Mini 1677 - Ori and the Blind Forest Mafia - Forest Revived

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 5:49 am

In post 1046, Plum wrote:
In post 1044, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1043, Plum wrote:MS, if there are no real baddies in the source story besides one who does good in the end and whom you're writing off as Town because of, not despite flavor, why are you surprised that the traditional sample VT PM isn't a baddie and is Town?

What do you mean by that? I don't understand.

My theory is that the scum's flavor are side characters that nobody remembers.

Is there something that I'm not being clear about?

You were like 'if flavor doesn't matter, why does the VT PM correspond to a good character'? But if none of the characters are real baddies, how could it be otherwise?

Also your so-called theory sucks and you should try to accept that.

By the way, all 3 players in the neighborhood had mod-confirmed flavor.

Kuro and Ori in the same neighborhood. Was obviously a blatant attempt to stir up WIFOM to make the game "more exciting".

The only argument that can be made for my Ori claim being scum is "he could be fakeclaiming ori! ori isn't actually in the game!"

But that's demolished by the fact that my Ori claim is mod-confirmed.

So.

I am conftown.

Seriously. Lynch. Mollie.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 5:50 am

In post 1048, Frogging Mollie wrote:
In post 1044, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1043, Plum wrote:MS, if there are no real baddies in the source story besides one who does good in the end and whom you're writing off as Town because of, not despite flavor, why are you surprised that the traditional sample VT PM isn't a baddie and is Town?

What do you mean by that? I don't understand.

My theory is that the scum's flavor are side characters that nobody remembers.

Is there something that I'm not being clear about?

in other words
town are probably gonna be trees
.

Ika's flavor was Nir. Who the fuck is nir? A google search returned bad results.

See what I mean?

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:16 am

In post 1053, Plum wrote:Haha, I've made games that have randomized character names going on, that have scumteams that conform to alignments that aren't present in the source material, whatever you like, it's been done before. I trust the Mod's word that flavor is irrelevant over you repeating over and over that you're confirmed Town. Which you aren't.

Fine, I'm not actually confirmed town. But my role PM says so.

Anyway, why do you refuse to vote frogmollie? What exactly makes you think that slot is town?

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:16 am

In post 1054, dragonspawn wrote:VOTE: metal

Don't like the assertion that he is confirmed town by the mod. It's totally scummy to assert that day 1 for no reason.

Why is calling myself town scummy? Also, i have a number of reasons, so you're wrong.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:29 am

In post 1058, Frogging Mollie wrote:there was once this game that i was in where town did not lynch a player fakeclaimed cop and then later fakeclaimed lyncher. do you know how stupid town was? they lynched the lyncher's target. there was no lyncher. the fakeclaimer was grpscum. I had been trying to get the fakeclaimer lynched after their very first post. and no, it was not a lucky guess.

who were incredibly strong players and town lost and wondered why. <------ this happened in a game I was in.

this game totally reminds me of that.

like, I have no words for what metal is doing and you guys are letting him get away with it.

VOTE: metal

i love your stories they are really cool

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:33 am

In post 1063, Plum wrote:
In post 1056, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1053, Plum wrote:Haha, I've made games that have randomized character names going on, that have scumteams that conform to alignments that aren't present in the source material, whatever you like, it's been done before. I trust the Mod's word that flavor is irrelevant over you repeating over and over that you're confirmed Town. Which you aren't.

Fine, I'm not actually confirmed town. But my role PM says so.

Anyway, why do you refuse to vote frogmollie? What exactly makes you think that slot is town?

They've got more going for them than you do.

Then explain it.

Because right now there is just "mollie is town because she looks town"

"sonic is scum because mollie says so"

your adamant refusal to vote mollie is unfounded and not logical in the slightest.

what makes you townread them? have they been scumhunting, giving reads, contributing to the gamestate...?

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:40 am

hey mollie have u ever responded to this???

In post 576, Grib wrote:
In post 547, Grib wrote:
You think he's playing badly on purpose in order to get away with this kind of play as scum in the future?

I want you to go through [8 of] his posts and really spell it out for me. I'm not just going to take your word for it, as much as I'd like to. If he's such obvious scum, this shouldn't be a challenge.

[...]

I'm telling you exactly what I think I need to see in order to have a better chance at believing your case.

Do you see 504? Do something like that. It is literally that easy. Pretty please. Take a deep breath and humor me.

I am WELL AWARE that you and Sonic have PLAYED TOGETHER A LOT and your READ ON HIM is probably LEAGUES MORE ACCURATE than mine, but if you WANT ME TO VOTE WITH YOU it is YOUR JOB to CONVINCE ME and REFUTE MY REASONING for finding him town.

I'm not yelling at you, it's just easier to shift than italicize.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:40 am

In post 1065, Yukari wrote:If metal gets to L-1 we intend to hammer. We don't care much for chittychat at this point, jus wanna start seein some flips so we can get some real info to work with.

you need to shoot mollie after i die. pinky promise.

also, i seriously fucking hope scum dont have a roleblocker or mollie is mafia bp. lol.

just lynch her tomorrow and i am okay

mollie is quite strong

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:47 am

In post 1068, Yukari wrote:
In post 1067, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 1065, Yukari wrote:If metal gets to L-1 we intend to hammer. We don't care much for chittychat at this point, jus wanna start seein some flips so we can get some real info to work with.

you need to shoot mollie after i die. pinky promise.

also, i seriously fucking hope scum dont have a roleblocker or mollie is mafia bp. lol.

just lynch her tomorrow and i am okay

mollie is quite strong

If you flip town and mollie survives the night, something is wrong and mollie should be lynched D-2.

<3

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:47 am

i will self vote at l-2

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:54 am

In post 1072, Frogging Mollie wrote:he is fucking blatant lying. There doesn't have to be a confirmed vig in the game. Because scum could have been drawn from pool 1 or pool 4 (2 shot mafia rolecop). This is Metal poorly covering for Yukari's dumb claim.

Whatever pools the setup drew from will not affect the fixed roles that are "not specified" in the setup.

If the pool was 2 or 4, and they drew Mafia BP, then what? The scum get a mafia goon instead?

I'm going to read the first page again so that i wont look like an idiot

not just because you're calling me one for unsubstantiated reasons

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 6:58 am

In post 2, Ankamius wrote:a) One role from each pool will be randomly chosen. If there are multiples of a role, each pool will be rerolled.
b) Exactly three pools will roll a town role and exactly one will roll a mafia role.
c) This is not the extent of the set-up. There will be roles that are not explicitly stated here.

The moderator will take 4 roles from the 4 pools, and get 3 town roles and get 1 mafia role.

so there is a 1/2 possibility that there is a mafia BP in the game, correct me if I'm wrong

so. please explain to me how i'm a fucking idiot when i have basic comprehension skills. please prove me wrong by pointing the flaw in my reading comprehension.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:00 am

btw

Occam's razor says that frogmollie is scum for tunnelling me for 43 pages, being blatantly wrong despite 2 other players 9pieguy and zzzx) vouching that i'm strong town, having 0 reads outside of me/wni/andy for 42 pages, 0 scumhunting outside of the tunnel vision, and failing to back up her scumread on me with evidence even after multiple requests.

please lynch mollie today.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:07 am

In post 1076, Frogging Mollie wrote:
In post 1031, Metal Sonic wrote:
It was obvious that there was a vig in the game, because

Pool 2:
4) Mafia Bulletproof

Pool 3:
4) Mafia Bulletproof

There would be a confirmed vig in the game,
because mafia needed a bulletproof
.

Because mafia needed a bulletproof? BECAUSE MAFIA NEEDED A BULLETPROOF?

But mafia doesn't need a bulletproof. They could have a rolecop instead (from pools 1 or 4). You cherry pick pools 2 and 3 for what reason? There doesn't have to be a mafia bulletproof. at all.

read the first page again god damn it.

2 possibilities for the scum's randomised role: rolecop or bulletproof

my reading comprehension says that the roles that are not in the pools are fixed. aka independent of whatever randomisation goes on in the pools.

so.

whatever the pools roll do not affect the pre-set roles.

so.

if the pools rolled a mafia bulletproof, does he become a mafia goon?

i mean, its all and well if there was mafia rolecop. but whatever is rolled in the pools is independent of the preset roles?

am i wrong? this is a case of reading skills here. nothing up with alignment.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:08 am

In post 1077, Plum wrote:If you are Town, you've poisoned the game several times in succession for no fucking reason and are maintaining an attitude that is counterproductive at best.

this is all molliescum's fault... i tell you...

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:11 am

In post 1080, Plum wrote:The things I'm thinking about aren't things you can blame on Frogmollie either way. And you're still refusing to answer that question.

what question?

mollie has refused to answer grib's huge ass bold red font question

i missed a tiny question, is that illegal?

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:17 am

jesus christ. that was in tiny print, i missed it, i'm so sorry!

what changed was that i was getting townreads on some other people, so you dropped on my list due to relativity. and because i could see you as possible partners with yukari, i made those comments.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:22 am

what do you want me to do about that?

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:22 am

In post 1086, Yukari wrote:Rofl, mollie is obvscum and that last post was really horrible.. so horrible we don't even know where to start, so we gonna eat first. Please lynch mollie over ms. Obvscum is obvscum kthanx

they think that you and me are scum

they also think that wni is scum

we are the only 3 pple on her wagon. seems like they are better honeypotters than us eh!

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:42 am

In post 1083, Plum wrote:
In post 707, Plum wrote:
MS

Spoiler: Every time you've mentioned or interacted with me this game
In post 43, Metal Sonic wrote:Hello Plum!

Andrius seems very excited about you being in the game. I don't know you at all, but I hope you are as fun as he says.

I'm going to sort you, of course, but mostly I'll fall back to his read on you.

That's my plan!

In post 55, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 54, Plum wrote:MS, care to clarify your cryptic statement to WNI?

No.

In post 166, Metal Sonic wrote:on phone now as usual so can't respond to stuff

singer town
Andy town
Ika town
Pieguy town
Elusive town
Grib leaning town
Plum leaning town
Frogging leaning town
Hydrangea null
Bookitty leaning scum
Yukari scum

In post 397, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 391, ika wrote:
In post 390, Metal Sonic wrote:I am here but I don't think you want to talk to me

Ill talk to you as long as its not about fucking molie. cus ill state right now, you are do drop her untill i sort her myself

how about this, talk to me about andy, yukari, plume, booitty, hydra

if you cast mollie is bad light about trying to lynch you after she unvoted i will move my damn vote back

Andy is Mia. I want to see his comments about all this

Yukari is a scummyscumfuck. I looked at their meta already but I can only post full length on com. Just simply their town play is more like able and confused about who is town or scum. Here they seem like faking confusion about lame stuff like the setup. They also have been doing fuck all the whole game except tunnel on me. No reads in their ISO. In their town games they have townreads. No townreads over here. They are scum basically

Bookitty is my 2nd top scumread. Their 2nd post just hit my scumdar quite bad but I don't know how to explain it. And her recent posts are 0 content so not fantastic.

I like hydra for Sheeping me on yukari so my answer is probably biased so don't ask me. Ps: I think they are town

In post 476, Metal Sonic wrote:I agree with plum. I thought that they were partners with you. Was planning to powerlynched them after you flipped scum. Fine.

In post 483, Metal Sonic wrote:Unless andrius is scum with plum.

I still think you are scum though :/

Just because you unvoted me does not mean I must townread you!

In post 485, Metal Sonic wrote:Tinfoil theory is Andy/plum/bookitty

Just in case. This can be seen when I am dead with spoilers and groan about how I wish I followed this later

My last post in the thread before I went V/LA was #313. Prior to that, you had most recently listed me as 'leaning town'. From after I went V/LA, you first ignored me and only me among a list of five players ika asked you to talk to him about. Then you agreed with your former hard-scumread Yukari that I was scummy, going so far as to claim you were planning on power-lynching me 'after [Yukari] flipped scum'. So. What the fuck
changed
, eh?

In post 1077, Plum wrote:You never answered what changed between your initial Townread of me and saying you thought I was so scummy you wanted to powerlynch me after Yukari. Which happened while I was still V/LA. That seems a lot more salient, but who cares?

hey plum

why do you find it so angst that I did not answer a tiny question that you hid at the back of a paragraph that was part of a huge wallpost? which was to explain my scumread on you

yet when mollie ignored grib's extremely large red bold text font question. to explain a scumread on me. you don't call her out?

even if you think that they are town, thats far beyond extreme hypocrisy.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:53 am

dude. i said there's guaranteed to be a vig. not a bulletproof!!

because a bulletproof is apossible role that the scum get, it must be beneficial

and a bulletproof is only beneficial if there is a vig in the game

ergo, a vig is necessitated.

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:54 am

In post 1091, Frogging Mollie wrote:guaranteed to be a bulletproof

confirmed vig

okay this is a very serious reading comprehension issue!

its so sesrious that i hope its not you misrepping me because that is just low

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:58 am

In post 1094, Frogging Mollie wrote:Derp my bad. Because it's possible there is a bulletproof, there must be a vig.

Ok, got it.

you see, we can get along just fine <3

when talking about non alignment indicative stuff and with no agenda.

sigh. look at what this game has done. mollie

Metal Sonic · Thu May 28, 2015 7:59 am

In post 1095, Frogging Mollie wrote:Now i feel dumb. Either way. Yukari is rolecop.

i am thoroughly not convinced.

maybe if mollie wasnt humpbanging me since page 2 for no apparent reason with an extreme inability to justify her points, i would still be on yukari right now

Metal Sonic · Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:02 pm

gg town

thanks for modding Ank! you were great!

Metal Sonic · Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:26 pm

scum had no chance. if we had more synergy d1 and mollie didnt play against her win con it would have been a faster and cleaner win. i was right about bookitty from the start. from there we could break down the scumteam.

gg all

frogger you are great. really brilliant. i see that you have been playing more games on-site, and you're doing well in most of them (even though you lost some). hope to see you play with us more some time

Metal Sonic · Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:15 am

In post 2037, Plum wrote:Also, Metal Sonic, I was right that your setup speculation was wrong and that your insistence on it was BS. The Mod did randomize alignment/power to character name. Ori could have been a Mafia Goon Neighbor in this game. So next time the Mod says that flavor is irrelevant, don't engage in BS speculation that someone has to be Town or scum because of a rolename.

Yup!!!!!

Egg on my face

Ironically quite a large number of the roles rolled according to my theory

except for sein or something (?) (0 flavor knowledge sorry!!!)

@mollie you didn't reply me so I took it as a "no I don't care and I hate you and I don't want to sort shit out with you" so i was upset and began the trashing. which was not unjustified

Metal Sonic · Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:42 am

In post 2048, Plum wrote:Dude, if you state at the outset that you don't plan on apologizing because you don't think you did anything wrong, what do you really expect? Seriously.

In post 2049, ika wrote:
In post 2047, Metal Sonic wrote:@mollie you didn't reply me so I took it as a "no I don't care and I hate you and I don't want to sort shit out with you" so i was upset and began the trashing. which was not unjustified

but going overboard on AtE and claiming to contact 5 listmods and basicly bringing an outside influence to the game is?

Whoa! She AtEd and brought oog influences first!

I already acknowledged the replacing thing, and I even knew that was scummy as fuck after I posted it. But then she bashed me 3 fold on how I was as a player without even knowing what was going on!

Now that is beyond acceptable. If you think that "replacing out for tactical reason" is wrong, that's fair for you. But offensive? Nuh uh. None of what I have done while I was alive justified any response that I got from Mollie.

Metal Sonic · Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:43 pm

#597 summarized everything nicely up till that point. And you continued after that. For more than 600 more

I really am not interested to trawl through your ISO to play the "quote X for me" game.

you didn't respond to my reach out when I PMed you. I think that was the last straw.

Metal Sonic · Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:44 pm

In post 2052, Plum wrote:I'm just saying, in general, if you really want a reconciliation, don't start off by saying that you don't plan to apologize and don't think you did anything wrong. Even if you think the other party was more in the wrong, or by far more in the wrong. It's just counterproductive to your stated goal.

Noted, thanks plum. I recognize it was a mistake to include that line, should have omitted it entirely