Mini 1650: Greatest Idea Mafia (Game Over)

[Guyett]

i'm here. Will post later

[Guyett]

So I'm here and sober.
Could someone tell me who has claimed what? I don;t intend on reading stuff just yet

[Guyett]

what role did my slot claim?

[Guyett]

well thats not true anyway

[Guyett]

Who is Soren?

[Guyett]

so you're not a scum PGO?

no

[Guyett]

tonight, promise. we have a ginat post incoming for that i just need to get mollies approval (odds are she will allow it)

why do you need Mollies approval? Is this the Ika I know?

[Guyett]

@KittyCupCake, what card did you use for your alignment?

I think this is something that everyone should do.
My slot used Conspiracy Theorist as its alignment card. This was the only town aligned card that the slot received.

[Guyett]

Name	Alignment Card	Role Card	Discarded Card	Final Combination
copper223			Mafia Goon
Dechs Kaison			Vanilla Townie
Kaboose			Vanilla Townie
KittyCupCake			Innocent Child
kiwieagle			Ascetic Townie
guille2015			Bulletproof Alien Lover
Guyett	Conspiracy Theorist		Werewolf Gravedigger
NeedfulThings			Alien Mass Redirector
Pirate Ika			Mafia Goon
prawneater			1-Shot Unlynchable Townie
Soren			Alien Psychotrooper
Soviet Crocolisk			Town FBI Agent
Whomping Willow			Town Lover

[Guyett]

@KittyCupCake, what card did you use for your alignment?

I think this is something that everyone should do.

No no no, we've been over this. This gives town absolutely no benefit. Please do not push for this.

Also, please read the thread.

I've played lots of Greater/est Idea games, this works

[Guyett]

I'd love to know what KittyCupCake used for their alignment

[Guyett]

in fact

VOTE: KittyCupCake

[Guyett]

@Guyett
How do you expect to catch scum without reading what was said before you replaced in?

I plan on coasting until day 3 and then crushing unsuspecting scum

[Guyett]

I might get around to it but there's 40 pages, it'd be just great if someone could summarise what went on

[Guyett]

Name	Alignment Card	Role Card	Discarded Card	Final Combination
copper223			Mafia Goon
Dechs Kaison			Vanilla Townie
Kaboose			Vanilla Townie
KittyCupCake			Innocent Child
kiwieagle			Ascetic Townie
guille2015			Bulletproof Alien Lover
Guyett	Conspiracy Theorist		Werewolf Gravedigger
NeedfulThings			Alien Mass Redirector
Pirate Ika			Mafia Goon
prawneater			1-Shot Unlynchable Townie
Soren			Alien Psychotrooper
Soviet Crocolisk			Town FBI Agent
Whomping Willow			Town Lover

Dafuq is this

This my friend is how to catch scum in lies. EVERYTHING claimed goes in this table so we know who claimed what. This means claims don't get lost and forgotten about.

[Guyett]

How do you know who discarded what?

I didn't revealed my discarded cards. Or any of my cards for that matter.

The discards are always made public

Discarded Cards

copper223:

Mafia Goon

Dechs Kaison:

Vanilla Townie

Diego1487:

Werewolf Gravedigger

Kaboose:

Vanilla Townie

KittyCupCake:

Innocent Child

kiwieagle:

Ascetic Townie

guille2015:

Bulletproof Alien Lover

NeedfulThings:

Alien Mass Redirector

Pirate Ika:

Mafia Goon

prawneater:

1-Shot Unlynchable Townie

Soren:

Alien Psychotrooper

Soviet Crocolisk:

Town FBI Agent

Whomping Willow:

Town Lover

[Guyett]

How do you know who discarded what?

I didn't revealed my discarded cards. Or any of my cards for that matter.

The discards are always made public

Discarded Cards

copper223:

Mafia Goon

Dechs Kaison:

Vanilla Townie

Diego1487:

Werewolf Gravedigger

Kaboose:

Vanilla Townie

KittyCupCake:

Innocent Child

kiwieagle:

Ascetic Townie

guille2015:

Bulletproof Alien Lover

NeedfulThings:

Alien Mass Redirector

Pirate Ika:

Mafia Goon

prawneater:

1-Shot Unlynchable Townie

Soren:

Alien Psychotrooper

Soviet Crocolisk:

Town FBI Agent

Whomping Willow:

Town Lover

Holy shit.

Unless Dechs got more than one vanilla townie card, he must be scum.

Why?

Did he claim alignment from one?

[Guyett]

how many of them were not Vanilla Townie?

[Guyett]

Why didn't you discard that one?

[Guyett]

You might as well full claim now, I'll start filling in the table

[Guyett]

what else has been claimed?

[Guyett]

So you got 2 vanilla townie cards and 1 other vanilla card?

Your argument about not being able to choose which card to discard is horseshit btw

[Guyett]

And aren't you allowed to ask for a reshuffle and get a new set of cards if you don't like the set of cards you got? So why didn't you do that when you saw that you got three vanilla cards Dechs?

You have to chose from the cards you get. Only way to get a different choice is if too many scum roles are in the game

[Guyett]

I have got all role pm's and played this mods games before. I know for a fact you can choose what to discard

[Guyett]

The fact you didn't choose the discard indicates you are using the unique card as your alignment.

This means you are either {Survivor, Underdog, Saulus or Judas}

[Guyett]

@Mod

Hypothetically speaking if a person had Werewolf, Mafia Goon and Vanilla Townie would you give them the option of which card to use as a Role card and which to use as a Discarded Card?

[Guyett]

If you had, hypothetically of course, 2 VT cards and Judas and you wanted to be Vanilla Townie then that means either you get role from Judas or VT and you discard the other.


I really doubt the mod would make that decision as it is influencing the game as people put stock into what people have discarded. You should have been given the option:

Vanilla townie (judas discarded)
Vanilla townie(vanilla townie discarded)

[Guyett]

I'm going to wait to see if Zaicon answers my question. He is a very experienced mod and I really doubt he would have made a decision like that for you. It would be influencing the game imo.

[Guyett]

Before night ends i'd like to know why kitty discarded innocent child

[Guyett]

Before the day ends obviously

[Guyett]

If there is a vig dechs would be a great shot

[Guyett]

Is kiwi here? He might be able to answer some questions as he has claimed to have discarded town ascetic and used town lover for alignment.


First off which PGO card did you get
secondly in your options you should have got 2 town 1 shot paranoid gun owner options (ascetic as alignment or lover as alignment ).
Did you have the option of which card to discard (ascetic or lover)?

[Guyett]

@ika

Firstly where is this giant post?
Secondly all you've posted is fluff, why so careful with this giant post? Why are you being cautious?

[Guyett]

Actually why discard town ascetic (unique card) and keep lover (multiple card) for your alignment?

[Guyett]

I am a town 1 shot paranoid gun owner
Discarded town ascetic and town lover

Thought of claiming vigilante but investigatove roles might have died if they had visited me


Enemy factions wont dare target me unless they have redirectors and town should be smart

Who can spot the lie? or the misinformtion?

because this is greatest idea mafia and you only discard 1 card.

UNVOTE: whoever i voted earlier, kitty?
VOTE: kiwi

That looks to me like an honest mistake (one that I've made and seen other make in GIM). He's thinking that he took the town one shot paranoid gun owner card and discarded his other two, but he took the alignment of at least one of those. It makes it easier to mistake with the way the Mod presented our choices in the PM when he showed us all the combinations.

[Guyett]

Name	Alignment Card	Role Card	Discarded Card	Final Combination
copper223			Mafia Goon
Dechs Kaison			Vanilla Townie
Kaboose			Vanilla Townie
KittyCupCake			Innocent Child
kiwieagle	Lover		Ascetic Townie	One Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
guille2015			Bulletproof Alien Lover
Guyett	Conspiracy Theorist		Werewolf Gravedigger
NeedfulThings	Conspiracy Theorist		Alien Mass Redirector
Pirate Ika			Mafia Goon
prawneater			1-Shot Unlynchable Townie	Hider
Soren			Alien Psychotrooper
Soviet Crocolisk	Gravedigger		Town FBI Agent
Whomping Willow	Vanilla Townie		Town Lover

I think this is up to date?

[Guyett]

Thanks

[Guyett]

Well that's not how the role distribution was worded. It looked like this:

Jank Alignment [stuff]
Vanilla Townie [stuff]

Jank Alignment (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)
Vanilla Townie (Duplicate)

And it told me to pick from that list. I did. I never specified which to discard.

[Guyett]

If you never specified which to discard it means you used VT as your Role and one of your unique non town vanilla cards as an alignment card.

Therefore Dechs is (assuming he told the truth about 3 vanilla cards with 1 being non town unique) either a

Survivor

,

Underdog

,

Jud

as

or

Sau

lus

.

I doubt he is Saulres as it would be against his current mafia wincon to out himself in this way

[Guyett]

Why not use Innocent Child for alignment?

[Guyett]

I want a full claim from pirate ika

[Guyett]

Ok you're off the hook for now

VOTE: dechs

[Guyett]

Have you claimed stuff WW?

[Guyett]

Anyone who self governs is playing in a self preservative way. I think he might be 3rd party or scum on his own. Lynch tomorrow or shoot if there is a vig

[Guyett]

Ika is L-1

Claim now please

[Guyett]

Name	Alignment Card	Role Card	Discarded Card	Final Combination
copper223			Mafia Goon
Dechs Kaison	Jud as	Vanilla Townie	Vanilla Townie	Jud as
Kaboose			Vanilla Townie
KittyCupCake	Mason Lover		Innocent Child
kiwieagle	Lover		Ascetic Townie	One Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
guille2015			Bulletproof Alien Lover
Guyett	Conspiracy Theorist		Werewolf Gravedigger
NeedfulThings	Conspiracy Theorist		Alien Mass Redirector
Pirate Ika			Mafia Goon
prawneater		Hider	1-Shot Unlynchable Townie
Soren			Alien Psychotrooper
Soviet Crocolisk	Gravedigger		Town FBI Agent
Whomping Willow	Vanilla Townie		Town Lover

[Guyett]

I will probably hammer in an hour

[Guyett]

?

You'd prefer a no lynch?

[Guyett]

Fuck you anyway

dayvig:Soren

[Guyett]

[Guyett]

no you dont, you're dead

[Guyett]

Soren is town

Why?

[Guyett]

VOTE: WW


See you all in 2 days

[Guyett]

Hey Copper

Why would you investigate the day's most likely lynch?

I'm taking this as a confession of guilt.

Instead of fighting the accusation of being called mafia he wonders why he was investigated.

[Guyett]

Why are people assuming Aliens are in the game. 3 alien cards were discarded and they are literally the worst faction ever

[Guyett]

Legitimately the worst town I have ever seen. Go Wolves/Aliens

Also if you are town you should be cheering on town regardless

[Guyett]

Hey Copper

Why would you investigate the day's most likely lynch?

I'm taking this as a confession of guilt.

Instead of fighting the accusation of being called mafia he wonders why he was investigated.

If town wants to pull their head out their arse

Lynch this. And Kitty. Kaboose could be scum also, but might just be oblivious. Copper prob scum for how he handled his investigation.

I am the towniest town that ever has towned. You're over 90% scum and if you are town you are a distraction that needs to be removed before X-Lo

[Guyett]

Likely Guille is the other scum, either him or Guyett or both, if it's not one if them someone bussed Whomping and it gets harder.

Guille is confirmed town.

Hide behind me tonight

[Guyett]

please hide behind me. You won't die and I will be very useful to town as confirmed town

[Guyett]

Also due to the nature of my hammer today scum won't kill me

[Guyett]

Not sure how I feel about someone requesting to be hid behind.

If I was scum would I request to be hid behind?

[Guyett]

There is only an exceptionally small chance of you dying tonight

[Guyett]

Whoops forgot about the DK claim.

I'll hide behind Kaboose.

Hide behind me please

[Guyett]

Only way Guile cant be town is if prawn isn't a hider or is a scum hider trolling

[Guyett]

K so Guyett

is

scum

[Guyett]

If we have a doctor protect Soren

Prawn needs to hide behind me

[Guyett]

Whoops forgot about the DK claim.

I'll hide behind Kaboose.

Kaboose is scum
Kitty is scum

If we have a day vig it'd be great to shoot one now

[Guyett]

Does Copper have any results?

we also seem to be missing a kill, probably kabooses

[Guyett]

Kitty full claim now

[Guyett]

Copper you should come out with results today, might help break the game

[Guyett]

then explain how prawn died?

[Guyett]

Another short day:/

[Guyett]

I wanted more info from people. Also I wanted to hammer

[Guyett]

fine with me

[Guyett]

If the game isn't over by then you'll have to go

[Guyett]

Because if you are an Underdog you're now a Werewolf

[Guyett]

That's why I didn't want an auto hammer here. Kitty is scum but there could be a larger scum team here that can win with kitty dead

[Guyett]

Myself and guile are town.

kiwi and copper are variables

[Guyett]

gg scum

[Guyett]

I wish we finished my chart on the first day

[Guyett]

I've run a Greatest Idea game on my other site and one of the guys actually chose an Alien Conspiracy Theorist for a laugh

[Guyett]

He was already essentially claiming one of those 4 options

[Guyett]

I once subbed into a game as a scum doc when I lost all of my teammates.

true story

I once subbed into a game as scum encryptor with all my teammates dead. It was super fun

[Guyett]

If you never specified which to discard it means you used VT as your Role and one of your unique non town vanilla cards as an alignment card.

Therefore Dechs is (assuming he told the truth about 3 vanilla cards with 1 being non town unique) either a

Survivor

,

Underdog

,

Jud

as

or

Sau

lus

.

I doubt he is Saulres as it would be against his current mafia wincon to out himself in this way

I can assure you that Dechs is not me.

Hey at least this time I spelt Saulus right