Mini 1696: SPACE DANDY MAFIA, GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry, I said I'd start being serious, but there's still a whole lot of players to make themselves known.

Imma move my vote to one of those.

VOTE: Klingoncelt. Because Klingon.

Hi, I made it.

Watching the interaction between Fire and the DQ.

[Klingoncelt]

Watching the interaction between Fire and the DQ.

And?

I'm having a hard time deciding which is Town and which is Scum.

It almost looks like Scum trying to distance.

[Klingoncelt]

I am the normal one. She is the one insisting theres a connection between us. Which I find very odd. I find her behavior suspicious in general.
...

We aren't one person, like what are you talking about? She keeps trying to say we are like one person or something, but we aren't.

Spoiler: We are Neighbors.[/spoiler ]

Interesting.

[Klingoncelt]

Watching the interaction between Fire and the DQ.

And?

I'm having a hard time deciding which is Town and which is Scum.

It almost looks like Scum trying to distance.

This post does not give me the warm and fuzzies.
"I'm having a hard time deciding...."
"It almost looks like..."

Quantifying, flip floppy language that doesn't take a definitive stance. And then ended with lightly suggesting that both of them are scum. Gross.

Keep reading. A few posts later it's revealed that they're in a Neighborhood.

So they are able to talk away from the rest of us, but they aren't Scum. They're neighbors. It's cool.

[Klingoncelt]

Hi, I made it.

Watching the interaction between Fire and the DQ.

pops in for the first time almost 4 pages in. no random vote. clearly read the whole thread before posting. reacts to sole vote on self, before anything else. picks something to talk about which is game-related, but puts no original thought into the game.

every single one of these things is scummy.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

I don't have as much free time as you, kid.

I don't RV 4 pages in.

I never read the whole thread before posting, I reply to posts as I come to them.

You have no clue what originality is, Noob.

VOTE: zakk

[Klingoncelt]

Reading up:

This is my first bastard game. I have a feeling I'm gonna get bombarded with surprises and things I wasn't excepting. But two-person neighborhoods? Nah.

@oversoul. 147 lulz you're voting me for having had a good fun in RVS? Your sole reasons for finding me scum are on page 1 and 2. You pretty much ignore me after that, because, I would assume, it doesn't apply anymore as I effectively stop fooling around.

The main thing about the rest of the thread so far is just game theory, it seems. I hate re reading, but I will do and post anything else I find useful.

FoS

on Oversoul, for farfetch reasoning, but my pressure stays on Klingoncelt.

Pressure?

Seriously?

[Klingoncelt]

I just voted for Zakk, because he gave the lamest stock/fluff reads ever on my posts followed by a bad vote.

I'm Town, just so ya know.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm V/LA right now, I'll have more reads after the weekend.

[Klingoncelt]

Back then I voted Klingoncelt because I wanted to apply pressure on someone that hadn't posten anything relevant as of yet. I don't like lurkers.

And he hasn't really posted anything of significance as of yet. So I'm gonna stick to him for the timebeing. ...

Do you have any idea what V/LA means? Any idea at all? Let me help you with that - It means I won't be posting much, don't look for anything profound.

[Klingoncelt]

I just voted for Zakk, because he gave the lamest stock/fluff reads ever on my posts followed by a bad vote.

I'm Town, just so ya know.

You are town really? lol, would you tell us if you weren't

Interesting question. Probably not, because while it's okay to claim Town (as Town), claiming Scum (as Scum) is considered game-throwing.

Anyway, players love to read me as Scum on Day 1 when I'm Town. I get mislynched lots. Funny thing, as Scum I usually fly under the radar for several Days.

[Klingoncelt]

That's nice, but it's not about them, it's about your initial stance on it. I dont like it. Now Im confused as to why you seemingly missed my point, or, ignored it and said some words to make it go away.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Klingkncelt

How's that for pressure?

Pretty dang lame, actually. I'm V/LA. That means I'm not here. So the pressure isn't seen.

[Klingoncelt]

I just voted for Zakk, because he gave the lamest stock/fluff reads ever on my posts followed by a bad vote.

And yet, nowhere do you indicate that you think zakk is Scum. Isn't that kind of an important component to a vote?

Lame stock/fluff reads on other players' posts followed by a bad vote come from Scum, not Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Now he's in a position to sweat his explanations.

If you're talking about me, check the pronoun. I'm a SHE.

If you don't like my explanations, that's too bad. They are what they are.

[Klingoncelt]

Claim time Klingon!

I'm V/LA, fuckwit. Wait till I come back.

[Klingoncelt]

*tick tock*

I'm gonna

unvote

.

It's too soon to hammerdown. I wanna hear from Klingon, and risking hammer w/out his word with more than a week til deadline is just dumb.

Finally you say something sensible. Congratulations.

[Klingoncelt]

'mkay, let's do some diagnosis here:::

skull let's walk through this klingon vote

Klingon also doesn't look great. She said in 124 that she can't decide if DQ and Firebringer was Town vs. Scum or Scum vs. Scum, but I feel like Town-Klingon would have considered Town vs. Town as a possibility too. The over-defensiveness of 239 indicates that she has a guilty conscience, and I really don't like 242, where she says why she's voting for Zakk but doesn't actually seem to think that he's Scum.

>>>> allllllllright, let's start with the dq/firebringer thing. i'm not really sure what skull's issue is since klingon herself thought the interaction was off TO BEGIN WITH (I.E. THAT WAS HER STARTING POINT). Post 96. working from that premise, characterizing it as scum/town or scum/scum kind of makes sense. i guess i'm kind of confused about where you're getting "she didn't consider the possibility of town v town" or, even if this is the case, it's relevance.

>>>> 239, 239, 239. could you unpack that a little more? how did you go about assessing "guilty conscience"?

>>>> re: 242; where are you getting that she doesn't actually seem to think zakk is scum?

I like this post.

[Klingoncelt]

She didn't mention being on V/LA until her last post, but I saw she had a V/LA status active since the game started (or at least very early on).

My son had to be rushed to the hospital, he was suffering from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago. I decided to focus on him instead of the game.

I'll be back later tonight, I'm very tired and in a cranky mood right now.

[Klingoncelt]

Now he's in a position to sweat his explanations.

If you're talking about me, check the pronoun. I'm a SHE.

If you don't like my explanations, that's too bad. They are what they are.

Note to self: This is why I should always refer to people as "they". Sorry.

I'll be back later today to see what's been up.

Apology accepted.

I'm just now back and looking more at the game so far.

[Klingoncelt]

If you're talking about me, check the pronoun. I'm a SHE.

They do this to every1, no need to feel singled out.

And by they, we mean lotta ppl on this site. <,>

I do it myself, but only in cases where there's no pronoun and the avatar is gender-suggestive. (Like when a guy uses a female anime character avi.)

[Klingoncelt]

Claim time Klingon!

I'm V/LA, fuckwit. Wait till I come back.

Claiming takes all of 2 minutes. Or are you stalking...? Hmm?

No, I wasn't stalking, I was at the hospital hoping my son didn't die from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago, actually. I'm happy to say that he's going to make a full recovery, physically at least.

I'm aligned with the heroes, in a vanilla sort of way.

[Klingoncelt]

Hmm that was in poor taste given the post I didn't read...

Sorry to hear the bad news Kling. I wish him luck!

'Sall good.

[Klingoncelt]

My son had to be rushed to the hospital, he was suffering from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago. I decided to focus on him instead of the game.

I'll be back later tonight, I'm very tired and in a cranky mood right now.

Hope he's ok and gets well soon.

Please claim when you come back.

Thanks. Claim is above.

[Klingoncelt]

Funny thing, as Scum I usually fly under the radar for several Days.

Is this not how you would characterize your first 10-ish posts of the game?

I was distracted by the R/L situation.

Lame stock/fluff reads on other players' posts followed by a bad vote come from Scum, not Town.

It could be coming from lost/inexperienced/bad Town too. Do you have other reasons for suspecting Zakk besides this?[/quote]

Actually no. I'm going to do a somewhat comprehensive read on everyone in a few minutes. Maybe I'll change my mind.

She didn't mention being on V/LA until her last post, but I saw she had a V/LA status active since the game started (or at least very early on).

My son had to be rushed to the hospital, he was suffering from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago. I decided to focus on him instead of the game.

I'll be back later tonight, I'm very tired and in a cranky mood right now.

Alright, well, I guess that would explain why your reaction in 239 was so extreme. I'm sorry to hear that.[/quote]


Thanks. He's recovering now.

[Klingoncelt]

Fixing ^^^

[Klingoncelt]

In post 406, Klingoncelt wrote:
Funny thing, as Scum I usually fly under the radar for several Days.

In post 456, Skullduggery wrote:
Is this not how you would characterize your first 10-ish posts of the game?

I was distracted by the R/L situation.

In post 408, Klingoncelt wrote:
Lame stock/fluff reads on other players' posts followed by a bad vote come from Scum, not Town.

In post 456, Skullduggery wrote:
It could be coming from lost/inexperienced/bad Town too. Do you have other reasons for suspecting Zakk besides this?

Actually no. I'm going to do a somewhat comprehensive read on everyone in a few minutes. Maybe I'll change my mind.

Klingoncelt wrote:

My son had to be rushed to the hospital, he was suffering from the same thing that killed his wife 2 months ago. I decided to focus on him instead of the game.
I'll be back later tonight, I'm very tired and in a cranky mood right now.


Skullduggery wrote:


Alright, well, I guess that would explain why your reaction in 239 was so extreme. I'm sorry to hear that.

Thanks. He's recovering now.

[Klingoncelt]

Shit.

At least it's a little better now.

Drinking more coffee.

[Klingoncelt]

What if Klingon is still scum?

Still? I was never Scum to begin with.

I'm having serious doubts about you.

[Klingoncelt]

Thanks. Claim is above.

Who's your flavor character? I have reason to believe that flavor is important in this game.

Also, Klingon, when you get some free time, I'd like you to look over 387 and tell me your thoughts on it. If you're Town, I want you to try to convince me and explain why my suspicions are misplaced. Talk to me.

Honey.

I was watching the interactions between the Neighbors. Post 18 Queen says:
"*yawn*

VOTE: Fire bringer

serious vote."

Firebtringer OMGUS votes in the very next post.

I've never seen neighbors do that ON THE FIRST PAGE ON D1 before. Animosity much?

24: "Firebringer should, actually die, though. Or, give me what I want..."

36: "Scum: Firebringer, BP"

Why the vote on him? "he's being rude, as well as avoiding me." 47

54 Firebringer OMGUSes again.

70: "firebringer is a special person, and I want interact with him the most."

Now all this and then some is before they outed as Neighbors. Clearly they are not getting along. I've seen TvT fights, but this looks more like TvS. Problem is that they're both so bad I can't tell which is Town and which is Scum.

Unless they're both Scum trying to distance early...


As for my vote on Zakk, here's what he had to say about me:
"pops in for the first time almost 4 pages in. no random vote. clearly read the whole thread before posting. reacts to sole vote on self, before anything else. picks something to talk about which is game-related, but puts no original thought into the game... every single one of these things is scummy."

I come online late in the day and during the night. Look at my fucking timestamps in every game I'm in.

4 pages in, there's no point in Random Voting.

I NEVER read the whole thread before posting. I reply to posts as I come to them, because the entirety of the day's traffic is there, I've seen as many as 25 pages. I'm not going through all that twice.

"picks something to talk about which is game-related, but puts no original thought into the game..."

But I'm the only one that gets singled out for the Fire/Queen thing. Because sheeping. Who was I sheeping?


Zakk is trying to hard to create an illusion about me. (I'll bet he has a friend in a Neighborhood...)

He needs to die.

[Klingoncelt]

I have never been a fan of vanilla claims in any game especially one that is suppose to be a bastard game, so I am willing to hammer. What else do you guys want to talk about?

well we COULD talk about how amateurish this klingon lynch is, how many scum are in [pokerface, skull, and zakk],

This.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTECOUNT 1.07

Klingoncelt (5):

zakk, Drama Queens, Skullduggery, Alchemist21, Oversoul (Note: BP adds his vote in a few posts later)[/b]

Pokerface (3): Heartless, Xtoxm, Elbirn
Firebringer (2): Pokerface, Yukari
zakk (1): Klingoncelt
Xtoxm (1): Firebringer

Not Voting (1): BP

With 13 Alive, it takes

7

to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-21 19:55:00)

SO, EIGHT FUCKING DAYS UNTIL DEADLINE AND I'M AT L-1??? Scum galore on that wagon.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not sure I believe Klingon's role because this is a bastard game. That would seem really unfortunate. Could she be the token vanilla role?

Trying to sort the VTs from the PRs?

Why yes, yes you are.

[Klingoncelt]

Complaining about your wagon size in relation to the deadline proximity is pretty irrelevant though.

It's never too early to lynch scum.

Says the Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

Reminder to myself, and for anyone who likes meta, a Klingon scum game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Oh yeah, I forgot this little gem. Should I put it in my sig?

Spoiler:

FUCK ALL OF YOU. IN THE EYE. WITH A MANGY, SORE-COVERED, FLEA-INFESTED, GIANT SIZED SEWER RAT THAT'S INFECTED WITH FIRE AIDS.

[Klingoncelt]

Complaining about your wagon size in relation to the deadline proximity is pretty irrelevant though.

It's never too early to lynch scum.

Says the Scum.

Sorry, thought you were V/LA... mind telling me why you're up this late?

But really though, if you're town... why should I not be voting you?

I'm a night person. I've been doing this since I was a baby.

I'm Town. Why the hell should you even consider voting me?

[Klingoncelt]

Can I get the Cliff's notes please?

Here's all you need to know:

My playstyle is such that I'm all things to all people, a Klingon for all seasons. None of it has shit to do with my alignment.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon, if you're Vt, who is your character?
Also, Firebird, PokerFace is VLA

I already said: Honey. Honey is the character.

(I didn't watch the series, btw.)

[Klingoncelt]

Complaining about your wagon size in relation to the deadline proximity is pretty irrelevant though.

It's never too early to lynch scum.

Says the Scum.

Sorry, thought you were V/LA... mind telling me why you're up this late?

But really though, if you're town... why should I not be voting you?

I'm a night person. I've been doing this since I was a baby.

I'm Town. Why the hell should you even consider voting me?

respond to my corrected version, please

Can't you read?

I'm a night person and you should never vote for Town.

[Klingoncelt]

here let me help you out:

*if you're town... [please tell me] why I should not be voting you?

Why shouldn't you be voting me?

BECAUSE I'M FUKKIN' TOWN.





Perhaps something is getting lost in the ESL thing. Try rephrasing your question.

In the meantime, explain how you can't possibly be Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

I feel less strongly about Elbirn town. He is moving his vote around a lot.

that's as good a sign as any that someone is town, to me

scum has more reason to want to be "consistent"

Not so much in my eyes. Voteparking and jumping around are both nulltells in and of themselves.

Analyze their choices. Is the jumping around following popular wagons? Is the votepark on someone that will certainly not be lynched, like a Scumbuddy?

I'm going to ISO Elbirn.

[Klingoncelt]

Watching the interaction between Fire and the DQ.

And?

I'm having a hard time deciding which is Town and which is Scum.

It almost looks like Scum trying to distance.

When have you seen scum try to distance that way before?

I might have missed it, but since you claimed it again last night I'm guessing you haven't, but could you answer this question, please and thank you!

Read this and the next few pages:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=175

And how it played out in the game (start with post 1052, where Taly has us figured out before the Cop's flip):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1050

[Klingoncelt]

also the fact that I havn't scum-slipped in the neighborhood confirms me as town justsayin

You can't be serious.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon - I hope everything is all right with your family.

Thank you, he's doing much better now!

[Klingoncelt]

Nah she's town, I believe she's Honey.

Say what they will about me, but I always spot a bitch, Klingoncelt!

???

Rude

Meh. I'm a R/L bitch, I can take it.

[Klingoncelt]

BP, will you explain any of your naked votes?

[Klingoncelt]

Not in my experience.

[Klingoncelt]

I thought I voted kling in one of my last two posts. Guess I got pre-ocupied looking for links to old threads instead. Thought people were unvoting solely for the vanilla claim and kinda got on a high horse there with some old views. Perhaps an old man should retire or at least try to learn better ways to scum hunt and stay with the times.

@kling,

who besides zakk do you think is scum and why?

@People on my wagon,

why exactly are you there? Some of you voted/wagoned without giving a lot of details and I want to know if you guys are genuine

Going through ISO's now. Reads list tonight.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm sorry for not stopping by. I was sure I posted here yesterday.

Anyway, today I'm looking at Zakk, DQ, Firebringer, and BP. Not in that order.

[Klingoncelt]

Do any of you guys know Zakk? Is this his normal Town play?

I ask because I like nothing that I see from him.

[Klingoncelt]

my games are easily meta-able

they're all town tho

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=62088
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31925
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61890
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31203

There are also ones not listed but that should be enough for now

It's kinda comical that I have no scum meta yet. hahahahaha
I do have a meta of getting mislynched a decent amount tho

meanwhile. non-game-related. klingon. how are your personal life problems going?
i remember hearing about them either here or somewhere else. is everyone doing alright?
wishing and hoping for the best for you and yours.

Thanks for the links. I'll run through 'em directly.

RL is still a boatload of bad juju, but I think it's leveling off, it looks like everyone's recovering. I really appreciate your concern, the good vibes do a great deal of good. Thanks.

[Klingoncelt]

It's possible we made a huge mistake last night.

How so?

[Klingoncelt]

Umm yeah, I didn't even know I was in neighberhood, I didn't read full role card lol. Host had to pm me to remind me.

Host?

Firebringer (and some others) come from SC2Mafia. The terminology is a bit different, over there mods are called hosts.

Just to clarify.

[Klingoncelt]

Are you even paying attention to the game?

Yes, actually. More than you think.

Anyway, my reads:

Town:
Alchemist21
Drama Queens
Oversoul
Yukari

Null:
Firebringer
Skullduggery
Xtoxm

Scum:
BP
Elbirn
zakk


Discuss.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, Zakk, this vote puts you at L-1.

Please claim.

VOTE: zakk

[Klingoncelt]

also with people who have abilities to make a lynch happen with one less vote?

Good point there.

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: BP

[Klingoncelt]

"Seems we're facing annihilation once again..."

-Doctor Gel

"Dust in the solar wind, sir."

-Bea

VOTECOUNT 2.03

Zakk (4):

Elbirn, Alchemist21, Skullduggery, Oversoul

BP (2):

Xtoxm, Firebringer

Not Voting (5):

Klingoncelt, Yukari, zakk, BP, Drama Queens

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch.

Deadline for Day 2 is:

(expired on 2015-08-02 02:10:00)

A moon-sized disco-ball lit up the horizon like a star. Music swept through the valleys of and over the oceans of local planets.
A feverish sensation swept over the people and then... they started to dance .

--------------------------^---------------------------------
I missed the secret dot the first time around...

Does it mean anything?

url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFF3fzV--c

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon, why did you omit the neighborhood part of your claim when you made it?

What do you mean?

I'm not firing on all the cylinders here, I don't quite get the question. Could you link the post, please?

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Elbirn

[Klingoncelt]

BACK IN THE 90'S I WAS IN A VERY FAMOUS TV SHOW

Which TV show and who was your character?

Aww, just making a reference to Bojack Horseman.
I did work on NBA Jam: On Fire Edition, though.

[Klingoncelt]

Why all the naked votes, Klingon?

IIRC I've asked you several questions that you never answered. I owe you no explanation other than I think you're Scum.

I'm not sold on your claim, I think it's fake. However, on the 1% chance that it's real, I switched my vote to another Scumspect. Pay attention.

[Klingoncelt]

It seems like a noob mistake or too easy but maybe it is Klingoncelt.

VOTE: Kilingoncelt

YOLO

I'm Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Goodbye Moonman.

Lawl, these quotes from the show,

Yeah, for a minute there I thought he was gonna modkill someone.

[Klingoncelt]

So

I'm Space dandy. I'm in the aloha oe neoghborhood with skull and bp.

Bp is some how also space dandy? We think he's the chameleolian, either way he confirmed has the same role pm as me. When we both claimed it we went at each others throats for a bit, but then he was smart and crumbled a bit of our role pm...and then I crumbed a bit more. And so on, back and forth, until it was apparent that yes we are both dandy and we have the same role card and are both therefore town.

So bp is town.

I was actually a 1 shot vig 1 shot cop. I used my cop on klingon. Klingon is innocent.

Toodles

Thanks.

Sorry that I voted for you...

Can I UNVOTE: ?

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

@DramaQueens

:

I am not in any neighborhood.

DQ, why did you visit Oversoul last night?

I'm a Watcher. I saw you there.

[Klingoncelt]

Wait, so BP apparantly doesn't know he's not really Dandy?

Tch, makes sense given everything going on I suppose.

I may as well fullclaim.

I have a Day Ability that can tell me how many abilities a player has. PT access and the ability to Nightkill are counted as individual abilities, so scum would have at least 2. I investigated Oversoul yesterday and saw he only has 1 ability. I tried to investigate BP today and the ability failed.

Interesting ability. I'm not familiar with it, what causes it to fail?

[Klingoncelt]

... the fact that elbirn is claiming a one-shot cop on klingon and accepting it and apparently so is she without any questions, is really concerning.

If someone says I'm Town, of course I'll accept it. I am Town.

Keep in mind that I claimed before Elbirn said anything.

[Klingoncelt]

I claimed in the neighborhood. I am Adelie.

How did Firebringer know that you were Adelie?

Firebringer is in that neighborhood. Metal Sonic/(Drama Queens) is a Neighborizer and brought Oversoul in.

I am a Watcher, I saw DQ visit Oversoul.

[Klingoncelt]

@ everyone
At any time during this game, for whatever reason, have you told any lies?

Our definition of a lie:
Intentional untruth meant to deceive.

No.

Why do you ask?

And do you think everyone will answer honestly? Or at all?

[Klingoncelt]

At this point I don't know what to think...

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah, I could do a Yukari vote now that I think about it. They were super sketchy with their sabotage/day vig situation.

Yukari was the first to quote the "heroes" alignment from the Role PMs. They're Town.

(The "heroes" thing is what got PokerFace lynched.)

Don't vote Yukari.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh, wait, they could have been quoting the sample PM in post 0.

[Klingoncelt]

@BP
@Elbirn
@Skullduggery -

Did Heartless say anything about their role in the neighborhood?

[Klingoncelt]

@BP
@Elbirn
@Skullduggery -

Did Heartless say anything about their role in the neighborhood?

*corrected

[Klingoncelt]

I just can't shake the feeling that he's Scum.

VOTE: zakk

[Klingoncelt]

You're under the sun and I'm under a raging moon. Pretty strong case, no?

[Klingoncelt]

King might be scum too not sold on his claim it was obvious we recruited over soul

No opinion on over soul

No, I did not say anything about Oversoul being recruited.

I said Oversoul was visited by DQ.

When I asked why, DQ revealed themselves as Neighborizer.

There was no indication that Oversoul was recruited prior to my asking.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, let me get this straight:

Town has a Cop, Elbirn
Town has a Rolecop, Alchemist
Town has a Watcher, me
Town

had

a Flavor Cop, Heartless...

Really?????

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, let me get this straight:

Town has a Cop, Elbirn
Town has a Rolecop, Alchemist
Town has a Watcher, me
Town

had

a Flavor Cop, Heartless...

Really?????

Alchemist did not claim to be Rolecop. That was speculation on me/Skull's part.

...

That still has Town ridiculously overpowered, especially if BP is identical to Elbirn.

[Klingoncelt]

You know better than that.

VOTE: Alchemist21

[Klingoncelt]

Yup. This is strengthening my idea of a skull/xtoxm scumteam.

Skull may actually be Town, but I'm pretty damn convinced xtoxm is scum.

Everyone who's not voting xtoxm right now needs to either explain why or move their vote to him.

B-but I'd rather lynch you...

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Zakk

[Klingoncelt]

Honey, watcher.

We need to wait for result claims then I want alchemists head..

I have no results. I think I was roleblocked.

[Klingoncelt]

Kling, why didn't you mention PokerFace at all while he was alive?

I didn't mention several players.

I was focused mainly on Drama Queens/Firebringer interactions, you, Zakk, and PB.

I was V/LA for a while on D1 too, that was when my son was in the hospital with the same MRSA that killed my daughter-in-law.

R/L prevents me from focusing as much as I'd like.

[Klingoncelt]

Honey, watcher.

We need to wait for result claims then I want alchemists head..

I have no results. I think I was roleblocked.

Who did you try to watch?

Elbirn.

[Klingoncelt]

Rick and Morty Large Theme. May or may not have bastard mechanics, really depends on a few factors.
Varsoon Mafia II. Definitely going to be a bastard game. Don't know when I'll run it, but it'll happen eventually.
Heroes of Might and Magic Upick. Considering running this one once my schedule frees up. 13 players, non-bastard, based on Heroes of Might and Magic.
Final Fantasy: The Zodiac Brave Story. I really want to run a 13 player game based in FFTactics theme. One day, one day.
Space Dandy Mafia II. Expect it to be Dandy, and likely bastard.

I'd like to pre-in for these 5, please.

[Klingoncelt]

Uhm... I gotta be honest Zack you made me really salty with the "destroy everyone's abilities for a day" thing

Yeah, I'm pissed about that too.

Zakk, use more discretion next game.

[Klingoncelt]

Sick of being always seen as scum when I'm town

Bit of advice: Be in the game, but don't BE the game. Don't post too much, don't act like you know more than Town (or the rest of Town, as it were.)

[Klingoncelt]

Damn, Xtoxi, you really, really, super really wanted me dead! Wow!

[Klingoncelt]

Know what sucks? I knew last night that Firebringer and Xtoxm were Scum.


Giving the dance power to Zakk and all the extra votes to Xtoxi unbalanced it.

[Klingoncelt]

no more varsoon games for me

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varsoon's a good guy, honest!!!!!!!!!

[Klingoncelt]

he might be, but this setup was a fucking bomb. this game was over before it started.

seriously, if you could find a scumteam that would lose w/ power like that, i would be impressed.

I can link you to a game on another site that lasted not quite 3 pages.

Unbalanced happens in a lot of games once they get going, bastard or normal. It all depends on who gets killed early on, and the lynches & kills depend on how clever the players are.

So we lost this game big time. I'll get over it. The flavor was awesome, the players were cool, I'd love to do this again.