Mini 1637- Pokemon Generation I uPick (Game Over)

[Metal Sonic]

Hello I am god. I am unkillable. I am conftown


Now let's hunt scum

[Metal Sonic]

Wisdom. Hello. Please be town. Masonize/neighborize me please

[Metal Sonic]

I have caught up 100%

Strong townreads: bbt, not mafia, egg

Townreads: flames, micc

Suspicious: Bert, wisdom, tiershift

Kimi wa Baka: KBW

[Metal Sonic]

Espeonage, if I told you that my role is arceus will it help your role?

[Metal Sonic]

Remind me why is sheeping Wisdom a bad thing now? When was that implied?

There's a general hatred towards me in this game

your wagons suck wisdom

Wisdom is probably the last person in this game I'd sheep

174 - I second this statement so much. So, so much.

Fun thing is BBT and Egg have just one completed game with me, and Flames has two. Don't get why this is happening

lol

[Metal Sonic]

I mean I rib you a lot wisdom but did you seriously take my advice into deaf ears

[Metal Sonic]

Wisdom is concerned about his image therefore he must be scum.

Town wisdom wouldn't give a shit.


Do you agree?

@egg @notmafia @ flames

[Metal Sonic]

@bbt too

[Metal Sonic]

Metal sonic replaces espeonage

Will edit this fully tomorrow

Espeonage, if I told you that my role is arceus will it help your role?

LOL

VOTE: ms

Omg I just slipped!!!!!!!!


ggggggggg

[Metal Sonic]

Nvm, wisdom can be town


So fukken dumb



:p

[Metal Sonic]

Your head is as hard as a brick


Do you think it's more likely that notty would mistake who I replaced or I 'slip' as scum

Buffoon

[Metal Sonic]

Of course he did


You birdbrain

[Metal Sonic]

Why was that painful to read? Is it because of wisdom? Did you see my question addressed to you?

[Metal Sonic]

And why don't you say so

VOTE: micc

Because I expected you to have critical thinking skills that were necessary for good play in Mafia games

[Metal Sonic]

No. Yes.

[Metal Sonic]

Metal sonic replaces espeonage

Will edit this fully tomorrow

Judging from the tone and quality of this post, one may infer that notscience was in a hurry. Given the nature of notscience being likely to be careless, it was conceivable that it was an example of mod error rather than the extra-low possibility of Metal Sonic scum slipping upon his first posts of replacing in.

[Metal Sonic]

If you would like a DL extension due to me being out sick please let me know. This will be edited with the votecount and flavor later tonight.

Also, replacing LastManStanding.

Votecount 1.08

Flames682

(0)-

Bert

(1)-

Marquis

Marquis

(1)-

Micc

Seohyun

(0)-

LastManStanding

(1)-

Tiershift

Wisdom

(1)-

Espeonage

Espeonage

(1)-

Seohyun

Micc

(1)-

Wisdom

Egg

(0)-

BlueBloodedToffee

(3)-

Not_Mafia, Flames682, Keybladewielder

Keybladewielder

(3)-

LastManStanding, Egg, BlueBloodedToffee

Not_Mafia

(1)-

Bert

TierShift

(0)-

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Deadline is February 1st, 2015, at 11 AM EST. This is in (expired on 2015-02-01 11:00:00)

Given the note above the vote count which stated clearly "Replacing LastManStanding", one with logical thinking skills should conclude that I was a replacement for LastManStanding rather than espeonage, and one should make the assumption that notscience had informed me of who I was replacing, and therefore from the clue that I was referencing espeonage directly deduce that it was a case of mod error.

[Metal Sonic]

gawd

why did you have to replace in a game im in

because I am here to save the town from the likes of you

[Metal Sonic]

In the probable event that Wisdom begins to scumread, and consequently tunnel and push a wagon on a Mason, later in the game, I will be here to stop it, lest he incurs heavy liabilities for town.

Fortunately, it appears that some well-read members of the town are aware of this possible side effect of being in a game with user Wisdom, and have already put a "LOW CREDIBILITY RATING" notice to alert the other not-so-well-informed members of the town.


It looks like my presence is not so urgently needed after all!


Nevertheless, I will be staying in order to assist the town if any 'difficult cases' arise, and also in the meantime eliminate the scum with my best abilities.

[Metal Sonic]

yeah all these make much more sense for someone to think than simply taking what the mod said that happened as what happened

you take everything at ucking face value all the time and that's how you mislynch town all the ucking time. That's not how you play mafia, it's absolutely contrary to the principles of mafia which is to read between the lines

[Metal Sonic]

I happen to very mean to wisdom

Sorry wisdom!

[Metal Sonic]

I will still tease you though

For some twisted reasons I derive pleasure from attacking wisdoms credibility and calling him names

[Metal Sonic]

Oh, right, I forgot that I dismissed it.


Well then,

who do you think are the most likely candidates for scum at the moment? Why?

[Metal Sonic]

Quack quack, bitches

[Metal Sonic]

once again wisdom is content with playing the fool^


at least fools arent scum. hopefully.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: kbw

fashionable

[Metal Sonic]

btw i cant be lynched so you can stop trying tier

the lynch will go through and it will go to night but i will not die, so its like no lynching

we can tessst it though

[Metal Sonic]

Okay. Then don't test it. Tier shift is being scummy

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: tiershift

Apparently I've claimed so much of my role but you still want more

Greedy scum

[Metal Sonic]

Can't or shan't? Two different things sir. Your attempts to put me in a negative light with your malicious fiction is noted. To be scummy.

[Metal Sonic]

*diction


Obviously I am phoneposting

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: tiershift

[Metal Sonic]

Everyone should sheep me. Tiershift will flip scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.

Yeah. Lastmanstanding was the third vote on the kbw wagon, and the first that wasn't RVS. Ill agree that he didn't do much else, but I don't see that vote as being scummy.

You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.

He stated kbw was scummy (416), interacted with wisdom (420-476), voted kbw (478), called you scummy (482), voted you (483), then voted you again (489). All in that order. Maybe he decided you are more scummy? Ill agree that he should explain his reads, but I don't think the diconnect that you mentioned is really there.

I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.

When I find the time to actually engage people in this game ill come find you. Right now its lost somewhere between me actually having a social life this semester, and having other priorities.

Actually, I'd like you to point out my empty questions. I admit that I haven't done a ton of analysis, but certainly some that I fully stand behind. What exactly do you expect from me, and why do you feel I'm not living up to that?

I'm still thrown off by the "love this page" comment, and I don't exactly understand why 'love' was the word you chose based on your explanation. After that a good part of your ISO is you either pushing the LMS/MS wagon and calling the KBW null. The analysis that I think you are missing is what separates the two in your mind.

Spoiler: RE: Empty Questions

Egg, other reads?

Whichever slot metal sonic replaced is scum (LMS or Espeonage). Refer to: Organic Chemistry 1, Speedy Saki

explain. Not gonna read those games.

look, why would you ask town to test your claim?

why, wisdom?

About 60% of your recent ISO is you asking about other peoples reads. 30% of it is you pushing metal sonic wagon. You insist on finding out other players' explanations for their reads, but haven't done much analysis of your own, and it feels like empty noise. Are you really that interested to hear wisdom and bert explain why their reads are similar to your own? Or are you asking to look busy and engaged?

This post proves that micc is town

[Metal Sonic]

We need more votes on tier shift

[Metal Sonic]

*Micc

My sincerest apologies for this oversight

[Metal Sonic]

Metal Sonic: How about you explain the tiershift vote? And while you are at it, serious or not serious about being unlynchable?

Really, what the f do you expect from me?

Nothing more than I expect of any other player ... which is basically to be here and have an opinion I guess?

A scan of your ISO showed a whole lot of you asking for other opinions, and giving few of your own. Thats what I picked up on so thats what I wrote. Besides being a bit edgy about how you're being read, I actually like your recent posts starting with 498. They show what you are thinking, and

that

you are thinking which was a big part of what I originally questioned.

So, now that we are (maybe) on the same page, lets talk about Metal Sonic:
I'm coming around to understanding your push, but I keep coming back to the unlynchable claim which plunges toward me wanting to see him lynched. Are you factoring in the claim to your read? Do you think 1-shot scum unlynchable is a possible role in this game?

Wisdom: Make a case or something. I don't understand what youre trying to push and I'm kind of annoyed that you ignored Tier's question about it.

Serious.

And I kind of thought you made the case against tiershift for me lol, but for posterity he has not contributed an inkling to the game while asking others for contributions, typical scum pretending to interact

[Metal Sonic]

I don't make cases

Vote tier with me

[Metal Sonic]

No?

Yes.

[Metal Sonic]

I don't make cases

Vote tier with me

So that you can stop suck

[Metal Sonic]

I'd rather vote you than vote tier

There's a reason why there's an anti wisdom club not an anti sonic club



Please continue to suck, we'll pick you up later




Dear valued members of the town, I appeal to you to place a vote on to Tiershift because he is a prime suspect for a scum candidate

[Metal Sonic]

If KBW flips scum some people will be implicated

[Metal Sonic]

MS is my strongest one at this point

VOTE: MS

No, vote tier shift he is scum




Sheep me please I caught you in cutthroat mafia

[Metal Sonic]

You still haven't explained all your reads either

I've explained my tiershift read and that's what matters

The rest of the reads don't actually matter and I feel that explaining reads are usually a waste of time


All in all I'm still doing better than wisdom lol

[Metal Sonic]

Lmao you thought I was town and FF was scum.

Tier is scum why? Not seeing it

I thought you and FF were scum. So I did catch you lol

[Metal Sonic]

Read micc's post, he made the case against tier shift helpfully for me. And I replied him too

[Metal Sonic]

I don't care if you believe my claim or not, catch real scum pls, I'm obv town

[Metal Sonic]

......

I can explain all of this with "you're bad at scumhunting"


Who cares about LMS I don't lol

[Metal Sonic]

don't be stubborn like wisdom please

[Metal Sonic]

Instead, you're taking the easy way out by townreading me.

I know right? This town is full of god damned pussies. Be a brave hero like me, and join the hunt against TierScum!


Plebs.

Just give me ~2 lnes of reasoning and we can stop having this discussion.

Because scum like you are interested in calling people for useless reasoning but not at all interested in the content. Like "hey, give me some money i don't care how much it is", like

you're not interested in what he has to say,

you just are posturing and pretending to be 'helpful' by 'asking others to be helpful'


lynch tiershift because he is SCUM ffs

[Metal Sonic]

Lynch tier shift he is scum

[Metal Sonic]

^ i am also unkillable so scum can have a good night trying to kill me

[Metal Sonic]

Did we not ever actually get that deadline extension? Im out of town, hungover, and dont have a lot of time for this.

MS is serious about unlynchable. I dont think scum unlynchable is a role in this game. I also dont believe in letting an unlynchable claim go untested into the endgame. So, im completely up for lynching MS today. If he turns up unlynchable then hes confident town for the rest of the game.

VOTE: metal sonic

I'll try to be back in ~10 hours after bowling.

but seriously tiershift is scum

[Metal Sonic]

Just popping in to say that bbt is super town


Tier shift is still super scum


And a policy lynch on wisdom can be a possible scenario

[Metal Sonic]

I just disagreed with everything you said MS

Why do you disagree with the policy lynch on wisdom? Aren't you a member of anti wisdom club?

[Metal Sonic]

And it was meant to be a joke

[Metal Sonic]

If I die, please look at Tier tomorrow.

if you don't die, still please look at Tier tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: tiershift

[Metal Sonic]

BBT, I don't understand your push on me. I really don't. What is the scum motivation you see in my play?

OK, 76 and 498 are posts that just feel off. 76 feels like you're talking to Esp like you know he is town (potential slip?) and 498 is the cog dis with Micc that doesn't make sense, especially with it being in the same post.

These are only small points though, my main points are;

Your flinging of mud at the KBW wagon. You highlighted the votes but didn't actually pursue it any further. The scum motivation is that you highlight the votes for other people to see and hope that someone begins a push from it. This allows you to join the wagon at a later date (because you claim to not like the votes whilst doing nothing about it) and not be the main driving force behind a potential town lynch. This means you come under much less scrutiny the day after.

Also, you said at the time that you were null-reading KBW. When I challenged you on this at a later date, you said you were opposed to the KBW wagon. Can you show me where you were opposed to the KBW wagon? Because I don't see it.

You didn't respond to the post below either;

Look at this shit.

1. The wording of it. Why would you advise scum how to find your flavour?
2. No, you wasn't against the KBW wagon. In fact, if you was, then why didn't you pursue any of the votes on the wagon? Secondly, if you were against it, why did you say this;

KBW has been null unless you think his "playing around rather than getting serious" is scummy (which i don't this early in the game)

My thoughts.

3. I've read the game. You're my top scum-read. I'd very much like to get you lynched.

645 - Bert, Micc is not likely to get lynched toDay.

654 - Seo, I keep going on about your vote because I dislike it. I dislike how long you left it for, I dislike how you tried to claim it was still an RVS vote despite the fact the game had clearly started and I dislike that you only unvoted when you started to come under pressure for your vote.

Can you explain why me not explaining a town-read makes me scum?

why are dumb people not lynching tiershift? bbt just kindly made a case against tiershift for me and poopheads like wisdom go "where's your case"

there is no reason not to vote tiershift. there is a case against him. holy shit. dumb people and scum trying to find excuses to avoid the good lynch

[Metal Sonic]

499 - Why are you scum-reading Micc, Wisdom?

because he's scum

Why is he town?

Why is he town?

Because he is.

this is fantastic

[Metal Sonic]

wisdom is probably scum


he actually fakes his dumbness as scum

[Metal Sonic]

you know what? i cant fucking tell.

he helps scum as scum and is scum as scum

this is a perfect example of when to use a policy lynch. not those silly aberrations that the site meta has shifted to nowadays.

this example of policy lynch should go on the wiki

that i dont read

[Metal Sonic]

it is! i have micc as town and you as even more obvtown

[Metal Sonic]

flames is town but is on the wrong track


wisdom is... of a special needs

[Metal Sonic]

because of this exchange

499 - Why are you scum-reading Micc, Wisdom?

because he's scum

Why is he town?

Why is he town?

Because he is.

this is fantastic

[Metal Sonic]

Wisdom/Seo/Egg/

Bert

/NM/

Tier

is the Micc wagon.

Scum in red. At least two scum on that wagon. If all three are on, Seo could be third.

Why are you so sure I am town MS?

why seo?

[Metal Sonic]

i disagree with marquis and flames. seo is a better option in my opinion relatively, but lets remove the two main scum that you highlighted before jumping the gun.

yeah you are strong town and this time you are not a mason so i have no trouble being outspoken about it

[Metal Sonic]

so why did we speed hammer again ?

[Metal Sonic]

This is giving me a bad impression of not science's modding skills. Doesn't he have a comod? Ffs

[Metal Sonic]

Oh and game related content:

If

both

1. Micc flips scum

AND

2. FULL role pm's flip or FULL ability explanations flip

are fulfilled,

I am using my action on Metal Sonic tonight.

1 the sky falls

2 the coin flips head


Then you will pass me the valuable information.

Don't buy it, sounds like a sham

[Metal Sonic]

Sounds like a lucky draw scam

[Metal Sonic]

Still awful modding.

WTF is going on here. Hope you're around to help out Micc because I'm considering replacing out.

VCA is worth fuck all in this game with lack of VC's.

[Metal Sonic]

Why replace you? Replace the mod!

[Metal Sonic]

The saddest restricted town roleblocker ever

VOTE: tiershift

[Metal Sonic]

Bullshit, you're scum

[Metal Sonic]

Yes. Lynch you.

[Metal Sonic]

Are

you

gonna do something productive today?

[Metal Sonic]

A lack of a yes means no

[Metal Sonic]

Tiershift already made it clear that he isn't going to be productive today

Why aren't you pushing him?

[Metal Sonic]

This game is sad and scum will win


I probably should bail

[Metal Sonic]

lynch tiershift

[Metal Sonic]

Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.

Yeah. Lastmanstanding was the third vote on the kbw wagon, and the first that wasn't RVS. Ill agree that he didn't do much else, but I don't see that vote as being scummy.

You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.

He stated kbw was scummy (416), interacted with wisdom (420-476), voted kbw (478), called you scummy (482), voted you (483), then voted you again (489). All in that order. Maybe he decided you are more scummy? Ill agree that he should explain his reads, but I don't think the diconnect that you mentioned is really there.

I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.

When I find the time to actually engage people in this game ill come find you. Right now its lost somewhere between me actually having a social life this semester, and having other priorities.

Actually, I'd like you to point out my empty questions. I admit that I haven't done a ton of analysis, but certainly some that I fully stand behind. What exactly do you expect from me, and why do you feel I'm not living up to that?

I'm still thrown off by the "love this page" comment, and I don't exactly understand why 'love' was the word you chose based on your explanation. After that a good part of your ISO is you either pushing the LMS/MS wagon and calling the KBW null. The analysis that I think you are missing is what separates the two in your mind.

Spoiler: RE: Empty Questions

Egg, other reads?

Whichever slot metal sonic replaced is scum (LMS or Espeonage). Refer to: Organic Chemistry 1, Speedy Saki

explain. Not gonna read those games.

look, why would you ask town to test your claim?

why, wisdom?

About 60% of your recent ISO is you asking about other peoples reads. 30% of it is you pushing metal sonic wagon. You insist on finding out other players' explanations for their reads, but haven't done much analysis of your own, and it feels like empty noise. Are you really that interested to hear wisdom and bert explain why their reads are similar to your own? Or are you asking to look busy and engaged?

case

[Metal Sonic]

410 - Seo, I don't like how you're still defending your vote as RVS. You left it on too long for it to be an RVS vote, and you unvoted when you started to attract some heat. It feels scummy. Your reasoning for those reads is pretty weak as well.

Also, Egg is asking questions I would have asked. He can be town.

416 - MS, I would love to know how you're town-reading me. Other than that, I think Tier & Bert are good lynches.

428 - Can you explain how you went from Wisdom!Scum to Wisdom!Town please?

455 - Bert, why is MS scummier than your previous top scum-reads of Micc & NM?

458 - This post from Tier, wow. You're accusing someone of having shit reasons for their top scum-read when your reasoning for your top scum-read (and vote) is;

ohey you're right NM LMS seems like a good place to vote

VOTE: lastmanstanding

Look at his ISO!
LMS, why are you voting kbw?

Tier looks like a

really

good lynch.

examples

Micc, you might want to take a look at MS's predecessor LMS just hopping onto the kbw wagon.
You also might want to notice the disconnect between MS's reads and actions; he says kbw is scummiest but votes me for no stated reason.

In the first part of this post, you're talking to Micc like he is town.

I'm thinking micc might be scum; his read on me is very shallow and he doesn't engage to try and improve it.

Then you go on to say he could be scum.

Inconsistency feels scummy.

499 - Why are you scum-reading Micc, Wisdom?

examples

BBT, I don't understand your push on me. I really don't. What is the scum motivation you see in my play?

OK, 76 and 498 are posts that just feel off. 76 feels like you're talking to Esp like you know he is town (potential slip?) and 498 is the cog dis with Micc that doesn't make sense, especially with it being in the same post.

These are only small points though, my main points are;

Your flinging of mud at the KBW wagon. You highlighted the votes but didn't actually pursue it any further. The scum motivation is that you highlight the votes for other people to see and hope that someone begins a push from it. This allows you to join the wagon at a later date (because you claim to not like the votes whilst doing nothing about it) and not be the main driving force behind a potential town lynch. This means you come under much less scrutiny the day after.

Also, you said at the time that you were null-reading KBW. When I challenged you on this at a later date, you said you were opposed to the KBW wagon. Can you show me where you were opposed to the KBW wagon? Because I don't see it.

You didn't respond to the post below either;

Look at this shit.

1. The wording of it. Why would you advise scum how to find your flavour?
2. No, you wasn't against the KBW wagon. In fact, if you was, then why didn't you pursue any of the votes on the wagon? Secondly, if you were against it, why did you say this;

KBW has been null unless you think his "playing around rather than getting serious" is scummy (which i don't this early in the game)

My thoughts.

3. I've read the game. You're my top scum-read. I'd very much like to get you lynched.

645 - Bert, Micc is not likely to get lynched toDay.

654 - Seo, I keep going on about your vote because I dislike it. I dislike how long you left it for, I dislike how you tried to claim it was still an RVS vote despite the fact the game had clearly started and I dislike that you only unvoted when you started to come under pressure for your vote.

Can you explain why me not explaining a town-read makes me scum?

examples

[Metal Sonic]

I counter.

Judgement: Egg

[Metal Sonic]

I'm an SK

[Metal Sonic]

inb4 10 days delay for fake daykill

[Metal Sonic]

It takes effect at night

thats even worse. now you will need to wait for 30 days to see me dead.


or not.

[Metal Sonic]

Let's lynch tiershift

[Metal Sonic]

Vote first talk later

[Metal Sonic]

that's how this bad game works

[Metal Sonic]

I think everyone is pretty scummy this game

[Metal Sonic]

I think the mod is pretty scummy this game. He is lurking


VOTE: prof oak

[Metal Sonic]

Let's all replace out

[Metal Sonic]

Let's not, forget I said that.


But this is a sad game

[Metal Sonic]

omg that was so rude I can't believe I said that.



Lynch Tiershift is all I can say

[Metal Sonic]

I can but what if I'm right.

[Metal Sonic]

He is scummy

[Metal Sonic]

Tiershift is scum

[Metal Sonic]

And wisdom

[Metal Sonic]

I dont care

[Metal Sonic]

I'd replace out but that means some else has to take this bullshit.

And I am a great bullshit taker so here is my noble sacrifice

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: tiershift

Pple saying no vehemently are scum btw

[Metal Sonic]

Especially flames682

[Metal Sonic]

Tier you've still not answered, what attitude?

The attitude of not explaining thngs but expecting others to.

We can excuse him for this game only.

Or he could be the scum instead. And not tiershift. Hmm.

[Metal Sonic]

not vehement enough

[Metal Sonic]

there is an error in the modding

[Metal Sonic]

i love you notscience but im not joining a game of yours ever again

[Metal Sonic]

Apathy error

[Metal Sonic]

He posted a long post, must be town!


Let's policy lunch
VOTE: wisdom

[Metal Sonic]

Professor Oak.

[Metal Sonic]

@mod Please replace me

How long do you think for this request to be resolved?

[Metal Sonic]

i was going to wait as a last chance to them.

this same exact thing happened in notty's last game i was in and he was penalized. maybe it's improper but i want to give them this one chance.

after all what are we going to do? we can't get any deader anyway.

I serve as witness

[Metal Sonic]

Yes, I told you Professor Oak was scum

[Metal Sonic]

oh sweet he's back

[Metal Sonic]

Ok

VOTE: not mafia

[Metal Sonic]

Let's have another 5 day long twilight

[Metal Sonic]

No, because he wasn't being scum-read.

maybe he is scum and he thought "this game sucks"

maybe he is town and he thought "this game sucks"


this game sucks

[Metal Sonic]

2 hours before Oak hits 2 days.

then what? we'll kindly let equinox know that this game is crumpled, she force ends the game, we all post our role pms and congratulation each other on how good or bad our reads were


and never join a notscience game again

[Metal Sonic]

i mean i <3 notscience and i <3 nati



but

the hosting was objectively terrible

[Metal Sonic]

i dont want to play anymore tbh

lets have a vote

VOTE: End game early or VOTE: don't end game early


either way equinox will know about this