Mini 1746: Molla's Grand Idea Mafia

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Hi, I've read some of the thread but not all, so I'm not really sure what's going on.

For now I'll just unvote.

UNVOTE: dramonic

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He's claimed soft claimed tracker or something like that. Claims he knows a shooter.

Okay shit, I just read the previous page and I'm being almost lynched by quadvoter and uh what I hope BNL didn't fakeclaim.

I'm a town rooster, and I can make someone's action resolve first each night.

BBMolla told me that BulletNLynchproof never used his action on anyone, I'm not sure why he did this but okay.

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Also, why aren't we nolynching at 6p MyLo?

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It's hard to engage in a game where one player of questionable alignment controls the lynch.

From the pages 1-17 and [last]-[last-1] I have read, I think dramonic's stance on Diego is doubtcasting trash. There is too much focus on Diego and all he does is just use tenuous setup spec to discredit instead of actual scumhunting.

If I understand correctly, there's a very very low chance that the reverse alignment slot and then the town quadruplevoter slot rolled.

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Maybe lynching rc makes sense?

Dram, you town?

No shit sherlock

EW PLEASE DIE.

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well, diego needs to die desperately.

Still pushing the policy lynch on d3, ffs.

I think Skybird is town. I remember a past game where I scumread her when she was town, so I choose to ignore certain things here. She actually looks more town this game I think.

But tbh we should really lynch the survivor claim unless jester is game ending (does anyone know??). Even so, my lust for survivor blood grows stronger with each post.

I read the whole game and we have killed 4 scum, so we have at maximum 2 remaining.

I want to check the thread in case there's a fake innocent child role or something, because how could JohnnyFarrar not know that he was confirmed town, if he got an innocent child rolecard.

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Skybird you should unvote me because I'm being pushed by both a confirmed scum and an obvious scum.

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Maybe lynching rc makes sense?

Dram, you town?

No shit sherlock

EW PLEASE DIE.

I just want to clarify on this because some people might not understand.

This cannot possibly be a town response to HERRMMMMM's question. When asked "are you town??", dramonic resolves this to "are you claiming town??", because he's scum. Then he replies with "of course i'm claiming town!!". There is no "no shit sherlock" aspect to a town response because town!dramonic knows that HERRMMMMM doesn't know that dramonic is town. There was a similar post of Davsto's which I was going to point out before I realized he died.

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Uggggh.

@BBMolla: Would you allow a scum role that is fake revealed as innocent child d1, for example the one in post #1169?

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VOTE: Fire Starter

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I'm a Vet. I claimed survivor so if there there were two "bad" teams left they'd think I was the other bad guy. Weird I know but that was my train of thought.

So you're claiming the role name "vet"? What does that mean, you heal animals?? Tell me exactly what your role does. Please nobody else answer, I want to hear Fire Starter's response.

If you're actually a jester, which I deem likely considering how you aren't a new player and you aren't this terrible, I see no reason not to lynch you if you just claim jester.

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If we don't get a counter claim we have to believe the vet claim.

A counterclaim is meaningless considering the setup.

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Which one of these scum PGOs are you, then?

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Werewolf one-shot PGO.

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i would not allow scum innocent child. In same vain no mafia Mason's or werewolf lovers.

Okay.

I'm thinking that JohnnyFarrar initially thought he was an innocent child that could choose when to reveal.

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A paranoid knife owner is not a paranoid gun owner. It is neither a veteran, nor a survivor.

I asked you to tell me exactly what your role did for a reason, and you didn't describe a paranoid knife owner.

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Bullet is fire starter who you thought was the vig or sk or whatever you thought?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but at a guess I think Lucky was shot by a vigilante. He came across as really scummy to me when I was reading through. Really, a SK is no different to any other faction since there's probably only one of the same faction at this point.

And yeah, I feel vaguely like Fire Starter's telling the truth here? I would still probably vote him over Skybird though.

UNVOTE: Fire Starter
VOTE: dramonic

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I also thought that Vedith was very town, I didn't realise until now that Fire Starter replaced him. Just really hate survivors.

Actually, when looking at how there were 3 kills and 2 could be accounted for by Lucky and SirCakez, I don't see why both Skybird / Fire Starter can't be town, since there could be 5 scum instead of 6. So I change my answer to: there isn't a vigilante, dramonic is scum and the source of the third kill.

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That's a pretty fucking dumb theory.
I'd have shot Diego on D1.

Self-meta is not at all convincing.

Considering you asked me several time where my scumread on BNL was coming from, I'm pretty certain you should be perfectly aware who I'm scumreading him.
IT SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME!

Your stance on BNL

has

been reasonably consistent, but it's one-dimensional in the same way that your push on Diego is.

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Seriously, I can't see how you could possibly still be entertaining the possibility that Diego is scum. There's a greater than 99.9% chance that a quadruplevoter is town, if I calculated correctly. Even so:

I hate to use arguments like this, but the way that his restriction was enacted mid-game shows that he's town. If he was scum, it would've become immediately obvious to BBMolla that his role was broken from the start. It was introduced mid-game because not adding it pseudo-confirms him as town.

The fact that you continue to push him after this astounds me. I conclude that it's some sort of "why would scum anger the quadruplevoter hes just honestly really dumb!!" thing.

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I think that if he was a scum quadruple voter, he would be given the restriction at the start, not mid-game. In 500, Diego specifies that his role was changed mid-game from what it was initially.

It's so unlikely that a scum quadruple voter rolled anyway, so this doesn't really matter much.

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If Diego lynches dramonic today, and the game continues, I'll visit Fire Starter tonight. If I die, Skybird is the last scum, if I don't die then Fire Starter is the last scum.

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That was probably the wrong choice.

I hope Skybird is town here and there's only one scum left alive, otherwise we've lost I think. This isn't going to be a nice situation for us going into tomorrow either way.

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Dramonic, clearly.

If there was a second scum still alive, it would have to be Skybird. I don't think this is very likely, though.

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Huh, okay...

Nice shot, Fire Starter!