Mini 1739: Netherspite's SORM II [To Be Re-Rolled]

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: patientZer0 #Feel the cold :/

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: lane

payback begins. This is gonna be fun.

Hi patient, Gray, frozen angel, and hiiiii to the rest of you.

HIIIII

Vedith You confessed to be scum?!

Spoiler:

Evening all,

VOTE: Vedith #feeltheburn

VOTE: Vedith he is in L2 (don't push him harder please! Just want to test him!)

Wait Vedith is in the game?
VOTE: Vedith

VOTE: Vedith

Random sheeping is fun.

Considering bella didn't even say hello to me, i don't know what yoU're compLaining abouT.

VOTE: Vedith

Scum found. GG

[Frozen Angel]

For the people who know me already and for those who don't : I own the L2 vote.

VOTE: Vedith lets see you defending yourself

[Frozen Angel]

Ika and Vedith are likely my side.

huh?

why are you surprised if your town? maximum of players here are town for sure ...

:/

[Frozen Angel]

Well I'm not completely ok with this strategy. Protective roles shouldn't claim. With this approach mayer will easily die tonight.

[Frozen Angel]

I do have a town protective role though. and yes I forgot doctor can't heal mayor.

[Frozen Angel]

I didn't say scum there

Well! you know your partners, ha?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm sure at least 2 are lying. or ika is not another protective :/

[Frozen Angel]

Well! you know your partners, ha?

Yeah, it's you!

Sure! It's me!

[Frozen Angel]

Or ika can be some other kind of doctor. He claimed to be doctor not a town protective.

[Frozen Angel]

I change my popcorn to frozen, since she's here

Well I already popcorned! as you missed it I have a town protective role.

[Frozen Angel]

I will popcorn GrayFoxxxx

[Frozen Angel]

post 70 : Ika claimed to be a doc (town doc ?! / or the witch doctor?!)
post 94 : Vedith claimed to have a pewpew role (killing category maybe?!or scum?!)
post 114 : Bella is now confirmed as the town mayor
post 116 : Titus claimed to have an investigative role (never said town)
post 120 : Jeanne11 claimed to have the town investigative role
post 123 : randomidget claimed to have a town government role
post 134 : I know I have a town protective role
post 161 : lane claimed to be the sherif (town investigative)
post 181 : FireBringer claimed to have a town investigative slot
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver (town power)
post 247 : Ari claimed to be a natural bengion

well! lets categorize this :

Town Government : Bella (confirmed)
Town Investigative
Town Protective : Frozen Angel (Me :/)
Town Killing or Power
Town Random
Town Random
Town Random
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing
Neutral Evil or Benign
Neutral Evil or Benign

Investigative claims : Titus,Jeanne11,lane,FireBringer (there is town investigator and a mafia support so I think they will take 2 other random slots - 1 is sure mafia here)
Protective claims : Me and Ika. (Ika is another town random slot or the Natural Evil - witch doctor)
Government claims(except bella) : randomidget (takes the remaining random slot if ika is natural or is the neutral evil cultist or said a complete lie about his role)
Power/killing claims : vedith and grey (well 1 is the neutral killing by the look of things, more like vedith)

TTH never claimed anything (possible to be the godfather?)

well ! VOTE: Ika

[Frozen Angel]

ah Zero remained as well , and Mafia Deception ...

[Frozen Angel]

W8 W8!

another possibility for ika is to be the mafia Consort .

if TTH sentence was a kind of claim (to be town government), there is one actual scum between he and randomiget - or 2 of our investigator claimers are liers

[Frozen Angel]

One between Vedith and TTH should be the natural killing , two of the investigators are probably scum. Ika is probably a natural evil and I think there is a good chance for PZ to be in mafia. (as I mentioned all in post 249)

if ika is the natural evil then randomiget is a town government. if ika is really a protective town (which I can't believe) then randomiget is the natural evil.

so I will hold my vote against Ika.

@PZ if you are still playing please claim ...

[Frozen Angel]

Thats the way people claimed TTH. Try to put people in the given slots and you will sum up with something similar.

[Frozen Angel]

Well as I have a protective town role myself, the only way for Ika not being scum is when he is in a random Slot. We know Bella is a town government. so if randomiget is telling the truth he is in another random slot. 4 people claimed investigative. as 1 is for sure town's investigative and 1 can be mafia's we can assume 2 are town's , 2 are scum (or 3 are town and 1 is scum) if grey direct claim is true and he is a bus driver then between you and vedith , 1 is a lier and 1 is not.

Ika claimed to be a doctor not to have a town protective role so he is a candidate for being witch doctor. and radomiget can be the cultist (or something)

remember there are 3 random slots available (if 2 investigator are telling the truth and one of you/vedith are telling the truth so 1 of the randomiget/ika claims can be true) that's why I think between Ika and randomiget there is one natural evil player.

[Frozen Angel]

I said we can assume! I'm not sure about that.

If we can't assume that then 3 of the claimers are scummy in your opinion?! thats huge and very unlikely. and if 3 of them are town (and 1 is mafia) there is even 1 less slot for ika/randomiget.

So why that make no sense to you?

[Frozen Angel]

Nah sorry for any mistake I have.

[Frozen Angel]

Just think if he is really a witch doctor , what will he claim for? a doctor for sure.

and just assume someone who really is a cultist , what will he claim for? A marshall(town government) for sure.

people won't claim something which has no relation to their role. Investigators can confirm if their lying or not later in game then. that was the basis of my theory.

and I never said its impossible. I said its unlikely because they could claim for something else more related to their slot.

And! as I said I concluded this when I was trying to put everyone in their right slots after claims. who is more candidate for a natural evil slot if not ika/randomiget ?

[Frozen Angel]

Investigator claimers who are lying are more like mafia players than natural. killing lier is more like the natural killing player. and PZ takes the godfather slot as its the only remaining slot I can see

[Frozen Angel]

I think I posted it already

[Frozen Angel]

post 70 : Ika claimed to be a doc (town doc ?! / or the witch doctor?!)
post 94 : Vedith claimed to have a pewpew role (killing category maybe?!or scum?!)
post 114 : Bella is now confirmed as the town mayor
post 116 : Titus claimed to have an investigative role (never said town)
post 120 : Jeanne11 claimed to have the town investigative role
post 123 : randomidget claimed to have a town government role
post 134 : I know I have a town protective role
post 161 : lane claimed to be the sherif (town investigative)
post 181 : FireBringer claimed to have a town investigative slot
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver (town power)
post 247 : Ari claimed to be a natural bengion
post 259 : TTH claimed to be a killing

[Frozen Angel]

PZ0

[Frozen Angel]

ok so once we pin down what is killing i cna cordinate the acitons.

im putting fozen as a potential bg right now

:/ because I put you as a potential evil?!

and why we have a mayor when you want to coordinate the night actions?!

[Frozen Angel]

You want me claim?

Why should I claim my exact protective role for you? Reason me , that won't only hurt the town and I will gladly share it.

and FB said what I wanted to say ...^

[Frozen Angel]

I will follow mayors order about claiming my real role or not.

[Frozen Angel]

Just think if he is really a witch doctor , what will he claim for? a doctor for sure.

and just assume someone who really is a cultist , what will he claim for? A marshall(town government) for sure.

people won't claim something which has no relation to their role. Investigators can confirm if their lying or not later in game then. that was the basis of my theory.

and I never said its impossible. I said its unlikely because they could claim for something else more related to their slot.

And! as I said I concluded this when I was trying to put everyone in their right slots after claims. who is more candidate for a natural evil slot if not ika/randomiget ?

Not claiming marshall

oh P0

pesit: ninja

after we get his claim all roles that can confirm themselfs (killing/power) should claim then ari should. random is claimingg ot be crier/judge right now

let me update the chart i have

Bingo

Ok then you claim to be the town crier. that won't change my thought about you being a judge(natural evil)

1 of you/ika is the natural evil here. unless someone else can suggest anyone else?

[Frozen Angel]

I think you meant random when you said bella . Well then I would be sure 2 random slots are gone at least. I would be sure that there 2 liers in investigator claimers and for sure there is one lier in killer claimers. (both killer claimers were lieing then or 3 of the investigator claimers were lier). and I was going to start thinking PZ is the natural evil.

Well , Why shouldn't I be interested in finding evil? I think I have a solid approach against this role right now .

[Frozen Angel]

Well I think I had a general look on every role. we have a claim for benign. as I said the killing role lier is probably the natural killing. and as I said I think the investigator liers are in mafia.



The only thing I have is a theory nothing more.

[Frozen Angel]

I have nothing suggesting who is lieing inside the investigator claimers or between vedith/TTH

you have anything?

[Frozen Angel]

I have nothing suggesting who is lieing inside the investigator claimers or between vedith/TTH

you have anything?

yes, i do. if you read how people have been acitng it would lead to conclusoin but your obviously not so *shrugs*

I was doing so all the day. But I couldn't find anything out of the boundaries. Can you please be more specific ?

frozen do you have any offsite games?

I had. only one, 3 or 4 years ago. whats that going to do with anything?

[Frozen Angel]

/Spam Feeling so confident right now Endspam/

actually I can't remember the domain I was playing last time and it was about 4 years ago (and it was in my first language so you can't understand the game even if I find a link) . I was a town cop and we won the game. that's all I can remember.

I find this site when I was searching about the mafia game as one of my real friends suggested to play this. I remembered my last game and joined the games.

I have no other experience in this game. just about 6/7 other games with my RL friends in the past 2 weeks (with simple doctor/cop roles).

[Frozen Angel]

Well I will post a wall contains details about each player individually when I have something to say about them. right now , I want to see who will they react to my theory.

[Frozen Angel]

Who should I PewPew tonight?

^vig claim?

you replaced who?

[Frozen Angel]

oh :~| alt acc

and look at the evil part as well (or the mafia faction kill ?) why are you trying to see the bright side!

[Frozen Angel]

But the one who can ask to pewpew is vig . (in a lynch day)

[Frozen Angel]

But the one who can ask to pewpew is vig . (in a lynch day)

Well for a start, you are assuming that a lynch is guaranteed.
Secondly, I disagree.

Well! A lynch in day 1 is .... the lynch in the day1

why shouldn't we lynch?!

and second! Are you confessing to be the natural killing or a mafia player? cause a town killing CAN't DO .... whtever! I forgot how you can troll about everything ...

lets not be rational! at least about you ... :/

[Frozen Angel]

Well for a start, you are assuming that a lynch is guaranteed.

why shouldn't we lynch?!

Quote where I said there.

ok so your saying your ok with lynching and your role can pew pew in N1 even though. You say your not jailor , and Your consisting that your not town vig. So what the hell are you claiming to be?!!

[Frozen Angel]

I forgot to add You need orders to pew pew someone! so you can't be claiming vet as well?!

[Frozen Angel]

! in this case you got the green plate as well?!

oh crap! I lost my sanity I guess :/

[Frozen Angel]

well I started reading, this game looks complicated as shit.
am I actually supposed to read all those role PMs?

first claim your category then yes. you should do that :/

[Frozen Angel]

Its still useful. whats your category shos? and Mod can we have zero proded?

[Frozen Angel]

ok I see (page 6) we have already initiated the category claiming, so no reason to hide it. I'm a Killing/Power role.

lane lied or you are doing it...

scum confirmed

[post=shos]shos[/post]

[Frozen Angel]

shit I meant VOTE: shos :/ 4 am posts cant end better than that :/

[Frozen Angel]

He didn't know lane's claim the moment he wrote it. It was a trap that he fall in

[Frozen Angel]

Look at his posts. he was reading the thread from beginning. He claimed before reaching the post contains lane confess.

then he reached it and tried to clarify himself. You missed him with PZ But I used your trap to force him confess. look at my last posts.

[Frozen Angel]

Bolded something significant.
If anyone knows my meta, I'm super careful as scum, and I *always* read the game before posting a catchup post when I am. Especially in a game this short, lol.

I don't know about your meta BUT If you read the game before posting it, you would deny that first then start category claiming.

And people just can see Your posts and the way you did it Just stop the obvious lie and Hard claim.

[Frozen Angel]

Is it possible to have two veterans in game? Anybody?

If not we have a vedith/shos conflict here.

anyway we have a 3 party in killing roles + the bus driver . just like the investigators there should be at least 1 mafia player here. and I'm sure there are 2.

I can't see why lane should lie about being a sherif (specifically) when he is a veteran and other investigators can die for that claim.

[Frozen Angel]

@Mod please Prod PatientZero0.

[Frozen Angel]

Shos, is that a fire scum read?

I know ika/fire are after me to take charge of night roles because conf town (lol at shos saying I might be scum lying about seeing Lane's flip - also to clarify, I can't for the life of me remember what ROLE it was, but I 100% remember the colour), but I HATE set-up stuff and I'm terribad at it. If ika/fb/titus can agree on a plan, I think it's pretty unlikely for them all the be scum, so am happy to go with it.

We shouldn't lynch shos today.

So we should go with a no lynch ?

Whats your idea about my theory?I'm still thinking Ika is a natural Evil.

What will happen if two veteran attack each other? Both will die?

[Frozen Angel]

Unvote.

What I don't get is why you'd keep up this fascade hundreds of posts into the game. but nvm. your posts have conviction, I'll let it go.
And investigating in circle sounds like a waste of a night, imo. if anything, you want to involve as many players as can be. I can't explain his posts. Why did he replace out, anyway.?

it wasn't a waste of night in lane's opinon. If he was truly a veteran why he wanted to see an investigator dead?

sure you can't explain his posts . But you did claim something different from him. and you Must reason us why the last one was a lie and why is that not a problem ?

[Frozen Angel]

Got you

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

I'm moving pass you your defense seems stupidly honest

UNVOTE: shos

[Frozen Angel]

But I'm desperately anxious to see why lane lied.

[Frozen Angel]

Or how dumb I am fr trusting you

[Frozen Angel]

Jenne I really like to see what do you think about shos claims.

[Frozen Angel]

Dunno, but I don't think anyone wold willingly claim a scum role.

I mean the other two claims? Sherif and veteran ?

[Frozen Angel]

Titus what in his play suggest being a Jester? :/ Explain more please.

[Frozen Angel]

I have an exam tomorrow. Will post more then... Sorry for kind of inactiveness

[Frozen Angel]

He is lynched Day 1 in every game we play together

He got proded as well.

Everyone here claimed their role's category. It's your turn.

[Frozen Angel]

4 investigatives again. shos claim is now more likely genuine about lane lying.

I don't know if he lied as well , but know its obvious lane did so.

Titus I can't follow your reasoning. TRY TO BE BETTER , this is the last warning.

And A wall post will be generated tomorrow after my exam.

[Frozen Angel]

now*

[Frozen Angel]

sure in a moment

[Frozen Angel]

post 70 : Ika claimed to be a doc
post 94 : Vedith claimed to have a pewpew role
post 114 : Bella is now confirmed as the town mayor
post 116 : Titus claimed to have an investigative role
post 120 : Jeanne11 claimed to have the town investigative role
post 123 : randomidget claimed to have a town government role
post 134 : I know I have a town protective role
post 161 : lane claimed to be the sherif
post 181 : FireBringer claimed to have a town investigative slot
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver
post 247 : Ari claimed to be a natural bengion
post 259 : TTH claimed to be a killing
post 418 : vedith claim to be a veteran
post 439 : Shos claim to have a power/killing role
post 474 : Shos claim to be a veteran
post 598 : Spiffeh claimed to be investigative


so categories will be like this :

Town Government: randomidget, Bellaphant(confirmed)
Town Investigative: Jeanne11, Titus, Firebringer , Spiffeh , [lane0168]
Town Protective: ika, Frozen Angel, *GrayFoxxxx*
Town Killing or Power: TellTaleHeart, Vedith, shos , *GrayFoxxxx*
Neutral Benign: Aristophanes

[Frozen Angel]

I still consist to this point : if everyone else lied 33% Randomiget and Ika lied 50%.

I'm prefer to lynch one of them instead of no lynch

[Frozen Angel]

Titus reasoning is not so convincing as well and shos/lane lie is something can't we put aside so i'm happy with any lynch about these 4.

[Frozen Angel]

I must add this :

post 333 : Ari claimed to be a Survivor

[Frozen Angel]

and I must add this

post 371 : randomiget claimed to be the crier

and if you missed it Grey claimed to be the Bus driver. and Bus driver can be considered as a power or a protective role.

[Frozen Angel]

For further reference I wrote this whole again : remember this post #AllTheClaims

if you missed this post later just come in my Iso and search #AllTheClaims

post 70 : Ika claimed to be a doc
post 94 : Vedith claimed to have a pewpew role
post 114 : Bella is now confirmed as the town mayor
post 116 : Titus claimed to have an investigative role
post 120 : Jeanne11 claimed to have the town investigative role
post 123 : randomidget claimed to have a town government role
post 134 : I know I have a town protective role
post 161 : lane claimed to be the sherif
post 181 : FireBringer claimed to have a town investigative slot
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver
post 247 : Ari claimed to be a natural bengion
post 259 : TTH claimed to be a killing
post 333 : Ari claimed to be a Survivor
post 371 : randomiget claimed to be the crier
post 418 : vedith claim to be a veteran
post 439 : Shos claim to have a power/killing role
post 474 : Shos claim to be a veteran
post 598 : Spiffeh claimed to be investigative


so categories will be like this :

Town Government: randomidget, Bellaphant(confirmed)
Town Investigative: Jeanne11, Titus, Firebringer , Spiffeh , [lane0168]
Town Protective: ika, Frozen Angel, *GrayFoxxxx*
Town Killing or Power: TellTaleHeart, Vedith, shos , *GrayFoxxxx*
Neutral Benign: Aristophanes

[Frozen Angel]

Protectives are not all doctors. and yes a natural killer can kill them all. a mafia blocker can block one. and I'm sure we have a natural evil here

[Frozen Angel]

and there are thousands more reason that plan can easily fail!

[Frozen Angel]

@Mod you sleep anytime?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

There have been 18 Vout counts so far , I must thank you for the time your putting in this game

[Frozen Angel]

there is a judge in natural evil who can fake crier. thats pretty much my assumptions as I told them already.

and for protective roles. we must explain specifically what each role should do. Don't assume all of them protective Escort(town roleblocker) / Bus driver / Bodyguard is in this group!

investigators should circle. we might compare their results to find the scum tomorrow. veterans should both stay alert. TTH must go after ika/randomiget.

[Frozen Angel]

Besides, I already given my scum reads, it's Titus and PZ.

w8 w8! you scumread the guy who is scumreading you and the inactive guy who just got replaced?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

Jeanne11 is a jester. I can't think of anything else :/

[Frozen Angel]

Hello TheDominator37 , Please claim your role category as all of us did that already

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel Official Wall Post

Please read it all (skimmers will be punished later :/ ) . As in this game People are now categorized to their claims. I'm going category by Category right now. And I will use pure math for calculation (It's kind of needed :/ )

Town Government

: randomidget, Bellaphant(confirmed)

claims :
post 114 : Bella is now confirmed as the town mayor
post 123 : randomidget claimed to have a town government role
post 371 : randomidget claimed to be the crier

Well there aren't so much to discus about this category. A town crier can be easily faked by a Judge (Natural Killing). there is 50% chance for randomiget to told us a lie. As there is only 3 random slots and there is only 1 possible place for his lier version to be (as I will say it later the only other possible one for that slot is Ika) so its a 50% chance for him to be a lier. as its 1/9 chance to have a random slot for him he is like 70% natrual evil 30% a real town government.

Bella 100% town - randomiget slight-natural-evil-lean

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel Official Wall Post

Town Investigative

: Jeanne11, Titus, Firebringer , Spiffeh , [lane0168]

claims :
post 116 : Titus claimed to have an investigative role
post 120 : Jeanne11 claimed to have the town investigative role
post 161 : lane claimed to be the sherif
post 181 : FireBringer claimed to have a town investigative slot
post 439 : Shos(lane replacement) claim to have a power/killing role
post 598 : Spiffeh claimed to be investigative

Well 5 people are in this category (1 denied his old buddies claim but still I will consider it 5)
this claim is the best option for nearly all of the mafia team. A Mafioso, Godfather , Consigliere , Agent , Framer , janitor can hide behind an investigative role. remember, Mafia has a factional thread to speak, so if one of them has investigative power all can fake as one.
There is for sure 1 slot for a town investigator as well. And 3 more are possible.
Auditor's can claim investigative roles as well , BUT I SEE NO REASON FOR A VETERAN to claim as investigator. (+ he invited other investigators to visit him later) ok lets go lane's case for one moment and focus on Titus/jeanne fight.
titus was the first claimer. Jeanne followed him . Fire joined the group after lane's claim and spiffeh joined recently. to be mentioned PZ had some posts while people were claiming but he didn't claimed to be investigative. that might be because he was afraid to post such a thing when others said that more than once or he is a scum who didn't know what should he claim for. A genuine town investigator would more likely claim when others are taking his sit.

Titus is desperately trying to show himself as a scum hunter. which is not funny because all he do is pretty empty assignments. he just think we must trust shos because of the flip mod stated is probably wrong. and the way he attacks jeanne since the claim shows he don't believe another town investigator in game. HE just want to prove himself earlier and kill the only treat to himself.

About jeanne . well just nothing. you sir are playing so bad I thought you might be a jester, at some point.

Fire is very careful where he is putting his net somewhere safe. never attacked anyone so far. want to clarify himself when titus and jeanne are fighting each other and wants to hear everyone's opinion. And he claimed just after lane claimed sherif. I will get him a town point because he wanted to consist he is a town investigator atm and mafia wont consist to anything that can make them trouble later.

lets talk about percentages. we have 3 slots available for random people. Killing category people more likely won't claim investigator because they can easily be found if be investigated by the real investigators. Unless about Auditor I can't find any Natural evil want to claim investigator. And a benign is a benign... why should they claim something they can't prove to be?

As there are 6 slots available for investigator claimers and 2 of them are mafia. and there is one 1/10 chance for anyone in this category to have a random slot so there is 25% chance for anyone in this category to be a mafia player. that's not promising I know , and that's because of the quantity of players who claimed this category. But if we see it vise versa there is 30% chance to have only 1 scum player here and 75% to have two. that's promising.

Titus a very slight scum-lean
Jeanne11 slightly town-lean
FireBringer slight-town-lean
Spiffeh null-slight-scum-lean

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel Official Wall Post

Town Protective

: ika, Frozen Angel, *GrayFoxxxx*

claims:
post 70 : Ika claimed to be a doc
post 134 : I know I have a town protective role
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver

Well, As I know I am a town protective role solving this one is easier for me.
Ika claimed to be a doc so early.

anyways i got a min to suggest the mass role call idea again

this is not good. why should a doctor be so anxious about mass claiming? well I can't see anything good for him in this unless he is in the scum team.
The only good possible place for him which I can see (if not a random slot) is to be a natural evil. someone who publish the idea about mass claim won't lie about his category like this.

As I know I already take 1 protective slot I can easily think Grey is in the power slot. So I will talk about him there.

for he there are 4 slots available and 1/10 chance to take a random slot so he has a 60% chance to be the natural evil.

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel Official Wall Post

Town Killing or Power: TellTaleHeart, Vedith, shos , *GrayFoxxxx*

claims:
post 94 : Vedith claimed to have a pewpew role
post 232 : GrayFoxxxx claimed to be town Bus driver
post 259 : TTH claimed to be a killing
post 418 : vedith claim to be a veteran
post 439 : Shos claim to have a power/killing role
post 474 : Shos claim to be a veteran

well! vedith is a "Sanity destroyer" . everywhere! :/ (meta!) for that he won't get full scum points for his actions! he said he can pew pew people. although he is not a jailor and not a vig (by his claims!) he asks people who should he kill tonight. then under pressure he claim to be vet. That's not funny! I'm not sure how should I react to a vet claim in this game.No one will dare to visit a vet at night. that's suicide! That's the part I can't get why should we even mass claim in this game in first place?

TTH had his upps and downs. he somehow joked about being a cultist in the beginning . started contributing his ideas to the game. He seems a bit opportunistic to me which grants him a scum point but seems to caring about the game go forwards in right direction which grants him a town point.

I can't find the reason yet. Why should lane lie!? he clearly stated he wants investigation circle tonight. a veteran wouldn't want that! that's just stupid and would make him exposed. And the whole flip thing is just nothing. We shouldn't even think about that. beside that shos seems so desperate about defending his last player "lie" as he say it is. I could believe if he was defending vise versa(telling something about why he lied not lane) but I can't sum up this.

and GrayFoxxxx claim is easily verifyable tonight. We need to ask TTH to kill bella tonight and ask grey to bus him somewhere else. bella will confirm if his claim is true or not.

about percentages. 4 people in this category . I like to put Grey in his slot for now because of the following reason so we have 3 killing claimers and 3 random slot. 1 must be the natural killing probably Mass murderer or SK because Arsenic may claim a benign makes more sense as he may not want to bellow up someone every night. there is 1/9 chance for any of them to take a random slot and they have 7 places in total to be put on. so They have nearly 60% chance to be scum.

vedith well-nothing(sanity destroyer if thats a role?!) :/
TTH very-low-town-lean
shos scum-lean
GrayFoxxxx town-lean

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel Official Wall Post

Neutral Benign

: Aristophanes

claims:
post 247 : Ari claimed to be a natural bengion
post 333 : Ari claimed to be a Survivor

well he is not for sure a jester. claiming a survivor might be from a naughty scum who want to survive! lynching him later shouldn't be of the table.

[Frozen Angel]

Firebringer explain why you think no lynching is optimal (or quote it) and who you are currently scum reading.

It confirms a jailor if we have one.

no one claimed to be one. 2 of the killings right now actually said their not one. you suggest TTH to be one then?!

[Frozen Angel]

as I think I categorized it well in my wall post I'm really happy with a shos/titus lynch and I will consider randomidget/Ika as my next prefers and . won't agree with another one right now

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I will go with whoever bella choose as I think he has no reason to betray the town

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Actually I see both of them in L4 so bella and my vote are enough to lynch any of them. that's why I want to see her opinion about my calculations.

[Frozen Angel]

Can I know the meaning of the word you said? IIoA?

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I hate this. You aren't looking at people's posts, just their claims and numbers. It doesn't maje sense for judge to claim crier, as someone will immediately suspect they are judge.

I said I used math. its not pure calculation. you posted nothing so far to be judged about. that's why I said nothing about your posts and just your claim. and IF YOU Actually read my wall post completely you could see I REALLY LOOKED FOR THEY POSTS. so your blind or afraid. which I really think its the second one.

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VOTE: Jeanne

Spoiler: le official AtE

This game is sort of frustrating the fuck out of me. I was pretty much fucked to begin with, starting with a predecessor who did jack shit and replaced out. I cannot defend because I am not attacked, he is. This sucks

you changed your votes 4 times in past 2 pages TO PROVE your frustrated? this is insane.

I'm leaning a shos lynch. You just can't beg for merci becuase it was your old players mistake. HE wasnted town dead if your claim is true.

VOTE: shos

[Frozen Angel]

well look your Iso yourself the only thing I can see from you is your eager to lynch titus (which I like)

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VOTE: Jeanne

Spoiler: le official AtE

This game is sort of frustrating the fuck out of me. I was pretty much fucked to begin with, starting with a predecessor who did jack shit and replaced out. I cannot defend because I am not attacked, he is. This sucks

you changed your votes 4 times in past 2 pages TO PROVE your frustrated? this is insane.

I'm leaning a shos lynch. You just can't beg for merci becuase it was your old players mistake. HE wasnted town dead if your claim is true.

VOTE: shos

Huh? Where did you get that from?
I change my votes according to what I think sgould be the best lynch, there is no link between the two things. Your vote looks forced as hell.

where did i get what from?! :/ the thing your changing votes as fast as you can? or the thing he wanted town investigatives dead?
forced to what? I had my votes on you some pages before. tried to give you some times so you can sort things out , but you didn't.

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Id like to express my scumlean read on FA

He is postung a LOT without saying almost anytging
IIoA is a general rule for scum in my experience, and the "walls" there had nithing in them almost.

Tgus artificial play looks scum to me.

whats "anything" in your opinion then. I shared all my views as clear as possible

why my wall thing had nothing in almost? :/ I clearly talked about everyone in game what I'm intended to do about them.

ha , nice try shos

[Frozen Angel]

I was an escort though :/ really the town protective.

I'm really anxious to see if one of the ika/randomiget guess was right or not.

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Got you

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MY trap was awesome anyway

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well I was right about 3 in 4! my calculations were all accurate. I just called some mafia's natural and naturals mafia. BUT they are all scum

[Frozen Angel]

nah I said I'm null on you

[Frozen Angel]

reference to my wall post

But you got the sanity destroyer role from me congrats

[Frozen Angel]

Poor shos

[Frozen Angel]

Well people couldn't forget it so it was for the best