right and i waver because there are like 2 scum vs 4 giving every1 shit I also have a responsibility to kick myself

[Metal Sonic]

OH IS THAT FUCKING RIGHT, METAL?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56684

HERE, LET ME JOG YOUR MEMORY

well i got gangbanged in a neighborhood with 2 scumslots and 3 players


any player would get shitted on in that position

[Metal Sonic]

HOLY SHIT

no, i was obviously town and you still lynched me

you fucked up

whoops wrong game

i was remembering quickness game






god damn im losing my memory these days

[Metal Sonic]

Once again this is on the basis that f16 is town, a gamble that I am taking

if boon's scum, i'm blacklisting you

jsyk

was this to serra?

[Metal Sonic]

If he's scum and I derailed his lynch and intentionally fanned the flames of my own, THEN I'll take full responsibility for this fiasco.

if f 16 is scum and we dont lynch him can we blame it all on ffery??


that is not the right thing to do. all town take responsibility for if they win or lose

and

if f16 is scum he is giving us an etl level performance

because his attack on murder is very difficult to fake

[Metal Sonic]

I still think its F16 + Boon/

Jesus

. Mikuru makes me think its Jesus of those 2, but play makes me lean towards Boon.

what is this??

[Metal Sonic]

if f16 is scum he is giving us an etl level performance

uh, no he would be giving an f16 level of performance
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=58358

also, f16 as scum will never be anything like etl as scum because f16 and etl are nothing alike

yeah ok point taken

but i thought your scumreads was boon/nacho

why suddenly going to f16?

[Metal Sonic]

You and Nacho together are my paranoia scum team.

AP pointed out that the bodhi saatva kept making noises about voting you when he pressed them but never did.

I don't think you'd be this beside yourself about our lynch as scum, especially when we're not lifting a finger to avoid it.

this sounds like ffery to me

[Metal Sonic]

Thank god it's over.

Apologies to town for my play which led to this mislynch.

Yet, it's an incredible relief to be free from the last game that keeps me too much in the moment of November 19.

AP's reads are here. 4053.

It is with a great deal of fear of being wrong that I say I don't think f-16 is scum. My nacho read has degraded a little, but I think that one of the bodhi saatva/Anti have to be scum. IOW Nacho is probably either correct or scum. I don't know which. As for who is scum with {Anti|Bodhi Saatva} we think Boonskiies.

I know AP is going to disagree, but the longer Anti has sat tight on his Nacho vote as other shit happened today, and the fact that he hasn't voted me at L-1 with one and a half days on the clock feels like grandstanding for town cred.

this is my favorite post

anti/nacho is making my head spin

[Metal Sonic]

I have a 100% accuracy in reading AngryPidgeon.

Not any more.

MS, I think f-16 is town. I've been worried as hell that I could be wrong and that he'd be mislynched tomorrow if I am.

I've been worried that if I softened my stance, I'd make the same mistake I made in the BSG micro game when I backed off my buldermar scum read (who knew me better than any player at MS with the exception of Mollie at the time) on day 1.

Anyway. The prolonged anger and frustration at pushing for my lynch goes beyond what I think he could do as scum, in terms of intensity.

So, if he's not scum then my pool is (nacho, boonskiies, egg), and I doubt egg is scum. AP feels pretty sure about it.

Who makes sense as scum with nacho?

they were right about egg

[Metal Sonic]

If anybody other than F16 is lynched tomorrow, I will have words. This was a 1v1 and he's already sliding back out of it. Serra, it has been a real dishonor being mislynched by your lazy-ass this game. Be better. Vote f16 tomorrow.

Anybody saying we are town v town blindly can blow me.

~Clearly not ffery.

this is contradictory; probably a reads update

[Metal Sonic]

Thank god it's over.

Apologies to town for my play which led to this mislynch.

Yet, it's an incredible relief to be free from the last game that keeps me too much in the moment of November 19.

AP's reads are here. 4053.

It is with a great deal of fear of being wrong that I say I don't think f-16 is scum. My nacho read has degraded a little, but I think that one of the bodhi saatva/Anti have to be scum. IOW Nacho is probably either correct or scum. I don't know which. As for who is scum with {Anti|Bodhi Saatva} we think Boonskiies.

I know AP is going to disagree, but the longer Anti has sat tight on his Nacho vote as other shit happened today, and the fact that he hasn't voted me at L-1 with one and a half days on the clock feels like grandstanding for town cred.

this is my favorite post

anti/nacho is making my head spin

Is that why you're treating boonskies as confirmed town today?

no

boonskiies says he is conftown therefore he must be conftown

[Metal Sonic]

serra i need your affirmation re: boonskies


he isn't dying because he is a potential mislynch. we need to change that.

[Metal Sonic]

note to self: scum dont have daytalk

[Metal Sonic]

let us get this straight


from the time that i replaced in

boonskies gave inventions to myself

and serrapaladin.

from my perspective, two of the towniest -clearest-alignment players in the game

serra received SOMETHING. i don't care what. if I were scum inventor i'd be giving stuff to all my partners. and win if i didnt get trackered *ahem*

antihero says something about a lightning rod. sounds like a nice tasty vig effect to me. and i didnt see it personally i dont really want to judge that

[Metal Sonic]

i guess f16 slot COULD be scum, but if he is, i'll do a stream video of me shoving a gallon of oreo ice cream up my ass because that will suck. i don't see anything on f16's end, but aa9 getting upset and replacing out with what i said but not what greyice said kind of ~eeeeehhhhhhhh~

ahem

[Metal Sonic]

If boon is scum, go ahead and blame our loss on me.

double confirm this.


i want to switch to anti

[Metal Sonic]

double confirm this.

i mean, repeat that again.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: antihero

the more i think about this the more i think he's doing a good job but hiding in the side

[Metal Sonic]

oh believe me, I am off the list. i am the hard lynch, no scum will be attempting to lynch me on the table.

2 scum in the 3 below

{Nacho / Anti / F16}

[Metal Sonic]

this effectively PROVES <----- the statement that one of {nacho/anti } is scum, going by the assumption that boon is conftown (and so am i, obviously)




nacho or anti, hmm? or both?

[Metal Sonic]

It's not anti/nacho though,

if you're vouching for boon, then this is impossible.

nacho OR anti WILL contain 1 scum, assuming we have 2 scum left

[Metal Sonic]

If boon is scum, go ahead and blame our loss on me.

listen.

lets say that boon is town as you claim.

so you know that boon is town.


now, who is giving boon total shit so that he can be a potential mislynch, and so don't have to kill him at night?



last i recall, antihero was making a HUGE fuss

[Metal Sonic]

in order for you to think that I am scum, you must first think that I have been WK-ing boon ever since I replaced in.

I am pretty sure that scum-me has better things to do e.g. taking huge shits on murder+f16



so relieve paranoia. {nacho/anti/f16}

[Metal Sonic]

last i recall, antihero was making a HUGE fuss

also kinda funny because anti feels TOTALLY OKAY with lynching either f16 and nacho as welll.


i dunno, as town we would have a strong stand for one or the other.

[Metal Sonic]

i mean i like anti and all and he's fun to play with

but scum is scum

we're sending you to the gallows

[Metal Sonic]

Anti might be scum.

I think it's F16 and you, but my reads obviously haven't been on point enough this game to properly rule out anti and nachohydra.

i'm using the neighborize on you tonight. i'll remember. lol.


scum is killing from

{me/you/boon}

boon should give me an item.

if scum kill you, I get an item.

If scum kill me, you're conftown with a live inventor

if scum kill boon, we are neighborized and hopefully daytalk lol





thats a good triangle

[Metal Sonic]

i'm logging off. maybe tomorrow I'll get a fresh perspective. but usually i don't change my answers.

this thread will still be open. lol

[Metal Sonic]

If boon is scum, go ahead and blame our loss on me.

listen.

lets say that boon is town as you claim.

so you know that boon is town.


now, who is giving boon total shit so that he can be a potential mislynch, and so don't have to kill him at night?



last i recall, antihero was making a HUGE fuss

YES BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE FIRST FUCKING WORD ABOUT WHY BOON IS TOWN

i'm done with you, metal. EVERY FUCKING GAME you town read scum for some stupid ass reason and i end up being your shit receptacle

fuck that

finished

I HEAR THE SOUND OF BULLSHIT

TRICKLING DOWN THE EDGE OF MY FACE

[Metal Sonic]

Just a strange tidbit, unless MS is scum, I haven't given an invention to a single scum. Fantastic. I'm betting I've given all mine to town, and if I had to choose, i'd give the next one to Anti. Probably would be town. F-16 and Jesu are scum.

That's not good logic. Giving your inventions to town make you town. But if you give another invention it does not make the receiver town.

[Metal Sonic]

Why are you reading antihero town even though he is taking huge shits on you? Are you not town?

[Metal Sonic]

why is no one telling me why ms is town?

The same situation as why people can't explain why the sky is blue (without looking at Google)


It is a fact, get over it, screw whys

[Metal Sonic]

Okay. Tell us, you scum?

[Metal Sonic]

Anti might be scum.

I think it's F16 and you, but my reads obviously haven't been on point enough this game to properly rule out anti and nachohydra.

i'm using the neighborize on you tonight. i'll remember. lol.


scum is killing from

{me/you/boon}

boon should give me an item.

if scum kill you, I get an item.

If scum kill me, you're conftown with a live inventor

if scum kill boon, we are neighborized and hopefully daytalk lol





thats a good triangle

[Metal Sonic]

Also if f16 is scum I am totally putting faith in ffery/AP

[Metal Sonic]

Lord AP and lady fferylit

[Metal Sonic]

The best possible scenario: no one died

Wow

[Metal Sonic]

Received boon's invention. Could be for town or scum. But yea it's very likely town

[Metal Sonic]

Yes. Serra is not online yet.

[Metal Sonic]

I thought f16 was town and I was wrong

All hail fferyap

[Metal Sonic]

I think anti is last scum and I hope I am not wrong

[Metal Sonic]

Also btw I probably should claim my item as well. Boon gave me a 1 shot VIG so we pretty much win the game. Lynch 1 and I'll vig the last one. Serra has cleared boon so there's nothing to worry about there

[Metal Sonic]

According the ffery, f16 was scum pushing Nacho. Ffery is townreading nacho; ergo antihero is the last scum.

Ffery is God and her words are gospel. Oh and AP too you get a mention


VOTE: antihero



One question I need to clarify about my item that is vital.

[Metal Sonic]

Bulb is not online now but yeah anti dies today else Nacho dies tonight/tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

I just said why.


Ffery said f16 scum pushed Nacho. Nacho isn't on same team with f16. Neither is boon as you confirmed. So it's anti

[Metal Sonic]

Ffery was right so I'm going to believe her read on f16 pushing Nacho as well

[Metal Sonic]

Bulba said that my VIG won't go through if I die tonight. But whatever that still checkmates Nacho

[Metal Sonic]

If I die, nacho dies. If I dont die, Nacho still dies. Bye anti

[Metal Sonic]

Gg

[Metal Sonic]

weak defense

You can learn from ETL from your redemption game

Amazing AtE

[Metal Sonic]

Let's make it a fun serrapaladin hammer

Anti vote Nacho for your life

[Metal Sonic]

You gave me the item why don't you know what it is -____-

[Metal Sonic]

IF anti isn't scum give item to Serra cause scum will shoot me tonight, or I vig Nacho and we win


Actually anti is probably scum but meh

[Metal Sonic]

ANTIHERO I AM SORRY

I HAVE WRONGED YOU

SMACK ME POSTGAME


also,

VOTE: nachohydra

[Metal Sonic]

i guess f16 slot COULD be scum, but if he is, i'll do a stream video of me shoving a gallon of oreo ice cream up my ass because that will suck. i don't see anything on f16's end, but aa9 getting upset and replacing out with what i said but not what greyice said kind of ~eeeeehhhhhhhh~

ehehehehhehehehe

[Metal Sonic]

i'm not moving off of nacho. if he's town i'll eat my shit heap of shame after the game, but he's obviously not and neither is mara.

if you want to lynch anyone else, you'll have to come up w/ the 4 votes on your own

good thing you dont have to eat the shit heap

[Metal Sonic]

i want to analyze and research postgame how the town players in the separate 1v1s were lynched first.


f16 <-> ffery

nachohydra <-> antihero

the town got lynched before the scum, in both cases. some sort of mafia thesis (that i dont plan on writing)

[Metal Sonic]

Yes!!! I'm the SK! I won!!!

[Metal Sonic]

Serra you didn't troll JESUSBUDDHAVRISHNA enough

[Metal Sonic]

I left a message in the hood pt

[Metal Sonic]

Impressive. Lots of comments to come

[Metal Sonic]

I read the dead thread. It was surprisingly interesting and dramatic.


Yeah sorry anti I suck

[Metal Sonic]

i guess f16 slot COULD be scum, but if he is, i'll do a stream video of me shoving a gallon of oreo ice cream up my ass because that will suck. i don't see anything on f16's end, but aa9 getting upset and replacing out with what i said but not what greyice said kind of ~eeeeehhhhhhhh~

ehehehehhehehehe

This is still funny

[Metal Sonic]

The scum qt is amazingly meaty even without daytalk

This is the best two-man scumteam I have ever seen. Too bad you were outnumbered, and without daytalk. Oh and PRs messed you up at the end.

[Metal Sonic]

i thank bulbazak for giving me the opportunity to play in this amazing game

[Metal Sonic]

finding a competent player to replace into this elite game seems okay though

The issue is looking for a specific playstyle, which happens not to be the case I don't think

[Metal Sonic]

How many pre in slots do you have

[Metal Sonic]

Is f 16 available to pre in as f22?