Anyway! It's good to see you again too, Blankface, but I have another friend I've owed for a long time now.
VOTE: Penguin_Alien
And so my plan to aggressively mislynch you begins. I bet you'll never see my revenge coming.
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In post 180, LicketyQuickety wrote:@Vyse, you have not posted in quite a while and have really said anything.
What are your thoughts on grapes?
In post 186, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 42, Morning Sun wrote:In post 24, VysePresident wrote:Just an FYI, I'm a little busy for the next couple of days. ...
It's good to see you again too, Blankface, but I have another friend I've owed for a long time now.
VOTE: Penguin_Alien[/v ]
And so my plan to aggressively mislynch you begins.I bet you'll never see my revenge coming.
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Is this a slipp??!
I'm wondering the same thing.
In post 305, penguin_alien wrote:In post 274, VysePresident wrote:@Penguin - I'm curious, what are your thoughts on Suzune now? Thoughts in general?
Town read right now. Her content was fine, what was pinging was more tone. In general, that this game isn't very readable for me so far; having trouble following so many people I haven't played with much/at all.
Firebringer feels townish, you seem town so far from what I'm remembering of your play/your analysis here. BlankFace has good content.
I don't get a good vibe off Morning Sun, and I can't bring myself to town-read Klingoncelt. The reactions seem town, but not in a genuine way? Might just not be on his wavelength. I think I played a game with scum-grapes right before fading out, and he doesn't remind me of that, but he also might have changed a lot in the past year.
Too tired to come up with conversation starters. Maybe tomorrow.
In post 309, Klingoncelt wrote:Whaddya know, I finally have my first scumread, the weirdly aggro LQ.
Are you and Grapes buddies. then?
VOTE: Lickety
In post 325, Elbirn wrote:So if you'd all humor me, take a look at Klingons iso.
Done? Okay.
It's crap. Her first like 20 posts are fluff, casually throwing shade on a few players in a few instances, and she doesn't even take a stance on anyone until her 22nd post
Elbirn wrote:In post 209, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 200, Firebringer wrote:In post 199, Klingoncelt wrote:Guys, I'm really sick tonight. I can't focus on the game. I'll try again tomorrow.
Hope you feel better Klingon ;(
Even though my gut says you are scum.
@Marcell you just seem 'there' if you know what I mean? Like you are here but kind of in shadows a bit, not noticeable not drawing that much attention. Seems like what scum would do with all these seemingly TvTs going on.
*sigh* I am so tired of being scumread early in the game. How many times do people have to see my Town (or in this case Human) flip before they figure out that I'm not Scum in every damn game I play? It's depressing and demotivating.
Unimpressive ate..
Elbirn wrote:In post 211, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm not getting any solid reads right yet, everyone ranges between probable Town(Human) and leaning Human.
I do need to hear more from ShadedMelee and Marcrell.
I'm going to say something right now. All summer long every game I've been in was p to some degree by players signing up then abandoning their slot after a couple of posts, Town & Scum alike. Unless there's a R/L emergency, I'm voting to lynch all replace-outs' slots.
Still has no reads. Still doing ate. Sets up for justifying lynching replace outs which is the laziest and crappiest thing I've heard
Elbirn wrote:In post 286, Klingoncelt wrote:In post 285, LicketyQuickety wrote:I don't like the Marcrell wagon right now if for nothing else, its just way too easy. There is no one really to speak of that is defending him. If he is scum, I would think it would be an easy lynch and/or he would replace out so that is what I am looking for. But this early in the game I just can't see that Marcrell is scum at this point. I suggest we find a new wagon because I think Marcrell is going to end up making his team look guilty the longer he's in the game as scum.
I'm not sure if Marcrell's Scum. In fact, due to meta, he's leaning Town for me. I've been in a couple games with him, both of us were Scum, all he did was make a couple vanity posts then he flaked. He's way more active in this game, that has him leaning Town for me.
This is her first read. It took nearly 300 posts to get a read out of her and it's pretty weak sauce.
Elbirn wrote:In post 287, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm having a hell of a time getting reads this game.
I don't know BlankFace, Grapes, Penguin_alien, ShadedMelee, or VysePresident.
I have trouble reading Firebringer and Elbirn.
The Morning Sun hydra, I'm not familiar with Gameplay/Umbreon, and Salamence seems subdued.
That leaves the Empoleon Bellapatre hydra, LicketyQuickety, Marcrell, and Suzune, and I have leaning to strong Town reads on them.
*sigh*
Look she rules out reading 5 people based on not having played with them, dismisses 3 more on "idk how to read them", and then throws out 4 townreads for everyone she eliminated and with no reason.
Elbirn wrote:
In post 288, Klingoncelt wrote:Oh, Elbirn, Firebringer, Grapes, you guys can vote for someone else now. I'm Town.
More ate
Elbirn wrote:In post 309, Klingoncelt wrote:Whaddya know, I finally have my first scumread, the weirdly aggro LQ.
Are you and Grapes buddies. then?
VOTE: Lickety
This is just straight up omgus, there's nothing else to this.
In post 347, LicketyQuickety wrote:@Vyce, Don't get the meta shift. Could you explain that a bit?
In post 348, LicketyQuickety wrote:BTW I had you at null and now Ireallyhave you at null. I don't get why you are not voting Marcrell.
In post 374, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 357, VysePresident wrote:In post 347, LicketyQuickety wrote:@Vyce, Don't get the meta shift. Could you explain that a bit?
In post 348, LicketyQuickety wrote:BTW I had you at null and now Ireallyhave you at null. I don't get why you are not voting Marcrell.
Sorry, what? I don't understand what you mean by 'meta shift'?
I'm feeling a lot more strongly about Elbirn. Marcrell could go either way, while I'm pretty confident Elbirn is scum.
Your tone was 10X more assertive than what you were doing previously. The fact that you are representing that you haven't observed this is really off putting.
Elb is playing way more pro-town than marcrell is, so I don't know why you are on the fence about him and are scumreading elb so hard :/
In post 368, Suzune wrote:That would be disappointing to lose Morning Sun.
Vyse, I can explain what I mean. I actually went back and read it while I was half asleep and I had the same opinion. You posted five times on page thirteen. Therefore that is the post my comments are directed at.
Let's break it down post by post. post 313 This post is just an all about me and my playing style post. It does not advance the game nor would it solidify anyone's reads or at least not my own. Everyone in this game is wait and seeing things and instead the most you have given us is your reads in 273, which are nice, but this post goes no where.
post 314 In this post you comment on someone else not using conversation starters, but you also choose not to start a conversation with Melee either.
post 315 This one is better as it leaves hanging questions.
Then you double vote. One wonders why you voted for Fire in the start if you were just going to change it back to your main target. Perhaps because you wanted to remind him he was not safe?
post 320 You say you want to see more from them. But you do not engage. So it is hard to understand why you would leave it hanging like that.
These posts are just not full to me. They are light. You say you want people to do something and then don't do it yourself. Or you say to want something but don't engage. They strike me as kind of fluffy then and unimpressive. My opinion on the matter.
In post 410, VysePresident wrote:320 came on the heels of a giant post pushing to lynch Elbirn. I'm pretty sure that ought to engage his attention, y'know. I'd rather see what points interest him than push him in any particular direction.
In post 408, Morning Sun wrote:In post 368, Suzune wrote:That would be disappointing to lose Morning Sun.
Laughing. Oh ok getting back to reading
Pedit: Yes Vyse you are now def town together with LQ imo. Also I am feeling the same way for Elb, especially since I don't see scumKling right now.
In post 49, Firebringer wrote:Ohhh, thats a scum duo lol.
I don't know if I should be scared or reassured. If you are scum it should be easy to figure out, if you are town you will look just enough scummy to look town (That make sense?)
In post 67, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 66, Suzune wrote:One need not change their meta, just make it so you interpret it differently. It is more common then you seem to think. I sometimes feel like we are on two different pages~In post 65, LicketyQuickety wrote:I think you underestimate how difficult it is to change ones meta.
Out of curiosity what do you hope to gain by asking who we have played with? The information to me seems kind of irrelevant because our previous performances with each other do little to affect our current alignment. However, the positive yield is that we are all discussing.
People can change their behavior, but they cannot change who they are. Do you understand that?
In post 7, Elbirn wrote:In post 0, Varsoon wrote:
Occam's Razor:"I don't want to overthink this game but I want to be justified for taking the path of least resistance."
WIFOM:"I can't accurately assess if you're rusing me or not."
IIOA:"Nice points but I'd like to disregard them."
Meta:"Because you've played other games on site, I want to add perceived validity to whatever my point is."
It's like you're me.
In post 679, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 677, VysePresident wrote:Can you show me a couple of his Town/Scum games, just so I can get a feel for him? (This offer is obviously open to Elbirn too.)
Like, I don't know. My read on Blankface last game was similar, and backfired hard, but at the same time, there's kinda a lot here.
How are you still a goon? Also I think it would be a really good idea for you to start a wiki on yourself. I might just be doing on for you if after this game I feel you impressed me in some way.
In post 751, BlankFace wrote:I've given my thoughts on LQ. He's town as hell. He's my top town. Find me one post you don't find genuine and I'll revise that. I'll try to ISO the others later tonight/tomorrow. I have to throw together a Pathfinder game in 8 minutes right now.
In post 725, Empoleon Bellaparte wrote:I think it was...fire who said he'd never played flipless before? I've never played flip OR nightless, so I am at a bit of a loss rn...I'm almost tempted to vote BF :s
Who has played nightless/flipless before?
Suz, i think you are working towards ideas, but I don't know if that fully works - how many scum do you think were gonna be on that wagon, as we know there are 2 lots. Also, in terms of the tapes...what were you thinking?
People I could still lynch: BF, Kling, Marc. Remember that SM was kinda the counter lynch to the last two...
In post 835, VysePresident wrote:Oi vey.
So, I'm going to try & finish those long-promised reads tonight, or just accept that I can't play Mafia anymore & replace out, and avoid MS for the long term.
That said, I have to ask, does anyone else think my case on Elb boils down to 'buzzwords' still? Because I kinda want to hit him for misrepresenting my case on him, after repeated explanatinos to the contrary, but things have been bad enough this game I kinda want to check first.
Also, Elb, I'd love to hear why I'm on your non-Town list please. TY. LQ's isn't great, but at least a reason.
In post 861, Elbirn wrote:In post 854, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 853, VysePresident wrote:You up for chatting later tonight? I kinda wanted to work your slot out anyway, and it'd be nice to engage with somebody in the internim.
You do realize how this looks like a scum slip right?
...I mean. It does seem kinda out of place the way it's not clear who's being talked to. But you'd have to be really thick to slip out of your pt and vyse seems like he's smarter than that.
In post 879, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 874, VysePresident wrote:If you don't mind me butting in with my two cents, assuming you're Town, if you'd just stop getting lost in wild theory tangents, and played a more steady, solid game, I think you'd improve rapidly, and maybe even get to the top tier. Just my opinion, off the top of my tired brain.
If you really feel this way and are not doing it as scum manipulating mah feels then we can talk about a hydra after the game. How does that sound?
BTW this post was like 95% IIoA. I know people don't like that term because it usually amounts to nothing, but really, from what I understand about IIoA it means all you're doing is giving a rundown of what happened for some quick towncred as scum. I've seen it Twice used flawlessly as scum and was fooled so bad one of those times that it made me look like I was tripping over my own tied shoelaces. So yes, at this point its something I watch.