Mini 1724: Gameboy Advance Mafia (Abandoned)

Xtoxm · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:11 am

awesome

Xtoxm · Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:14 am

That reminds me, a new avatar is in order for this game.

Xtoxm · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:16 am

Who wants to be sucked?

Xtoxm · Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:18 pm

Shall we massclaim?

Xtoxm · Post Post #68 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:37 am

Fonic?

Neither google nor the wiki seem to know what that word means.

Xtoxm · Post Post #74 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:37 am

In post 71, Nosferatu wrote:are we actually claiming or bullshitting for keks

We're dead serious.

I'm Eagle, commuter and 1 shot double lynch enabler. I'm interested in thoughts on when he best time to use this ability would be.

Your turn.

Xtoxm · Post Post #76 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:40 am

Green Earth CO from Advance Wars.

Xtoxm · Post Post #77 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:41 am

Massclaims are underrated, Dav. Lots of games can be solved with a D1 massclaim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #81 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:35 am

Dumping this here for ease of reference.

Spoiler:

Xtoxm · Post Post #82 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:37 am

VOTE: AJ

Those refusing to participate are probably scum and we should bully them until they do.

Xtoxm · Post Post #88 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:40 pm

You just claimed a primary antagonist with some very scummy abilities. I like that. You're town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #100 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:18 pm

People always say it's a terrible idea. D1 massclaim would have broken my previous 3 completed games on this site. Scum won two of those games as a result of town taking too long to massclaim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #140 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:38 pm

Go away then. You've already lurked out half the deadline.

VOTE: Knuckles

Xtoxm · Post Post #167 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:06 am

ASP has been useless but so has half the game. It's like people sign up with no interest in playing.

Xtoxm · Post Post #175 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:29 am

Finally.

VOTE: unvote

Are you aware we have like 2 days til deadline?

Xtoxm · Post Post #189 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:46 am

In post 180, Knuckles wrote:
In post 175, Xtoxm wrote:Finally.

VOTE: unvote

Are you aware we have like 2 days til deadline?

Two and a half, which is plenty. I've caught scum in a fourth of that time without any pants on.
What do you think of my reads and in particular the hard town crew?

Well, idk i've like Vedith so far and though AJ is frustrating i'm not particularly feeling like his push on me is coming from a scum place? He's championed votes on me the loudest, i'd look more at one of the sheepers in Starbuck/ASP.

I like Dav, but I don't see why random/dong are hard town.

My early scum pool choices would be Star, ASP, Pepto and maybe SOS.

Xtoxm · Post Post #191 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:48 am

In post 184, Knuckles wrote:
In post 175, Xtoxm wrote:Finally.

VOTE: unvote

Are you aware we have like 2 days til deadline?

Are you gonna enable double day or what? Do we get a deadline extension?

Ok so before this bites me in the ass, I may have made up every part of my roleclaim, the massclaim idea was more to try and get discussion rolling cus we seemed to be stalled in RVS - I'm not actually sure if anyone has claimed truthfully?

Xtoxm · Post Post #205 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:58 am

In post 194, Knuckles wrote:
In post 189, Xtoxm wrote:Well, idk i've like Vedith so far and though AJ is frustrating i'm not particularly feeling like his push on me is coming from a scum place? He's championed votes on me the loudest, i'd look more at one of the sheepers in Starbuck/ASP.

ASP I'll be fairly confident is town if he answers one more question correctly. Vedith has done literally nothing townish except for sheep the top wagon, why are you town reading him? AJ is loud but that doesn't make him town.

Vedith has felt like one of the more proactive players, I liked his response to my wagon, his pressure on you and his #168.

Xtoxm · Post Post #207 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:00 am

This game is beginning to become the exciting experience I had hoped for. I have some fun plans formulating with Nacho's ability in mind.

Xtoxm · Post Post #209 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:01 am

In post 203, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 147, Davsto wrote:
In post 142, Aj The Epic wrote:Xtoxm and Vedith riding the easy wagon to lynching.

QFT

In post 154, Davsto wrote:
In post 152, Starbuck wrote:Davsto's 110 and 112 feel slighty white-knighty to me. First, he says that he dislikes the way Xtoxm went about conducting the massclaim and sticks to a scumlean. Then he distances himself from that by saying that he sees the votes on Xtoxm as an easy and scum-driven wagon.

So which is it, Davsto? Are the folks voting for Xtoxm scummy or is Xtoxm, himself, scummy?

Both can be scummy at once.

The thing itself was scummy - yes - but not scummy enough for me to vote. The fact that people jumped on it and went "so scummy" reads as opportunism over genuine, to an extent.

Look at all these people davesto is willing to lynch.

What, 4 people? In a game where 3 are scum? If anything, an expansion is in order.

Xtoxm · Post Post #211 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:03 am

Purging of lurkers is something that I always support.

Xtoxm · Post Post #215 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:06 am

In post 151, Vedith wrote:Just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean I think scum.

This bit. I mean, i'm not exactly attached to my reads yet, I feel like most people haven't done much of anything, and he's one of the more active players.

Xtoxm · Post Post #217 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:09 am

In post 213, Knuckles wrote:
In post 211, Xtoxm wrote:Purging of lurkers is something that I always support.

Like which ones?

Like you until 30mins ago, like ASP.

Xtoxm · Post Post #316 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:31 am

In post 293, Knuckles wrote:
In post 284, Sound of Silence wrote:In post 25 he sounded ambivalent about the idea of role claiming. Then it looked to me like he was the first player to srsclaim a few posts later.

What do you think of my Nosferatu point?
I don't mind the early ambivalence because it read less like he was genuinely conflicted and more like he just didn't give a shit.

I could see a couple of his posts re:massclaim being in a 'please believe me' kind of way, but generally don't feel like he'd have claimed what he did as scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #320 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:33 am

In post 299, Vedith wrote:
In post 297, Knuckles wrote:
In post 291, Knuckles wrote:
In post 289, Aj The Epic wrote:Knuckles what are you seeing in davesto?

Vigilante claim.

AJ, is there something wrong with this position?
Can you tell me why he claims vigilante as scum?

So we are going with a town dayvig and a town vigilante?
And we are going with Random actually being BP? (Which he isn't)

Nacho sounds serious, it's only one shot, I see no reason to disregard the possibility that both exist as town. I don't know if Dav's claim was real, but if it was it's quite provable. I like him for town either way.

Xtoxm · Post Post #324 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:37 am

The assumption i'm working from is that we each have 1 of the 13 listed games, and scum are intended to fakeclaim as anyone from their game (or not, we don't know yet if scum have actual antagonist flavours).

Xtoxm · Post Post #326 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:40 am

You show me yours i'll show you mine

Xtoxm · Post Post #331 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:45 am

Is this your way of saying your game is advance wars?

191

Xtoxm · Post Post #334 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:48 am

Mostly wanted to see how people reacted to that; expected to be game counterclaimed, it hasn't happened.

I don't why you are unwilling to claim anything at all?

Xtoxm · Post Post #338 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:53 am

dis gon be gud

Xtoxm · Post Post #341 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:55 am

wguerts probs asleep? rip.

Xtoxm · Post Post #352 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:40 pm

Why not respond to his threats if you are town? Why would you strip abilities that sound very likely to be town? Other than the 'actually hit scum' part what you've just done looks VERY scummy.

Xtoxm · Post Post #358 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:09 pm

grapes bud why you gone quiet?

Come out and play!

Xtoxm · Post Post #363 (isolation #33) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:00 pm

looks much better now

Xtoxm · Post Post #368 (isolation #34) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:09 pm

Xtoxm · Post Post #369 (isolation #35) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:09 pm

VOTE: Starbuck

Xtoxm · Post Post #370 (isolation #36) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:24 pm

Seriously though, 2 days, let's get a wagon going.

Xtoxm · Post Post #377 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:12 am

Starbuck's latest isn't terrible. ASP would be a fine alternative.

Vedith, I don't think that necessarily BP and BP distributor are on opposing teams. It already looks like we have a fair bit of ability duplication in this setup. And especially now seeing Nos treated the massclaim seriously, and was town, i'm feeling scum are far more likely to lie amongst those who were opposed to claiming.

Nacho, do you have other abilities than your bomb? Details are not required, just a simple yes/no.

Xtoxm · Post Post #379 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:23 am

How can you be sure he is lying? Ganon being bulletproof makes complete flavour sense, we've just seen kefka flip town, and the way he claimed looks pretty genuine imo.

Xtoxm · Post Post #398 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:27 pm

With 24h~ to go and the number of people not participating in this game, i'm not sure a lynch other than ASP is even achievable right now.

Xtoxm · Post Post #415 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:09 pm

She's towntelling. And she'll work with us.

I guess my preference now is ASP > Pepto > anyone else.

I hate people who sign up and don't play. I was hoping he'd flake out, but he's clearly planning to occupy the slot and do nothing. I feel like we have to purge this before we can play properly.

VOTE: ASP

pedit: Starbuck, I did something that I expected scum may jump on me for. You bit.

Xtoxm · Post Post #423 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:22 pm

In post 418, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 415, Xtoxm wrote:She's towntelling. And she'll work with us.

I guess my preference now is ASP > Pepto > anyone else.

I hate people who sign up and don't play. I was hoping he'd flake out, but he's clearly planning to occupy the slot and do nothing. I feel like we have to purge this before we can play properly.

VOTE: ASP

pedit: Starbuck, I did something that I expected scum may jump on me for. You bit.

What specifically did you consider a towntell?

It's her first game back from a hiatus, and she's responded to being wagoned with apathy. I'm liking much in her recent posts, tbh.

Pedit: Your rhetoric is boring. Fuck off.

Xtoxm · Post Post #432 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:49 pm

No one should be not voting at this point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #435 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:52 pm

Xtoxm · Post Post #437 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:07 pm

Lack of role reveal suggests revival is likely. Presumably, someone used an action that removes her from the day phase.

Xtoxm · Post Post #438 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:08 pm

Or could even be one of Starbuck's own abilities. We'll see if anyone claims this.

Xtoxm · Post Post #447 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:46 am

You gonna hammer this coin flip or what? Ducking it to manip the VCA?

Xtoxm · Post Post #499 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:08 am

uhhh

grapes/SOS/pepto?

those 3 should fullclaim today anyways

Xtoxm · Post Post #501 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:52 am

...

Vedith is bulletproof.

r u srs rn

Xtoxm · Post Post #510 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:15 am

You need to produce a body before lylo.

VOTE: SOS

Xtoxm · Post Post #512 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:20 am

He's probably town. This game has a billion killing roles.

Xtoxm · Post Post #514 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:29 am

If anything, the opposite. If scum has a BP-BP giver, then your ability is pretty useless.

Xtoxm · Post Post #515 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:32 am

We certainly need to leash these vests though and if they're not turning up in good places he should die.

Xtoxm · Post Post #519 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:38 am

They're doing too much drifting.

grapes is just gut/poe.

Pepto is entirely poe based on townreads of everyone and I don't really feel like another null lynch.

They all need to claim though.

Xtoxm · Post Post #520 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:38 am

uh it's possible but i don't really think he's played it like a 3rd party. and claiming vig off the bat is begging to be crosskilled.

Xtoxm · Post Post #521 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:45 am

btw town has a LOT of additional killing methods than the lynch, and i'm concerned scum possibly have a lylo accelerator to counter this.

Xtoxm · Post Post #538 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:19 am

hmmmmm

Vedith who did you give a vest to?

Xtoxm · Post Post #541 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:27 am

Vedith was #1 suspect of dong so it makes sense dong would RB him. im not sure this is what happened though. need to think about it.

Xtoxm · Post Post #545 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:30 am

dong was a lightning rod

Xtoxm · Post Post #547 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:32 am

i dont know. thats why i said i need to think about it.

Xtoxm · Post Post #549 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:48 am

this doesn't need to be resolved today. he's tied himself to a provable claim. he dies before lylo if he can't produce a body.

Xtoxm · Post Post #553 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:58 am

nacho.

back me up.

Xtoxm · Post Post #555 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:05 am

grapes what are your reads

Xtoxm · Post Post #592 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:18 pm

Vedith are you sure you would be informed if a vest was used? Can you check with the mod? My understanding is this site generally doesn't inform for vest usage.

Xtoxm · Post Post #595 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:34 pm

Ok. So there's definitely a problem with Dav's claim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #596 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:38 pm

Guess that brings us to Dav is lying vs scum have an RB.

Dav's play just makes so little sense as scum to me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #599 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:59 pm

RB would prevent targeting.

Xtoxm · Post Post #600 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:00 pm

The assumption being that the dong kill - redirected from Knuckles - is the scum kill.

Xtoxm · Post Post #606 (isolation #68) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:30 pm

No love for my SOS crusade? Why do people think she's town?

Xtoxm · Post Post #607 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:32 pm

In post 605, Vedith wrote:
In post 603, grapes wrote:hmm

VOTE: firebringer

his hope on to dave looks bad now, plus the "vedith or dave is scum" is fency as fuck

pedit: vedith plz stop being bad for 5 minutes

Coming from you?
You really think that we have a Dayvig and a strongman vig? If you're not scum trying to cover for your buddy then you're just stupid town.

Yes I think we have that. His play makes almost 0 sense as scum. Town has a dead ascetic vanilliser and loveriser, pretty scummy roles, town having strongman follows. I'm thinking scum probably have abilities that are typically town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #613 (isolation #70) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:42 pm

I decided Starbuck is likely town due to play at end of yesterday.

Fire is scum due to poe but I want something more to go on that just poe. He does need to fullclaim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #614 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:44 pm

In post 610, Vedith wrote:
In post 607, Xtoxm wrote:Yes I think we have that. His play makes almost 0 sense as scum. Town has a dead ascetic vanilliser and loveriser, pretty scummy roles, town having strongman follows. I'm thinking scum probably have abilities that are typically town.

His play makes 0 sense as town as well, so what's your point with that?
This is something that I can see Dav doing as scum.

It makes complete sense as town, though.

Xtoxm · Post Post #616 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:54 pm

Well idk about that stuff but the way he claimed is SO town. and why is he telling us about strongman if hes scum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #621 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:09 pm

In post 619, grapes wrote:
In post 616, Xtoxm wrote:Well idk about that stuff but the way he claimed is SO town. and why is he telling us about strongman if hes scum?

615 is about starbuck, i agree about dave

She's not one of my stronger reads but I have other interests right now.

Xtoxm · Post Post #624 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:13 pm

we already had a town RB in dong. yeh fire needs to fullclaim immediately

Xtoxm · Post Post #625 (isolation #75) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:17 pm

VOTE: Fire

Xtoxm · Post Post #627 (isolation #76) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:22 pm

btw Dav who is your flavour char?

Xtoxm · Post Post #631 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:37 am

can we get Dav off L-2 and then purge Fire

Xtoxm · Post Post #635 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:28 am

That is not a normal lynch wagon. We were faced with ASP lynch vs no lynch. Vedith's role requires him to be on the lynch wagon. Making assumptions about "scum have to be on the wagon" is not a good path to go down.

Xtoxm · Post Post #638 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:44 am

If he was scum, it would have been really easy for him to lurk the day out and leave us more likely to falter to a no lynch, or simply manipulate the VCA. We were sub 24h til deadline. No lynches benefit scum and when flash wagons pop up like that - even with the target having been town - each participant is individually more likely to be town due to the inherently pro-town intent behind avoiding a no lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #639 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:45 am

All this to say, ignore the VCA and scumhunt normally please.

Xtoxm · Post Post #640 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:48 am

Anyway, rn i'm really concerned about Fire and his bonus vote ability, of all the roles that should have been participating in yesterdays massclaim, if town, that ability is about top of the list and with the dayvig. So it's really concerning that Pepto kept it hidden, and like I said before, town has all these killing roles, probably because scum have a lylo accelerator we need to find.

Xtoxm · Post Post #663 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:47 am

Nacho stop lurking

Xtoxm · Post Post #664 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:21 am

If Dav shoots outside of the following group tonight it is a scumclaim: SOS, grapes, Starbuck

Xtoxm · Post Post #673 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:22 pm

According to VC we have 10.

Can't hurt to check though.

Mod: Is Starbuck still stumped?

Xtoxm · Post Post #702 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:58 am

In post 698, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah I'm tempted to say a reflector is a confirmed scum claim. Can redirect anything from him but NKs, and almost only shows up as a scum role.

This is a really silly assumption to make. You could say the exact same thing about ascetic vanilliser, and that flipped town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #707 (isolation #86) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:48 am

In post 703, Aj The Epic wrote:You're telling me a reflector, a role that solely makes it so that investigative/protective roles do not touch the user, is town? It's almost like a self-busser.

More importantly, nothing random has done demonstrates the role should be town.

Negative utility town roles exist.

What is his scum motivation for claiming reflector?

Random's openness looks pretty pro-town to me.

Regardless, do you think he's lying about being unlynchable? It's going to take 2 lynches, or 2 NKs, to get rid of him. Even if he's scum (which i'm doubting), there are other scum we could actually flip today, instead of what amounts to a no lynch.

Xtoxm · Post Post #708 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:51 am

I missed the gladiate part. That does seem like rather a lot of abilities for one role to have, and more than we've seen from anyone else so far.

Random: Please use your gladiate ability, now, on two good targets, to demonstrate that it exists.

Xtoxm · Post Post #709 (isolation #88) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:52 am

Tbh if he does have all these abilities it's pretty much got to be town cause that we be pretty broken as scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #712 (isolation #89) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:54 am

In post 710, Vedith wrote:
In post 707, Xtoxm wrote:Random's openness looks pretty pro-town to me.

Everyone that claims looks town to you.

Fire's claim doesn't look town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #713 (isolation #90) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:56 am

In post 711, Davsto wrote:
In post 707, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 703, Aj The Epic wrote:You're telling me a reflector, a role that solely makes it so that investigative/protective roles do not touch the user, is town? It's almost like a self-busser.

More importantly, nothing random has done demonstrates the role should be town.

Negative utility town roles exist.

What is his scum motivation for claiming reflector?

Random's openness looks pretty pro-town to me.
Yeh, three different, inconsistent claims, super open.

It's possible that he's scum, but I don't want to spend 2 days on him unless we're really sure he's scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #716 (isolation #91) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:00 am

1) "BP with some lynch abilities" transmuting to "1-shot BP 1-shot unlynchable and 1-shot gladiate" doesn't constitute an inconsistency in my book
2) I don't take a fakeclaim in RVS as a scumtell in itself (I lied and i'm town)

Xtoxm · Post Post #718 (isolation #92) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:03 am

Well yes if he's scum we're going to have to lynch him twice. But until i'm sure of that, that are people who can actually be flipped today.

On further thought, his role wouldn't be completely broken as scum due to the town vanilliser existing as a possible counter.

Xtoxm · Post Post #719 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:04 am

Ok i'm not completely opposed to this, but I do want to see him use his gladiate and I want to hear if Nacho's still townreading him.

Xtoxm · Post Post #720 (isolation #94) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:06 am

But i'd like to point out that Fire has a crappy claim, has done no scumhunting since replacing and his wagon fell apart for no real reason.

Xtoxm · Post Post #722 (isolation #95) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:08 am

I'm not saying randoms is fine.

Xtoxm · Post Post #723 (isolation #96) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:09 am

I was only saying random's is fine until I noticed the 4th ability

Xtoxm · Post Post #725 (isolation #97) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:12 am

It is kinda weird that it has immunity at all angles - we can't vig it, investigate it, or lynch it, without spending 2 cycles to do so -.-

Xtoxm · Post Post #739 (isolation #98) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:16 pm

can confirm aj is town

Xtoxm · Post Post #750 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:18 am

In post 746, Knuckles wrote:
In post 739, Xtoxm wrote:can confirm aj is town

Who is the last scum?

Not sure. I'll work it out later.

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:50 pm

Ok,even if the mod did make an error, and the claim is real.

Why is Fire town?

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 762, Firebringer wrote:I am sorry about being lazy this game, is there anyone specifically you guys want me to look at and ISO and give an analysis off of?

Yes, everyone.

Why did you replace into this game if you don't want to play it?

Xtoxm · Post Post #793 (isolation #102) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:02 am

7 to lynch wtf?

2 more votes on fire pls.

Xtoxm · Post Post #795 (isolation #103) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:05 am

no chance, you're refusing to read the game, don't give a shit if you flip town doing that, you deserve the noose

Xtoxm · Post Post #797 (isolation #104) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:07 am

did you somehow interpret that comment to mean i'm townreading you?

Xtoxm · Post Post #798 (isolation #105) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:08 am

if you're town and you don't want to play: replace out.

otherwise i'll assume you're doing nothing because you're scum

Xtoxm · Post Post #801 (isolation #106) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:14 am

In post 790, Firebringer wrote:I read like 1-5 then was like "this is boring" stopped

this does not constitute playing the game

Xtoxm · Post Post #803 (isolation #107) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:18 am

In post 763, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 762, Firebringer wrote:I am sorry about being lazy this game, is there anyone specifically you guys want me to look at and ISO and give an analysis off of?

Yes, everyone.

I need to see this analysis before i'd consider unvoting

Xtoxm · Post Post #806 (isolation #108) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:33 am

Starbuck's role sounds very likely town. Do you agree?

We think Dong targeted Knuckles last night, meaning he was the NK and therefore town.

Would this info have an effect on your top 3 scum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #808 (isolation #109) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:38 am

you're still voting Dav - Why? You just called him town with 'everyone else is town' comment.

Sounds like SOS is your top scum read?

Xtoxm · Post Post #810 (isolation #110) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:40 am

I could go for that, tbh. Is there anyone in this game that's not scumreading SOS rn?

Xtoxm · Post Post #811 (isolation #111) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:44 am

i have to admit your latest series of posts feels more town than scum

Xtoxm · Post Post #815 (isolation #112) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:46 am

VOTE: SOS

let's do this

Xtoxm · Post Post #817 (isolation #113) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:47 am

In post 812, Vedith wrote:
In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:We think Dong targeted Knuckles last night, meaning he was the NK and therefore town.

Unless they just targeted Dong, then it doesn't matter who he visited.

this is possible yes.

Xtoxm · Post Post #818 (isolation #114) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:48 am

In post 816, grapes wrote:
In post 812, Vedith wrote:
In post 806, Xtoxm wrote:We think Dong targeted Knuckles last night, meaning he was the NK and therefore town.

Unless they just targeted Dong, then it doesn't matter who he visited.

doesn't seem like a high priority kill, though

whereas knuckles kinda was

yeah i feel this way too. he was a town RB though and i hate those as scum so it's possible they wanted rid.

Xtoxm · Post Post #827 (isolation #115) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:52 am

idk about grapes. he's doing all the right things. refusing to claim though.

if he's scum he's good at fake towning.

Xtoxm · Post Post #832 (isolation #116) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:59 am

In post 831, Davsto wrote:Yeh, I looked through SoS and can't see any sort of claim. I don't see any point in waiting, though, considering the way the roles seem to be made specifically to avoid anyone thinking that anything is a town role/scum role.

i'm not too bothered. we might as well get a claim, but i don't really see it changing my read.

Xtoxm · Post Post #840 (isolation #117) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:09 am

if dav is townreading me he'll shoot from the pool i gave him earlier. i guess replace SOS with fire. theres not many options after removing the bulletproof claims + etc tbh.

Xtoxm · Post Post #844 (isolation #118) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:11 am

also people with knowledge.

is bulletproof a night only ability? or would randoms BP claim have protected him from knuckles dayvig too?

Xtoxm · Post Post #859 (isolation #119) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:37 am

dav we need your ability proven

Xtoxm · Post Post #922 (isolation #120) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:26 am

i hate how that gladiate has protected SOS and it makes me wonder.

i wanted to get an actual flip today and by lynching random that's not going to happen. unless he's lying about unlynchable but i don't think he is.

Xtoxm · Post Post #992 (isolation #121) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:43 pm

Good work Dav! <3

Xtoxm · Post Post #994 (isolation #122) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:48 pm

pfft what joker wouldn't have me in their town block

grapes you're gonna want to fullclaim in your next post

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:55 am

theres more than 2 fucking mafia don't try that shit

this SK push is pretty scummy

he did crumb the aj inno

dong targeted knuckles N1. this also means knuckles was roleblocked a night a scumkill happened. SOS we know blocked Dav. So the only way for knuckles to be scum is if random made the N1 kill.

last night, SOS did not use the global roleblock for some reason. i can only assume this is because they deemed the partners action more important than RB and had SOS do the kill.

all this together is a lot of circumstantial evidence for knuckles being not being scum tho it isn't 100%.

Vedith did you give anyone protection last night? If not, Fire blocked a kill and is basically town.

Vedith is also basically conf town for not vesting SOS.

Starbuck town due to shatter (and she should keep doing it every day for confirmation purposes unless we get to lylo)

me aj town also both investigatives.

grapes is probably a scum rolecop?

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:01 am

scum role pm says they cant do both

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:04 am

grapes if you're town then we come back to fire/knuckles

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:08 am

In post 1113, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1112, Xtoxm wrote:grapes if you're town then we come back to fire/knuckles

how in the hell is it me?
I roleblocked my ally, and was challenged gladiator with him?
HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!!!!!

well poe

we really have a lot of strong reasons to call the rest of the group town (or at least, not mafia)

knucles is the only one that seems disinterested today so could be bored scum, just means some really weird NK choices by team scum

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:11 am

i mean its still probably grapes, i dont think town has a cop on top of what me and aj have, and hes trying really hard to buy himself an extra day and flailing, doesn't ring town

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:16 am

strongman hits through a global RB btw.

but SOS not using the global last night still means the remaining scum had something more important to use

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:19 am

yeah getting bored of this 2p+sk push, starbuck pls shatter so we can kill

p-edit: yes i think so. but strongman are unaffected by RBs.

Xtoxm · Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:52 pm

VOTE: grapes

Xtoxm · Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:49 am

anyway sorry grapes if you were town but it all points at you.

we have a fair amount circumstantial evidence for fire + knuckles being town. strong evidence for everyone else being town. i'm pretty much a counterclaim to you and town seems kinda OP if you're real.

Xtoxm · Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:51 pm

The only thing stopping me from insta purging Fire at this point is that the presence of his double vote would seem to indicate he couldn't have made the kill.

Xtoxm · Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:00 pm

In post 988, wgeurts wrote:Factional Abilities:
You share a Private Topic with your partners here: -Redacted-
Further more you share a faction-kill that gets used instead of any of your other abilities during the night.

Nacho is the only person left without an ironclad night reason for not being mafia.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:35 am

I don't think you're an SK.

I had considered the possibility of Fire's double vote being passive, and of AJ being a neighborising godfather, but dismissed them due to occam's razor.

Even-day double voter is hard to believe when there is no other even/odd/etc abilities present in the game.

As for AJ. Picking his top scum read, claiming what he has, complete with in thread crumbs just seems so unlikely of a way for him to have played a hypothetical neighborising godfather and feels too far fetched to believe.

When you have to start buying into convoluted theories to call someone scum, they're probably town.

On the surface, Nacho is very scummy. He dayvigged a role that scum have a lot of reason to fear (vanilliser) and

hard

defended scum. We should probably lynch him today.

Either way, Fire and Nacho should be eating this cycle's lynch + strongman combo. If the game isn't over after that then idefk.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:36 am

In post 1233, Starbuck wrote:I haven't read back through the latest, but I don't think scum would have killed Vedith. He was pretty scummy in my eyes.

Vedith and obvtown and was a doctor, he 100% was the scum kill.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:36 am

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:40 am

In post 1229, Aj The Epic wrote:There's actually no proof Dave isn't scum...

Yes there is. He killed SOS. You are not selling me that he NKed his fucking scumbuddy to cover up an awful D1 claim as group scum. Not happening.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:45 am

Dong was a

roleblocker

. Scum

hate

town roleblockers. Nacho is also diabolical and may have reasonably anticipated night actions possibly pseudo-clearing one of his team if they killed dong.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:48 am

AJ you've clearly never have your scum team destroyed by a town RB but they are not something to be fucked around with. The evidence we had for Nacho being town was purely circumstantial, and everyone else now has stronger reasons for being town than him.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 am

Please unvote until Starbuck shatters.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 am

Well, I guess it doesn't matter. Just - no one hammer til she does her thing.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:28 am

Hmm ok. Maybe best not to. She's done it on 3 consecutive days so i'm pretty convinced she can't be scum..

VOTE: Nacho

Dav please clear Fire if this doesn't end the game.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:42 am

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:45 am

strongman shot him.

Xtoxm · Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:48 am

right.

regular shot him then.

that way if he doesn't die and someone else does we have more evidence for him being town.

i do think the game is over though

Xtoxm · Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:55 pm

Fuck this game.

Xtoxm · Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:47 am

Ouch.

What a crazy gambit you guys pulled lol.

Xtoxm · Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:35 am

You have know enabled yourself for being mislynched in games where you're obvtown, congratulations!

Xtoxm · Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:35 am

Xtoxm · Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:51 am

Omg Dav, your scum PT monologue was beautiful.

Xtoxm · Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:25 pm

i unexpectedly got the vig kill due to mod error.

was planning to get starbuck to shatter then lynch between aj/dav and shoot the other.

i was wondering how the hell i got redirected to dav (with an action i didn't even use) and that it must mean dav is town due to him killing fire meaning scum would have used a redirect on me.

but i was also thinking something went wrong with the action spec as everyone had strong reason to be town.

obviously was just a mod error.

fairly sure town would have won this.