Mini 1746: Molla's Grand Idea Mafia

[Skybird]

/confirm

Morning everyone!

[Skybird]

VOTE: GuiltyLion because he's guilty.

[Skybird]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

[Skybird]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I don't like this. The first part feels buddyi-ish, and the second part feels like he

wants

us to think there's scum on the wagon.

I don't buddy anyone. This post was me thinking outloud. As town it's better to get our thoughts out there.

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I'm not against the votes on him, this is the best way to go forward and add pressure.
Even if scum are on him, it doesn't make him town.

Very true. It's just been my experience so far that the first quick wagon is almost always on town. But before you reply, understand that I am not trying to imply Diego is town.

[Skybird]

Diego looks town
Lucky looks town
Vedith looks probably?town. In the past he has only RVS voted me when he's scum but I think he might be finally adjusting his meta

VOTE: Klazam

Skybird is a ball of WIFOM that is gonna be impossible for me to read.

Very true. It's just been my experience so far that the first quick wagon is almost always on town.

But before you reply, understand that I am not trying to imply Diego is town.

Why bring this up at all if you're not going to use it to start developing your reads? If you were to know for a fact there was scum in those votes, would that affect your read on Diego? Do you think Diego's scumread on you is genuine?

I was trying to anticipate the next comment/question from

Verdith

, since he was the one I was responding to. I figured if I left the post at "the first quick wagon is almost always on town" Verdith would have wanted to know if I thought Diego is town.

Iam using it to start to figure people out. I honestly don't know what Diego is yet. I think him trying to say I was buddying him was weird. 1 post does not a buddy make. If anything I would call Diego cautious town except for the buddying thing. I've never played with Diego so I don't know how genuine his scum read is. For now, I think he's looking for reactions. If I knew there was scum in that train, I still wouldn't know if this was bussing or opportunistic scum jumping on the quick wagon.

What do you think of Diego so far? Have you played with him before?

[Skybird]

Votecount 1.02

Klazam - 4 - Lucky2u, GuiltyLion, SirCakez, HERRMMMMM
GuiltyLion - 2 - Vedith, Skybird
Lucky2u - 2 - BulletNLynchproof, Klazam
Diego1487 - 4 - dramonic
Vedith - 1 - Davsto
dramonic - 1 - hi im Yakko

Not Voting: Diego1487, Flubbernugget

Deadline: (expired on 2015-12-29 21:29:00)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

@Mod, is this correct? Does Dram have 4 votes?

[Skybird]

Above post probably isn't clear. I mean is Dram a quadruple voter since Diego shows with 4 votes.

[Skybird]

I think it's hilarious that Ika is the Innocent Child. Everyone in the game should be aware though if you put someone at L-1 that person will be lynched (if Hermmmm) isn't already on the wagon. Ask for claims at L-2.

[Skybird]

Above post probably isn't clear. I mean is Dram a quadruple voter since Diego shows with 4 votes.

I wish.

You are being pretty quiet Dram. What do you think of the game so far?

[Skybird]

Since it sounds like you are trying to change your playing style, and you are confirmed town, who do you think is scum so far?

[Skybird]

For info purposes, hermm will lol hammer?

He has done it in the past. From post 180 it sounds like he doesn't want to do that anymore.

[Skybird]

[quote="In It's basically a newbie game and people are unvoting diegoscum which is sad.

drammy baby, you town this game? how sure are you on diego? Can you explain exactly why you think that?

His responses in general feel super off. He sounds a lot more like he wants to be agreeable than actually trying to get something done.

I've not played with diego before. I know I don't like the feel of his posts but I didn't get that he was trying to be agreeable. Can you go into this more?

[Skybird]

i kinda want to lynch flubber or dave atm

VOTE: flub

Why?

[Skybird]

why is that voteworthy?

I just dont think that highly of ika.

It's not your dislike for ika that's the issue. It's the fact that you're upset he's the innocent child.

Wait a second, why answer for yakko?

Yeah why are you trying to buddy obvious town diego?

Yeah lucky why are you questioning flubber because he's caught up and has nothing? The gall lucky the filthy gall you have.

Klazam responded to me with an apology or an excuse not sure which not sure it matters. It indicates scum imo. He was assuming what my vote was about and proffered an explanation for me to unvote. Thats how I interpreted it anyways.

VOTE: diego because reasons

I'm not following your two posts here. Were you being sarcastic in post 171? Or did you just turn around and vote a town read?

[Skybird]

Skybird - Like GL has said, didn't like preemptiveness and cautiousness at the end of #60. Also didn't like her questions of "Who are you scumreading?" and the IIOA of ika lolhammering.

VOTE: hi im Yakko

What IIOA with regards to Ika and his voting habits? It is a statement of fact that in the past ika lolhammers and he does it as either alignment. There's nothing to analyze on that. I said it so if there was anyone in the game that didn't know of this trait, it won't catch someone by surprise.

Asking people questions is how I get involved in a game. I really don't care if you don't like my questions.

[Skybird]

@Mod, I'll be V/LA from the 24th through the 28th.

[Skybird]

Happy Scum Day Diego!

So far I'm leaning town on Vedith and we all know Hermm is town.

Herrmmm, what are you guys thinking?

[Skybird]

Not sure which way to go on Diego. It would be great to have a town quad voter but if he's scum, ugh.

I didn't like his post where he stated he was going to build a town block, like he was encouraging us to believe him to be town.

VOTE: Diego

[Skybird]

Would you have rather my vote go to you SirCakez?

If he is a scum quad voter, he is too dangerous to keep in the game. That's why I voted.

[Skybird]

I have to disagree with you there. I'm not seeing Dram as scum right now.

[Skybird]

Just got home. let me catch up.

[Skybird]

Dramonic and Skybird: Why do you want to lynch Diego, a quadruple voter? Already said he's a forced kill from scum.

I'd want to lynch him tomorrow if he's still alive though. Will tell you more tomorrow.

If he's scum, he's extremely powerful, if he's town and he chooses wrong, he will

hand scum the win

help scum win.

[Skybird]

Something something doesn't every town player help scum win when they choose wrong? Like, I don't see how Diego having his four-vote is any worse than any of us having votes. All he needs to do is be careful with his vote because it can easily lynch, something which I know that Diego is intelligent enough to do, given he didn't participate in RVS etc.

Well, Dav's town.
Lets face it, mod will not let someone have 4 votes with an assumed team of 3.
That's 6 votes (7 if they go with a town voting randomly).
If there is no night kills for town, then it's a guarantee win for scum from day 1.
Diego is town for me purely on that basis.

Been trying to find holes in this or a reason to disagree but I'm not finding one.

UNVOTE:

[Skybird]

Not happy seeing RC again so soon. He just death-tunneled me in a game where I was the cop and ALL of his reads were shit. Fortunately scum killed him N1.

[Skybird]

Something something doesn't every town player help scum win when they choose wrong? Like, I don't see how Diego having his four-vote is any worse than any of us having votes. All he needs to do is be careful with his vote because it can easily lynch, something which I know that Diego is intelligent enough to do, given he didn't participate in RVS etc.

Well, Dav's town.
Lets face it, mod will not let someone have 4 votes with an assumed team of 3.
That's 6 votes (7 if they go with a town voting randomly).
If there is no night kills for town, then it's a guarantee win for scum from day 1.
Diego is town for me purely on that basis.

Been trying to find holes in this or a reason to disagree but I'm not finding one.

UNVOTE:

What? Why are you trying to find holes?

He's putting forth reasoning for Diego to be town. I evaluated his statement because that's what you do in this game to find scum. Why didn't you evaluate the statement? Are you scum and you already know Diego is town?

[Skybird]

You were running away from my questioning :S

No, I answered your questions but you choose to read everything I said as scummy.

[Skybird]

I mean I sorta resent the fact that you don't want to play with me because I played a game with bad reads.

everyone has bad reads sometimes and some people have bad reads consistently and I don't see people saying that they don't want to play with them all the time

I'll replace out if you want tho

I don't want you to replace out.

I never said I didn't want to play with you. I just said I wasn't happy to see you again so soon. There's a huge difference. If I didn't want to play with you I wouldn't have said anything at all and just asked the mod to replace me. I'd have said this a few days ago but the thread was closed by the time I got home.

[Skybird]

VOTE: Yakko
His interactions with RC have me convinced this is scum.

It was 444 and 458 that nailed it for me. The claim request had nothing to do with it.

The second post you linked (458) had absolutely nothing to do with the game. I don't see how the first post (444) is a scum post either.

VOTE: SirCakez

[Skybird]

The things I said when RC replaced in had nothing to do with the game. Yakko was commenting back to RC about my comment and RC's response. The only thing majorly game related was the deja vu part where he's saying he's town. And guess what? Yakko flipped town.

Have you read Dram's ISO? I'm not seeing a lot that I would call scum posting in it. So what do you have on Dram besides a naked vote?

[Skybird]

Jealous that two people get to be multivoters.

[Skybird]

Skybird, how are your reads looking?

I'm town-reading you and Diego, which scares me a bit because having two town multivoters seems a bit much for town.

Not sure what to think of Dramonic. I'm not seeing anything that really hits me as scummy but he doesn't feel like he is engaged in the game yet. Verdith is still a town read for me.

For scum, SirCakez is lighting up my scumdar the most. He's posting and asking questions but I don't see much by way of reads and he's not pushed on anyone yet.

[Skybird]

I mean I like your reads but they do straight up follow thread mentality, so I'm going to need to see something further to townread your slot.

No problem.

Diego - 272 felt sincere to me. I liked how he handled showing us he was a quad voter. Then 326 was very town.

RC - I liked your entrance into the game. I liked your thought process in 373. I also didn't feel like the person you replaced was scum (Flubbernugget).

Dramonic - I liked his response to my question about Diego. 198 I had asked him why he thought Diego was too agreeable. But several of his posts are just comments that don't really advance the game. (120, 228, 232.) I don't see him actively asking questions or engaging others in the game. He answers if you ask him something or he comments on something, but he's not engaged.

Verdith - He was active D1, questioning people and pointing out things that looked wrong. (55, 57, 73) I would like to see him start posting again. I don't think he's posted D2.


SirCakez - Most of D1 I thought he was probably town. He did a naked vote on Vedith in post 162. On D2, he votes Dram for a naked vote. (480) I see a disconnect in that. He does a naked vote but then calls someone scum for a naked vote. I also didn't like his reasoning in post 462 and that earned him a vote.

[Skybird]

Skybird, how are your reads looking?

For scum, SirCakez is lighting up my scumdar the most. He's posting and asking questions but I don't see much by way of reads and he's not pushed on anyone yet.

I've articulated my reads, while not all of them at once, and I've pushed multiple people. Hell I opened the day with a vote on someone who's done nothing to change my mind.

SirCakez - Most of D1 I thought he was probably town. He did a naked vote on Vedith in post 162. On D2, he votes Dram for a naked vote. (480) I see a disconnect in that. He does a naked vote but then calls someone scum for a naked vote. I also didn't like his reasoning in post 462 and that earned him a vote.

I had reasoning behind my vote on Vedith, specifically the blatant ignoring of a question aimed at him. So far the only motivation from Dramonic I've seen for his vote is "not wanting to run out of time to hammer" which is bogus since Diego has his 4 votes.
What do you object to in 462?

Please show me where you've pushed some people. The only two reads I see in your ISO is town Vedith and scum Klazam.

Does Dram control Diego's votes?

[Skybird]

@Skybird

Spoiler:

458 was related to the game, reread it.
Second kill was definitely a vig
Why weren't you on the Yakko wagon RC?
VOTE: Dramonic because his naked Yakko vote was bad

Pushing Dramonic

His terrible day long tunnel on Diego
Ok RC

Pushing Dramonic

VOTE: Yakko
His interactions with RC have me convinced this is scum.

Pushing Yakko

It was 444 and 458 that nailed it for me. The claim request had nothing to do with it.

Pushing Yakko

What do you think of dramonic Yakko?

Pushing Yakko

So you just want to put it off?

Pushing Yakko

^ is garbage and illogical.

Pushing Yakko

I can get with a Yakko wagon, definitely preferable to the Diego one.

@mod V/LA until Jan 3rd

Pushing Yakko

If we are lynching Diego, then it's better to do it today to get rid of the arguing over him faster. Scum isn't going to shoot him.

That being said, I'd much rather stay with the Klazam lynch. Diego is still a townread and I hate lynching solely over how his role might be dangerous if he's scum.

Reads on Klazam and Diego

I'm getting ready to call you scum

ok?

it's confirmed he's a quadvoter. How is that alone antitown? I'm not seeing it.

Then you're either incredibly oblivious, or incredibly dumb.
A quadvoter is pretty much a dayvig that ends the day.

So if he makes an obviously antitown vote that ends the day or lynches someone withotu a claim then he's extremely antitown. Right now he's not.

Pushing Dramonic

Not sure which way to go on Diego. It would be great to have a town quad voter but if he's scum, ugh.

I didn't like his post where he stated he was going to build a town block, like he was encouraging us to believe him to be town.

VOTE: Diego

If you're not sure which way to go, then why did you place a vote in the same post?

So there is a possibility of him being scum. Dammit.

shocker

im considering this, and honestly,

if diego's town

, we have this game well in the bag- 5 votes between

diego and hermmm

. If we go to night, and all

protective roles

choose randomly between both of them, then i dont think that scum can win outside of a mislynch on diego, which could be incredibly hard to pull off.

Look at all those awful, awful conditions.

How is "diego and hermmmm" a condition?

Pushing Skybird and Dramonic

VOTE: Klazam
Rejoining this wagon since I only left it to vote Vedith
I'd vote Flubber for doing literally nothing but like the Klazam wagon better

Pushing Klazam and Flubber

Yeah lucky why'd you roll scum this game?

This post feels really off to me. Can't tell if it's a joke or not

RVS is not in town interest? Then why has this site been doing it every game for years?

RVS is only there to start people talking.
It means nothing in game as it's so easy to make a standard RVS even as scum.

I know that, but it's in town's best interests to start talking, no?
I don't like the Diego wagon. It formed far too quickly for something relatively benign imo.
The Klazam wagon is one I agree on. VOTE: Klazam
His only two posts have been jumping on wagons as they form with little/bad reasoning for his votes.

Read on Diego, pushing Klazam

Most of these seem like legit pushes. Skybird missed this how?

Because he doesn't bother to state who he's talking to or about. Reading his ISO does not show he's pushing Dram.

[Skybird]

Skybird, any special feels on the associatives between Klazam and Cakez?

Sorry I didn't get to this sooner RC. They interact about RVS vs. RQS and Cakez ends up calling Klazam scum and states more than once that he'd prefer a Klazam lynch. But he ends up voting for Yakko. (I don't know why he was concerned about a no lynch with a quad voter in the game. post 427 he's rather lynch someone than no one. But he votes Dram for his Yakko vote. I guess it's OK for him to want to make sure there is a lynch but if another person votes for the lynchee without saying something, they are scum.) It does look like Cakez was trying to bus Klazam but it wasn't a very good bus IMO. To me, Cakez switched to Yakko too easily and too early to make it look like he was voting to make sure there was a lynch.

[Skybird]

I'm glad you disagree RC. You were starting to worry me by the way you liked my reads and it seemed like we were thinking the same things.

[Skybird]

In fact I'm getting DEFINITE scum feels from

Crowley

rn.

Who are you referring to RC?

[Skybird]

@Mod, I will be travelling to visit a customer today and most likely won't be able to post until sometime tomorrow.

[Skybird]

Though I can imagine from your experience with me my FoS is an indication that you should immediately TR the slot :S

Nah, I'm over that.

[Skybird]

VOTE: skybird

I'm okay with this

Why?

[Skybird]

Diego, what are you thoughts on the 5 you would consider lynching?

[Skybird]

BNL, what, I'm not allowed to ask questions? Diego put out some people that he didn't want to lynch and stopped. I want him to keep going. I'm town-reading him more today than I did yesterday but I'd like to see more from him.

[Skybird]

I mean it's not difficult to look through the Grand Idea thread and find roles that you can't claim.

Lucky2u is probtown. Find someone else, RC.

Why is Lucky2u probtown to you? I can think of a couple of rolls that you can't claim - scum and serial killer.

[Skybird]

Welcome Droog!

I'm seeing RC as town right now. I don't think we should lynch him.

[Skybird]

Well, I obviously agree with RC.

[Skybird]

Just for the record people, I am a she, not a he.

For the most part, I can see town bitching about crappy pushes and I can see scum bitching about being caught.

Droog, when you say Dave is right are you referring to post 706? Cause I think he's right in that post.

[Skybird]

not fully caught up but i have some gutreads
dont want to hammer davesto just yet

want to hear from the flubber slot but gut town

You do realize that RC is the flubber slot don't you?

[Skybird]

2 days to go people. Re-reading tonight after work.

[Skybird]

Droog, I've been trying to figure out if Diego is town. For balancing, how can you have two town multivoters? Scum must be pretty powerful or one is scum.

I forgot RC replaced in, I was about to vote him for the bad acting job. (acting like he didn't know how the game was set up)

[Skybird]

Not happy seeing RC again so soon. He just death-tunneled me in a game where I was the cop and ALL of his reads were shit. Fortunately scum killed him N1.

> killed him n1
> he death-tunneled

do i nt know what 'death tunneled' means

What happened is he decided I was scum and no matter what I said or how I answered his questions, he just called me scum. I even wasted my first night investigation on the player RC wanted investigated to show him I was town. I was town reading the player in question. I was very annoyed at that but I'm over it now.

[Skybird]

Depressed Townie or something.
I'm vanilla, but if I were to have an action it'd fail.
At least that's what I think it was. I've no active.

Dramonic already claimed RC.

Are you really going to believe his claim? Wouldn't it be pretty easy to go through the idea thread and pick out a harmless town role?

[Skybird]

I just read through Dave's ISO. I don't see anything that jumps out at me and screams town. And to be fair, I didn't see a lot that yelled scum either. But there are several filler posts and he really doesn't push any scum reads. His current scumread is because RC was "too lazy" to search the grand idea thread for Lucky's role. I can support a lynch there.

VOTE: Davesto

[Skybird]

Diego, who do you think is scum/alien/werewhatever?

[Skybird]

So who's scum Dram?

[Skybird]

BNL, I'm trying to start some discussion. You may have noticed this game has stalled terribly. That's to scum's advantage. We need to bring some life back into the game if we are going to win.

So my question for you is how many scum do you think are left? Why are you scum reading Droog?

[Skybird]

We should lynch in the pool of Dramonic, Droog and Skybird today I think.

cakez

really

wants a mislynch

Do you say that just for yourself or do you have town reads on me and Droog?

[Skybird]

Dram, is your Diego must die still because of the quad-voter or do you think he is scum?

Can you put together some posts/thoughts on why BNL is obvscum?

[Skybird]

BNL, what's your read on droog?

[Skybird]

Dram, is your Diego must die still because of the quad-voter or do you think he is scum?

Can you put together some posts/thoughts on why BNL is obvscum?

mostly the former. At this point (actually like 2 days ago) his alignment became irrelevant. He's not an innocent child, he's far, FAR too powerful to stay alive.

I am a bit surprised that scum didn't kill him last night. It makes more sense to kill the quad voter than the triple voter. Right now Diego could lynch someone all by himself. RC wouldn't be able to do that until tomorrow. We also had 3 scum factions night 1. Only 2 NK's made me think we have a protective roll but Davsto's role PM said the aliens can only kill one player per game. I think more than likely the aliens were holding their/his shot for later.

Dram has been very consistent in his vote for Diego. That feels more town than scum. I think scum would jump to another wagon when he saw he couldn't lynch Diego.

In post 350 the mod stated he would most likely place a restriction on scum quad voter. We know the aliens have a restriction. Does anyone consider that enough of a restriction for a quad voter though? That's what I'm trying to figure out right now.

[Skybird]

Anyone around to talk? One part of me thinks Diego is town because he has not slam-dunked another player yet. He has posted today so he has had opportunity. On the other hand, if I was scum Diego I would want to keep people thinking I was town as long as possible.

[Skybird]

we could stop screwing aroung and lynch diego.
That sounds like a fantastic idea.

You have 0 content. Backup your wish to lynch him please.

You have 0 content. Backup your wish to lynch him please.

Really changed your tune here.

I'm reading back through the game and these three posts caught my eye. I feel like there is a slight associative tell between Lucky and Diego.

[Skybird]

Congrats to your Panthers!

Since Cakez is wondering if you still have 4 votes, you could test it out on him.

[Skybird]

Duh, that's why I said it. Don't you think it was a rather silly question to ask?

[Skybird]

Droog, not everyone scum hunts the same way. You look like you are trying really hard to find reasons to call me scum.

Dram, if you don't try he definitely won't be lynched. If you won't vote there, who else is scum?

[Skybird]

Dram, is your Diego must die still because of the quad-voter or do you think he is scum?

Can you put together some posts/thoughts on why BNL is obvscum?

mostly the former. At this point (actually like 2 days ago) his alignment became irrelevant. He's not an innocent child, he's far, FAR too powerful to stay alive.

Dram, why is BNL obvscum?

[Skybird]

I was here this weekend. Where were you?

I have gone back and forth on Diego, especially earlier in the game. I agreed with Dram's statement that Diego looked like he was trying not to ruffle any feathers early on. (post 198) But later when I went back and read those in the game, Diego's responses felt more appropriate.

This is my first grand/great idea mafia game. I was thinking it should be balanced somewhat and that's part of why I was struggling with Diego's alignment. After the discussion around post 780 I learned I should not be considering balance.

I'm leaning town on Diego right now. I would really like input from people on my post 847 though.

[Skybird]

Dram, is your Diego must die still because of the quad-voter or do you think he is scum?

Can you put together some posts/thoughts on why BNL is obvscum?

mostly the former. At this point (actually like 2 days ago) his alignment became irrelevant. He's not an innocent child, he's far, FAR too powerful to stay alive.

Dram, why is BNL obvscum?

Dram is bullet is obvscum?

Dram, inquiring minds want to know! Can you answer this please?

[Skybird]

Sorry to hear that droog. Best wishes and I hope you get better soon.

[Skybird]

Dram, is your Diego must die still because of the quad-voter or do you think he is scum?

Can you put together some posts/thoughts on why BNL is obvscum?

mostly the former. At this point (actually like 2 days ago) his alignment became irrelevant. He's not an innocent child, he's far, FAR too powerful to stay alive.

Dram, why is BNL obvscum?

Dram is bullet is obvscum?

Dram, inquiring minds want to know! Can you answer this please?

Have you read anything he's posted this game?

Dram, is 892 your response to 889?

[Skybird]

Why hold back BNL? Go ahead and tell us.

[Skybird]

Welcome JohnnyFarrar!

Hi Fire Starter! Good to see you again!

[Skybird]

Yeah, Dram's right. I was thinking of Fire Bringer.

[Skybird]

VOTE: Fire Starter

because attitude.

Any reason you want to take us back to RVS? Because that's what your vote feels like. I get that you just replaced in but don't you want to at least try and read the game?

[Skybird]

Sure, I'm town. That's why you shouldn't vote me.

[Skybird]

I'd say you should self vote 'cause your predecessor looked pretty scummy. If you are not scum, you need to town it up.

JohnnyFarrar is an IC. So don't vote there.

I'm puzzling over Diego. Scum took out RC who was a triple voter over Diego who is a quad voter. Was that to make Diego look scum? I was thinking it was townie to not come in and quick hammer, but Diego seems pretty smart and knows that a quick hammer would have repercussions. I have no idea how many scum are left. If he's the last scum or one of the last scum, we are sunk. But I honestly don't see a lot of scummy behavior from him.

Dram is worrying me. I've tried to engage him a few times and I am getting short responses. I haven't had time to do a big meta dive to see if he usually plays this way or what. (Work/RL's been hell for about 6 weeks now ) I do find it interesting that Dram is calling BNL obvscum but hasn't placed a vote on him yet. Might be worth a vote on one of those two to see what happens.

[Skybird]

VOTE: BNL

[Skybird]

You are claiming town now? Didn't you claim survivor on the previous page? Why didn't you like my BNL vote? Did I hit your scum buddy?

[Skybird]

UNVOTE:

I'm listening expedience. Let's rock this game out.

[Skybird]

Dram, do you have any theories of who might be scum with one of the flipped ones?

[Skybird]

I'm reading the game Dram. You have just been unmemorable in your cases.

[Skybird]

I would most likely impose restrictions upon said scum Quad Voter.

Expedience, I want to make sure I'm following your thoughts in post 999. Is this what you are referring to when you said "the way that his restriction was enacted mid-game shows that he's town"? Or are you talking about the fact that Diego told us that his quad vote goes away in lylo? (post 500)

[Skybird]

I don't know if we are lost yet. I'm hoping not!

[Skybird]

I love this setup and demand a pre in to future games BB.

Also thanks for modding :p

I'm actually leaving the site. Need to fix myself irl.

Was nice watching ya'll play, thanks for playing, sorry about my modding.

Sorry to hear this Molla. You'll be missed but you have to take care of yourself. *hugs*

[Skybird]

I'm good with you releasing the scum pt. It's not all that interesting though. lol