Mini 1808 - Yuri: the Purest Form of Love (End)

Nahdia · Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:28 am

VOTE: beeboy

Very strong chance I'll undo this later.

Nahdia · Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:29 am

You're not hammered fucko.

Nahdia · Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:54 am

Majority, not plurality.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:03 am

aihara is probably town here.

i dont see her doing her "fakeclaim lovers with math" move as scum. i dont see her declaring her partners' slot needs to be metalynched as scum. and even if idk that she woulda been capable, i believe she would have tried to convince me to vote elsewhere d1. \

whereas inspector doesn't vote despite saying they think the MM/Mathblade pairing has a scum.

still all ears.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:11 am

cakez whatnow

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:13 am

he voted u for 10 hours when u had no wagon.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:15 am

looking at his vote history he keeps voting u then shortly after flipping off to basically anyone else.

i dont see what about this cant be a buss.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:17 am

he voted for the sakura/random lynch too.

im not really sure what ur getting at. seems like u might have somrthing in ur head that makes sense to u and u buy it but i dont follow at all.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:20 am

he didn't put much effort into lynching u tho. and he was pegged as scum super early so, distancing?

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:21 am

im not really sure if that makes sense based on the timing but meh.

i don't see why it definitely definitely baby wasn't a buss. just from the way he was skittish about voting you it looks like it.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:22 am

lmao god this really is zelda all over again ISNT IT.

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:23 am

you lost me again? call what off?

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:54 am

not necessarily?

Nahdia · Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:44 pm

WE ZELDA MAF NOW

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:35 am

you say you doubt your partner but i havent seen the progression of your read on them at all tbh. you voted them for a bit and are now sure he's town in lylo.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:35 am

so like, talk to me about your beeboy read.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:27 am

"tests" -_-'

Aihara I'm reading town tonally rn, I don't think any of what they've said has been awful? the only thing that bothers them about Aihara is that they've townread me all game which is possibly scum motivated, but neither of you seem willing to consider your partner either so that's kind of evened out. idk that i believe you're willing to selfhammer.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:34 am

i mean sure, but townreading your lover makes a lot more sense than scumreading them as a general strategy as scum here.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:50 am

hey inspector. selfhammer.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:17 pm

So you're not willing to selfhammer.

I don't notice any significant difference in Aihara's posting from d1 to now. You'll have to spell it out for me.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:53 pm

someone coming out of their shell in lylo is hardly irregular.

you're kinda just throwing shade at the wall and seeing what sticks. 1 page ago you were willing to selfhammer.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:10 pm

Replacing into a psuedo confscum slot sounds like the literal perfect time to buss both your partners, dude.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:14 pm

and yet didn't?

"I'm willing to selfhammer if you ask" -> "I want to hear from beeboy first" -> "beeboy is scummy" -> "im still willing to selfhammer" -> "oh wisdom was right you're scum"

beeboy.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:16 pm

how about you townread me and then trust me that aihara is town?

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:17 pm

do you want me to towncase myself? i LOVE towncasing myself. and by "love" i mean "go fuck yourself" and by that i mean i guess i'd do it.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 1946, inspectorscout wrote:
In post 1941, Nahdia wrote:Replacing into a psuedo confscum slot sounds like the literal perfect time to buss both your partners, dude.
Why is that? What is the theory behind this? Because that sounds like bullshit. Why would you even?

Distancing

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:20 pm

I really shouldn't have lynched firebringer.

we all make mistakes, brother beeboy.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:20 pm

me especially. but all you can do is blindly trust your instincts and never ever rely on the wisdom of everyone else ever.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:21 pm

In post 1951, inspectorscout wrote:
In post 1943, Nahdia wrote:and yet didn't?

"I'm willing to selfhammer if you ask" -> "I want to hear from beeboy first" -> "beeboy is scummy" -> "im still willing to selfhammer" -> "oh wisdom was right you're scum"

beeboy.
And yet you think i would even dare to do this as scum? No.
Basically you left out ' all of you are scummy' which makes everything understandable

if your argument is scum wouldn't even threaten to vote their own slot today then you might wanna rethink your current read.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:23 pm

In post 1953, beeboy wrote:You keep saying this is Zelda mafia which means if I sheep you here I lose :/

ok well the difference between this and zelda mafia is in zelda mafia i had a scumread I was confident in and here i have a townread which im confident in and confident townreads are way more likely to be right in my experience.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:23 pm

but i mean, i might be wrong again. I'm READY.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:24 pm

you guys just had to start posting when i was about to go to bed.

god. so inconsiderate.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:29 pm

inspectorscout do you confirm that your previous point was that scum wouldn't dare to threaten to selfvote on this day?

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:31 pm

advance or abscond. advance or abscond. advance or abscond.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:35 pm

oh ok. so your argument is that you wouldn't do something scummy as scum.

sage.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:43 pm

mudslinging everyone as they're placed in front of you isn't a towntell in lylo just because "scum wouldn't act scummy". unless you have meta to show your scumgame is

extremely

polished that's just a ridic hand wave. being willing to selfhammer is potentially a towntell but you clearly aren't actually open to the idea so its just as likely it was a bluff you were hoping to not get called on.

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:46 pm

In a place you only dream of
Where your soul is always free
Silver stages, golden curtains
Filled my head, plain as can be
As a rainbow grew around the sun
All the stars above who died came from
Somewhere beyond the scene you see
These lovely people played just for meeeee

Nahdia · Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:47 pm

Now if I let you see this place
Where stories all ring trueee
Will you let me past your face
To see what's really yooouu
It's not for me I ask this question
As though I were a king
For you have to love, belieeeve, and feel
Before the burst of tambourines take you theeerrreeee

GREEN GRASS AND HIGH TIDES FOREEVERRR
CASTLES OF STONE, SOULS, AND GLOORRYYYY
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Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:48 am

more like "more sure of aihara being town than either of beeboy/inspector"
random was also suspected by wisdom and wowie look. wisdom wasn't nightkilled so it's not like his reads hold extra weight.
i dont know what you mean "refused interactions"
i asked you to selfvote because you offered and wanted to see what'd you say.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:21 am

a large part of my read on Aihara is based on what's in our PT so you can step right off on that having no basis. i've already explained where that read comes from. not to mention

I

voted on the scum wagon d1 while you just sat and hedged. and when Cakez jumped into a slot under heavy scrutiny and got even more scumreads he decided to push your slot which wasn't under any pressure.

i'm going to be pretty pissed if this game stalls out and no one budges this late when i finally have a grip. i want a fucking town win where i actually am what causes the town to win.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:30 am

you just said yesterday he replaced into a "psuedo conf scum" slot ._.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:46 am

In post 1981, beeboy wrote:Can one of Aihara and Nahdia see Cakez was hard pushing me/scout out of the gates and self hammer. Cause he really wasn't under pressure until he started to scum post.

alright him being under pressure initially is moot i spose. i can look through Cakez' scumgames to see if he busses but seriously, distancing is a thing. especially in a nightless setup i see 0 reason whatsoever to think he wouldn't hardbuss right out of the gate. his lover was considered conftown, if he could lynch push scum and ride on that he might have been planning to coast to a win.

In post 1982, inspectorscout wrote:I replied to the selfvote thing. What is your opinion on what i said?

Was i even here D1?

Can you give examples of why you townread aihara in the pt?

You saying "I'm willing to selfvote" and then saying you don't want to looks like a bluff to me.

Yes, you were.

I already did, but to reiterate; pushing the Ircher/Yume (Wisdom/SirCakez) slot early, really towny tonally, frustration with mathblade. also how they reacted when i discussed their townread on math early on.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:10 am

In post 1989, beeboy wrote:I don't like how Nahdia hasn't considered you being scum :/

Pedit: true but I have no reason to believe either of you are town.

literally came into this day voting them.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:10 am

In post 1989, beeboy wrote:I don't like how Nahdia hasn't considered you being scum :/

Pedit: true but I have no reason to believe either of you are town.

In post 1832, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: Aihara Mei

In post 1858, Nahdia wrote:Whatever.

VOTE: Nahdia

If you're wrong on this I'll hate you forever, little brother.

I mean, unless you're scum. Then I'll only hate you for a bit.

multiple times even

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:11 am

so don't YOU tell ME i haven't considered shit, fucko.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:12 am

In post 1849, beeboy wrote:But bussing in this setup means nothing cuz you need to convince everyone you are in a town town pair to win not skirt by like you can do in an average game.

lookie what else i found at the beginning of this day.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:21 am

In post 1994, beeboy wrote:Eh I consider busing viable in many setups.

Go find me a game where Cakez bussed please.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66305
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65649

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:28 am

Look at his reads as he caught up.

The other game I linked he hardbussed.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:33 am

OK friendo. You asked me to prove Cakez has bussed, I showed you a couple games where he did.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:42 am

i linked two games

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:44 am

like, if u wanna say the Soccer Spirits one doesn't count fine. u said you've never seen SirCakez buss and Black Flag is definitely a buss so yes, he busses.

and you said yourself bussing means nothing here so i'm not sure why this is suddenly such a huge issue for you.

Nahdia · Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:44 am

dont get me wrong i concede you have something of a point here but it doesn't outweight my current position for me.

Nahdia · Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:41 am

whoops

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:10 am

i think it's kinda silly to prod when there's nothing happening in the game, personally.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:12 am

you seem to be under the delusion that you have a decision to make.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:19 am

for Aihara

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:49 am

In post 1704, Wisdom wrote:Let's watch Nahdia win the game

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:53 am

idk that i deserved this one, not a great game for me. I think I do a lot better in more complex setups as scum.. the simplicity had me grasping for options. I'd like to think my final day play was pretty good (voting Aihara for awhile was a huge risk but I felt like I pretty much had to take it or I was totally boned).

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:00 am

thanks for modding btw pie. it was a lot of fun and you did well rolling with the punches as they came imo. im not really sure there is a good solution to the whole plurality thing; in this situation the game got kinda cheesed because of it but gaming the voting mechanics is gonna happen in any game.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:00 am

oh and yeah im totally fine with releasing the PT.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:15 am

In post 2037, SirCakez wrote:how did we win that lmao

you did ask me to carry you.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:37 am

also fire I'm kind of put off by the "Nahdia scum coasted liek she has done recnelty in games." I've never coasted as scum before, this is literally my first time. My other scumgames are Newbie 1686, Open 629, and Bloodborne Mafia. i was a huge player in all three of those. so like, what the hell dude?

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:38 am

i don't think im that good a player and here i definitely did poorly here but i do have some amount of pride in my scumgame so i'm legit kinda insulted you would say that. no fucking clue what gave you that impression.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:48 am

In post 2044, thenewearth wrote:I fucking knew nahdia would coast the fuck out of this and win

did it for you~

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:17 pm

fine, we don't gotta argue, but i didn't coast at all in bloodborne. i was constantly the largest presence in the game along with Reasonably Irrational. this was just a bad game for me. but i did participate for the record, especially early and late in the game. the middle i was just kind of lost and playing really really bad because im averse to bussing and just super awkward around it. you can see that in Bloodborne as well; the one time my partner was getting lynched i was flailing and i spent the entire next day recovering from that.

Nahdia · Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:18 pm

and saying "my scumgame is better than this" i agree cheapens myself to say it as scum but i mean, in general it is >_> this game just really put me in all sorts of situations i'm uncomfortable in. learning experience to be sure.

Nahdia · Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:36 am

In post 2057, MathBlade wrote:Nadhia IMHO your game was terrific. Gotta go as about to drive carpool back but just wanted to give kudos.

thanks, i appreciate some positivity [=

The MM wrote:OMFG Nahdia.

G freakin G. Thanks for carrying a scumteam with a complete newb that collapsed in 1 day in the game (that's me).

carrying scumteams is nothing new for me

though this one was kind of a struggle

Nahdia · Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:08 pm

In post 2073, Ircher wrote:Town should win in a stalemate 4p LyLo BECAUSE : If both pairs are cross-voting the other pair, then that means scum can and should hammer UNLESS such would cause them to lose.

Aihara payed zero attn to the above and cost town the game; town should've won this game.

um, what? scum is obviously never going to hammer their own pair. i seriously don't understand what you mean here.

Nahdia · Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:11 pm

everyone believed the scum with in the other pair. obviously, hammering your own pair clears yourself as scum. but once you do, the game is over, so it doesn't matter.

Aihara believed I was town. the fact that I wasn't self-hammered our pair was moot because beeboy and inspector weren't self-hammering either. and once one of them did, the game ended.