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In post 28, Nachomamma8 wrote:sure ok I can town read that too
What is this? What is the town read? Not following-
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1) "Reputed to be the "most powerful" sign of the zodiac, Scorpios lead fate filled lives and have intense and dramatic personal relationships. Even as children Scorpios are often found to be wise beyond their years. Many astrologers call this the sign of the "oldest souls". Old and wise beyond the average, Scorpios often know all the answers, except sometimes; they too often have difficulty finding what they need to develop their own happiness."
All of that^^^
2) played with farside. nacho long time ago. Maybe marquis? Only know farside is abrasive town? That's it
3) I'd do daykill and save for end of game. Or hide for end game.-
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In post 41, Marquis wrote:In post 37, lane0168 wrote:@nacho, roger
VOTE: lane
we are absolutely lynching this today
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In post 66, Ricastle wrote:Okay...? Why?
I'd like metal to take a stab at this before farside if that's ok with farside.-
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In post 28, Nachomamma8 wrote:sure ok I can town read that too
Can you please quote the reasoning in this statement...
What else could have been asked when all I wanted was clarification on what nacho was talking about? He understood what you were saying much more clearly than I did-
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I thought you were talking about farsides post (second player post) I didn't understand it. I asked about it. I got clarification. And that was all I wanted.
Essentially, you're saying I'm scum who knew exactly what it all meant, proceeded with my fake scum hunting, felt like nacho completely derailed it with an explanation, and just abandoned it...?-
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In post 73, Ricastle wrote:
Sorry, you lost me.In post 69, lane0168 wrote:Our ricastle, maybe you could try answering your own question.
I'm just wondering if you can see anything wrong with your post farside quoted and voted you for-
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@ricastle, yeah your second paragraph explains what I was thinking but I'm not going to assume that's the reason for their vote.
And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.
@farside, metal voted because of the response I guess. What did you see wrong with his game plan post?-
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In post 62, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 61, Ricastle wrote:VOTE: startfromtheheart
I think it's pretty obvious how to start this. We'll do popcorn for dayvigs and see who has one. If nobody does, Far is confscum. If somebody does, it's a scum lynch and Far is conftown. That sound good?
There was some weird rule the last Zodiac where you could post "Daykill: X" in thread and then PM RC privately so it wouldn't count.
Is the rule a secret rule that only the person who gets the daykill knows? Cause I don't see it...
daykill:startfromtheheart
@mod: is there a rule that says you can submit a daykill via thread and repeal it via pm?-
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In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.
The game being broken? The scum had a choice. I've realized as scum, the daykill turns out to be the worst choice. Now use your daykill or die before you get the chance
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In post 96, lane0168 wrote:In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.
The game being broken? The scum had a choice. I've realized as scum, the daykill turns out to be the worst choice. Now use your daykill or die before you get the chance
VOTE: aronis
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In post 105, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 82, lane0168 wrote:And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.
No benefit to this.
Except now I'm beginning to see that there's huge benefit to not picking the daykill. Don't you agree? If they picked it, we're trading scum 1 for 1 today.-
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I'm assuming they had to pick pregame. And they don't have daytalk.
@farside, did you get your horoscope before the game was opened? I'm assuming so since it was your first post.
We can't draw any significant conclusions if no one dies. But it's worth having everyone at least try to daykill if we're trading 1 for 1.
@mod, when did scum pick their fortunate? Were they forced to pick it pregame? There's a couple other clarification questions I've posed. Let me know please if you saw them or if you can't answer them-
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In post 132, Metal Sonic wrote:okay um
as a dayvig expert im 99% sure this plan wont work the way its intended (what is the way it's intended? to remove the daykill from scum's hands first? so we can play without fear?)
but whatever
daykill: lane0168
I figured it would be a way to out scum of there was a daykill. Starting to look like theres not.
Tammy. Daykill someone. Are you not reading? Someone that hasn't been picked yet-
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In post 137, Tammy wrote:I did. You even have me as targeting macho in your list.
Ha. Sorry. Foot, securely inserted in mouth-
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In post 89, elusive wrote:Ok, now I get what Ricastle meant by "popcorn" the daykill...although being clear usually helps:
daykill: Marquis
It makes sense although I would say it would probably be best for town to choose a specific player (the scummiest or lurkiest bastard) and have players target one players and then wait to see if anything happens, then the next player target that scummy lil monkey, etc.
Yes?
I'm not sure why Ricastle is being read as scummy tho so explanamations.
Farside, I actually am a Leo although some cusp thing is in Libra. I get along with Leo women and Libra guys\girls (for the most part there's always that one person who was switched at birth)
Is marquis your top scumread?
In post 93, elusive wrote:In post 91, Ricastle wrote:Waiting for the mod will take ages, as I believe they're barely ever on. It'd be much quicker to just target different players.
Daykill: Metal Sonic
Yeah, I see what you mean although we'll still have to wait on the Mod. I just hate the risk of killing a town player obviously.
do not like the last line of this. I think the obviously at the end is kinda screwy
This shows a completely different mindset that I was thinking in at the time. I thought aronis not going along with her daykill might mean they had one. Therefore I told aronis not to daykill me. This post looks like elusive had no fear of being daykilled by the person they just voted for not using their 'daykill'. Before we all knew there wasn't a daykill. Makes me think elusive picked something other than the daykill
In post 139, elusive wrote:Why is Nacho making up rules that doesn't exist? :O
What rules is he making up?
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The more I think about ricastle's farside confscum comment the more it sketches me out. Possible it was completely genuine. But also possible he thought daykill was obvious choice in pregame as scum, his scum partner explained it better and chose something different, but still figured he could get farside mislynched using the logic.
I'm still on the side that he was genuine, but it's definitely an ongoing debate in my head. I guess the rest of his play will tell-
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In post 163, Ricastle wrote:Oh, really? Hm. If that was the case here, though, then I don't know why on earth scum would choose anything other than Dayvig. Strange indeed...
Because a 1 for 1 trade is not a good trade off for scum.
What's the difference between blue townie and green vanilla townie though?-
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@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.
Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?-
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In post 203, elusive wrote:In post 199, lane0168 wrote:@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.
Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?
lane, try reading my posts before open if your mouth and coming off like a moron. I answered both your question.
I'm town and don't really care for people who interact Wo reading or content.
Lol wow that was aggressive.
In post 139, elusive wrote:
Call me a moron but that's the extent of elusives answer to my question about marquis. I asked him because he vote marquis and then said we should all target the scummiest player. Was just asking if he still thought marquis was scummiest. He never addressed me cause he's scared.
@elusive, in case I really am a moron, can you show me where you answered about marquis?
And are you still not a fan of scumreads? Cause so far I've got that tammy pinged you as off, and you're scare of farside brevet l because she's calm, which seriously, what the hell would she blow up about? Pretty sure she will when provoked. Sleepy bear deal haha-
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In post 203, elusive wrote:In post 199, lane0168 wrote:@elusive... not a big fan of scum reads or answering questions or acknowledging pressure? That's cool.
Farside has this way too easy right now. I'm sorry far. I'm with you. But what if you lied?
lane, try reading my posts before open if your mouth and coming off like a moron. I answered both your question.
I'm town and don't really care for people who interact Wo reading or content.
Ok so did you answer both my questions? Or did you answer 1 and find the other irrelevant. I was only asking if you wanted to daykill scum players and daykilled marquis if he was your biggest scum read. Which you couldn't and didn't answer.
The other squirrels? I'm alone in the push backed by a vote from farside. Don't know if that's still where she wants her vote or not, but either way, who are the other squirrels?
I don't know why more people aren't voting elusive btw.-
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In post 212, elusive wrote:Re: stupid questions.
You asked about Nacho and you asked about my thoughts re the daykill plan which I already quoted\discussed\have not interest in rehashing because I think there isn't anything there to actually question and rather you're wasting time trying to look busy when in actuality you're grasping at straws.
Once I have an unfavorable opinion of someone and they continue to twist my words my responses become...let's call it abrasive.
People, other then scum or derp town, don't vote me in general.
Here is a little primer on mafia since you seem to be lacking the basics and maybe need a spin in the Newbie queue:
1. Each player is different and if you find something different about them, go on their Wiki or look through their topics and run some meta data
2. Before asking repetitive questions or ones that are answered, ask yourself, "Does this make sense? Should I ISO the player and see if the response is already answered since its only day one and I have only 9 pages to wade through? Am I going to come off as a tryhard scumtard doofus when I attempt to tunnel a player for something while ignoring more obvious people who have done less?"
This is scum or quite possibly the worst town play of all time.
A) I didn't ask about your thoughts on the daykill plan, I asked you if marquis was your boat scumread. A question that is seemingly too difficult to answer.
B) twist your words. Please elusive, quote me one time where I twist your words.
C) do you think farside is scum or derptown?
D) I'm not trying to look busy. I am busy
E) are you really going to try that hard to make me look like I'm a terrible player? You're just trying to call me shit whIle being completely shit.
Elusive is so scum it hurts... or so terrible town it almost makes me want to binge eat-
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In post 258, elusive wrote:Tammy,
SO why are you acting like someone with something to hide? Two can play at being uncooperative. The logical thing as town to do is to try to help players with reading you and your reaction was not your usual reaction as town. Instead you're trying to engage in theatrics. Surprising.
As for town in this game, once you've looked at the first two games I've linked, and come to some thesis then ask me for more to follow up. Once I start digging, I go far.
Oh and here is one scum game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=54228
The hypocrisy is real with this one. I think its funny elusive linked 2 games where tammy didn't do setup spec and tried to condemn her for that.
For the people that didn't bother with looking at the links, one was a newbie, one was a mini normal. That's downright ridiculous elusive. How bad can you get?-
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In post 265, elusive wrote:I'm sorry did you point to a game where she was different? No? Then stop being lame.
No I didn't but you're straight up scum, and lying about tammys game. You are either scum or literally the worst town I've ever seen-
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In post 273, elusive wrote:My read on Tammy was a based on a cold read of her posts so far which was then followed up with meta data and then her reactions\behavior to being suspected. It's on her or her defenders to actually disprove data through evidence. Town usually tries to be helpful, especially since she reads me as innocent or leaning that way. Why wouldn't you work with your town or lean town reads?
Yeah, no.
Lol you're hilarious. It's on us to proof her innocence? Maybe you haven't played before but you have to get people to vote someone to get them lynched. ITs up to you to prove she's scum.-
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In post 309, Aronis wrote:In post 308, elusive wrote:Ric, I'm not going to have a meltdown andI'm town as heck. Also trying to provoke players into meltdowns while seemingly fun also encourages them to keep doing it rather then channeling emotions in more positive fluff GIF and music based ways.
No more meltdowns for me. I can't stop being sassy but am trying to keep on the right side of that line as well.
Which can be difficult.
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In post 359, Nachomamma8 wrote:elusive is one of the towniest people in the game
How can you say this? That's not even remotely true. As far as I'm concerned-
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In post 389, farside22 wrote:Things that elusive failed to mention.
There was more then one scum faction in the game she is referring to.
Second i don't recall ever saying she or he in the game when reffwring to Elusive, yes my memory/ADD is very real
Are their 2 games you were sk and she was scum? Because the one I found she was wolf and she died day 2. Far from the claim you were in end together. Another lie on her part. Funny the people voting her are the only ones that don't have reasons for their votes-
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So elusive doesn't seem to be this bad with cases in her town games. She actually is pretty good at scumhunting (meaning her cases are legit, not necessarily correct) and doesn't seem so agitated as town. As far as I can see she's not playing her town game at all. Besides posting links. She seems to always do that, but they usually make sense.
Not like linking a newbie and normal game and questioning why tammy didn't setup spec in those-
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