Mini 1729 - History Mafia II END

[Aristophanes]

Throwing seven year olds out of a hot air balloon?

This game just got awesome!

[Aristophanes]

Are you telling us there's a chance? I need to know my options here. Gay men got few options. Is it you're not into men? I can totally turn you. Or did you grow boobs on me? I failed anatomy.

Sex fuels all historical decisions. Particularly Ancient Greece.

Ancient Greek Sex?
Oh the tales I could tell!

One day I got a new student, David, and decided to teach him a couple of things...

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Dwlee
You said you would tunnel KT Creep.
He has 2 posts now. Where is the tunnel???

[Aristophanes]

The tunnel is nearing the train.

Isn't that opposite of, like, proper physics and stuff?

Aka, Hunh!?

[Aristophanes]

Shit! I should have voted ErrantParabole because History never learns from its mistakes!
I missed out big time there

WolfTit, what about Bella looks the most awkward of the intro posts to you?
I don't disagree, but I also am unfamiliar with their earlygame. Are they usually smoother to join in?

[Aristophanes]

and here is dwlee being overly agressive witch is part of his scum meta so starting now i mean that vote

I don't see over-aggressiveness. Care to let me know which post seems it to you?

[Aristophanes]

and here is dwlee being overly agressive witch is part of his scum meta so starting now i mean that vote

I don't see over-aggressiveness. Care to let me know which post seems it to you?

omg dwlee is trying to move the game along VOTE: Dwlee

^ scum

early game absumbsons saying i'm scum over 1 post

But you voted sooo

saying basicly even if you were sarcastic you still put your vote on me aka OMGUS

Uhm. What? Do you read my flips on other games?

acting *surprised* when i said i know his meta

Meta is only a part of it, and the competing meta-claims for him muddy the waters somewhat.

I read all of this as mostly RVS still tbh, bot as over-aggressive posts.

Dwlee, were you being serious in claiming KT is scum for that?

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Kt

naked votes make me cringe

Creepers make me cringe.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Dwlee
You said you would tunnel KT Creep.
He has 2 posts now. Where is the tunnel???

why are you so interested in his tunneling of KT?

I'm not overly so, buy I have never played with either before and figured I'd poke around while in an RVS type mode anyway to see what their interactions bring reads-wise.

Also, we're in a grade 5 class. I assume that's where the "I'm 11" comment stems from...

[Aristophanes]

I'm gonna sort you two later.

Unsure if later is in an hour or tomorrow. We shall find out soon.

[Aristophanes]

Btw SW/Titus is a gr8 hydra

I recently accused them of not being able to play together...

Still love both of you, just an fyi.

[Aristophanes]

I feel like one of Dwlee/KT should be scum. Leaning on KT.
Thoughts?

[Aristophanes]

Btw SW/Titus is a gr8 hydra

I recently accused them of not being able to play together...

Still love both of you, just an fyi.

You were wrong.

~SW

Evidently. And I retract it.

None of this is relevant though and I should probbably get back into the game. This sex talk threw me off though, especially from grade 5 students...

[Aristophanes]

I feel like one of Dwlee/KT should be scum. Leaning on KT.
Thoughts?

I feel it is odd that you would think on of us are scum already on page 7. What do you mean when you say "one of Dwlee/KT

should

be scum."?

Not as odd as you may think. Your interactions read as a TvS to me so one of you

Should

be scum.

Whether either are scum will be reveales as we go, and it is possible neither of you are, but the interactions feel unnatural and thus my stance stands.

[Aristophanes]

Why did I expect anything else from that link...

[Aristophanes]

I'm not bailing on this game, I swear to you. I just need another day to get myself caught up and whatnot so I can comment here.

Shitty prod response, I know, but I do mean it and I will make time to be here tomorrow evening.

[Aristophanes]

The wheels on the bus apparently go round and round and round and round and....

Dwlee, there was a sitewide glitch where nothing was posting, and then they all posted at once. So of a poster assumed something didn't go through and reposted it, well, ^^^ that happened.

[Aristophanes]

Btw, Ari has been active in other games last night saturday night and this morning.

Hi!
I was behind in a few games. Like, really behind.
I am now undertaking my catch up of this game.

It is one of the last in my push to be caught up, after which I aim to remain this way.

So, here I am. Rereading and ready to catch some scum!
Anything pertinent to know as I read back?

[Aristophanes]

Basteon,
You voted Scorp in 189 for not liking two of his posts. No explanation otherwise. I see your vote is still there. Has this evolved or is it still based on the unexplained dislike of those posts?
Oh, you answered this in 260. Scorp is not (as in, at the time of the latest VC when this was written) on KT. Does this not satisfy your asking for him to join a wagon?
(Maybe I should finish reading before I continue to ask these things...)

SW what if he was 11 would that change your mind?

What is the point of this post?
I don't think it should matter their age. Also, why is there no "If Dwlee is 14, does that change your opinion?" asked to anyone?
Like, this whole age conversation is more distraction and I don't like it. I know it's not alignment indicative content-wise, but this feels like it's derailing the conversation.
I'm glad the two of you have played games before. You are younger, fine. That doesn't mean you can't play well. Thus far, I haven't seen it, but I'm sure you will show me something worthwhile at some point. This doesn't stop you from possibly appearing younger. Oh well, deal with it. So I will treat you as regular players, per your request. All this does for me is make me think the "unnatural" conversation between you two may have just been because I'm old and didn't get your angle. I honestly need to reread the two of you and reassess.

In all this, Dwlee at least tries to stay on track and votes Scorp for ignoring his question. KT does no such thing, which combined with Spiff's odd defense of the spot, makes me raise an eyebrow there.

Sonic, why is gummy obvtown?

@Bearded's 258,
I think I addressed this above. The reasons are forgotten, so I have to reread them. My asking or everyone's thoughts was because I thought it legitimate and a way to get us out of RVS and talking about something I viewed as substantial.

Scorp's readslist in 266 I don't like. He says I talked mostly about sex. I had 1 post where I joked like that. I may have been light on content, but it seems he didn't read anything and just made it up.
His blind support of the Dwlee/KT TvS ides is also not great.
His EP read is weird, as if scumcoaching. Especially if you compare it to his Spiff read.
And there are far too many null reads. If you have so many null, why bother making a list if not to look busy?

At Pg. 12, and this is getting big.
I didn't expect so much homework!!

I'll continue this in my next post.

[Aristophanes]

At least all of this fluff posting is easy to skim...

I am certainly not clicking on the link that says "images of pubic lice"

All this because of cooties. Titus derailing with Sonic makes me like that slot less.
Have we had our fun yet? There are maybe 5 posts I've seen worth reading in the last 3 pages. I'm glad I didn't miss much.

I like Spiff's reads in 371

though I have no clue who ET is.
I thought he meant EP, but he is in the null, not the town basket.

Nevermind. ET is KT.

BeardedCat is town. Cool!

I'm sorry for complaining but there is so much blathering on occurring in this game that I have nothing else to say really.

Scorp v Kt would give me more if he would answer or if KT would get the hint and back off.
I read this interaction as more towny on KT's side of things tbh.
KT, as scum, I would assume, would stop pushing this and move on after being told by Scorp he wouldn't answer him. The persistence feels more frustrated town than not.
Scorp, on the other hand, is blatantly ignoring him and refuses to acknowledge his questions, which I would argue is antitown at best. Doing it with such confidence too seems less towny.
Also, he refers back to 278 which looks more like a disregarding of the question than an answer to it.

Oh my god, how many pages do they go at it for!?!?

I'm gonna need a stiffer drink to get through this than I thought.
At least the Sex talk was amusing.

[Aristophanes]

"Don't let me being a kid effect your read on me. I'm not a n00b."

you know what i'll stop playing for today but just remember Scorpious litteraly told me to F off and to go away so i'm felling kinda forced out just remember that Scorpious screamed at at kid that just wanted to do well in a game YOU GUYS HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ONLY A GAME just don'y lynch me while i don't play bye

AtE for being "bullied out of the thread" and how we should feel bad because he's "just a kid."
Well then. I don't even know.
At least it's a break from this shit. (No offense, KT)

Why does aristophaneous still have their vote on me?

Whoops.
UNVOTE:
I'd forgotten that was there.

I'm at Page 19 and should be able to do more, but my head hurts from either that argument or from looking at the screen for too long.
I'll be back.

[Aristophanes]

I can't stand the dots you put after every post it makes me feel sad which is AtE. ;-;

...

You hate ellipses? What does that have to do with Scorp's alignment?

Also, not quite AtE, but I'll go along with that if you like.

[Aristophanes]

@Nexus
I realize I am due for a prod, and being my third, due for replacement.
If you can give me to the end of the weekend I will catch up and be active again.
If I do not deliver, replace me I guess

[Aristophanes]

Scorpious calling your interactions with KT Town vs. Scum was "not great" for Aristophanes when Aristophanes himself made the same observation 100 posts earlier.

Since it looks like a possibility
VOTE: Aristophanes

I believe I said his "blind support" of it wasn't great, not just his support, but okay. (In fact, it is in the quoted you made in the last post there.)

I am gonna do more reading and less large-posts to expedite my catchup btw. Just letting ppl know where I'm at.

Also, voting me "since it looks like a possibility" when we aren't really rushed isn't the best reason to vote. Almost as if you tested the waters first, but still want to look proactive in it.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Aristophanes

I feel so loved!

[Aristophanes]

Isn't deadline in three days?

And even if it isn't I'm still comfortable with my vote.

Alright, seems legit.
I didn't realize there were only 3 days.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Ouch.
Whyfore art thou so cruel?

[Aristophanes]

What would be the point of a gender cop?? o.O

a bit of history to help with history, Nexus used a gender cop in the previous history mafia game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4298672

though I believe it is not the same in this game so dont use it as a bible for the roles I have a feeling there is a trick.

I think I have a grasp of whats going on so I have 1 question

@Beardedcat

do you have boobs?

Back to the boobs. This time, it makes sense!
I read some of the last game and noted the gender cop as well.

oh due to daylight savings this thread is EST now LMAO

website*

You can click a button to "turn off DST" in your user profile I believe. I did so myself.

[Aristophanes]

I think that a gender cop is most likely a glorified follower, imo.

Glorified follower?
How do you logic that?

It's moreso a weak-rolecop.

Also, until we have more flips, this whole gender discussion really gets us nowhere.
Unless someone wants to read through the boob conversation, figure out who was talking about role and who was talking about IRL, then figure out whether there is a certain gender for scum to have, and present the argument all at once, I fail to see how we are progressing the game with any of this.

[Aristophanes]

@Gummy, I was, in fact, quite surprised to see green in Scorp's flip.
I was far less surprised to see CotW die. They are scary (to scum) when town.

This likely points to someone more experienced making the kill.
That's not to say Dwlee or KT aren't a part of the scumteam, but I think it points to someone who knows WolfTit's heads is definitely there.

I'm not 100% on who has what experience with them, but I feel like BeardedCat and Bella are two who definitely do.
I'm not convinced either are scum, but I am going to reread them and see what I can get from that.
I believe Beard was in my townpile, I don't recall where Bella sat though.

Spiff, Dwlee, what is the case against me?
Is it still based upon activity level?

[Aristophanes]

I have reasons, ari.

~reasons~ is a really bad and unconvincing case.
Care to state what they are?

[Aristophanes]

Shit, we only have 3 days left.
I'll be here tomorrow with some insights.

I think I have more thoughts than I'm writing down this game because I could sweat I've dome more than role spec this phase...

Was KT replaced due to inactivity? I never saw a prod or request, it just kinda happened outta nowhere.
Regardless, welcome Piggy!
Hopefully a new set of eyes does us some good!

[Aristophanes]

I feel like every post ari makes promises something in another post.

Funny, I feel like every post you make is a one off comment that makes it look like you're scum hunting without committing to anything, making it easy to take a backseat in the game unless effort is required.

Now, are you going to post your case against me or continue making posts alone these lines?

[Aristophanes]

Ohey, would you look at that!
A prod, an L-1, and a single day left all at once!

I'm so gonna be the lynch today, especially once I claim being lurky fucking VT.

Sorry I hurt our chances town :S

Anyway, Dwlee is a townread, as are Pig and Bearded.
Gummy is also pretty up there.

Spiffee and his incessant push on me feel off, but he did a similar thing to town in the end of Anti Vs FakeGod so I'm not really sure what to think there. He does leam scum, but that may be due to slight Omgus feels.

I should bave more scumreads but apparently I'm not very good with them sometimes, this game being one of them. This is part of my reason for lurking (along with generally being busy and apparently being Meh at VT) because I didn't feel I had anything to push.

I'm not giving up, as I know this post sounds, but I am laying down my shit before I go to bed.
I'm going to be at work until phase end tomorrow, so do as you please. I may be able to come in to vote if a counterwagon appears, but I ain't gonna count on it.
I also didn't look back at the more experienced players as |i'd promised. So, mea culpa.



I'm totally gonna get banned from whatever Nexus' next game is :S

[Aristophanes]

Can you claim?

I'm so gonna be the lynch today,

especially once I claim being lurky fucking VT

.
<snip>
I should bave more scumreads but apparently I'm not very good with them sometimes, this game being one of them. This is part of my reason for lurking (

along with generally being busy and apparently being Meh at VT

) because I didn't feel I had anything to push.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes were you scum?

I neither was nor am scum

[Aristophanes]

Gladly.
I am actually a rather neat fellow, Woodrow Wilson.
My only mention of women (if it matters, which it may due to gender based shit) is that he extended them the right to vote.
Otherwise, *insert history facts here*

[Aristophanes]

Believe what you like. I'm still a mere VT.

Back at L-1, right?