Mini 1681: Pokémon Mafia (Abandoned)

[ZZZX]

I am not voting yet as its pointless but

I can see da guy on fire to have some kind of strat with the "hand" ability (which switches items.) which can be pretty interesting. Not really sure tho. But its a weird move imo.

[ZZZX]

Z, thoughts on Kari and her town read of me?

I just dont agree with someone town reading you so fast. out of all games I had with you I know better that your allignment isnt that clear early on .- Unless u were scum then it has a few vibes. But a town read already? imho u havent done anything yet. SO yea.

[ZZZX]

All hail Arceus!!!
Boo for all non-believers.

Target ZZZX

Only interested in Kari if I don't like her reason(s) behind the BBT-read

Da omgus is apon us.

Targeting me is telling me you want me dead. anyone who wants me dead should die too

Target Domino

[ZZZX]

the part i dont like @ random is the fact that that item isnt really pro town, burning someone really badly over rounds (and possibly killing him)is not really a great thing imho.

[ZZZX]

It doesn't seem especially pro town but it does seem like something random town would do because he thinks he is helping.

I agree that might be the case, which is why I am not attacking him yet.

[ZZZX]

I just dont agree with someone town reading you so fast. out of all games I had with you I know better that your allignment isnt that clear early on .- Unless u were scum then it has a few vibes. But a town read already? imho u havent done anything yet. SO yea.

Z, if you dislike Kari's early town read of me, why have you done nothing about it?

Also, your statement appears contradictory? Like, you say my alignment isn't clear unless I am scum in which case it has a few vibes. So, if there are no vibes, you're saying this would point to me being town, correct?.

Can you clarify?

Even as I dislike Kari's early town I have reasons to believe that it might be just a town's movement or being lazy (or the original person knowing you enough)
Also the idea about the vibe is the fact that you dont always give a vibe as scum either. Its kinda complicated but I do tend to town read you if I dont feel you scummy. But I am not sure,.

[ZZZX]

I'll admit I've played pokemon for years and am still not entirely sure how status effects decide who does/doesn't get them.

I'd lean towards putting the vote on someone speaking less. A bit scummy there.

VOTE: ZZZX

Pretty meh so far. Not going to vote Kira yet.

Lets make a small game!

Domino's whole is:

Spoiler:

All hail Arceus!!!
Boo for all non-believers.

Target ZZZX

Only interested in Kari if I don't like her reason(s) behind the BBT-read

and 4 more people with less than 2 posts, 6 with less than 5
pretty much bulshit reason to use a few pages in. (it seems a went thro it somehow) and the best part is, you didnt do crap either.

VOTE: Marcrell welp it seems i got my first solid scum read. bullshit radar on its max.

[ZZZX]

IDGAF where MS is, I KNOW he is posting on this site, so why isn't he posting here?

He is globally vla for a few days. that is how it is.

also prodge ill read later

[ZZZX]

TOWN:
BBT- Pretty obvious. He’s scumhunting well, and doesn’t take any nonsense.
ASP- Yeah. Townslip.
ProHawk- He’s been playing aggressively which I consider a town thing to do, because the scum would probably try to soften everything.
Nyan- She’s picking out bits in posts that she feels are scummy, and asking for more information.
MAFIA:
Marcell- Why ZZZX?
Kari- Lots of things ping my scum radar. Firstly, why the need to specifically classify her vote as RVS? Secondly, why downplay a serious target as OMGUS? Thirdly, if “no one is pinging your scumdar”, then why all the business with Burn Your House Down?


Happy with my predecessor's target.

You are scum reading the two biggest wagons...? Interesting...

This town gave me town vibes but now I am stuck...

boon NEVER makes posts with town vibes as town. which really confuses the shit out of me lol

this shalt be read... later./

[ZZZX]

Mixed vibesfrom BBT.

ALso haven't been too active here and I apologize for it

[ZZZX]

I have not gave this game the attention it deserves. Tomorrow is when I shall

[ZZZX]

vla for 1-2 days for some kind of localish kind of event.

[ZZZX]

Prod received but I was sent no mail (also I was vla until less than 24 hours ago)

[ZZZX]

Didn't get it tho. The last pm was at the start of the phase.

Also dis is taking a while

[ZZZX]

I will read toniight or tomorrow.

Got good time for this.

[ZZZX]

As promised the read will happen tonight, Why am I making this post?

Just in case I am a few hours late

-Z

[ZZZX]

Shit... I am starting to feel really sick 30 minutes ago so I will rest instead of reading this. Hopefully I'll be back soon enough on the brifhtside 40 pages should be ez to read

[ZZZX]

Getting sick is a crime now? Sigh

[ZZZX]

"doing nothing 29 pages"
"scummy"
"ZZZX"

Those 3 phrases never gather together imo. Not doing much for 29 pages is pure null eitherway, more so if you are talking about Z fucking X

eitherway I am still feeling like crap and wont argue anyway

[ZZZX]

Last times I played with you I am pretty sure I ended up catching you as scum(although I stepped back but we lynched you anyway) or won the multiball. Unless its recent. But you contridacted your self just now.

Not doing anything is scummy. But you saw me not doing anything generally

See the problem?

[ZZZX]

If you are going for me then you must be honest about your intentions. Hiding it as a scum read is bs.

Best case would be a pl which you don't do. Or scum trying to get free damage into town.


Your move bbt.

[ZZZX]

Can say that I,be been having a tough time lately keeping up.

You remind me of your push on me as scum on shredder mafia (where I had a strong gut read on you that I ignored cus logical but fuck logic.)

Getting scum but vibes.

Policy day 2 when you said I'm "scummy" as a reason 6 posts ago? Nah

target:bbt

First scum caught. Thank me later

[ZZZX]

yea I can agree with that. VOTE: zzzx

Igmeou


Ur next after but flips scum imo

[ZZZX]

@mod are dark pokemon of the dark type always? Or can't this question be answered?

This might give me an interesting idea.

[ZZZX]

I literally said I didnt read the thread yet and will do tpnoght.

Thanks mik tho

[ZZZX]

Should read in an hour approx

[ZZZX]

One thing I know is that the first scumflip in the game is supposed to be very informative for us which should be useful. I think?

Either way way reading full in 20-30. But until I comment my thoughts it might be an hour or two

[ZZZX]

Mid read thoughts: I think that on is scum with focus stash. Did some maths and the HP count is pretty realisitic. I'd like to be the one doing the finishing blow as I know my abilities directly affect him.

Any other person targeting him could be taken as a scum claim.

target:PN

Also explination: only dark pokemon can buy focus stash d1.

[ZZZX]

Bbt can die after pn.

If you guys targeted him that'd be thankful

Read half of it my phone is dying . gone charge it and keep reading .

[ZZZX]

Random. Do you know for 100% that your attack can kill him? If so I can leave it to you.

target:bbt

[ZZZX]

Fine, I dont trust you both but if he survives I know where to look next which is nice

[ZZZX]

Cus if he survives that means his sxum buddy used some kind of heal or smthing.
If he survives we got confirmed 2 scum out of 3.

Scum is either playing it safe by finishing off their own for credit or trying to heal. Either way its win-win for us.

[ZZZX]

I'd rather be safe and target him myself since I know my attacks can hurt him. But it doesn't really matter personally . also when he flips scum which he will ur next bbt

[ZZZX]

Z, state why I'm scum.

You never did that catch up you said you were going to do. Your vote on me is a quite blatant OMGUS.

Why am I scum?

Your system of tunneling is scum. Using oppurtanstic votes and fake logic. I read half of this. I don't need to explain what I read unless I have to. Do I?

[ZZZX]

Also people who try to attack me legitly usually end up in my town reads . but this I'd you from shredderd mafia. Scum berries.

[ZZZX]

i dont ankly care of what you think it is,
Attacking me because I am scummy and after proving him wrong using the term "policy" by someone who doesnt do it.

Also who said I didnt read?

I read and this bbt is scum bbt tunneling
eitherway You can kill me but I will still deal damage to bbt. and I would have no regrets.

[ZZZX]

I just love how people say my logic is faulty and ignore showing it is then voting me.

Scum team work at it's finest

[ZZZX]

Leave two people on PN, and then everyone else pile onto Boon and Z.

That sounds like a great plan if I do say so myself.

A great plan for scum indeed.

[ZZZX]

If I am ignored then I literally have 0 motivation to do much to convince you guys. I will quitely do my part and if it ended up as me dying then I wouldnt leave before making sure scum bbt eats as much damage as possible

[ZZZX]

Perhaps it is, but does that even make me scum? Not really.

[ZZZX]

I dont have to explain my thought process, my first round target which i hit is 80%+ flipping scum. my 2nd round one will flip, scum will hate and use any excuse to hit me but the fact I am 80% right on PN is not changing, and the fact I am prob right on BBT too wouldnt change either.

[ZZZX]

At least I am satisfied with ym choices so far.

[ZZZX]

I am pretty sure I was, Althou I didnt talk much he was one of the few I targeted, And I know I hit him pretty hard too.

[ZZZX]

Because I will super effectively hit my mafia team mateee. Suspect him all the time and prove he is sxum. Because fuxk logic

[ZZZX]

I have done more than you bbt either way. And even if ididnt it wouldn't change a thing.

And you are conflicted. In one post you say its a policy and now you are saying because I am scum? Fucking kill that lying shit.

[ZZZX]

Ignoring my points arnet you.
Either way I have proved enough that you are scum. I pushed on just enough and right now in don't feel a single point of regret or anything here. I sm having a good fun game catching all scum so far. Eh bbt. Aka ignore my points t

[ZZZX]

Z is probably scum but won't surprise me if he's town

So unstable. Much things.

If I survive and but magically died or smthing your next lmao. So undecided

[ZZZX]

you've actively been defending doing fuckall all game. Id prefer a wagon on you should both flip town.

Feel free to talk about it but I did my part in catching scum and I will prob get hit hard enough to faint today OE in the best case tomorrow.

Hopefully if I survive until BOTH bbt and on flip scum then you guys can start knowing I am the one doing the most so far.

I got nothing to say because everything I say is ignored. Do what you will. I did my part without regret

[ZZZX]

I'm dying anyway. Saying whatever won't change crap. I am just looking back at my play and speaking my thoughts out load.

Nothing to see here.

[ZZZX]

Am broke. Which is a bummer

[ZZZX]

The 50% def/sp.d for no. Evolved pokes

[ZZZX]

Aka Eviolite
Piss who do you think is scum outside of me?

[ZZZX]

I just want to know why people who targeted me did so. IMHO I don't really get it. But after a while I just gave up on it and decided to do as much as I can before my death

[ZZZX]

If I faint and flip tow. (Which i would) I'd love if you make sure bbt-scum dies.

I did explain my bbt read. Prob not in an understandable way which is something I really must work on.

Pedit: prob

Also if on flips scim then there might be scum on his wagon which is a possibility if he had a focus stash.

[ZZZX]

No but you get told if your attack is effective or not. etc

[ZZZX]

Waiting for myself to flip and stuff

[ZZZX]

Why get an evolite if I can get a focus stash as scum?

[ZZZX]

Have you seen ZZZX ever notngettig ganged up at the closes opportunity?

[ZZZX]

I'm not arguing if you are scum or not, i'm saying getting eviolite isn't alignment indicative.

Noone said it is.

[ZZZX]

They said they don't see scum motivation which is the same as saying its null imho

[ZZZX]

Someone who targeted me lowered my attack.
We knwo that if bbt flips scum then one of his allies is on my wagon 80% sure

Boon is doing a weird attack on me. Anyway

target:bbt

Was right about pn. Am satisfied kinda

[ZZZX]

target:mario

He slipped because he only check his cash. Theoretically might mean that kari gave 200 while scum game the rest? Idk

I want bbt to die still. Checking smthing

[ZZZX]

Take note that 1200-700:500

Which means he spent 500 which unless he bought full heal he wouldn't.

[ZZZX]

Also surprising that my HP is pretty high stm

[ZZZX]

Percentage wise after hit

[ZZZX]

Actually just lets get 6 people on Mario or 7 and he rest go bbt.

Alright?

[ZZZX]

Scum team is

Pn/bbt/Mario/??

[ZZZX]

Target: Mario.

My attack was not very effective...again.

I know luv. Otherwise I would a lost more.

At least I have narrowed down your type. Considerably

[ZZZX]

Mario is scummy.

Did you see his replace out/replace in?

I'm sure I have cited other reasons in my ISO as well.

Bad bus is bad bus

I wish I can have more that one target. Meh

[ZZZX]

Percentage wise after hit

Gut says its boon for forth

Mb hawk if it wasn't. But I doubt that

[ZZZX]

Idk about burn . totally missed him while reading. And for you hawk its a pure gut read. But other reads are pretty strong.

Also last post was decent.

[ZZZX]

Anyway hawk after we get rid of 3 scum out of 4 it gets pretty easy to filter out the last one.

Esp how after all this is a nightless and they can't even nk me

[ZZZX]

@BBT unlike you guys bussing each others he is actually targetting me and trying to hit me with the last hti despiration .

Just like you did, PN did and now hes doing it.

you scum want me dead. But cnat do it
frankly anyone thinking I am scum now si either so bad or scum.

Pick yo poison (?)

[ZZZX]

Mario is dying anyway today so

Target:BBT

Lets see how long you can survive scum. Mario will die today 80% unlesshe had focus, if he did then he would die tomorrow.
So I will deal with you. once you are lynched and flip scum then I would have caught 2 scum and became borderline conf town.

p-ediot: yea, I wrote alot of them. But unlike you I trust in my roles deductment and theories to think I should do decent damage to you. so yea.

[ZZZX]

so happily no matter what you do in this game mode you cant take away my right to target you. which I will use gracefully to get rid of you slowly but surely

[ZZZX]

Can you state those reasons again? That would be just great, all in one post, can even use bullet points if you like.

I think you should stay on Mario to make sure he dies.

I'll just buy a potion dude.

if you'd buy a potion then I know I am forcing scum to waste thier cash since if you were town with 700+ mario's scum flip it wouldnt matter to you if u spent 300, but if you only got 100 then you know how impactful those 300 are.
I will state the reasons later. I am pretty hungry now and busy. I will give you a nice long bulletlist to show the world you are scum. meanwhile you die.

[ZZZX]

Interesting lucky. Why wsd that tho?

[ZZZX]

Z, your next post was supposed to be a case for why I'm scum.

I said latter. Unless you expect a message from me on phone while I am busy.

Reasons later. Am busy. Hate it or not I am quite sure myself . convincing others comes later.

Was* //pedit

[ZZZX]

Also bbt even without reason this is your scum game. Your tunneling is so perfectly nogalistic I don't even.

Also werent you literallu saying I am a mere policy? Did you change your mind yet again?

[ZZZX]

I never said I meta you

Its the feel. The motive etc

Also yesterday after I "lined" the next scun lynch you said I am a policy.

Also people attacked me for lining up PN day 1 too. I'm loving it.

And lucky. Unless you were town reading bbt why would you use an attack lowering move to protect him

[ZZZX]

BBT's discussion about his fate can wait later because Lucky has ignored my question

@Lucky why would you lower my attack if I am attacking your scum read?

[ZZZX]

Can he game start moving ? Its kinda slow..

[ZZZX]

Waiting for information. What would you like to happen Z?

us moving to the next phase already, also a few flips

[ZZZX]

I need to know the HP percentages from the beginning of Day 2. Did you happen to write them down?

Look at mod iso Im unsure why you didnt think of the when any amount of vca requires it

... mod removed them recently you know.

[ZZZX]

-I messed this up and accidentally edited it, PM me if you want the HP of a player here.-

You're being a pain you know :b

[ZZZX]

Target Count 3.03:

MarioManiac4 (5):

Boonskiies, Burn Your House Down, Randomidget, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee

BlueBloodedToffee (3):

Lucky2u, Pisskop, ZZZX

Not Targeting (3):

MarioManiac4, Nyankotachi, ProHawk

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-07-12 05:45:47).

I'm seeking a replacement for Nyankotachi, please invite anyone who may be interested as I really don't want to pause the deadline.

*feels*

[ZZZX]

Btw if BBT flips scum lucky dies. just saying.

also piss is the only person I am sure of as town atm

[ZZZX]

also piss is the only person I am sure of as town atm

Why does this ring like "I hate not being able to night kill... must .... keep... my... options... open..."?

As scum I'd buddy up to the most players that I can manipulate emotionally

piss isnt someone I can relaly manipulate. I dont know piss enough

also I do what ever I fucking want to, I am not gona lie or smthing as town. So no.

[ZZZX]

Btw if BBT flips scum lucky dies. just saying.

also piss is the only person I am sure of as town atm

...what? You have looked at our interactions and decided it's scum vs scum?

Yes

[ZZZX]

You wanna kill Lucky BBT?

Tomorrow.

Mario Today.

I actually might settle for this too. Since I am very sure of one scum between you and lucky at least (and a good chance at two for the price of one)

[ZZZX]

I have too many scum reads. This can't be correct.

And you droped 100 town points

you attacked me for not having many town reads and "having open options as scum"

then you drop this post

I doubt there is a need for me to explain why this post is bad right?

[ZZZX]

I guess one important fact is that scum-team's morale has got to be at an all time low. Bad draw of inactive players, I bet their chat doesn't top... 10 pages. Top that off with me calling out their scum-mates on D1, and driving Marcrell/PN to the grave and well I don't blame them. Add to that the frustration of a nightless game.

Players that match low morale:

Nyanokotachi

Burn

Mario

- but he is almost assuredly scum given his "attempt" to justify his slip and then completely dropping off the map.

Re-reading Nyano's ISO, I'm not entirely convinced they were scum given their reactions and targets. Burn is likely scum, and I am kinda liking Lucky as his partner.

Sorry Kari, I know I said Boon needed to die for his vote on you, but I kinda saw his trajectory in his posts, it just wasn't that apparent in his naked vote post .

This post alone will rule out Bella being scum for a while.

I've been going back and forth on BBT. Some days, I am sure he is town, then I read a couple posts, and it throws doubt. I don't like that he is the additional wagon to Mario though. I think I just like his contributions to the progress of the game mostly. I also think the thing I hate most is how much he has passively defended scum.

I can't really objectively look at Random, conf-bias and all.

Given the response of known scum re:ZZZZX, I don't really think he is scum.

And that about covers it. I can't decide who is scummier among Burn and Lucky. They both have 100%, so I can't differentiate there. PN put both Mario and Burn in his town pile. Out of his scum pile, Lucky is the only scum in it that I can see. Soo... I think I will

Target: Lucky

Top that off with Lucky seemingly trying to walk on egg-shells with my recent attempt at a reach-out isn't sitting well with me.

I really hope the difficulty in choosing between Lucky and Burn is because they are both scum.

Mkay liked this post tho. Pretty well done. But I still am going after BBT. i believe good scum would raise there "acting morale" if they want to have a step in the game, so i doubt that the entire scum team is at low morales

[ZZZX]

target: zzzx

Interesting

[ZZZX]

target: zzzx

what made you change from BBT to ZZ?

"ZZZX was my town read and BBT was my scum read., ZZZX caught me and BBT faking a bus and voted me. MUST DAMAGE HIM"

How accurate was I. remind me about this in the post-game

[ZZZX]

target: zzzx

what made you change from BBT to ZZ?

"ZZZX was my town read and BBT was my scum read., ZZZX caught me and BBT faking a bus and voted me. MUST DAMAGE HIM"

How accurate was I. remind me about this in the post-game

I had you as a town read? You caught me? You haven't done anything remotely to have "caught" me.

I believe in the gut that caught half the scum team. Thus you die after bbt, no matter how much you discredit me if I ever flip we both know how much in deep crap it will be. For you cant discredit me after I catch nearly everyone in the scum team.

Brah

[ZZZX]

I'm taking a tip from ProHawk and looking at interactions. Zzzx never interacts with pn until the vote he makes where he is suddenly %100 behind the wagon. I know we are killing Mario but zzzx should be the other target.

And my puny english skills cant make sense out of this

anyway you die after BBT, or even before, I am not even sure.

This is itneresting.

[ZZZX]

I can't even understand a gut feeling that bbt are scum partners. You need some peptobismo to fix that gut of yours. Where exactly did you catch half the scum team anyway? You certainly weren't a leading cause for PN's lynch so you've caught 0 confirmed scum so far. You drunk posting brah?

No

Am resisting now switching to you from bbt.

[ZZZX]

I have too many scum reads. This can't be correct.

And you droped 100 town points

you attacked me for not having many town reads and "having open options as scum"

then you drop this post

I doubt there is a need for me to explain why this post is bad right?

You're right, it was more out of frustration from the generalized poor activity level/play from many people. My reads formed quite nicely I think after I spent time to sort stuff.

Cool. Ur town

[ZZZX]

was going for modkilling inactives but since most went for abandom I will vote for the same. its ruined now anyway... one of my best gut rektations