Mini 1731: Diablo 3 Mafia (Game Over)

[Klazam]

First!

VOTE: ABR Hi!

First mafia game for me in quite a long while, so forgive my rustiness

pedit: goddamnit

VOTE: unvote

VOTE: firebringer

Die.

[Klazam]

K. You know, you kind of dont make sense here tso. Are you saying you think both are scum, or its that one is town, and the other one is scum forcing banter?

[Klazam]

I think i played with you before, feysal, cant remember offhand when

Tso, My main issue with your train of thought is that you feel one is scum because of forced banter then apparently randomly picks firebringer.

If its forced banter from both of them that youre reacting to, and you think one is more scummy, why randomly choose, and also, if you think one could be town, then having forced banter should be alignment neutral, eh?

[Klazam]

VOTE: unvote

VOTE: shiro

Serious vote- i get that its rvs, but this feels a lot like someone trying to hop in a pair already riffing off each other. Also the line

Sooooo I stopped there because I realised I made Metal too much of a villain.

Feels kinda out of place to me

[Klazam]

Why stop when you wrote metal sonic as a villian, and why explictly say it? Does pereception worry you?

[Klazam]

Too early to say that for me.

Same goes for everyone, obviously.

[Klazam]

VOTE: unvote
VOTE: lane0168

What did that even mean

Pretty likely. What is likely? You agreeing with the previous poster, then fencesitting?

Also no shit my reasoning is rather thin. Its the only thing i've noticed that pinged.

[Klazam]

I like you, lane.

VOTE: unvote

I do wanna you to elaborate on what "likely" means.

Likely to be town or not to be town? Your post 59 seemed to imply that you meant likely to be directed at both town/scum alignment, which is what i define as fencesitting.

Unvoted because i love your reaction to that. Pretty damn sure youre town here.

[Klazam]

And in general i vote everything that i want to vote, its a solid way of finding out things. Never be afraid to vote stuff you dont like.

[Klazam]

I think i played with you before, feysal, cant remember offhand when

Tso, My main issue with your train of thought is that you feel one is scum because of forced banter then apparently randomly picks firebringer.

If its forced banter from both of them that youre reacting to, and you think one is more scummy, why randomly choose, and also, if you think one could be town, then having forced banter should be alignment neutral, eh?

What's your opinion on this situation; do you think Fire / MS are both town, do you think one is scum, or both are scum?

no particular read on these two. just sounded like 2 people riffing off each other to me

[Klazam]

Yeah feysal. Its just how he feels to me in that reply.m

In other news, oh god so much fluff and noise... Is this the new MS meta :-/

Also deadline is in 19 days not in 1 week, and its the weekend, and the game just started, so chill out a bit on lynch all lurkers thing.

[Klazam]

We are already on the battlefield

You are at L-3

I am not at L-3.
Also I feel asleep in middle of the battle, so I forgot we were on a battlefield....

Senpai- you are scum for tunneling me.
I might also be scum because I am hypocrite and also tunneling you.

I heard only a scum deals in absolutes, but tunneling is SCUMMY!
Where is my proof? I DONT NEED PROOF!

No, but for serious MS.
What you got so far?

Also this post is giving me the jeebies.

VOTE: fire

[Klazam]

Guess tso had something when he first voted, because yeah, the post he referenced and that post above, eh.

And im tripleposting, be ause im typing on mobile device and quoting is too goddamn annonying

[Klazam]

Who's replacing out?

[Klazam]

@mod

Ebwop

[Klazam]

Okay fire. How do you know that?

[Klazam]

Shiro, yeah, saw Tony ask for replacement in the theme queue

[Klazam]

Yeah just realized about that thread, nvm me.forgot about that thing

[Klazam]

Still mostly okay with where my vote is, but i wanna try something.

I know i usually say meta is useless, because i believe it is, but i need to find a way to read players like firebringer. I apparently have issues getting a read on those people, so i wanna try this.

Fire- please link a town game of yours.

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I'm moving back east, gonna drive across the country again, so be aware that my access might be sporadic until november 10. I'll be still on my ipad so i should be able to post daily, i think. just a heads up

limited access

[Klazam]

VOTE: unvote

Not ready for lynch.

[Klazam]

l-1 = bored moron hammers after claim is forced, and im also not ready for a claim. I do want to try and suss out firebringer a bit more.

[Klazam]

Firebringer, you havent done what i asked.

link a town game of yours.

[Klazam]

also hell no im not on the fence. Im scumreading you pretty solidly. Just wanna make sure, and make use of the time we have first.

[Klazam]

specifically the way you defuse votes with humor.

pedit: Nope. i want you to specifically choose a game.

[Klazam]

VOTE: firebringer

you dont have to link a game, never mind.

Read through the first day of your most recent 10 games. This is your scumplaystyle, so im good with this.

You always append "Not serious" "this is a troll post" "joking" to your humor when youre town. Also i find in general your town tone is more serious and focused than this game.

[Klazam]

L-1

(if i didnt miss a unvote)

[Klazam]

I was meaning to question you more on why you chose a specific game to show me, but was already planning to look at more than one, but what i saw convinced me, no need for more questioning.

I also feel unsetteled by you egging me on for my vote.

[Klazam]

dude nobody has even posted. chill it a bit

[Klazam]

Shiro, lynch all lurkers is good and all, but it is not alignment-indicative. Who's your vote gonna be on, and why?

[Klazam]

Kazam.

*twitch*

[Klazam]

ABR, explain why its a mislynch.

what makes you certain hes town? Because i aint seeing it.

[Klazam]

personally all i see from shiro is "lynch all lurkers" attitude, and nothing of content. thats the only thing about shiro so far for me. Still feel firebringer is the better vote here.

[Klazam]

Exactly how does this benefit the game?

Adds unecessary noise

[Klazam]

Hi scorpious

Shiro... like, read the game. you getting in too many games, isnt an excuse. its your own fault, and you deal with it.

[Klazam]

Busy (limited access, really), will post sometime tomorrow when stuff settles down

[Klazam]

Tso, hit the link in fire's sig, iso him in the top 7-9 town games. That's what i did

[Klazam]

Not sure about brantz, been distracted, will read when I stop in a motel for the night.

[Klazam]

Tso- saw what I saw in fire's othr games?

Pedit you srs?

[Klazam]

First thought fucking fuck fb is a shit player
Second thought, this is actually pretty good.

More later when I'm not halloweening.

VOTE: unvote

Well, I'm kinda in a lull right now so might as well put thoughts down here a bit- what I'm thinking is that we could count firebringer as a hypothetical d1 mislynch and look at the wagon. For a wagon to build gas then dissolve like that, in my experience means either fb is scum and scum doesn't want to bus in that game (obviously not the case here), or that it was actually a wagon with scum trying to push it through and townies didn't want to do it.

Who was pushing fb strongly would be me, lane, expedience, and (I think) tso, so when I get a chance to so down and focus, I'll be looking at the other 3 harder. Pretty sure scum gotta be in there somewhere. I'm thinking lane might be it because of the quality of posts, but I have learnt that my initial reads are generally pretty solid, so I gotta think about it.

Any more real content from me requires detailed reading, which means tomorrow, so cya

[Klazam]

Hiplop's post bothers me too

[Klazam]

Is the multicolored diablo at bottom of mod vcs game relevant?

[Klazam]

Ok

Based on just following along with the game, hiplop looks the most scum to me. Like everything hiplop posts feels off to me.

Willing to toss down a vote on him now-
VOTE: hiplop

I'm arriving in Oklahoma tonight and spending tomorrow with family, so I'll be able to reread and see what I can glean off the fb wagon either tonight or tomorrow.

I don't agree with vrantz wagon

[Klazam]

My 2 top scumreads pushing brantz wagon and tone doesnt seem like he's scum is the big two reasons for me.

Hiplop, bit hard to explain without quotes so that gotta wait til tonight/tomorrow along with the lane/tso/expedience reread.

[Klazam]

To be honest, that was my first thought, but yeah, scorp needs to explain

[Klazam]

I've done that same kind of thing as scum before unintentionally.

[Klazam]

Specifically, as scum i looked at quality of posts, then decided to check iso if it was all the same, then voted a conftown. A townie wouldnt forget that its a conftown, but scum would because to scum its all conftowns.

Yeah,
VOTE: scorp

[Klazam]

He voted specifically based on l-2 and l-1 votes, hedges about a few other players, asks several questions without following up or drawing conclusions, then votes what is essentially a conftown at this point in the game.

Im okay with this.

[Klazam]

Eh.

[Klazam]

There's also the little factor about how im so damn exhausted during roadtripping.

VOTE: unvote scorp

With reflection, yeah, i see how this could play out with scorp being town.

yeah, honestly im not sure.

Hiplop, sorry for not posting content yet. I'll get around to it when i do. Still think you might be scum here- but feysal might be right.

RE: Lane's response just struck me as coming from town at the time, purely on gut. But that townread has gone away over time.

[Klazam]

My 2 top scumreads pushing brantz wagon and tone doesnt seem like he's scum is the big two reasons for me.

Specifically, as scum i looked at quality of posts, then decided to check iso if it was all the same, then voted a conftown. A townie wouldnt forget that its a conftown, but scum would because to scum its all conftowns.Yeah, VOTE: scorp

I'm not liking this inconsistency..

what inconsistency you talking about?

[Klazam]

i can have more than one, cant i?

Lane, hiplop was the two im referring to specifically.

and yeah, your voting masons was pretty damn scummy to me at the time.

[Klazam]

I homestly agree with brantz about 777

Sorry for not being much of around, but this is a good vote, between the mason thing and this.

VOTE: scorp

My d2 presence will be better. This has been a complicated couple of weeks for me.

[Klazam]

You want me to say it? Brantz is town. Scorp is scum, I don't know about all the others right now.

Im a bit pissed off rn- driving across the country for past 2 weeks. Tonight, right now, is when i can finally sit down and do shit. I was trying to participate when i could. Couldnt make any real in depth cases, but i was sincerly voting where i felt scum would be. Im not being bullshitty and hoppy.

If the thread is still open when i get home or if brantz actually wasnt hammered, expect a big post from me.

I dont understand why you all arent dogpiling scorp. Kadala is like the first fakeclaim i'd think of, and his reactions to the mason claim and the barb claim was horrible.

[Klazam]

No more claims please. Only helps scum at this point.

[Klazam]

Hang on

VOTE: unvote

Scorp claimed no diablo knowledge. With that in mind, the kadala claim looks much better. I think. More in a short time

[Klazam]

Now im home, and working on this.

[Klazam]

Firebringer wagon read:

TSO has HORRIBLE vote reason, i forgot that he chose randomly, which makes no sense here. (basically what i said in 49: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p7324706

I basically like expedience's posts here in this wagon, echoes how i was thinking so im ok on that.

Lane doesnt look as bad as i thought he did at that point there. (other than L-1 vote)

Looking over MS's posts, i happen to get good feelings about towness there for some reason. So that helps scorp.

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Ok, based on the wagon right there, the scum on it looks very much like it's TSO (ved)

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ISOing hiplop...

I dont fucking get it. I remember thinking you looked scummy enough to vote, but right now i dont see it. calling town here.

(Note to self for d2: If i find something scummy enough to vote, i gotta fucking do the legwork, so i can figure out what i was thinking >.>)

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Reason why i thought brantz was town amounted to how lane and hiplop was the major 2 pushing that, and now i think both are town... i confuse myself now.

But hey, right now, Im pretty sure brantz's town due to the claim, and I still like his tone, and his 777 very strongly mirrors my thinking

(call it buddying all you want)
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Okay, back to TSO/Ved-

Explain 733- Are you saying that it will clear scorp if he flips scum? what about the inverse?

Still dont like this here.
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Scorp ignoring mason claim completely to vote RC, without even mentioning it once looks pretty bad to me, so does the "Well i'm a VI" defense, but MS's riffing off firebringer seemed decent, and Scorp claiming kadala without knowledge of the source material seems like a real risky move for scum to make <I am aware coaching pregame on fakeclaims or mod-provided safeclaim may have been a factor here. Thought about that after i unvoted> 791 and 795's ATE absolutely reeks though
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Lane's claim was stupid and nonindicative of alignment at this point- as scum, i could easily attempt to fakeclaim one of the classes based on what brantz posted already.

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Town:
RC
FB
Brantz
Hiplop
Expedience

???
Shiro- I cant read shiro, idk why
ABR- Im wary of abr, hes good at hat he does, would be in townpile if not for this reason
Feysal- kinda dropped off the radar, seems reasonable to me though
lane- hardcore tunneling brantz and abr thing seems iffy, but my inital gut impression was that he was town, and stupidclaim was stupid


Scum

Scorp
Ved

VOTE: Scorp But i would prefer ved if we can pull that together with the time we have left.

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Yes i just reread the game, if something i said seems confusing, contradictory, or doesnt make sense, ask something, im hella tired but will stay up a while longer.

[Klazam]

Expedience- Because 777 exactly mirrored how i was thinking when i read it.

RC- can you explain why? I remeber thinking that, but now on my read through, i dont see it anymore...

[Klazam]

Nothing changed for me

VOTE: scorp

[Klazam]

VOTE: firebringer


That shit not funny, rc.

Fire, why did you coast on it, and not call it out?

[Klazam]

Also, i tip my hat to you, scorp. Looks like im wrong on several fundamental assumptions.

[Klazam]

...

<hangs head>

Lets just lynch this. Im depressed.

[Klazam]

Why would scum know it's a untrue claim? That doesnt quite make sense to me

[Klazam]

Based on what hiplop?

[Klazam]

not townreading scorp, its just that im rather certian that fire is scum and less sure about scorp, thats all

assumptions that i was wrong with- no way in hell someone would fakeclaim mason, the other guy would just go along with it, and only moronic scum would vote claimed masons.

honestly the firebringer + scorp angle didnt even cross my mind. doesnt make sense to me anyway- RC claims masons with firebringer, firebringer doesnt shut it down, Scorp votes RC

-if scorp succeeds in lynching RC, that exposes firebringer as being bullshitty, which gets him lynched. seems like a rather roundabout way of bussing.

so yeah, im scumreading them both, fire more than scorp, but i doubt theyre scum together.

[Klazam]

Nope no wep for me

[Klazam]

Translation, rc says that if scorp gave vedith a weapon, rc is voting scorp

Rc, chill. You're raging without reason

[Klazam]

I don't do assocativetells without a flip. Iif fire flips scum, I reevaluate, if he doesn't, I still reevaluate.

I gave reasoning why I doubt they're scummates.

Wavery- is right, I hate d1s, and I end up doubting my reads a lot. Was more sure of scorp towards the end of day- if you doubt this because I gave a few reasons why he might be town- i don't realm go back to edit my posts, I just lay out stuff as i think, and I try to consider all angles.
Not townreading scorp, its just that fore is my primary scumtead above all else given rvs, wagonhopping, and the lolhammer-along with acting as though he's conftown mason.

If yourewonddring, third potential scum im looking at is vedith, as I aid earlier based on tso's post in eAarlyfame, with suspecting one of two is scum and picking randomly.

Apologies for all typos, typing this on phone is painful for me because tiny keyboard

[Klazam]

Rc I'm pissedthat brant wagon went through too, but um...

More pissedthat you derailed fire wagon by claiming mason, so there

[Klazam]

Scorp, explain your hunch. Why vedith?

[Klazam]

you were the last one to reply. everyone else said no weapon, and scorp implied he DID give out a weapon

[Klazam]

idk, i feel amused by this.

havent decided what it means

fire still scum

[Klazam]

RC is right in that the question was pretty leading.

[Klazam]

Unprompted monk claim really makes me think lane's town.

Alao vedith and fire getting scummier by the post.

[Klazam]

I've explained how your town posting and your posting this game differs.

Cant speak for vedith, but vedith's posts so far is disturbing, and that tso post is the major scumread i have on vedith.

[Klazam]

VOTE: firebringer

you dont have to link a game, never mind.

Read through the first day of your most recent 10 games. This is your scumplaystyle, so im good with this.

You always append "Not serious" "this is a troll post" "joking" to your humor when youre town. Also i find in general your town tone is more serious and focused than this game.

For reference

[Klazam]

Stop what

[Klazam]

if im reading that correctly,

VOTE: scorpius

[Klazam]

Vedith, scorp is now implying that he gave abr a weapon, so that's still up in the air.

I think that lane is town based on the monk claim, really. He could be stupid, doubt that what he said is a slip.

[Klazam]

*headdesk*

Still gonna say that lane isnt scum.

Feysal, you jokey, or am i reading your post right?

[Klazam]

@RC Why do you think lane claimed monk day 1?

This is the sticking point for me. a unprompted claim that could potentially be dangerous to claim.

MOD- can you confirm whether or not scum gets fakeclaims/safeclaims this game?

[Klazam]

yeah flawed logic shiro

[Klazam]

Not voting lane.

Youre too far in the tunnel here i think.

[Klazam]

Thank you feysal.

[Klazam]

Less strong = scum or weak town read?

[Klazam]

If weak town, why townreading fire? Thats my question.

[Klazam]

This isnt as straightforward as i hoped it would be.

But i still think scorp is scum, so this gels woth that, anyway

[Klazam]

Okay yeah i feel better about that.

[Klazam]

That is also my explanation.

[Klazam]

no blocks from me

Interesting point about vedith tho.

[Klazam]

So what, do all the nephalem have piles of abilities?

I'm REALLY not sure how i should be taking this

[Klazam]

Attacked nobody.

Im fucking depressed, Every scumread i've had turns out not to be scum.

Last scumread is vedith, but now im not sure if vedith is scum, or he's a barbarian using ignore pain.

[Klazam]

he didn't seem like he wanted to figure out a way for him to live till today so that pretty much secured his lynch.

He, him, his all referring to scorp?

[Klazam]

Yeah, im not scum.

Not playing great this game, though, i'll give you that.

Waiting on rc's thing.

Question for rc- why sneak in your "no attack" in while updating chart for abr? Why not mention it directly?

[Klazam]

I do not have an attack.

[Klazam]

My fucking computer crashed mid-post

A really long and rambly post.

Important part- we have 4 essentially conftowns here,

Feysal, rc, lane, and shiro

We are one lynch away from lylo, so catching scum would be nice here. Im thinking vedith is a good lynch, suspecting him of being magda (witch queen thing with a shield based on minions's life, which translates roughly to bulletproof godfather here i think)

VOTE: vedith

And before hiplop/expedience/abr says anything, yes there is a very good reason why i dont have an attack, and no, i'm not gonna claim why.

[Klazam]

Im ok with a hiplop lynch btw. The claim seems a bit confused to me.

[Klazam]

I am also willing to sheep whatever conftownbloc decides.

VOTE: hiplop

[Klazam]

Im non nephalem, yep.

[Klazam]

Before lynch happens, i really want vedith to specifically claim the section of his pm that has allowed him to live thus far. Fullclaim probably isnt necessary, but the part that makes him so damn tanky in particular.

Paranoia just stuck me. Rc, Can you claim the flavorname for what resurrected shiro?

[Klazam]

someone tell me what to do.

[Klazam]

Oh you want to know my 3 abilities:

Sure, now that there is no reason to keep them hidden, why not.

War Cry: Reduce damage taken by 20% tonight.
Battle Rage: 10% increased damage and 5% increased critical hit chance tonight.
Ground Stomp: Stun anyone who targets you with an ability tonight. Effectively an AoE roleblock.

You keep being smug over there Vedith, if the town can figure out what is good for them I'll see you in the dead thread real soon.

This doesnt quite jibe with your claim.

explanation pls

[Klazam]

hmm.

I could go for vedith.

[Klazam]

Elaborate

[Klazam]

That aint helpful.

Gonna wait for others to talk.

[Klazam]

I need vedith to claim everything about his ability to not die.

Very important.

[Klazam]

I need exact claim to how you are unkillable in your next post.

[Klazam]

Wizard

Not nephalem

VOTE: vedith

[Klazam]

Can an actual nephalem confirm this?

VOTE: unvote

Vedith, describe to me what your teleport alibity does and how it allows you to survive damage.

[Klazam]

And me.

[Klazam]

(necromancers's not in this game)

[Klazam]

Wait no, you're right, I just remembered the npc necro in the desert map.

[Klazam]

Yep. Mylo did occur to me- i said as much in the previous day.

Feysal keeps on speaking sense. I wholeheartedly agree with feysal.

I find the claim impossible to believe.

[Klazam]

I'm not wizard, no.

Im not a nephalem.

[Klazam]

zappdity Zam, RC's scum

That is a fucking invesigative claim

then you try to pass it off as "Oh, its impossible for town-rc to save shiro over firebringer, regardless of firrebringer's alignment"

what.the.fuck.

I'd gladly hammer this.

in fact, i will.

VOTE: vedith

[Klazam]

xplain to me why you were fakeclaiming a guilty? please?

also wtf at the mod if your claim was true, but ok, thats a discussion for postgame

[Klazam]

Do scum just not have a nightkill?

[Klazam]

Thinking about it, im pretty sure my personal victory is assured right now.

I am Zoltun Kulle.

Essentially, i'm a bulletproof survivor with no other alibites. Flavor fluff basically says im near impossible to get rid of, and i cant hurt others because im a ghost. And i only care about possession of the horadric cube, not about who wins the battle.

I've been playing as town for basically the whole game, i couldnt believe vedith, because having two bulletproofs in the same game was silly to me, and he could attack people on top of that, and then he claims invesigative role, all that was so over the top, hence me complaining about game balance. And yes, everything said about me fencesitting earlier in the game is true. I was thinking that was the job of the survivor.

Way i figure it- scum will be glad to have me lynched, because numberwise i'm essentially a townie to them, and they cant get rid of me. On the same note, town should not want to lynch me, because -if there is 3 scum- it opens up the real possiblity of a endgaming by scum.

Time to out one of the most important pieces of information i've gotten since start of the game- i did not recieve a fakeclaim or safeclaim of any kind. So following that logic, scum did not either. (This explains why i went so hard for hiplop. I legit thought hiplop was scum trying to fakeclaim and fucking it up.)

Shiro, lane, and feysal should be considered conftown right now due to this. Look at how carefully abr and expedience did not claim anything of substance. RC's claim has been incredibly weird.

If there is 3 scum, i'd bet the horadic cube in my hands that it is those three.

If there's 2 scum, i would say its abr that is scum- active lurking the entire game. Then its a coinflip between RC's extremely weird claims and expedience going after the easy lynchbait, which has been me the last few days.

any questions?


And unfortunately, given my status as a survivor, i feel obligated to warn you all that i will hammer the first person to reach L-1. Im playing to win after all. But at the same time i know that i cannot be feasibly lynched today without town involvement, and with town involvement in my lynch, it gaurnatees a scum win.

[Klazam]

Explaining why rc's claim has been weird- revival from death is a nepahalem alibity, not a npc alibity. If it was removing all damage, i would buy rc being a healer in town, but revival is the part that i find odd.

[Klazam]

Thinking about it, i suspect it is 3 scum because me not having a damaging alibity or a kill and being bulletproof essentially balances the game because i become,numberswise, a townie. And scum could probably have been hitting me, relieving the pressure on the town.

[Klazam]

And if there actually is 2 scum, today isnt lylo. Tomorrow is.

[Klazam]

... wow

okay.

TBF, ABR, i kinda feel you personally dont deserve the win. But RC's play has been pretty damn solid the entire game.

Feysal too.

Kinda of a hard position for me to decide between.

[Klazam]

ok, re framing this as who do i want to lose the game the most?

Vedith.

[Klazam]

this throws a wrench in everything now lol.

let me make this clear. Right now, what i want to do is to win.

I will take actions that will lead me to that win.

I am still undecided on who else i want to win.

get one one each team to l-1 and i'll decide.

[Klazam]

so...

what can i do right now?

-i want to reiterate- if a townie votes me right now, they gaurnatee a scum win. by all 3 voting one of the claimed scum, and by all the scum voting one of the 3 townies, both factions STILL has a chance to win. so that is the only way to play this game out right now.

[Klazam]

I am counting this game as a personal win for me. I am okay with consensus.

[Klazam]

mod just refused the ending of the game.

someone has to be lynched.

kind of an anticlimatic ending to the game

[Klazam]

(I pmed him asking)

Shiro- it is aganist your win con because you gaurnatee town loss along with my own loss.

if you do not vote me, town still ahs a chance to win.

[Klazam]

I will promise that i wont vote expedience.

ABR will be the scum i can vote for since he just claimed scum

boom there. feel better, shiro?

pedit: i laughed

[Klazam]

i nearly claimed it yesterday to counterclaim vedith

then when vedith seemed to be flailing, i felt i didnt need to out it

also, in a non-lylo situation, town will always vote claimed survivors to gaurnatee that this kinda shit doesnt happen in lylo.

pedit, also what shiro said

[Klazam]

then when all the scum's dead, then game no end, town lynches me.

[Klazam]

I was worried that there were 2 scum not 3, so no quickhammer would happen.

[Klazam]

no, its the reason why i did not vote at day open.

and now that abr posted, im deciding between town and scum.

there's also the factor that if i voted a townie, town could conceivably gaurnatee my loss along with theirs.

instead this is the only way i can play to my win con, as i see it.

[Klazam]

if scum decided they wanted sole victory, what happens then? thats my fear.

unless youre promising me you wont vote me?

[Klazam]

VOTE: Lane

there you go.

[Klazam]

actually, isnt feysal the stronger role?

[Klazam]

k

[Klazam]

you meant scum cant lose, right?

[Klazam]

Sorry tony. I was bullshitting my way with those balance comments.

Pm:

You are a Treasure Goblin.
You don't really care about the giant battle between good and evil going on in the town, you just want to collect your treasure and be on your way.

Every night you will have some chance of escaping through a portal.
You should know that the better shape the town is in, the better your chances of escaping are.

If you don't escape, you should at least avoid dying.
You wouldn't want those filthy Nephalems stealing all the loot you've worked so hard for?

You win if you escape, or if you survive until the end.


Please confirm that you have understood your role. Day 1 will begin friday.

[Klazam]

And i knew since the hiplop lynch i was only gonna win with the scum. I voted vedith knowing he was most likely town.

[Klazam]

Ah i see tony.

I honestly thought that if nobody attacked me during noght it'd be my win, but you confiremd that it was not the case

Made sense to me with how treasure goblin mechanics worked

And yes. You had me fooled.

And in d5 i started thinking that maybe i was wrong and there were only 2 scum, in which case i would be better off winning with the town

[Klazam]

Essentially. But i had a vanilla survivor role with no alibities whatsover.

Considering that basically every townie had a way to hurt stuff...

[Klazam]

Unrelated the end of the game,

How do i read vi's like firebringer and vedith?

Rc, your mason claim was fucking brillantly executed.

[Klazam]

Uh, feysal got a weapon? What happened there, then?

[Klazam]

Could i see scum qt?

[Klazam]

Thats kind of fucked up >.>

[Klazam]

So scum got safeclaims after all...

Why didnt someone claim earlier? All your lack of claims were kind of obviously making you stand out.

[Klazam]

Shrug. Guess so.

[Klazam]

How was my activity this game?