Mini 1798: Greatest Idea (Game Over)
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VOTE: Fate
While discarding compulsive child killer looks really town, he could have used that card for his alignment if he wanted to be town.
His choice to discard it makes me feel like he wanted the town cred for not wanting to be forced to kill an innocent child.
tl;dr> It's an excellent scum discard.-
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What is this and why are you doing it?
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You're reachy as fuck.In post 55, DoctorPepper wrote:
Wait what? Using the card as an alignment assumes that Fate would have to have other scum cards and has to use Compulsive Child Killer. In a set up like this, it's likely that he could have gotten 2 Townie cards, used one for the alignment and the non townie for the ability. This kind of speculation is unfounded and kind of a weird way to vaguely call someone scum.In post 9, House wrote:VOTE: Fate
While discarding compulsive child killer looks really town, he could have used that card for his alignment if he wanted to be town.
His choice to discard it makes me feel like he wanted the town cred for not wanting to be forced to kill an innocent child.
tl;dr> It's an excellent scum discard.
VOTE: House
1) My vote is the second post in the thread, in rvs.
2) Compulsive Child Killer is a great discard for scum. period.
3) Reachy shit like this is far scummier than any discard. Pull your head out of your ass and develop reads based on motive instead of throwing unfounded accusations in the hopes that people will buy it.-
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You expected an actual, legitimate reason for a vote in the second post of the game. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.In post 58, DoctorPepper wrote:
You claim its RVS yet somehow youre also saying its a legitimate reason to vote. Your motive is weird and thats what I'm saying, your read on me is based on an "unfounded accusation" which is ironic considering your unfounded accusation.In post 56, House wrote:
You're reachy as fuck.In post 55, DoctorPepper wrote:
Wait what? Using the card as an alignment assumes that Fate would have to have other scum cards and has to use Compulsive Child Killer. In a set up like this, it's likely that he could have gotten 2 Townie cards, used one for the alignment and the non townie for the ability. This kind of speculation is unfounded and kind of a weird way to vaguely call someone scum.In post 9, House wrote:VOTE: Fate
While discarding compulsive child killer looks really town, he could have used that card for his alignment if he wanted to be town.
His choice to discard it makes me feel like he wanted the town cred for not wanting to be forced to kill an innocent child.
tl;dr> It's an excellent scum discard.
VOTE: House
1) My vote is the second post in the thread, in rvs.
2) Compulsive Child Killer is a great discard for scum. period.
3) Reachy shit like this is far scummier than any discard. Pull your head out of your ass and develop reads based on motive instead of throwing unfounded accusations in the hopes that people will buy it.
Sure Compulsive Child Killer is a great discard, assuming you have better cards to work off.
Even then, if you look at it this way, wouldn't Conpulsive Child Killer be good for scum as a role? Take the scum alignment and take the role to kill the IC for less town? I don't even see how it would be a great discard for scum, unless they had better scum to choose from.
Youee non committal, you claim I'm being scummy but I don't see a switch on me, despite saying your vote was the second vote in RVS.-
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It's the best reason I can think of for a vote when there's literally zero content, but do you really think I expect a lynch from a DISCARD?In post 62, DoctorPepper wrote:Youre claiming its RVS and nonsense while simultaneously claiming that it's a legitimately good move that scum could do. :>
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Shitty case built on an rvs vote, which you're staying glued to regardless of the fact I explained how redonkulous you're being, and now a slimy misrep.In post 64, DoctorPepper wrote:You're claiming its a scummy move and we should be wary of it, yet you're also saying "Wait gaiz, I wasn't serious, it's only game why you heff to be mad"
You're the one who's reaching here, buddy
Here, you can accuse me of OMGUS too.
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Stop shitting up the game with irrelevant setup spec that has absolutely nothing to do with the game that we DID roll with.In post 70, Ranger wrote:Yo, House.
I don't care where someone is on my list, I WILL strongarm a lynch on any player that refuses to do this.Ranger wrote:Everyone, and I mean everyone, if they didn't do so already, MUST list what their cards were the first draw. In the case of the replacement, ask for your predecessor's cards.
They must also list what they chose, and the resulting discard.
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This...
[quote="In post 64, you're also saying "Wait gaiz, I wasn't serious, it's only game why you heff to be mad" [/quote]
Is slimy misrep.
Your entire case is built on post number 2, which is voting based on a DISCARD.
Idc how many paragraphs you wall us with, it's not scum hunting, it's pinning an accusation and attempting to sell.-
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EbwopIn post 75, House wrote:This...
Is slimy misrep., you're also saying "Wait gaiz, I wasn't serious, it's only game why you heff to be mad"
Your entire case is built on post number 2, which is voting based on a DISCARD.
Idc how many paragraphs you wall us with, it's not scum hunting, it's pinning an accusation and attempting to sell.-
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Nope.
I'd rather you show town just how much you want to shit up d1 with irrelevant garbage.-
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Just because you have some theory about cards that have absolutely nothing to do with the game we are actually playing doesn't mean I'm going to promote the waste of this time catering to your personal non-game game.
I don't give a rat's ass if I'm wagoned, because if town is willing to lynch me for not participating in this kind of idiocy, I'm just as well rid of the time commitment.-
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Also, persisting in this direction will only result in a mislynch and you still won't get your precious info, which will make d1a total wash.
Is that a town or scum thing to do?-
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Link this game, please.In post 77, Ranger wrote:
No.House wrote:Stop shitting up the game with irrelevant setup spec that has absolutely nothing to do with the game that we DID roll with.
I have won.
Actually, directly, WON.
This game before.
By forcing every player to answer this when we had a failed reroll.
While you're at it, explain how you know scum simply won't lie to obfuscate whatever deductions you're drawing.-
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Still not linking the game, eh?
Why did you ignore that simple request?-
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I'm asking you to link to the game you won by gathering this information you're asking for now.In post 88, Ranger wrote:
Simple: because you're asking me something that will be answered anyway.House wrote:Why did you ignore that simple request?
So far, what I've gathered is:
Ranger: Town Roleblocker
Fate: Town Cop Lover
Doctor Pepper: Town 2x BP
Ideally we get all 10 extra, but I can make this work with less. More's better.
It's a perfectly reasonable request.
Why won't you provide the link?-
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Okay Ranger,
Since you're going to stomp your feet, pitch a tantrum and vote me until I give you what you want, I can do that too.
VOTE: Ranger
Link the game you won using this method.-
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Alignment: Roleblocker
Ability: One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
Discard: Hirsute Townie
I was a Town One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
Never been PGO, sounded fun.
And I also think Yume's reveal is full of shit.
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I don't exist to cater to others.In post 111, Fate wrote: House is being a stubborn ass but at least I get the sense that he is competent-
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What exactly is this about?
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It's not really meta as it is philosophy.In post 133, Radical Rat wrote:
I personally dislike using meta for reads, since it seems to me as soon as you're aware of your meta( such as when someone points it out for a defense/case ), it can be manipulated.In post 129, Alchemist21 wrote:I agree that House's inconsistency makes him look scummy, but I'm also remembering what Titus used to always say about House being the opposite alignment of how he looked.
I generally dislike town roles, so I'm going to do what I need to do with no regard for playing the crowd.
Idiots see me being a nonconformist and consider it scummy, because obviously scum paint a huge fucking target on their own heads, especially experienced scum.
Enjoy the delicious sarcasm.
Yes, I felt the need to point it out, because people that think abrasive play is scummy obviously aren't all that bright.-
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Playing = pleasing
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I don't either, now that I've seen something productive come of it.In post 128, Alchemist21 wrote:I don't see the harm in what Ranger's doing.
I'm just not going to do something simply because some self-righteous player demands it and threatens me.
It's easy to chime in after the fact.-
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You'd have been werewolf regardless of what cards you put where, which I find rather odd.In post 176, Katsuki wrote:I'm quite annoyed setup got re-rolled.
I drew Werewolf, Werewolf Cop and Werewolf Watcher.
Forget which alignment I chose, but I chose Watcher for power.-
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Is it possible that could be the case? Hell, I didn't even know compulsive child killer was a thing before this game.In post 181, iraonavp wrote:I wasn't there the first time the setup was rolled so I don't know what cards the person I replaced received. I think Fate is lying about being a miller because that would mean his third card was a town role worse than both miller and compulsive child killer.
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So you considered Fate might be telling the truth after I raised the possibility, and scumread me for it?In post 186, iraonavp wrote:I voted House instead of you because I realized that if you were telling the truth, you would have to be either a Night-kill immune miller vigilante or a Bulletproof miller serial killer, and because I think that House is scum-aligned.
Could you stop typing like that? I have dyslexia and it's difficult for me to read.
Yeah, that totally makes sense.
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Did you vote me because you thought I read that thread?In post 187, iraonavp wrote:Oh, wait... I thought the setup was made from the Mafia Discussion thread but it's actually not.
So you could have one of the other worse negative utilities, but I doubt that to be honest.
Unless I posted in it (I haven't), that's a pretty stupid assumption to base a vote.-
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That's bullshit.In post 195, SirCakez wrote:You guys suck
I'm a Mason Lover
Being confirmed town in Song of Ice and Fire was probably the most fun I've ever had as town, so I would pick confirmable town over much anything else
And you can't be a Mafia Mason obviously
I almost choose to be a werewolf mason for shiggles.-
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Why would werewolf mason be allowed, then?In post 220, Radical Rat wrote:
Mason, by definition, is Town. And on the Greatest Idea wiki page, Mafia Mason is explicitly not allowed.In post 219, House wrote:
That's bullshit.In post 195, SirCakez wrote:You guys suck
I'm a Mason Lover
Being confirmed town in Song of Ice and Fire was probably the most fun I've ever had as town, so I would pick confirmable town over much anything else
And you can't be a Mafia Mason obviously
I almost choose to be a werewolf mason for shiggles.
Damn, I should have totally gone with my first choice...
Speaking of which, how do know HE isn't a werewolf mason?-
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Incorrect!In post 222, Radical Rat wrote:Werewolf Mason literally cannot exist though.
To be a Mason is to be Town.
Alternatively, moderators may introduce Werewolves into Masonries (and likewise Mafia members into Monasteries) without bastardry, as the definition of a Mason or Monk is that they are not confirmed to be a member of a specific non-Town faction.-
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And I'm telling you, the mood allowed me to choose a werewolf mason setup.
I changed it in the last hour because I decided I wanted another role more.-
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Mains are confirmed not to be mafia.
Mains are NOT confirmed not to be werewolves.-
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Apparently, IC is the only mod-confirmed town in games that have werewolves.-
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Did you miss where I opted out of it in the last hour of the setup?In post 229, Radical Rat wrote:Oh!
Now that certainly is interesting...
Still, I'm inclined to believe Cakez is Town, because as scum, claiming to be the only Mason makes little sense. Rather, I'd expect the entire scumteam to fake being the masonry.-
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Either way, I don't think we should lynch a lover today. That's doing scums job for them if they ARE all town.-
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If they aren't all town, they'll be left alone at night.In post 233, Yume wrote:And what if they aren't all town?
How long do you think a 3 for 1 nk going untouched will be acceptable to town?-
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Unless he's a lone wolf.In post 234, Radical Rat wrote:
No, but his scumbuddies would know he was a Mason, and as soon as he reports being the the only one, they could have their own fake masonry set up and used as a defense.In post 231, House wrote:
Did you miss where I opted out of it in the last hour of the setup?In post 229, Radical Rat wrote:Oh!
Now that certainly is interesting...
Still, I'm inclined to believe Cakez is Town, because as scum, claiming to be the only Mason makes little sense. Rather, I'd expect the entire scumteam to fake being the masonry.-
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Post 232 would like a word with you.In post 237, Radical Rat wrote:Fair enough I suppose.
I'd still prefer to stay off the Lovers for now though.-
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My goal was not to sell the 3 for 1 lynch, it was too dispel the "Masons are always town" myth.-
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How poetic would it be if the lovers were comprised of town/mafia/werewolf?-
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Yeah, that totally sounds like a pro-town mindset!In post 242, Yume wrote:
Well, based on what SC said, he'll let scum live and win if it means he isn't getting lynched.In post 235, House wrote:
If they aren't all town, they'll be left alone at night.In post 233, Yume wrote:And what if they aren't all town?
How long do you think a 3 for 1 nk going untouched will be acceptable to town?-
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This is a scumclaim.In post 91, Yume wrote:My choices were as such
Vengeful Townie
Werewolf One-Shot Paranoid Gun Owner
Seer
Well, I am a Vengeful Seer.
Vengeful is a role.
Seer is a role.
Only one card is used to determine role.
Yume is claiming the mod gave her the role of two seperate cards.
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Sure isn't.In post 246, Yume wrote:Yeah, me having two roles is a scumclaim yet SC being both Mason and Lover isn't? Like, WTF?-
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The Lover role is often used in conjunction with other powerful roles to kill them off faster.In post 246, Yume wrote:Yeah, me having two roles is a scumclaim yet SC being both Mason and Lover isn't? Like, WTF?
I have no doubt Mason and Lover were on the same card, so his claim is 100% more believable than yours.-
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No need.In post 249, Yume wrote:Yeah, that's bs. If you are gonna croak about two roles being unbelievable, then attack him as well.
He's a lover, so he'll die when one of his lovers do anyway.
If you were really a seer, you'd have pointed out how we needed to keep you around to clear him.
Too late though, you missed your chance.-
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Why would a seer be so gung ho about wanting a mason lynched in a game where werewolves are a thing, especially when that mason is a lover?
If I was a seer, I'd simply check him n1 without raising a stink about his claim d1.
What does a seer accomplish by getting their #1 target lynched instead of possibly clearing the slot?
And all this is besides the fact that vengeful seer is literally an impossible claim.-
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Mason lover is absolutely possible, because both roles can be on the same card.
Just like cop lover is also possible for the same reason.
Read the goddamned wiki, noob.
And you need to reread my answer to your question about how long the three lovers should be allowed to live.
They have a short life expectancy by virtue of the fact they're lovers alone.
Again, read the goddamned wiki.-
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That's SC, and he's a slot for another day.In post 255, Yume wrote:Yeah no. SC was yapping about he 'doesn't want to be lynched' even if it means letting the scum coast.
Today, YOU swing.-
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Someone who doesn't tell a confirmable lie about their claim.In post 257, Yume wrote:Who is townier to you, someone who is willing to die if it means getting rid of scum or someone who doesn't want to die despite this?-
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I don't care if you shoot ME upon your lynch.In post 259, Yume wrote:So you don't mind me shooting SC upon my lynch?
P-edit: Oh, so you're an all-knowing entity who knows everything? What if SC is the liar and I am not?-
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I don't believe your claim because if it's true the game is bastard.
Read the damned wiki.-
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Hell, read the op, for that matter.
Face it, you're caught.-
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In post 2, Micc wrote:SETUP-SPECIFIC RULES- This is a Greatest Idea Mafia game, which has 13 total players.
- Once the go-ahead is given, the cards numbered 1-146 (as listed on the 28th of March, 2016 revision of the Greater Idea Mafia page) are shuffled, and three are given to each player. Each card represents an alignment and role.
- You will receive a PM informing you of the three cards you have been dealt.
- Once the PM's go out, you will have 48 hours to decide one card to represent your alignment, and a second, different card to represent your role. The third card, if the game's setup is valid, will be publicly discarded.
- The game will be considered valid if a majority of alignments selected are town, and at least one alignment selected is permanently anti-town. If an invalid setup is created, we will try again, starting with a new shuffle and deal.
- The below is a sample Vanilla Townie PM.
Spoiler: The Win Conditions are...
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Tell me... where is Vengeful Seer in the list of roles???-
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Do continue giving your buddies advice.In post 263, Yume wrote:Well, fine. I'll bang-bang you. Bang-bang. Lol.
However, you're so notoriously stubborn that someone should shoot you at first possible opportunity.-
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Wrong, I want you to swing today because you claimed a role that literally cannot exist in the game.In post 267, Yume wrote:That's not the problem. The problem is that you and him are insistent on allowing a possible mafia lover to live because you don't want to risk it at all!!!!!! Are you two idiots dammit? You calling me a noob yet you essentially are willing to allow possible mafia lover to live because you don't want to risk it. We'll see who is noob when mafia lover coasts to victory because of it.
Anything to do with the mason can be cleared with investigative roles. For you, we don't even NEED to investigate.-
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In post 266, House wrote:Tell me... where is Vengeful Seer in the list of roles???