I also write code. There can only be one.
@Vedith - just wait till I join that GBA game too
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(jk three ongoing games is gonna be enough for me right now)
In post 140, Aristophanes wrote:I was merely pointing out logic.
In post 74, Aristophanes wrote:Since Inquisition seems to be trying to pull us back to RVS as well as being defensive for no reason.
In post 110, Aristophanes wrote:You don't have to explicitly say things in order for then to be inferred. But I can see you aren't too good at realizing these nuances. This is also what basically happened with the SK business. Whether you said it or not, there was a mention of an SK brought into play in referencing that game.
In post 151, Titus wrote:Trying too hard? That's utter shit. Applying that to Rob when he's asking questions and not to sw is wtf. Your Ari attack also makes no sense if SW is null.
In post 163, Titus wrote:2. Don't see the relevance to Rob in particular and that can be used to weaken any townreads that you don't like.
In post 163, Titus wrote:3. I don't think PB was trying to draw fire from anyone.
In post 165, Rob14 wrote:From a more theoretical standpoint than practical for this game, you have this backward. Scum probes with results in mind, because they already know who is and isn't town. Town probes to see who squirms, and then they go for the results.
In post 213, Titus wrote:He's chainsawing on behalf of someone as null. He's discounting all attempts to sort you, thus maintaining the drama between me and you. Chainsawing someone you're "null" reading is a contradiction. Add in he's made no effort to sort you (at least at the time of this post), but poo poos any attempt to sort you, contradiction 2.
He also discourages Rob for trying to hard, but leaves out us. Regardless of your alignment, you're trying so hard to get me lynched that you're drowning out everyone else. Yet, he leaves you out. He leaves me out as well despite me scumhunting. Contradiction 3.
This leaves out the fact that "trying too hard" is not a scumtell at all. Contradiction 4. Spamming and disrupting attempts to scumhunt and fearmongering are scumtells but merely being active, don't think so.
Calling you over defensive and being scumread for "stupid reasons" doesn't jive with a townread on for getting reactions from you and voting you for them. Contradiction 6 ( but this one is weaker).
In post 236, Hieirama wrote:This was pretty flip-floppy.
"a lot of scummy", "I didn't like", "poking around to build towncred", but then you say he's Town?
As well as,
"I don't think it's necessarily alignment-indicative" to "he's more likely town than not based on his effort and probability"?
That's kind of contradictory. Explain?
In post 140, Aristophanes wrote:Can someone e expand on the Rob13 votes for me? That slot seems fine to me. By "efforting too much" do you mean they are trying to appear helpful while not doing so in practice? I have to reread them if so because I didn't get that the first time through.
In post 237, Titus wrote:@GL, Where's the attempt to sort SW from you if you think my reasons are stupid? When ika and mollie play in games without me, they can be some of the best scumhunters but by doing things that seem illogical or stupid on the surface (but they really aren't). Insulting one method while providing nothing to support it yourself is discouraging sorting SW. The fact you haven't asked her anything since I brought that up makes me wonder, just what are you doing to sort SW?
In post 243, Titus wrote:@GL, Why are you acting like the recent posts by SW and I trying to move past the whole debate are nonexistent and that I am attempting to derail her?
I don't like that you're claiming you'll sort SW, when you'll get around to it. Just who have you sorted? Where?
In post 211, Titus wrote:@SW, I will be out most of the day today, so in the rare event you're actually trying to scumhunt and consider alternatives
In post 262, Titus wrote:I don't find a condition to start scumhunting provided the condition is a reasonable one outside the player's immediate control. I will scumhunt in the future/when I feel like it is worse. With a specific condition, a player can be held accountable. PB is promising to be here tomorrow, and his condition has ended, thus giving rise to holding him accountable.
GL saying that he'll scumhunt later, well guess what it's ever later.
In post 427, SilverWolf wrote:@GL-Why is Ari scum to you?
In post 205, Aristophanes wrote:Also, Vedith's 61 is bad and I don't like it. It frames Titus as scum, but badly.
In post 220, GuiltyLion wrote:@Aristophanes do you think anyone is going to read 61 and change their own personal read on Titus because of it? Because to me it looks like he's clearly poking for a reaction and you're reaching for reasons to justify a scumread.
In post 150, Aristophanes wrote:I have a feeling I'm gonna look scummy this game. Just forewarning you.
Maybe I like leading everyone rong, though.
In post 423, Titus wrote:I am trying to get some sort of engagement on my scumreads but I am not getting any analytical thought but from Rob.
In post 448, Titus wrote:I actually want to talk about 20/100(who has been parking) Vedith (who I though was pretty town early but his recent posting fell off), and ASP.
In post 275, 20x100 wrote:There's a weird interaction going on between rob/titus which I want to keep an eye on
In post 589, Prolapsed Brain wrote:I'm curious why you thought one player could read another player's mind to answer why a vote was placed. Also, yes, scum could benefit, slightly I suppose, from looking town so early, but this is just Rob. That's how he plays.
In post 661, Prolapsed Brain wrote:I think that GL asking Titus why pistachio voted you was a way to get Titus to do the heavy lifting, and GL to take credit and/or assimilate Titus' read into their own. It's just lazy, and scum are far lazier than town, IME.
In post 889, Prolapsed Brain wrote:I think your read wasn't really "developed" at all; as shown above, you were ambiguous, and null, and wishy-washy up until your post 759, when Rob suddenly became very decisive town. I think it reeks of trying to force a read onto a player, and there's only two reasons I can think of for someone to do that: They're lazy town, or they're scum.
Which are you?
In post 309, GuiltyLion wrote:Rob has also moved into my townlean category with consistent defense of me on the subsequent page from my post 240, especially the sequence of 255, 257, 261, and 263. I see no scum-motivation for defending me as his townread and making those points, unless he's trying to play an extremely long game by buddying me and keeping me alive. But if that happens I can revisit the read later this game, for now I think that's a very townie action to take.
In post 889, Prolapsed Brain wrote:In 309 you ask Boon about Rob, but supply no further read yourself.
In post 891, Rob14 wrote:Why have you asked several people how their opinion of you has changed based on your read of me? Why do you care about their opinion of you?
In post 943, SilverWolf wrote:@GL-why is pista a townread for you?
In post 951, SilverWolf wrote:Not Voting (2): Hieirama, Aristophanes, SilverWolf, Vonflare
In post 994, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm not sure if this means vote titus or means you fucked up a fakeclaim
In post 1049, A Simple Plan wrote:I'm here. I'll read stuff when I get a chance.
Quick answer to Aristophanes' question, I think the question you asked regarding Titus being implicated or cleared by SW's death is a rather scum-minded question because it tests the waters more on a Titus wagon instead of pushing one way or the other. It's a setup question that instinctually implicates Titus in a framing sort of manner.
Based upon that, I'm more inclined to believe Titus is town.
In post 1112, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 1109, GuiltyLion wrote:Ari kill makes more sense to me coming from a vig than scum.
Why
In post 176, Rob14 wrote:If Titus ever flips scum, we lynch P_B next for sure.
In post 177, Titus wrote:@Rob, why are you drawing relationship tells between me and PB if they are useless Preflip?
In post 237, Titus wrote:As for PB or Pistachio, I could do either of those.
In post 256, Titus wrote:What's the difference between PB, saying he'll scumhunt once the drama is gone versus GL saying he'll scumhunt when he feels like it?
In post 295, Titus wrote:Rob's a theory poster like me. I highly doubt he's scum here. Sure, I can't be one hundred percent certain as little things nag me (I don't get his stance on why PB is worse than GL and little logical inconsistencies like that)
In post 591, SilverWolf wrote:PB is lining up lynches. If either Pista or Titus flips scum, he's got me set up to be lynched next.
In post 599, Titus wrote:@SW, why does PB asking about your meta make you want to lynch him?
In post 612, Titus wrote:Your hypocrisy in argument regarding his recent posting, your revival of PB. I was there for days. Rob and I pushed hard for it. It was a dead wagon. Now you're just trying to kill wgeurts wagon. If you felt PB was scum, you would have jumped on sooner.
Look through your ISO can we tell if associative reads are bad (only for PB but not you or Vedith), quick fast reads are bad (only for PB, and that was in response to my question of course they aren't fleshed, they are gut), asking for meta is wrong (only for PB, not Rob when he's asked us multiple times).
You get defensive and jump down the throat of anyone accusing you as scum. You have two sets of standards. One for you and one for everyone else.
That hypocrisy is why you've made a PB wagon wholly unappetizing.
In post 851, Titus wrote:4) PB, The only thing scummy from him is the broken promise but he's here when pressure is on him.
In post 1184, Flubbernugget wrote:cop and a miller iirc
when they check in they can probably confirm my memory
In post 1208, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I gave my reasoning for it right away, GL - he was D1 counterwagon to town. Not sure how that got dropped.