Mini 1670 - WTF MAFIA

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Mmmm'kay

VOTE: oddmusic

Hey again, why so odd?

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Really?

Hmmm...if I could just put some makeup on Flubber, a little makeup should do the trick.

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Well maybe a lot, there's much to conceal

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Yo, Magic Mike - what's your alignment?

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I'm wondering about overly complicated role PMs because mine's is like short and sweet

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No baby, why is that what your's says?

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Bella,

The WTF face, you mean?

I had a wtf moment for a second and then I thought, this could be interesting...

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Or ask more details like how does his vote work, how many times (or what limits) there are on his vote, and stuff like that. Also, McMenno why did you choose to just spill your guts in the first post of the game instead of waiting till you were in any danger?

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VOTE: McMenno

Let's ride this train

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Bins claim makes sense and is not overly complicated while mcmennos does not. There's a difference.

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I'm not scum, lurking seems like a scum tell for mcmenno. Good shot by vig, flubbee has been scum in every game we've been in together.

I hate being called scummy by people who can't get genders wrong.

I've played with who's before as an alt, meh.

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Why the hated?

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Yo bins is a she and are I like so

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So much overlap in players across games that I keep losing track of this one and just have been a bit busy. Sorry!

I just re-read the game. Flubber trying to get Ricastle to vote me and seeing if there was space to push me is interesting and he's done that before. It makes me lean Ricastle as town. Of those interactions I think Derangement is most closely trying to mirror Flubber. I also didn't like oddmusic's post about mafia down, the tone seemed a bit off (and I feel like I see alignment between him and Derangment). I would guess that one or both of Derangement and oddmusic are scum.

About Bins role, I've heard of and seen hated before so I don't have many questions since the role itself doesn't say anything about alignment. Her posts so far seem pro-town and trying to move the game out of nauseating discussions about minutiae that can't be resolved until post game when ika reveals the setup.

Shos also strikes me as off. He is messing up player genders and continues to do so even after being clarified. That strikes me as purposeful. There is also a distance there.

Some players need to interact more.

VOTE: Derangement

oddmusic, hi there. lets play.

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Shos also strikes me as off. He is messing up player genders and continues to do so even after being clarified. That strikes me as purposeful. There is also a distance there.

I'm sorry, are you calling me scum because I call people 'he' instead of 'she'?

I'm calling you scummy because you are acting as if you are reading the game closely and are offering thoughts but you can't get player genders right and that kind of dissonance stands out.

Move off mcmenno, put him on the backburner and work on finding scum.

Derangement and odd music is where it's at. Shos a close third as scummy dude.

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LOL, prolly not this kind of attention

That's a NOU right there. 13 is nothing, how would you play in a normal? It may not be possible to remember everything but knowing why you're voting someone and being able to explain it as well as having looked closely enough at them to know details is important. It's also not that hard.

The McMenno was a general statement for town hence it being on its own and in a new paragraph without a person's name attached. Yay.

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omg this avi is so adorable, Bella! Is the Penguin doing stretches before it engages in Happy Feet dancing?

Yeah, shos is trying to appear noobish on purpose. The expectation there boi is that you don't have to be asked so that town could follow your logic and you can't hide behind acting like the dullest tool in the box. Yeah? I thought so.

Agree on prod but I think derangement is a good lynch for today. The disappearance after the buddy is caught plus the two people who tried to derail its wagon are probably scum affiliates.

VOTE: Derangement

Let's get more on this and watch scum squirm to counterwagon...

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yes it is

Bins, is that just in regards to mafia or life in general? That feeling that something intangibly elusive is out there and you just need t...

shos I've seen your scum game(s) so ur reaching mate and like need to try harder to detract attention from derangement whos obv scum and needs the noose but let the deranged stand on the stool for a little bit longer...let the stool rock back and forth and we see the sheen of sweat and tears....

prod prod prod the lurky turkies

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It's like shos you are ignoring the derangement and Flubber interactions, that were made. The vig was lucky and smart and they would do well to remain hidden in case they have more shots so now you're also trying to draw the vig out.

Look at the interactions and tell me you don't see two people working together to keep conversation on mcmenno and FOS other people.

Your not just hyper as scum, your also fixating on minutae and tunneling like you did on Bellaphant without any concrete reasons. If you aren't scum then look at the game carefully and state what you see between flubber, derangement, and oddmusic.

If you have meta that says differently then say so and link to it but I've also played with Flubber before.

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Oh Jeanne11 you are a character kind of like Kat from Victorious. I don't understand the claim. I'm guessing Jeanne you have a role that allows you to choose the lynch of the day? We are hoping to lynch scum hun so I'm not sure why you are so excitable but take a deep breath and listen to some nice music.

Shos I'll check out the game probably not tonight. It seems like flubber and derangment are working together.

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So basically I asked your for a link to flubber's meta, thought you provided it since your link is unclickable told you I would follow up on it later and you try to vote me for what? Huge misrepresentation and at this point you are either blatant scum flailing like a fish on a sandy beach to deal with the fallout of an excellent vig shot or that's all I got here.

You are quite purposefully pretending to misunderstand and trying to derail a wagon on

derangement

who disappeared conveniently when flubber got NKed and who

I will flay alive...with interrogation...

when derangement returns.

Why would you even think I needed a link to anything in this game when I or others discussed the scummy interactions?

quote="In post 312, elusive"]

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ok so I fully read this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25010
and I have no idea what interactions you find scummy, please enlighten me. also, I don't see why keeping the discussion on mcmenno is bad since I did it too willingly; and I have no idea what any of you want with oddmusic in his 2 posts which were OK.

Shos I'll check out the game probably not tonight. It seems like flubber and derangment are working together.

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Morning


VOTE: elusive
Intriguing how you tell me he is scum by interactions
Then I read them and link to tgem
Then you say you'll read
>>that means you lied about it earlier

Well that was easy

Shos

1. Shos is trying to find any reason to vote me or Bella or anyone but has no concrete cases except for BSing and is purposefully pretending to lack comprehension skills
2. Not buying it, shos. So first you die and tonight Derangement gets a visit from whichever town has an interesting ability.

VOTE: shos

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I already said I didn't have time to click on the link? Why would I need you to link me to what I and others already discussed?

You don't see anything weird about their interactions? Well several people disagree.

Sure, I'll hammer you because you're either a scum flailing about like a fish on a sandy beach or you're truly anti-town. Your scum reads are basically anyone FOSing derangement so that in itself is bizarre.

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BRantz, look at the sequence of him coming in right as a wagon began forming on derangement. Then if you look at how derangement was mirroring flubber early on, it looks suspicious coupled with his disappearing after flubber was vig'ed. Flubber tried to get Ricastle and whoever he was hinting too (derangement and odd likely?) to start moving the mcmenno wagon onto me.

Shos voted Bella without a case or any reasons and then after I started asking him for reasons he's been doing a massive NOU and WIFOM BS. No logical thought or rhyme or reason just him barking scum at anyone who points to derangement (Bella also voted him and that got shos his first scumread and then me, who next).

Shos is trying to claim supersaint or maybe jester, I don't know. I just know he's massively trying to detract from the look at derangement and oddmusic and its not working.

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Jeanne11, have you played any games on this site's newbie queue? I'm just thinking that it might be super helpful, hun because you sometimes do things that don't make sense or could be anti-town. Is there a player you really like on the site because you may also want to hydra in a game and see how that works?

Jeanne11 is mislynch bait in games because she's very new and comes from a site where the culture us quite different. Jeanne11, honestly, answer questions directed to you and if you are confused or lost ask first for clarification.

Shos, my summary of the reasons Derangement seems scummy is understandable by everyone but you. If I have the time or inclination, I'll do a point by point for you because you're missing some marbles.

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Bella, I've played in one game with oddmusic before and he was super town and active and engaged so his behavior here seems very strange. In that game when asked for reads or content he did what he could. So I don't understand the lurking or apathy.

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More tonight, I need to catch up on a bunch of stuff.

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If some who is really really townie hammers me, it's easier
alternatively, we can just have elusive unvote and hammer me later for good stuff to happen

I'm 100% town and would like to survive to do x and y. Are you town and will me hammering you result in a town net gain?

VOTE: unvote

Drixx, it may be some sort of communication issue but shos is acting wonky.

@ika,

prods or replaces on derangement and odd? Brantz has been quiet as well.

Jeanne, since you've shared some other stuff, what is your alignment? And also who would you lynch if you were choosing right now?

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The problem with semantics slip is I have a 1 to 1 ratio with it where one time it was scum and the other time it was town so I'm trying to go beyond that as a reason to scumread someone.

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Scum will not hammer a supposed supersaint. Town might out of disbelief, etc.

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Hey, shos you furry little monster...what are you doing? Are you even possibly town? Are you on something right now?

I hate town mislynches and I am not a fan of getting someone to kill themselves to rid ourselves of your hyperstrange presence.

Ricastle, with him gunning for his own death I wonder about him being a jester? I'd like to see him viged at night or contained some other way just in case? What do you think? Or what do people think in general?

He doesn't read town to me, he reads as either squirming third party or squirming scum.

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So you're going to be uncooperative?

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I find you really annoying shos. You are anti-town. You won't work with anyone and have made this whole day post the awesome vig shot into all about you. It's boring and useless.

We need replaces for oddmusic and derangement? Also waiting on more from Brantz.

Jeane11, I'm going to repeat my recommendation that you join the newbie queue. It's a good place to start out

Drixx, usually you have sensible posts, what do you think of the rest of the cast?

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I agree, I'm waiting for McMenno to hammer. Move the game forward.

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VOTE: shos

There, we are. I forgot I unvoted.

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I suspected derangement for mirroring flubber. I suspected oddmusic because in the game we were in together (delicious mafia) he was active and logical as town. I wasn't able to follow up on my reads by questioning either one because guess what shos, they disappeared.

Do you understand mirroring at least?

Your playing this game with your role and dropping hints and then find it odd that people are trying to figure out?

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Derangement agrees with or mirrors Flubbers thoughts in posts #27, #45,

Flubber tries to push Drixx mislynch while Derangement (even after questioning from Bins) continues to push mcmenno. Both flubber and derangement then start pushing Drixx hard in several posts. And they post one after the other or close to each other as well.

Flubber defends Derangement against Ricastle's vote in #137. He then in #141 and #146 and #149 tries to push Ricastle off voting derangement to voting me. Why? Then Derangement soft pushes Ricastle to the same end in #152. Oh and flubber chimes in to agree with derangement in #154, #159, and #160.

#175 - Some town BAMF kills Flubber for his obvious scumbagness. BOOM.

Derangement #183 - reaction to Flubber vig killed, the person he was working closely with\mirroring is "Insidious.Also, good riddance." Fake.

Post #185 - oddmusic suddenly stops lurking and enters the game, starts by commenting on the Flubber kill with less then enthusiasm and then FOS'es derangement without voting him. Yes, 182 is terrible and scummy and oddmusica and derangement are scumbuddies.

And then of course, shos pops in to make several posts in support of derangement.

NOPE. Derangement is conf!scum based on above interactions.

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Why do you think the day vig is on the scum team?

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Titus,

Derangement agrees with or mirrors Flubbers thoughts in posts #27, #45,

Flubber tries to push Drixx mislynch while Derangement (even after questioning from Bins) continues to push mcmenno. Both flubber and derangement then start pushing Drixx hard in several posts. And they post one after the other or close to each other as well.

Flubber defends Derangement against Ricastle's vote in #137. He then in #141 and #146 and #149 tries to push Ricastle off voting derangement to voting me. Why? Then Derangement soft pushes Ricastle to the same end in #152. Oh and flubber chimes in to agree with derangement in #154, #159, and #160.

#175 - Some town BAMF kills Flubber for his obvious scumbagness. BOOM.

Derangement #183 - reaction to Flubber vig killed, the person he was working closely with\mirroring is "Insidious.Also, good riddance." Fake.

Post #185 - oddmusic suddenly stops lurking and enters the game, starts by commenting on the Flubber kill with less then enthusiasm and then FOS'es derangement without voting him. Yes, 182 is terrible and scummy and oddmusica and derangement are scumbuddies.

And then of course, shos pops in to make several posts in support of derangement.

NOPE. Derangement is conf!scum based on above interactions.

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Sorry, Titus I already read your slot as scum. You might think you can save it but I doubt it highly.

Ricastle, the only thing you need to explain is that weird post where you assumed the day vig was scum and the unlynchable as well. Why?

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Oh look, you're doing exactly what scum Titus would do.

I refuse to engage in questions with a slot that I've already noted is obviously scum and because you have a tendency to tunnel to distract from your scumminess. The "Sweety" itself was hint to me that you were being manipulative. It doesn't work anymore. You are scum, I already know that.

OMGUS and NOU and not well done either.

Titus is scum clearly.

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Now that we've sorted that shos is anti-town at least in play. Let's move onto the next most viable lynch.

Has town read my case on Flubber\Derangement? Is it clear as day? I'd bet my game life on Derangement slot and now Titus being scum.

Titus and I have a history, it usually involved her manipulating me into doing her scum bidding but I've gotten over it.

This is her scum game, based on the entry alone.

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Bins, You could look in my Wiki at my meta if you wanted. I usually will suspect scum accurately but have a harder time getting them lynched.

Shos has been playing bizarrely, I'm not sure what to make of that.

Titus is scum. She pulled a NOU out of nowhere and voted me without reading the game or realizing her slot already scummed it up.

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A NOU is when someone votes you in response to you reading them as scum. It's usually a scum tactic.

Titus, I already built a strong case on your slot. I already know how you play. Your wagons question is pointless and irrelevant. Also you're caught in your first lie. Either you read the game and my case below and are ignoring it on purpose or you are lying about reading the game.

Titus,

Derangement agrees with or mirrors Flubbers thoughts in posts #27, #45,

Flubber tries to push Drixx mislynch while Derangement (even after questioning from Bins) continues to push mcmenno. Both flubber and derangement then start pushing Drixx hard in several posts. And they post one after the other or close to each other as well.

Flubber defends Derangement against Ricastle's vote in #137. He then in #141 and #146 and #149 tries to push Ricastle off voting derangement to voting me. Why? Then Derangement soft pushes Ricastle to the same end in #152. Oh and flubber chimes in to agree with derangement in #154, #159, and #160.

#175 - Some town BAMF kills Flubber for his obvious scumbagness. BOOM.

Derangement #183 - reaction to Flubber vig killed, the person he was working closely with\mirroring is "Insidious.Also, good riddance." Fake.

Post #185 - oddmusic suddenly stops lurking and enters the game, starts by commenting on the Flubber kill with less then enthusiasm and then FOS'es derangement without voting him. Yes, 182 is terrible and scummy and oddmusica and derangement are scumbuddies.

And then of course, shos pops in to make several posts in support of derangement.

NOPE. Derangement is conf!scum based on above interactions.

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If you read the game, Titus you would know why I was on which wagon at which point. So therefore, you're again lying and misrepresenting.

Here's the wagon data:

McMenno: Jeanne11, Flubbernugget, Derangement, elusive
Derangement: McMenno, Ricastle, Bellaphant, elusive
shos: Bellaphant, Ricastle, McMenno, elusive, Wanderer-nl
shos: Bellaphant, McMenno, Wanderer-nl, shos, drixx
shos: Bellaphant, Wanderer-nl, drixx, elusive, jeanne


Guess who else is also on every major wagon except one (like me).

Titus' leading question is also horrible, to Bellaphant, all someone has to do is stalk my topics to know how I feel about Titus. Therefore, that's another dirty scum tactic.

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What vendetta could I possibly have? Before you replaced in I already had a strong read on your slot and you did nothing to change it.

In fact what happened is you saw my votes on Derangement and my case and panicked and started this up again. I'm not playing your subpar tunneling game, its useless and harms town. Derangement played to classic noob scum and as soon as he was voted disappeared which is a shitty thing to do.

My read on oddmusic as I stated was based on meta as well but less sure. I was hoping to question them but they disappeared. I have a better chance of working with ARS then you because you started muckracking as soon as you entered so yes Titus is scum.

Surprised that I'm no longer doing as you want? My town game has gotten a lot better, check my Wiki.

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Stop lying, Titus. I don't rolefish that's not how I play nor is it my strength. The fact that you're trying every dirty tactic to save yourself at this point makes it clear you are scum. Town Titus doesn't act like this.

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Disgusting, really.

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ARS, I already had a strong read on Derangement based on the scummy things he did. My read on Titus is based on her trying to manipulate me and then engaging in muckracking filth, blatantly lying and the massive NOU. He whole entrance into this game is crap.

As I stated in thread, oddmusic hadn't posted much so there was room to question that read. Don't twist my words or at least read them.

I already crumbed my role, I'm the towniest town to town the town in this game.

Shos wants to be lynched and wants to determine who hammers him. I'm fine with this, whoever he chooses hammers. He was going to get back to me on some things. He also has hinted multiple things such as unlynchable so supersaint is not set in stone unless he states so.

Jeanne11 claimed her role and demanded that we lynch someone because she didn't trust her choice.

Titus, I don't want to engage you with you because of the shit you already pulled with the misreps, selective logic. I've just seen your town game and I feel like I can read you well enough to know this isn't your town game. You should know better too but obviously your wincon isn't town.

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No one who is town will quick lynch me because that is the most anti-town thing you could do.

ARS, are you even reading my posts? I have a case on the slot. It was newb scum.

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The roles are not that complicated, there's a role involving a stripper pole so yeah. Wtf is more likely then not. However I could believe that shooter didn't claim because of being two.shot. Phone posting sue to memorial weekend plans but will be following.

ARS I find it weird that you claim no scum reads but posited quick lynching me or voting Titus. Also meta is a good tool so what was that about?

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Titus, are you claiming that your role is "ika"?

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Any role with "ika" in it will have some anti-town element. Actually we discussed a game before all the stuff went down on dlp and the self-named role has an anti-town impact so I'm wondering about that now.

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Shos, I just read a finished game with you and ETL and Herself hydra. Why are you not seeing scum Titus? You defended that slot before she came in and I find it odd that you're willing to work with her now.

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Also Jeanne's stated role name is Judge.

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Easy there, shos. ARS is quite keen and as town she has good senses. Also I'll cut you.

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*he

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Titus, oddmusic was replaced by ARS.

Wanderer, I responded to your points already. oddmusic was a soft scum read and I said I wanted to interrogate them more because I had played with them. They disappeared, therefore I could only posit a read. ARS replaced oddmusic. I know ARS pretty well too so yes I think I can work with him.

The Derangement slot is what I think of as noob scum. If Titus is not faking her "ika" claim then her role may still be anti-town. We'll find out more after the night.

I know and adore Titus. I know her scum and her town game. She tunneled the fuck out of me in two games, one as town and one as scum (I was town in both) and in another game I followed her scum Pied Piper routine until I snapped out of it. So town Titus is not dangerous but scum Titus is because she loves playing scum and thrives as it vs. town she's more abrasive and often gets mislynched.

Right now I'm dealing with her at distance because I don't want to get sucked into another Titus tunnel that goes on for hundreds of posts.

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Shos, Titus is prob scum. This is her smooth, silky scum meta. This her being like ETL in that Mollie game.

Please don't fall into her trap. Whatever your role is, think carefully of who you choose.

If you have a choice then look at the game, meta if you need to and choose wisely.

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Sorry out and about on a Memorial day picnic thing so phone posting, what did I miss?

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Brantz,

It's not AtE or you aren't reading. I've been in at least two games with Titus where she has tunneled me relentlessly for literally HUNDREDS of posts. I'm trying this new thing where I don't get into tunnels because it wastes town time and distracts from scumhunting. She's trying to draw me in with

blatant misreps and nonsense

. It doesn't work anymore.

Her "sweety" to me was her scum calling card. Town Titus treats me quite differently and doesn't try to buddy me.

Titus already linked to her serial killer game on that site and that linking of that game confuses me, she was the SK in that game so

I also agree that Titus' power seems overkill to me. Town already has my role plus a day vig (how would scum shoot Flubber? in what situation? the only one possible is mafia traitor but that seems stretching plausibility).

Ricastle are you town?

Jeanne11, what are your thoughts?

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Nope, I agree with ARS. Why not 705?

The one you chose is convenient because you can fudge it easily.

Titus, my town game and scum game are miles apart. I think you of all people know that so you came in here with some massive BS that has nothing to do with my playstyle. So yeah that's not a misrep at all, that's me saying fuck off.

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My alignment is town. So your attempt to figure me out is fake because my alignment is town.

McMenno - you believe him. McMenno has an interesting history. Yeah, Titus is being weird as hell.

ARS, I can take care of Titus tonight or is there something else you're thinking of?

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Titus, how about you describe how any of this fits my scum meta? I just want to see how far you are willing to BS.

ARS< okay. I don't expect to live long in this game due to fun times role but my role is something lovely even if short.

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Anyone else would be very random? I mean that's what Titus is good at - mucking up things.

Outside of her I don't like: shos, McMenno

So one of those three

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Do you have a preference? If you want to take her, I'll do one of shos or mcmenno. That'll help clear somethings up next day for town regardless of my death or not.

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Now you can sensor wagon in post #705 or this:

shos: Wanderer-nl, drixx, Ricastle, elusive, jeanne, titus, bins

We get far more info from this wagon and I can confirm for at least 1-2 slots whether your telling the truth or not.

K, ARS. I'll get one of the others.

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ARS already proved she could delete and get a post replaced 275. SO therefore, shos why aren't you reading? Also in that game I quoted hated was a town role so why are you suspicious of it now?

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Who do you think are newbies? Also you avoid talking about the ETL + Mollie game. So I wonder why?

Wanderer, I had very strong feelings about the Derangement slot. Is it possible Titus is town? Miniscule, but her game right now is bad and there is no reason for town Titus to blatantly misrep. Therefore, when I see a slot that I already had 90% belief was scum then be replaced by a player I know well, refuse to talk about meta, attack me on sight with weak reasoning, my belief is only confirmed.

Shos, Bins, Wanderer, Ricastle, Bella:
Do you agree that Titus should "sensor" post #705 if that is indeed her ability?

Does anyone else have a player name as a role? Since I don't, I'm wondering about that claim.

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My role has a flavour name too, its kind of funny.

Wanderer, which wagon? Why wouldn't a large wagon where we get numbers to the ratio in this game be better?

Also not sure about the assumption of forming a town block with a smaller wagon, that doesn't have to be the case. I can see the smaller wagon point but I'd rather someone else other then Titus, Shos choose it.

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We are no lynching so Jeanne11 makes the choice? And what about the gladiate? It's like 100 things in the air with this game and I want to clearly follow up with some.

Drixx, do you have any reads? I'm trying to think of an object or power that you could give that would be pro-town. Something like a Oracle that only screens alignment? So if the person who had it was mafia it wouldn't benefit them because they already know their own alignment but town could use it to clear people?

Do you get to write the description of the item and what it can do? This sounds like an inventor role but I'm not sure what the limits are.

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Ok off the top of my head:
1. An object that converts the target into a town alignment (is it pushing to try to get a town PR out of this?)
2. An object that allows the player to "screen" a player for alignment (and it can be used 10x)
3. An object that allows the player to bring back a player from the dead but the player's alignment will be town

More conventional things include: bulletproof vests, etc.

Once you've figure out the effect of the object or its ability then we can gussy up the flavor.

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I mean we can basically steal from Star Trek, STar Wars and all those other fun movies or even Harry Potter

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That's a good list, I'd take out the items that could be misused in the wrong hands. A scanner that public ally reveals alignment would be awesome.

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Drixx, where are you voting right now?

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Oh like a post lie detector and have everyone post their alignment? Or something else?

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Last VC only bins and brantz are on wanderer. I don't like brantz, he's actively lurked for most of the game. So idk.

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I remember his VLA notices more then any content.

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@BRantz: unvote me. I have an investigative (informative) role. If you have a scumread on me, add it so I can defend, if not, then do no lynch.

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My role is Chairman, at night I can choose a person and keep them in a room.

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Bins, what I find odd about Brantz is how often your name comes up and how much he soft defends you and ignores Wanderer's claim.

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My role and alignment is town. It's based on a game Ika Modded by the same name.

You are not this subpar at mafia, are you?

[elusive]

I already know my role pretty well and have clarified what I can or can't do from ika. So why don't you tell me what you're thinking.

It's a town role.

[elusive]

I thought that but I asked ika recently and he said its a "passive ability" so I'm not sure exactly what it can or can't do. He told me to look at the Micro game its based on but I didn't find it in the first 2-3 pages of his topics.

[elusive]

Well he made it town here. I'm not sure then the utility of the role then because first it was I got to keep a person in a room so that made me think Jailor but its basically nothing.

Remember, Titus that the roles and alignment were randomized.

[elusive]

Not really? Let me ask to clarify but it seems like I just keep a person in a room for a night and can talk to them, that's all.

[elusive]

Can you explain my role?

It does not jailkeep or roleblock or prevent the player from being targeted. Confirming?

Can I, as Titus claims, add multiple people to the "room" and create a neighborhood?

[elusive]

What is the point of the last part? I have no clue?

I asked ika to clarify, let's see what he says. It doesn't seem like that's possible from what my role PM says.

[elusive]

TITUS, are you kidding me? Guess what's awesome about a Wiki, the IP address of anyone who edits it is recorded. So try not act like a crazy person.

[elusive]

ARS, I have no clue what you're talking about. I pulled no emotions with you nor do I plan to do so.

Apparently, I can get a straight answer from the mod about what my role does or doesn't do. SO all I know is just one person in a room, no neighbors etc.

[elusive]

@Elusive, look at the Chairman mafia game I provided. That's what your role does.

The mod needs to tell me what my role does. So far all I know is its a passive ability that allows me to put one person in a room at night. Nothing else.

[elusive]

VOTE: Bins

[elusive]

ARS, its always a struggle to understand you.

Why did you do all those theatrics and VC nukes if you thought TItus was scum? WHy are you certain she's town now? What the what?

[elusive]

ARS is off the wall. Like completely mad.

Titus has no results to report?

FLUBBER, the PROVEN SCUM, tried to get RICASTLE to vote me and wanted to move a wagon on me. He only hesitated because I've played with flubber and don't go down easy as town.

There could be one mafia scum and multiple third parties.

I'll stand with me previous that one of derangement\odd music are scum.

Considering ARS ability messing with Titus, they are probably opposite alignment.

ARS at least try to make sense. Your gambits are pointless and lies.

Shos did someone try to kill you?

Drixx what did you invent and who did you give it to?

[elusive]

Town; eliminate all players who can not win with town
Mafia: eliminate all players who can not win with you
3rd party scum: live long enough to see town lose
Other 3rd partie(s): will only be known to them

Shos, in this type of game the above could mean 1-2 mafia, 1-2 3rd part who are aligned against town, and other 3rd parties who have their own alignments.

So ARS trying to make it seem like there are 3 mafia is HAVING TROUBLE WITH MATH.

[elusive]

ARS, I'm town. My role PM says so.

You can't really 1 vs. 1 me with bad logic.

As shos pointed out it doesn't say there are 3 MAFIA. 3p = Third party. I think, but you could clarify with the Mod in a public question if you were so inclined towards clarity.

Shos, my thoughts are why wouldn't Ric vote me if Flubber was his scum buddy?

[elusive]

Okay, reread that "There are exactly 4 scums (3p team and one 3rd party)"

Ok so there is a 3 person team, I thought p meant party. And one 3rd party scum who is aligned with them but not aware of their identity but anti town alignment.

[elusive]

ARS is an alt for someone who does know this site meta and has played with ika and Titus and me before.

[elusive]

What did Ricastle mass claim?

[elusive]

ARS, what did Drixx give you and why aren't you using it if it was the scanner thing?

Drixx and Titus need to chime in.

[elusive]

Scum would only shoot themselves in dire circumstances and would try to town cred out of it which didn't happen here.

Shos I have no scum tactics, I am vla but checking on my phone so I missed some things.

If one of are or rivastle is scum who is the third team member?

[elusive]

@Mod, replacing out.