Oh, you should at least know my name.
VOTE: Apricity
- Max
In post 42, Apricity wrote:In post 25, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:I guess we could do it at L-2?
I mean, this isn't a huge game, and we can be civil.
Or we can just do it whenever and come closer to a consensus near lynchtime.
In post 91, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Nah, Flubber setup specc'ing reminds me of town-Flubber.
What was the game that you made that chart in, Flubber?
At least, I'm pretty sure you were town in that one.
In post 100, lane0168 wrote:Guys! Pick a lynch! Optimum play is for town to quick lynch and get lucky or sacrifice town! But we have to do it quickly before scum catch on! Now who's it going to be?!
In post 104, SirCakez wrote:What would have been a good answer to that? "Lol no your advice sucks"?
In post 108, SirCakez wrote:This is going to be one of those games isn't it?
In post 109, lane0168 wrote:In post 106, Shiro wrote:Hi all, seems like I am a bit late to this evolutionary party.
I am seeing some notes for extinction about Mr.Cakez, can someone brief me?
I'll tell you my side!
Cakez: terrible reason for a vote!
Pers: umm day 1 bro whatchu want?
Cakez: ok vote (reasonable to me would be "Yeah, I guess, but still" or "Yeah I guess, I'm not seeing it" not "Yeah ok good case!")
Me: wtf?
Pers: umm what?
Cakez: what the heck, you want me to disagree with you or not?!
Spector: Yeah, no
Me: Yeah, no
In post 110, lane0168 wrote:One of those games where we find scum on day 1 and get the easy lynch cause scum buddies want mutations too? Yup
In post 117, SirCakez wrote:Heh I like you Max.
In post 91, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Nah, Flubber setup specc'ing reminds me of town-Flubber.
In post 171, Errantparabola wrote:In post 136, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Persevul may be my choice for a lynch today. So far, I feel like he is over-explaining.
how is he over explaining? he's made maybe like 3 content posts and all of those were succinct votes and reasons for those votes.
In post 137, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Why do you like Pers's play right now? I don't have Varsoon's experience, but I don't get it.
he's been pushing his own wagons with decent legitimacy to them and i've seen nothing scum from him, so, yeah, he's town until something points otherwise.
In post 172, Hellhound wrote:asking for reasons on an early wagon is already sending up red flags for me, mostly b/c i think in the early game, scum are a lot more likely to feel around and ask for town positions and opinions to be fed to them (as opposed to letting them naturally form on their own)
In post 172, Hellhound wrote:this pinged me something fierce. here i'm feeling like shiro is a lot more concerned w/ ingratiating himself to lane and formulating/peddling this narrative that looks good (but is flimsy and doesn't really stand up to much thought) than actually getting the foundation to intuitive and solid reads going
In post 146, Flubbernugget wrote:I also have Hellhound for scum right now, but I could easily see that changing within the next 24-48 hours
In post 174, Flubbernugget wrote:low-key noting I didn't have to vote to get the game out of rvs B-)
In post 197, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 150, SirCakez wrote:then he pointed out it was still sarly game and there wouldn't be much good evidence, which I then agreed with and voted Flubber.
Are you telling me Cakez shouldn't have recognized this on his own?
That's a tough pill to swallow
In post 203, Hellhound wrote:In post 198, Flubbernugget wrote:If he wasn't convinced in what persuvial was saying about me, why did he vote me?
>because he wanted to pressure you
>because he just wanted to shamelessly bandwagon
>because his finger slipped
pick one
you want to know why i called it a red herring?
b/c i think most ppl on the wagon are so caught up in OMG LOOKZ ITS A CONTRADICTION I LEARNED THIS IN ACE ATTORNEY and no one's actually trying to connect the dots from "sircakez said this thing" to "sircakez is thinking like scum and therefore probably is scum"
In post 209, Hellhound wrote:i got baited into this conversation and now max is wanting to turn it around on me like i'm whiteknighting or whatever
seriously, fuck this noise
In post 177, Flubbernugget wrote:Check the timestamps between that "post progression." There is no time for people to respond to the progression for me to be called out on anything. I read the thread, respond to anything I see that I feel needs a response, and vote when I've finished reading.
In post 224, Hellhound wrote:In post 222, Specter Deflectors wrote:PEdit: Bruh I didn't say 'scummy defense' I said 'treatment of the Cakez wagon'
oh my god
if we're really doing this, just fucking kill me now
In post 317, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:Although, hm, a lot of people have just outright abandoned the Hellhound wagon for other ventures.
I'm not seeing what makes SirCakes, Flubber, or Persivul so scum.
In post 319, Persivul wrote:In post 318, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:The speed at which the wagon picked up on Hellhound and then dropped, followed by Hellhound still seeming tense to the point of wanting Firebringer to run damage control just strikes me as particularly weird.
What strikes me as weird is the way you push HH, but throw in some seeming coaching posts like 302 and 306.
In post 327, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:I could see the town logic behind it if you agree that town wants to be survivalistic, but I've always adhered to the philosophy that town should just wear their guts on the outside for everyone to see.
In post 256, Hellhound wrote:Specter, can I just say. I really like your guys avatar.
In post 383, Iecerint wrote:In post 371, Specter Deflectors wrote:That's not how anti-mutagens work. The vote prevents people from receiving a mutation the next cycle, if someone is voted for the anti-mutagen they'll still get to mutate for being on the wagon, they just won't be able to the following day.
- Max
In post 372, Specter Deflectors wrote:Also, how do people using AM votes for their scumreads make it difficult to track reads? Lynch vote is most scum, AM vote is second-most scum. And then you consolidate and compromise as normal.
- Max
As I understand it, you only mutate if you are on the lynchwagon (regardless of the alignment that flips). This means that AM votes are useless if they aren't on lynchvoters. Just say you find someone suspicious and won't vote them if you want to...think someone is scum...and not vote for them....
You're correct that AM'd players can still use abilities the following night.
In post 456, hiplop wrote:In post 434, Specter Deflectors wrote:this is a fluid read but I think it's better than the shiro read but i am expecting shiro to actually get in the thread and do shit.
VOTE: hiplop
ep. do you agree with my plan y/n
In post 492, hiplop wrote:
this is a bad push. I mean give people a chance to actually catch up. Never know what ppl are going through. If this continues much longer, yea, eat rope. But for now these two horrible pushes are not looking great for you
In post 499, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: Hiplop
His posts on the last two pages are pretty bad. Asking already answered questions, shooting down vote analysis, fluffing, etc
In post 523, Heat wrote:ok i am catching up!! just finished page 4
dont like pers. has a srs vote on flubber and then goes back to RVS it looks like in 98 with a vote on hellhound
gagging
In post 525, Heat wrote:SC wagon seems like an overreaction tbh
I didn't think the vote was that bad. His "this is gonna be one of those games" comment tho is kinda nullscum to me cause it just reminds me of throwing hands up instead of explaining or talking to ppl
I'll keep an eye on him
In post 546, Heat wrote:at page 10
hellhound is town rn. frustration seems rly genuine/not forced. i like it. their shiro case also makes sense
In post 593, Specter Deflectors wrote:I thought this was a good observation but thinking about it further, ultimately it doesn't make sense that you would push this as scummy. Sure, there's scum motivation in prolonging RVS but that doesn't mean that scum actively tries to do so. In fact, I would say that scum would have equal if not more motivation to do early game pushes to establish themselves as town.
In post 597, Edgar Allan Pro wrote:@Lane and Hiplop
Why are you guys getting so bent out of shape that he is scum reading you two? You can defend yourselves when he or I actually try to push your wagons and lay out our arguments. Telling you what makes your play scummy right now would just let you correct your game and make building a case against you harder later.
In post 595, hiplop wrote:ep explain your scumread right now on me or ill burn your house down
In post 599, hiplop wrote:I know full well why you're thinking I'm scum. So I'm going to keep doing it.
In post 621, Persivul wrote:And look back at his 146. I still really hate that post. I don't know why other people aren't bothered by it.
In post 698, Errantparabola wrote:In post 671, zakk wrote:pls tell me why, for all of these. one sentence each
and darn right you better drag your feet on lynching me
Hellhound is town because of the offensive on Shiro, the EAP interactions seem legitimate, and overall reactions to new developments in the game mean that their reads are fluid in a way that makes me think town.
Iece is likely town because I agree with EAP about how the miller claim is legit.
EAP because of interactions with Cakez and Hellhound.
Apricity because of meta, but this is probably more like unsure right now.
Cakez is likely town because I think I do agree with EAP about how town players are more likely to be transparent instead of survivalist and that's what I'm getting from Cakez right now, along with a good number of the things that people have been pushing him for being invalid.
I'd lynch Heat because there's nothing stopping me from wanting to lynch heat right now.
I'd drag my feet on lynching you mainly because of tone, it's super weak which is why I'm unsure.
Flubber's early game was weak and after that he hasn't been particularly great.
Persivul's the opposite- early game was fine but after that has been meh.
The original reason for Shiro case wasn't flawless, but the reaction to that case has been terrible.
The hiplop read is part meta and part reactive play. I've been pushing this read because I either want to solidify or get rid of it.
I've explained why I think lane's reads are fake in 600.
In post 606, hiplop wrote:Lane feels weak? Like yea, maybe? Shiro same.
In post 691, hiplop wrote:yea, shiro's wagon is absolute trash.