⅋ - THE WICK WAS TURNED DOWN. THE FLUTE WAS BLOWN INTO.

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VOTE: Shiro

I know no one else , so lets start from here ...

This is town.

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VOTE: Shiro

I know no one else , so lets start from here ...

This is town.

But your post is not. I learnt the hard way that I shouldn't appreciate being town readed so fast.

I don't care.
Maybe you will learn the hard way that sometimes that will happen
But if you care, i townread you because you decided to start off engaging the person that, according to you, is the only one that knows your playstyle, which can be dangerous if you're scum.

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VOTE: vonflare

You know what you did!

This on the other hand is not a town post, old grudges are a good idea for scum to use as a way to not look too fishy with their first vote.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
I was hoping for at least something for my out of nowhere townread on FA, this is weird.

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I'm a Druid.

I can win with the Romans

This is a lie, lynch all liars
VOTE: BBMolla

why shouldnt you

VOTE: Aristo

Our first game together on MS and not even a hi?, im sad AT.

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Also scum points to everyone that ignored BBMolla claiming Druid saying they can win with Romans, when our role PM says we need to eliminate the mage and druids.

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Oh wait, nevermind, that doesnt make any sense either...

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I literally either have to die or win for you all to win.

Yeah I noticed that too afterwards, oh well back here
VOTE: GuiltyLion

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Also, is AT Nos or ArosTophanes?

Nos
And hi!

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I just want to know if there's anything more to them

Not really, but it's good enough for the ammount of info out there right now for me.

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This is interesting...
I was thinking that BBMolla claiming ensures he wins unless another druid claims.
Then I realized that he could be the Mage fake claiming Druid, and the Mage also has the list of names.

This is an interesting setup, it's gonna be hard to crack.

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So Art is town, good to know.

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Finally something that i dont hate out of GuiltyLion.
VOTE: Nosferatu
Anyway, i was trying to think of a plan that could confirm FA as either Mage or Druid, we all Agree that FA must target a certain person (I guess BBMolla in this case) while every other druid must target someone else, if no one targeted the person we agreed on, then FA is confirmed Mage, otherwise FA is confirmed Druid.
What do you guys think of this plan?

Game is in a bad state, 2 no votes and I don't like the votes from Nosferatu, pistachi0n, or vonflare. Let's get some wagons going!

I totally agree with this.
I'm not liking Nosferatu nor Shiro this game, but Nosferatu just seems to go with the flow. Shiro reminds me of her usual self however.
Nosferatu seems to keep his vote on Art since RVS without commenting on anything Art is doing, and i also find it boggling that he's avoiding me considering I've played with him quite a few times off-site. Regardless his lack of doing anything reminds me of his last scumgame.

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Hey!
Nosferatu!
Any reason why you're avoiding me?

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the other two druids can't target BBmola anymore. I will target him and I will be confirmed druid for that.

I had missed that in the sample role PMs.
Now, Let's assume you become confirmed druid, wouldn't this make the other 2 druids lose if we never lynch you? What do you think the other druids would do to pursue their win condition?
As a Druid, it is obvious that you'll target BBMolla to confirm your druidness, and if you're a mage it's important that whoever druid didn't target BBMolla doesn't do so to keep you lynchable, so you're becoming either conf or not by tomorrow anyhow and the mage can't kill you.
I've been wondering what kind of safeguard strategy would the other 2 use in this case, will they claim and let town decide which druid wins while we hunt the mage?.

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Ok let's see

Mage has to kill at least 4 Romans either by lynch or NK and cant hit Druids.
Druid has to lynch the other 2 druids before Mage wins (i think?)
Romans have to lynch 2 druids and a Mage.

That being said, Druid would probably not win if 4 Romans die, and we'd also lose if 4 Romans die even after Mage is dead.

WCS: Day there's 7/3/1 We lynch a Roman that's a 6/3/1 afterwards then 5/3/1, if we ML again, 4/3/1 and mage kills roman (60% chance wow... well higher with 1 druid outed) 3/3/1 Mage wins.
I'm starting to think that it becomes harder to win the more druids claim, but then it also becomes harder for them to win. Wonder if Druids lose if Mage wins?
I'm just wondering if it's worth it to lynch FA at some point to prevent Romans from losing, but that's her fault for claiming Druid i suppose. We will just have to see where we stand on D2 I guess but im not lynching her D1.
So a Druid claiming makes it incredibly more likely for Mage to NK Romans and hence, win before they do, I guess that's a good incentive for them to not claim and the game was probably balanced that way.

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Also BBMolla getting confirmed as Not Druid makes him more likely to draw a NK unless the Mage wants to play the high risk high reward game or unless he's the Mage (which i doubt for now).
The Mage should've probably received the same list druids got and probably came to the conclusion that BBMolla was confirmed druid at the point he decided to claim considering 2 of them targeted Molla and one didn't, I guess i'll look for anything that looks like that there.

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I guess i'll look for anything that looks like that there.

And i'm coming up with a blank because anyone barely paid any attention to it either except FA, who will be sorted tomorrow anyway =/

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There are a few holes in that logic, she'll become either conf druid or conf mage tomorrow so there's no way she'll live to MYLO if she's Mage anyhow as i explained earlier unless a Druid wants her to live.
Why wont druids want to lynch the Mage? Mage's existance makes it more likely romans will die, and they could just claim and try to make town decide which of the druids wins, you're discounting other possibilities. That being said, they def. should NOT claim before the Mage dies, since it'll make it guaranteed someone will die during the night.

P-Edit: Oh yeah forgot about that, BBMolla's obvious but im not sure where he's reaching that conclusion.

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Didn't think I was avoiding you.

I've mentioned you twice, and you even ignored my vote on you, nor are you commenting on anything of mine other than that post.

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Actually I just realized that FA is conf druid at this point. Phone posting so I'll explain when I get home.

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No, it's not about whether we doubt she's a druid or we think she's being truthful...
Well rather is how i think i would deal with the situation if i was a mage or a druid, see, if she's not a druid/mage or is faking the list, i'd think the mage or a druid would jump at it instantly and counter claim the list, in addition she claimed to be the single person that didn't submit BBMolla, if she was the mage fake claiming i'd expect the druid who actually didn't send BBMolla as a name to be counter claiming that as well. Due to the lack of counters she's pretty much confirmed druid at this point.

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3 - Shiro : I have no reason to think she is not town atm.

Uh what?

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Prodge.
Been busy all weekend.

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I figured there was something off with Nosferatu avoiding me.
What is the list FA?

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I think we should just play it safe and No Lynch until the information confirms who is a Druid.

Yeah, that's what i was thinking, i want to know FA's list first tho.

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VOTE: No Lynch

this setup is kind of broken tbh

I somewhat agree, it's a really awkward setup.

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Dunno why FA's saying that we won the game

Because of her

but she was the only other person hard pushing for a Nos lynch yesterday so i dont mind letting her be the druid that wins, wish the other 2 would just claim so we can lynch them instead of going through this process that will take several game days to finish and find the other 2 =/

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Is there any chance whatsoever that we can kill frozen angel.

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No
VOTE: vonflare

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If you were Roman, you wouldn't care whether FA gets lynched or not since you win either way as long as 2 of the 3 druids die, since you're so obsessed with her being lynched, you're a druid.

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I agree that this isn't how a game should go, but we can then have a nice talk with the mod post game about it, right now im playing to win, and that means i need to lynch 2 druids and so the 3rd can win and there's nothing they can do about it.

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nah it is pretty broken

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If your setup relies on a single role for it to not be broken, then your setup is still broken.
Anyway all this setup discussion should be saved for post game, it'd make our lives easier if the last druid claimed or gave up or something.

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Why is vonflare still alive.

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VOTE: Pistachion
I'm ok with this.

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So who else is confirmed not druid FA?

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i'm seriously considering No Lynch > Lynch > No Lynch > Lynch to avoid a happily ever after and to avoid making the mage win, what do you guys think?

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Yeah probably
VOTE: Not Mafia