Mini 1696: SPACE DANDY MAFIA, GAME OVER


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Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:30 am

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Im a dandy guy, in space!
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:38 am

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Aren't all votes serious?

VOTE: Drama Queens

Your name is very fitting btw.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:45 am

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Just go with the flow baby.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:59 am

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Space Dandy is a good show. Too bad it only ran for two seasons ;(
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Post Post #54 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:38 pm

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I am the bringer of fire!

Also known as the True Mvp! I come from the wayward place of SC2Mafia where everyone is a special role, except here where I feel so weak trying to figure stuff out.

Won't you adopt me and hold me? I just need a hug.

End of silliness, Drama Queens voted me and I responded kindly. You call me rude but I was just pointing out how you were creating drama and that your name applies! I am not rude, you are!
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Post Post #76 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:43 pm

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I agreee Drama Queens behaviour is very suspicious, calls me a "special person" but doesn't elaborate on that. I don't know Queens typical playstyle so it could be nothing. Going to keep my vote on Queen for time being though, nothing else is jumping out at me right now.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:26 pm

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In post 110, Alchemist21 wrote:@Skullduggery, yeah, I see your point. I was exploring possibilities because the initial excitment just seemed off to me, but now I think the first-time hydra reason is plausible and more likely. The Dr Gel read was because DQ said they wanted something from Firebringer, who was dropping some quotes from Space Dandy. In the show Dr. Gel was always chasing after Space Dandy, so I thought there may be a connection there. In hindsight, it wouldn't make sense because for them to hint like they did as scum, they'd have to know the show to know Dandy's phrases, but at the same time not know enough to know Dr. Gel is the bad guy (which is made obvious by the first episode). Also, the fact that even the other head isn't sure what's going on is telling me I'm wrong on that anyway.
You watch the whole show? I don't want to spoil it but yeah, watch up until the end.


In post 108, Alchemist21 wrote:@Drama Queen, It's ok. How do I tell your heads apart? I think I'll need to be able to tell you two apart in this game.

I am the normal one. She is the one insisting theres a connection between us. Which I find very odd. I find her behavior suspicious in general.

In post 105, Alchemist21 wrote:I didn't realize both heads were posting now, and I completely missed one head not even knowing what the other head is talking about wrt firebringer, so I'll leave it alone for now.

UNVOTE:

We aren't one person, like what are you talking about? She keeps trying to say we are like one person or something, but we aren't.
Spoiler: We are Neighbors.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:40 pm

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Changing vote after talking to neighbor a bit.

VOTE: BP

I don't think he is scum, ill analyze him more later. Going to give more reads on people later. Right now I am off to bed.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:32 pm

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Umm yeah, I didn't even know I was in neighberhood, I didn't read full role card lol. Host had to pm me to remind me.

Also I didn't want to reveal but I think its better so that town isn't focused so much on us, (need more time for me to figure out if drama queen is scum) to look for more viable targets.

As I just posted in the Neighborhood chat, I think alchemist is trying very hard to be townie and that is suspicious to me.

I don't have enough suspicion on you yet to vote on you.

I want to hear more from BP he sounds like he is giving just basic answers to questions.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:56 pm

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We have way too many votes on way too many people. It doesn't apply any pressure if its spread out like this.
Some questions I have right now.
BP why are you voting Klingoncelt? Why does he appear scum to you?

Klingoncelt, Yukari. Why are both of you refraining from voting, do any of you have reads yet? What do you think so far?
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Post Post #246 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:31 am

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In post 242, Klingoncelt wrote:I just voted for Zakk, because he gave the lamest stock/fluff reads ever on my posts followed by a bad vote.

I'm Town, just so ya know.

You are town really? lol, would you tell us if you weren't :?:
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Post Post #301 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:33 pm

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Okay why do people think Pokerface and Klingoncelt are scum?

I haven't found any good enough evidence for either of them. Klingoncelt isn't that active and Pokerface has weird excuses for not responding.

Going to hold off, going to read through the posts again and give my analysis.

VOTE: UNVOTE
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Post Post #302 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:49 pm

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Yukari-Active scumhunting, getting reads on everyone. Being very active in game. I think he is most pro town in this game so far. I don’t think he is just scum appearing pro town though, just gut feeling on that. Strong Town Read

Alchemist-I posted before on my thoughts on him, I think he is scum trying to appear town. Moderate Mafia Read

Zakk-votes for klingoncelt for reasons that seems good. The fact he didn’t post till four pages in and only because he had a vote on him. Weak Mafia Read

BP-He hasn’t given much detail into his thoughts I think, he could be keeping most of it for later as town, not sure on him totally. Most of his recent posts are complete fluff. Weak Town read

Heartless-Jumps on Pokerface wagon pretty quick, he thinks Xtomx is a good vote too, which I don’t necessarily disagree with. Weak Mafia Read

Xtomx-rarely posts, doesn’t put much detail into them. Appears like active lurking. Strong Mafia Read

Oversoul-Appears to be tunneling on Pokerface, his reasons aren’t elaborated on, but hey I have done this strategy as town before so I am not going to go with other people saying that he is executioner. Weak Town Read

Drama Queen- I still have suspicions on her, I don’t think it’s likely both me and her are town. So I think I have good reason to distrust her. Weak Mafia Read

Klingoncelt-Doesn’t post much, he justifies his vote though when I asked him. I see why people voted him, but I don’t think he is scum yet. Weak Town Read

Pokerface-He doesn’t post a lot in the first few pages but I don’t think his posts are fluff either, he could just be not active town. Weak Town Read.

Elbirn-Not much thoughts on him, he hasn’t posted much and he doesn’t seem super active scumhunting, he asks a few questions but I don’t think he puts much pressure on them. Weak Mafia Read

Skullduggery-Not much thoughts on him, I think he is town. Just got that feeling. Weak Town Read.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:08 pm

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In post 303, Yukari wrote:
In post 302, Firebringer wrote:Drama Queen- I still have suspicions on her, I don’t think it’s likely both me and her are town. So I think I have good reason to distrust her. Weak Mafia Read

This just feels strange.
"I don’t think it’s likely both me and her are town."
The way you said this.. why? If she is town would that make you scum?

I just don't see why put a neighborhood together with two town, why not just have masons?

Also theres a chance we could both be Mafia. O_o

I think more likely 1 mafia 1 town. If you want to twist my words into supporting you thinking I am scum go ahead.

PEDIT: Because I told DQ was going to vote BP because I wanted more from him. Just because I think someone is possibly scum doesn't mean I don't think theres possibility that they might be voting on one of their allies. Due to WIFOM, if I was scum I would pressure my allies to create a good distance between us.
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Post Post #342 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:02 pm

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In post 324, zakk wrote:
In post 307, Yukari wrote:
In post 305, Firebringer wrote:[quote="In post 303, Yukar
In post 312, Yukari wrote:
In post 298, Yukari wrote:
In post 212, Firebringer wrote:Umm yeah, I didn't even know I was in neighberhood, I didn't read full role card lol. Host had to pm me to remind me.

Host?


Also:
In post 302, Firebringer wrote:Yukari-Active scumhunting, getting reads on everyone. Being very active in game. I think he is most pro town in this game so far. I don’t think he is just scum appearing pro town though, just gut feeling on that. Strong Town Read

This feels scummy to us. Unless you are familiar with our meta, we should be getting null to scum read. We can see ppl reading us as town, but "most pro town in this game so far" and "strong town read"? And cuz gut?

Yes we are scumhunting and getting reads, but we are curious what you think our reads are and how this all translates into us being "most pro town". This is all the more interesting to us because although we just posted our reads list, we have intentionally left out the reasoning behind things for now.

Plus, let us compare our reads lists to see how similar they are:

Oversoul - Cpl things pinged us the wrong way, but overall Town.
-Weak Town Read

Klingoncelt - Slight scum/bad vibes
-Weak Town Read

Heartless (Hydra; Antihero & TellTaleHeart) - Town
-Weak Mafia Read

zakk - Didn't care for the voting block thing, but overall Town
-Weak Mafia Read

Elbirn - Town
-Weak Mafia Read

PokerFace - Scum
-Weak Town Read.

Skullduggery - Null
-Weak Town Read

BP - Slight Town
-Weak Town read

Drama Queens (Hydra; Ms. Marangal & Tammy) - Slight Town
-Weak Mafia Read

Alchemist21 - Town
-Moderate Mafia Read

Xtoxm - Town
-Strong Mafia Read

Soo.. we agree on BP, and that is the only exact match. So what is it about our reads that you like? Also, going by postcount, alchemist and drama queens are more active than us but get scum-read. Why are we the most town?

Your post looks like try to buddy us. We don't understand your reasoning.
VOTE: Firebringer


I don't see how you Xtoxm as town, nothing he posts shows has given me anything.

Alchemist21 I don't think is town, I just get bad vibe on him. Gut feeling. (meaning no exact post)

DramaQueen because neighborhood I explained this already.

Skull looks enough town for me not to put much analysis on him.

Looking back on Heartless I was probably wrong about that one. Didn't jump on the train, actually started it. Unlikely mafia starting a train.

Oversoul we agree on too, but I just say he is "weak town"

I don't see how Pokerface and Klingoncelt are mafia can you give me reasons again?
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Post Post #356 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:30 am

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In post 354, BP wrote:*tick tock*

I'm gonna
unvote
.

It's too soon to hammerdown. I wanna hear from Klingon, and risking hammer w/out his word with more than a week til deadline is just dumb.

wait don't you need a vote tag for that?

I agree we should hold off on hammer, I think Pokerface is innocent.
Not voting him yet, unless he gives me reason to suspect him, which so far he hasn't.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:32 am

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Klingoncelt I am not as sure about but I still want him to defend himself. Right now on the fence and nothing has so far changed my mind.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:36 am

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Going to put my vote here for now:

VOTE: Xtoxm

He just seems most like scum to me.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:55 am

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In post 361, BP wrote:Shit, we didn't hammer Klingon by a second.

That was lucky.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:59 pm

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Just posting to say I am still alive, don't have much to say today.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:15 pm

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You guys take every post serious, its mind boggling. Even when you see later that I post "silliness aside"

You can't be serious 24/7 its too much work.
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Post Post #414 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:42 pm

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I think Klingoncelt is town, I don't see why you guys see him as evil.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:27 am

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WHy em I being called firebird? lol. When did this become a thing.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:52 am

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Why do I feel like Xtoxm only gave a reads list and became more active was because I voted him? Maybe its nothing, just a thought.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:48 pm

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We should get more out of PokerFace he hasn't been contributing much lately.

Pedit: No, Inappropriate.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:20 pm

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My reads are same as I last posted them. I haven't found anything to change my mind. You are still scum in my eyes.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:04 am

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In post 551, Xtoxm wrote:
I have too many town reads

Seems like what scum would do. Put almost everyone as town as to not make any enemies.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:18 am

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In post 556, zakk wrote:
In post 555, Firebringer wrote:
In post 551, Xtoxm wrote:
I have too many town reads

Seems like what scum would do. Put almost everyone as town as to not make any enemies.

That's like the opposite of what you're doing; so tell me, is that on purpose? (you having so many scum reads)

Not completely, but I do tend to see scum more than town.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:54 am

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In post 558, zakk wrote:okay that's fine.

what's your opinion on drama queens?

None of DQ posts have much weight too it in substance, I can't fish anything useful of it out. If she wasn't my neighbor I would just write off as Null. Seeing as how I doubt a TvT, I am putting her as Scum until I have reason to suspect otherwise.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:04 pm

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In post 561, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 555, Firebringer wrote:
In post 551, Xtoxm wrote:
I have too many town reads

Seems like what scum would do. Put almost everyone as town as to not make any enemies.

Who would they try to lynch then?

My wording on that is a little off, "putting almost everyone as town as to not make many enemies".
Anyways I would imagine scum start off keeping to themselves and being defensive maybe prodding a little but not give any scum/town leads. When the trains start coming they pile on to one they think will actually lynch. If trains starts not working they can abandon and refocus their 'reads' onto someone else.

Right now I suspect at least 1 person on Pokerface/Klingon is scum although thats doesn't exactly narrow it down.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:11 pm

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Alright, fair enough.

Though you honestly think both PokerFace and Klingoncelt are scum? I don't read that from either. I would like to hear more from Poker since he has been inactive.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:44 pm

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Heartless is probably town, I think he was leading the train on Pokerface, Scum rarely leads a train.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:09 am

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In post 612, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 574, zakk wrote:Still trying to figure out if that's a meta that older players hide behind or not

Either way, policy lynches are dumb


Policy lynches would tend to benefit the site in the long term. After you get policy lynched couple times for claiming VT..by people who previously were town reading you, you learn it make it an absolute last resort. I understand the argument behind it. For me, i'm somewhere in the middle. If someone I want to lynch claims VT, then it won't change my mind.

Strange how quickly those voting Klingon have abandoned the wagon.

In post 555, Firebringer wrote:
In post 551, Xtoxm wrote:
I have too many town reads

Seems like what scum would do. Put almost everyone as town as to not make any enemies.


I
really
want to believe this is scum.

My understanding of a policy lynch is. . .X isn't playing how we want to play. Lynch them!

Its basically like bullying on this site. The same way as asking someone to be replaced is, I mean calling someones play bad or OMGUS is one thing but somethings seem a little more childish. . .


Anyways anyone have reads on Xtoxm? I still think he is scum. Also I would think scum would favor policy lynches than anyone else.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:29 pm

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The push on me is real.

Anyways, I think evils are more willing to just join trains in the middle of them. Less likely to do so at beginning or end. The last two votes are more likely to be town. Since I said that who knows if the evils will do it differently. Especially in middle of trains less people expect you to give reasons for it (or I assume at least).

So far my vote on Xtoxm hasn't give me anything new, no evil or town reads. Gonna keep it there though, who knows maybe someone will see what I am seeing.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:47 pm

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In post 653, zakk wrote:
In post 652, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 648, zakk wrote:
In post 646, Skullduggery wrote:
In post 577, zakk wrote:I'm just trying to figure out if PokerFace is a lazy wagon

Because I HATE those

What exactly is a "lazy wagon" and what does it indicate about the alignment of the person being wagoned, in your experience?

wagons where people aren't paying attention to the game, they just want to look busy and ~Do Something~ (as either alignment)

lazy wagons are usually on town, because scum isn't being as lazy as town.

You're saying that lazy wagons are pushed by both Town and Scum (and are therefore not alignment-indicative), but why would Town have any need to look like they're doing something?

If the composition of a lazy wagon is not alignment-indicative, how do you conclude that they are usually on Town players?

If Scum is less likely to push a lazy wagon since they aren't "being as lazy as Town," why do you not want to associate yourself with a wagon full of Town players?

because townies have a desire to look pro-town too, otherwise they'll be lynched
people get busy, they get behind, they jump on wagons to "do stuff" even though they have little/no read on someone

it's a real thing


and they're usually on town players because a) there are more town players, b) scum is less likely to let a wagon on them grow to that size without suggesting an alternate wagon, and c) herp derp why i am i answering these dumb questions

and you're not listening. scum is MORE likely to push a lazy wagon.


Townies have that incentive, but I don't think its even quite as great as evils.

If you think about it, you are pulled in for questioning by cops while being innocent.
Would you act super defensive and act innocent as hell? Or would you throw a fit and get pissed off that you are in the situation?

I think evil have more incentive to play "good boys" just like criminals try to be nice and cooperative with cops to make themselves appear more innocent.

If you are innocent, theres nothing you need to prove except tell the truth.

Those who are guilty must work harder to prove their 'innocence' which causes you to create a persona that people are more likely to not pressure/convict.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:08 pm

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In post 657, zakk wrote:So you're saying I should vote you for acting all innocent then?

It's funny, you're doing my favorite scum tell. It's like clockwork.


Go ahead and vote me.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:34 am

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Yeah Alchemist my vote with Xtoxm isn't very much helping. Pokerface is still not contributing much. I vote that puts him within hammer right? He won't be hammered?

Ahh w/e

VOTE: Pokerface
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Post Post #686 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:24 pm

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In post 685, zakk wrote:^ Hooray for survivalism. For that is as transparent as it is scummy.

You going to hammer or not? Or going to call me scum all day. I can work with either but the hammer is more useful for getting info to the town.

Right now you are just a broken record. Which is getting annoying.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:43 pm

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Hold up, Mod the day one post says 5 days 20 minutes for Day 1. This is followed by each post saying the same. The first post was made on July 7. It is well passed 5 days. This a mistake?

I am guessing so. How much longer do we have?

The Deadline post updates in realtime with a countdown. The time shown on any of these deadlines is how much time you have left until the deadline as of right now.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:31 am

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Been gone for a few days, nice to be back playing.

Anyways, so Heartless was Meow huh. And there is another neighborhood?

Hmmm I wonder if the Neighborhood name indicates alignment?

Our neighborhood is named Jaicro Empire. I am guessing the Aloha is full of town. The Gogol Empire probably has a neighborhood and is the evil were are looking for.

Going off of votes alone I would say BP is most scum just by voting pattern.

So thats my vote:
VOTE: BP
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Post Post #743 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:02 am

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Zakk voting pattern is somewhat erratic. Though the way he acts I doubt he is scum. Going to disregard his voting pattern, I just doubt he is mafia right now. Nor do I think DQ is.

Klingoncelt and BP are more likely IMO

Klingoncelt seems too obvious though due to PF never getting on that train.
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Post Post #779 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:51 pm

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Yeah, it might not be. Considering theirs what? Only about maybe two dozen characters in the show. Majority being only appearing in 1 shot off episodes. I think we can be assured that he probably wouldn't make it that obvious.

Anyways, keeping vote on BP, I think given his voting pattern is good enough reason to vote him. I don't think anything he says could change my mind. Unless he was Dandy or something. Or possibly QT (although like i said the flavor is probably not that indicative of alignment I think)
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Post Post #785 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:02 pm

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I highly doubt Zakk is scum. BP seems way more likely.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:12 pm

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You watch the show at all Xtoxm?
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Post Post #791 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:14 pm

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Well you kinda get that Aloha Oi (if thats how you spell it) are the good guys, Meow is a good guy. I am guessing The Aloha Neighborhood has Dandy and QT, if I had to guess Dandy is TPR. We are also assuming flavor indicates alignment.

So yeah, quite a few assumptions, all based on Heartless flip.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:17 pm

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Also I am in agreement with DQ this train was formed pretty fast. We have alot of time guys. We shouldn't have Zakk at L-1 maybe L-2. This is a little overkill.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:25 pm

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In post 793, Xtoxm wrote:Yeah I get that, but what I don't get is:

1. Where is he getting that i'm neighbors with Skull and Heartless
2. Why is he speculating on this
3. It's commonplace on this site to provide fakeclaims, so why would you assert that they are all town


1. Your interactions perhaps? I would have to go back and read but I swear someone claimed a role yesterday.

2. I think I was first to speculate that neighborhood indicates alignment. Though I didn't speculate who is in Aloha neighberhood.

3. My understanding of my role and the only other roles I have seen.

Right now I am guessing three neighborhoods/mafia chats

Gogol Empire (Scum Neighborhood)
Aloha Oi (Town Neighborhood)
Jaicro Empire (Probably full town Neighborhood)
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Post Post #798 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:04 pm

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I believe that name is mispelled. Isn't it Tohn Travolta?
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Post Post #854 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:00 am

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@Skull I said that his voting pattern was a scum indicator but his actual posts said something completely different. I don't think Zakk is scum, I think more likely its BP or Klingoncelt but even Klingoncelt seems way to obvious to be actually scum. Seems like BP is safe bet if I were going solely on voting patterns.

Anyways. Still leaving vote here. Also not revealing my flavor unless I get pressured, I don't see you claiming your flavor either so don't expect me to either.
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Post Post #857 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:59 am

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I don't think Skull is scum, my perception right now is just misguided town. Could be wrong.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:52 am

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I went and looked for votes did my own:

Zakk (2): Skullduggery, Oversoul
BP (4): Xtoxm, Firebringer, Alchemist21, Klingoncelt
DramaQueen (1): Elbirn
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Post Post #860 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:52 am

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BP is at L-2. Pressure is falling off Zakk.
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Post Post #917 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:41 pm

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Ohhh snap, BP is Dandy?

This changes things quite a bit.

VOTE: UNVOTE

No way Dandy is scum, I would have to yell at Varsoon after if he was.

So Skull is QT I am guessing?
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Post Post #919 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:50 pm

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In post 918, Alchemist21 wrote:That seems to be the case. Why don't you vote xtoxm with me?

He joined pretty early on PF, my better judgement relying on the voting pattern tells me that Xtoxm isn't scum. Even though I read him as such yesterday as scum. My reliance on these voting patterns could screw me up though. . . . .
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Post Post #920 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:51 pm

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It seems like a noob mistake or too easy but maybe it is Klingoncelt.

VOTE: Kilingoncelt

YOLO
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Post Post #921 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:51 pm

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VOTE: Klingoncelt

Spelled it wrong lol
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Post Post #981 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:28 am

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Drama Queen is the least scum player here, Who the hell hammered scum again? Yeah, DQ. You are so bad Zakk.

Also really on Yukari? Why not on Klingoncelt.

This looks bad, will we get a flip before day ends?

Why are so many people on DQ? Jeez you guys are acting like bad town.

Get of Elbirn, like he said when have you heard of scum day shooters?

Pedit: I don't think sabotage works after you already fired. Especially since its a night ability right? Also Yukari could still be scum with that ability.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:33 am

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Zakk I think you are town almost a 100%, you are just totally misguided on this game. This whole game you have been on wrong side and you have managed to have so many people think you are scum.

How is DQ scum? Point it specifically out, because everything points to no.

You say relying on votes is bad, well actions speak louder than words. How often does scum hammer their own?
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Post Post #994 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:36 am

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Yukari, I don't know how much time you have, if you are town we would appreciate a full reads list before you die. PLS!
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:43 am

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In post 992, zakk wrote:P.s. I was like the only one to get the scum right in our last game so don't you dare give me attitude

I was right before therefore I am right now. Yeah. . . .not going to go there.
In post 995, zakk wrote:Yukari is not gonna die, didn't you read my post?

I blocked the vig shot

No, I tend to no read half of your posts because most of them are grouped together. I assume your first post contains all content you want to say and the rest are fluff. How about just posting everything at once?
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:48 am

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In post 1001, zakk wrote:But I'm right dude

You were wrong about PF. Maybe you are right now, I doubt it though.
In post 1003, zakk wrote:And I'm posting like this because I'm at work

You could have put this in your other post and it would take what? 30-40 seconds to type out? Its just alot of filler which is somewhat annoying to see. I don't mind you constantly posting, but when all I see is your posts its like your talking to yourself.

Pedit: I suspected BP because of voting pattern and didn't think you were scum, his flavor though had me convinced he was town.

Pedit 2: I don't think thats how it works for this game?
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:57 am

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In post 1010, zakk wrote:Boooo this is lame

At least I saved 1 person

And ensured another death. Like honestly you killed a Vigi which is like most confirmed town you can have.
Maybe they are both town so it wouldn't matter either way but really?
In post 1011, zakk wrote:Moral of the story, stop wagoning and trying to vig townies

Moral of the story is don't prematurely shoot someone without discussing it with town if its a day shooting.
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:00 am

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That is interesting Elbirn. . .

VOTE: UNVOTE

That destrosy all my scum reads now. . . .Jeez. I guess BP could be Chamelolian? Hmmm
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:42 pm

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@Skull You sound so interested in my flavor, so I will tell you. Its Bea.
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:48 pm

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In post 1114, Xtoxm wrote:Isn't Bea a Gogol

Did you not watch last episode?

Spoilers:
He isn't.

Pedit: Nope, I have no night abilities either btw.
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:53 pm

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In post 1117, Xtoxm wrote:I've only watched 3 eps. I'm slow at getting through shows. I have no idea who half the claimed characters are, or even my own.

Well Bea is a Jaicro spy, sorry for spoiling it for those who haven't watched the show.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:58 pm

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Hey DQ, what you think of two dandys? How likely you think one of them is scum?

I would say its BP if either of the two.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:05 pm

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Skulls case on you is complete weak DQ, I suggest ignoring her. Misguided town most likely.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:11 am

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In post 1146, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1116, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1114, Xtoxm wrote:Isn't Bea a Gogol

Did you not watch last episode?

Spoilers:
He isn't.

Pedit: Nope, I have no night abilities either btw.


What is your actual alignment?

God.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:07 am

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So I am not in alignment with 'God' that was joke. I am town aligned.

Also I believe that one of the Dandy has to be evil. I highly doubt both are town.

VOTE: BP

I think he is most likely the Charmalion (however you spell the damn thing)

Pedit: What?
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #70) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:16 am

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In post 1226, Metal Sonic wrote:firebringer isnt firestarter..... i remember firestarter,, a cool guy... firebringer is a random newbie

Thanks. . . So sick of being called a newbie.
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:20 am

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In post 1209, zakk wrote:Okay. Boo

So, guys, does that sound more like a scum ability or a town ability? I could see it as either tbh

Fire bringer, talk to me

I don't know what you want me to say. Abilities can be town or scum. Depends on how you view the player. I view DQ as 100% Town.
In post 1207, zakk wrote:Fire bringer, vote DQ pls

No, I don't think DQ slot is scum. I have said this 100 times. Also the reasons that BP isn't scum I don't think are good. Couldn't he receive exact same role card but with "Mafia" instead of "Town".
In post 1203, Alchemist21 wrote:Ok,ma few things need to be pointed out here.

A) Zakk said he makes a lost of who's immune or blocked or whatever, so if DQ wasn't on that list their Day Action could still go through.

B) If Oversoul is a traitor, shouldn't he have some passive in addition to his vote shennanigans ability? And why would he have claimed the way he did as scum? (Oversoul, I checked you because before I realized how Towny the claim was I thought it was something that would be dangerous to keep around at LyLo if you were scum, and I was still a little wary of that early interaction between you/firebringer at the time.)

C) Yes, I suppose my role could act as a role cop, but I was using it more as a weak Day Cop. Since PT access and Nightkill access count as abilities for my investigation, then if someone fullclaimed and I saw 2 more abilities from them than they claimed, I'd know they were probably scum.

D) I feel like everyone's getting scruitinized but xtoxm this phase, which is really bothering me because I still think he's scum.

E) http://space-dandy.wikia.com/wiki/Bea

Bea was a Jaicro spy, but then he went loony and tried to fuck everyone over. That flavor claim is making me wary of Firebringer. The scum faction isn't named "the Gogol Empire", it's named "Those who seek to rule the Universe."

Thats actually really valid point, yeah Bea went nuts at the end of that episode. TBH I never saw Gel as actually evil if you watch that episode. He is more Lawful Neutral or Lawful Evil at worst.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:23 am

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Yeah I don't like the format. I prefer shorter/faster paced games.

2 weeks for 1 day is insanely long. It just makes you cringe everytime you log in.

I play on SC2Mafia for forum mafia. Longest those games go is 48 hour days and typically 24 hour nights. It feels perfect time. You can post a few times in a day and the game doesn't seem prolonged.
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #73) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:49 am

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So wait do we have flavors on everyone in the game?
Who hasn't given a flavor yet?
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:53 am

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We hace claims for:

Adelie
Johnny
Bea
Ferdinand
QT
Dandy 1--One of these is scum
Dandy 2--One of these is scum
Honey
Dancing Guy

Right? Am I missing anything?
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #75) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:05 am

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On my phone so can't give huge wall just wanna say I think skull and Salk and SQL slot are hundred percent town.

Elbirn or BP are scum I think BP
Alchemist I had good town vibe now I am unsure of maybe scum

Yukari is null prolly town

King might be scum too not sold on his claim it was obvious we recruited over soul

No opinion on over soul
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #76) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:40 pm

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In post 1341, Elbirn wrote:
In post 1338, Firebringer wrote:On my phone so can't give huge wall just wanna say I think skull and Salk and SQL slot are hundred percent town.

Elbirn or BP are scum I think BP
Alchemist I had good town vibe now I am unsure of maybe scum

Yukari is null prolly town

King might be scum too not sold on his claim it was obvious we recruited over soul

No opinion on over soul


Firebringer confirmed for not even reading the game.

I and BP are conf town, as is Klingon who we have a cop innocent on.


How does him having similar role mean he is town? Like ever hear of mirror roles?
Varsoon could easily put in exact same roles except diff alignment

You are not 100 confirmed.
I think BP is more scum like than you
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #77) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:52 pm

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Lol zaak been all over the place today with votes.

Kinda funny he is fishing for that scum slip
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:30 am

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We hear you, we just don't agree with you.

Also Oversoul claimed his flavor after I asked when DQ was in process of leaving.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:47 am

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I disagree.
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #80) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:43 am

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Hold on I am really only vanilla in this game >.>
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:38 am

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Even if BP powers are real how is he confirmed like did any of you watch the show about charmelionians

They disguise really well,
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:40 am

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Skull is QT how was is skull scum?
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:43 am

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No
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:45 am

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Hard to argue with that
VOTE: skullduggery
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:51 am

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I really feel like BP and alchemist more likely as scum team.

Though I feel like admiral perry is a flavor in this game so someone is lying about their flavor which I am leaning on alchemist as being that person--did he claim? He was last if he did.
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #86) » Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:58 am

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So I kind of called that BP wasn't dandy, kinda wondering why scum killed him. He looked evil as he'll.

So two scum still left? Probably alchemist and I have no idea, xtoxm or oversoul?

I think Elbirn, zakk, and DQ slot are 100% town
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #87) » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:07 pm

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I am just shooting in dark nobody else seems scummy besides alchemist
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #88) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:08 am

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Dang

I honestly thought alchemist was other scum besides me lol
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Post Post #1645 (isolation #89) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:18 am

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This was a very fun game.

I laughed hard when we lynched skull. I knew skull was town and felt like the most obvious opportunistic scum by voting them.

I think my post didn't even hide it.

I came back and saw call lynched too and laughed hard at that.
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #90) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:24 am

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Lol I had 0 power and didn't even know who my allies where :P

Xtoxm was as powerful as hell
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Post Post #1650 (isolation #91) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:25 am

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Zakk I'm shocked you got lynched I was certain you were town lol
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #92) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:30 am

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I guess xtoxm knew I was scum with my claim,

How in the hell did I get away with that?


"Yeah I am Bea, a Jairo spy for Gogol empire" lolololol
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #93) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:38 am

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They should make a season three for the show. I really like it.

Can't wait to play another game you mod varsoon, really liked this one.
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #94) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:46 am

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I want pre in for a sequel game.

Less confirmable flavors though.
You should do alternate universe dandies!!
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Post Post #1734 (isolation #95) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:36 am

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Scum didn't know my alignment.

Only toxin and PF knew each other.
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Post Post #1735 (isolation #96) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:37 am

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Read their chat, day 1 xtoxm wanted me lycnehd
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:00 pm

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Yeah, I was shocked when PF flipped scum. And thought my best bet was to actually hunt scum.

I was really trying to lynch scum the whole game after Day 1 lynch.

I thought Alchemist or BP was the other scum.
BP I thought was possibly a neutral but I wasn't for sure.

I didn't see Xtoxm as particularly scummy.

Only time I didn't scumhunt is with lynching Skull, which I honestly just did in the moment for lolz.
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:00 pm

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/ pre in ; I am sure it will be as fun as this!!
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:05 pm

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I sent my picks.

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