Mini 1803: Hunger Games Mafia (GAME OVER)

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guys pls

HAPPY HUNGER GAMES

dunn my pal its been a while
VOTE: Bellaphant

am i serious? i have no idea.

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What if...we all claimed our home? In the books, out of the 12 districts 4 are career districts. If everyone claims, the careers will either have to fakeclaim or reveal that they are partners. If there is too much people in 1 district, there is mafia. If everything is even, you can kill another person if a person in that district flipped career.

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not a number in here. its the game forums, such as little italy, central parc, ...


Pedit: i dunno, i agree it would be obvious but it wont hunt i guess

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Look, everyone was assigned a district, like 'little italy', 'cony island', ...
What if everyone claimed his district? following the source, all maf is in the same district as other maf (could be 2 districts here)
If it follows the flavour (and tbh i think fire is fan enough for that) there should be about equal amount of ppl in each faction. if not, maf lied about their district and we can find scum in the biggest districts. if all are about equal, the odds are high that maf didnt lie, and we can lynch another claim from that district to see if its a scum district.


this is ofc given that flavour is following the books

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I don't know if it's breakable or not, but why would you base a game on material which is basically a war between districts? but fair enough, we can always claim later.

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Personally, I think it's a hindrance cos you'd be unable to use your ability.

Given that they have an ability. Check the OP, there is also vanilla townie. Mafia would also like to leave if they are suspected, as long as they aren't alone.

What if...we all claimed our home? In the books, out of the 12 districts 4 are career districts. If everyone claims, the careers will either have to fakeclaim or reveal that they are partners. If there is too much people in 1 district, there is mafia. If everything is even, you can kill another person if a person in that district flipped career.

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yes?

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I have catchin up to do

^ interesting idea. Don't know if the flavor here is going to be the same as the books but I do not see how that would hurt town. I can start this off and go popcorn style if enough players agree that this is a good idea.

Actually, this post is probably worse than Kappy's.

Why? And if it's worse, why didn't you change your vote?

VOTE: bins

re: gift. I am pretty obvtown and am likely nk target.

I would very much like it so that doesnt happen plz thx

Obvious? NK target? Since when?

Ok then you're just wrong

And because they've been really awkward? And I said I think anyone who thought claiming was a good idea was scummy & I explained that. They just happened to be the most scummy about it

Well I thought it was a good idea; i came up with it. Am i scum now?

Oh, and I am at L-2. If you all are going to quick lynch me on day one of this game you might as well get it over with and do it.

Already throwing the towel? Wow.

Woops, I forgot to bookmark this.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Wh? Reasons? Naked vote and thats it?

@MOD: can we use the gift with another action / can scum use it with a night kill?

cause das broken if we have a cop

we must give it to a town player no matter what. if they have an action and they can't use it with the commute thing ; they will decide that if its beneficial to use it or not themselves.

Just shut up about the gift, jeez.i got blamed for distracting with district stuff but this isnt? Give it to a townread and shush, scum doesnt need to know who got gifted (not sure if this also applies for commutor but w/e)

@bellaphant: meta is mostly useless. Also, why did you unvote? Town's power lies in pressuring with votes and that is exactly what you are not doing right now. I think my pseudo rvs wasnt that bad at all.

Wtf bins emotional player? Everyone seens to buy it but i dunno what to think of it. Gonna leave it for now, might have to look back at this later on.

Ok finally made it through, srry for not being active, i have finals

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Wh really? Then i misread. With you saying ''we must give it to town'' I thought you meant that we should be sure to gift to town and therefore have to compare townreads n stuff

Anyway if that wasnt the case, my apologies for misreading

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Wtf bins emotional player? Everyone seens to buy it but i dunno what to think of it. Gonna leave it for now, might have to look back at this later on.

...? Are you saying she's lying or what

Im saying that i dont know and that, if she gets wagoned later on and is suddenly agressive or smth, this is something to look back to. For me, this is NAI for now, and depending on how her playstyle develops, it can go either way.

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Except, you can't know that there are tributes from coney island or some of the other districts yet, since nobody claimed those districts yet.
Is this a slip?

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Excuse me? Discussing the gift has most likely positive consequences for scum, so if we need to refrain from either things, it's that one. But as I said a while ago; I don't mind on dropping my plan, faq started that discussion again.

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ok sorry guys i have exams so im kinda inactive but ill try

Whatever - you are going to push me till the end of this day weather or not I am the lynchee.

uh...didnt you say a while ago that you WERENT throwing the towel? because now you are sounding really defeatist...

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@lady and the tramp what are your reads so far?

Bella is null at best to me

@faq did you sheep or is clumsy really in ur scum reads?


i also agree with the gifting plan, for the record. i didnt keep in mind that scum will vote for each other for sure

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yeah okay, my bad, i was looking for some ranger styled list like you guys seem to do and didnt see it immediately. my apologies (again, holy shit, ill be so happy when my finals are over)

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wh? oh sh*t well

@mod

can you remove that please? i thought it was alright since he flipped but apparently not sooo

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I know i am useless but i have an exam coming up
should be able to post some new stuff in a few hours

froot does seem town, FA and dunn as well (like i said before lol)
i dont like kappy's posts so far (iso him, you will see why)
i think lady is town but i hate the whole "im town gift me" stuff
as i said, i didnt know if that AtE was geniune and since bins didnt write a lot of new stuff after that, so i still have her at null
i think bella is scum, but i already said this too
faq nullscum

Pedit goddamit why do you always say what i want to say

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Clumsy is eh...i understand the case on him but i dont agree with it, he does sound really town to me

xtoxm only did setup spec and said you were noisy and that it could be NAI = no contribution at all
he seems like he really wants to know who gets the gift, and he said "assuming we have a 10-3 setup" while the OP clearly says that there IS a 10-3 setup. either he didnt read and is badly prepared town or he's just "how can i know how much scum there is if im not scum?"

i left yume out of my reads last time since you wanted her to reply before discussion

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holy shit my english in the last 2 posts was horrible; if something is unclear just ask

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+ i misread something; he didnt say it was NAI, he said it wasnt town for sure, it can be scummy; however i see more stuff than just noise in your posts

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mostly gut and tone so far, the case on them is basically because they are not involved in the game and therefore make a lot of mistakes + i cant blame him for setup spec since i kinda started that
i dont see that as scummy

pedit you like to post a lot dont you

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i can live with yume's reads as well but there is one thing i wonder: faq is your biggest scumread yet you vote for clumsy? why?

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My gift would go to FA or dunn as well. maybe add froot loop to get a group of 3.

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His posts sound townie, he contributes more than average and he keeps bullshit (="gift me im town!", setup spec, generally just content without content) to a bare minimum.
Good enough?

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I finished my exams so ill read tomorrow
I think faq is scummy but i wont just sheep yet

@clumsy you forgot me in your reads, unless you did it because im null

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Ok so being away for a little in this game is killing me

@Dunn, you said xtomx is is scummy because he has been avoiding the whole faq thing, but avoiding one of the strongest case as scum would be stupid, no? Its a perfect way of lynching town, if faq is town. So wouldnt it be more likely if its either town v town or both scum?


@yume can you give us more yourself? You barely post and the last time u did was just 1 question? (Ive been lurking too but right now im trying lol)


Reads bby
Dunn is still town, his agitation is really townie and so are his questions n stuff
Frozen angel is same as dunn

Froot loop scares me a bit because his play is really analytical and scum could hide in facts but overall town. I really think this is just a playstyle thing, unless someone has meta to prove otherwise?

Lady and the tramp...i iso'd them and it has 1 or 2 cases and the rest is all fluffy and promoting that case. Their case does make sense though... Im gonna put you guys at null.

You guys are all throwing with meta about clumsy but i honestly have no idea about them. I think they posted little as well and their reads seem a bit thrown together. When i asked them what their reads on me were, i got the reply null-town, even though i barely did shit yet apart from setup spec, which most people would call scummy. I dunno, but it felt like an attempt to 'shh i townread you now go away'. Nullscum on this one.

I do not like radja's posts at all for some reason, nullscum

Yume null, reasons above.

Bella still scum

Xtoxm hasnt received a lot of pressure s and in my eyes, he basically threathened dunn ''you said stuff while attacking me that makes u less town (so stop pls) i dont think dunn has to be right about him being scum, but he is right about him deserving more pressure

Dont have enough about kappy yet, ill wait for replacement before sajying anything.

Bins is starting to look town to me, their last posts sounded okay. I just hate the fact that you post so much adding a lot every time

I dont think faq is the right wagon atm because he has been pushed all game long, so hes had little time to contribute and has to defend himself every time he posts. Its a good way of catching scum, yes, but it also biases you reads on him.

No, i wont join either of the 2 leading wagons, im going to sheep dunn on this one.
VOTE: xtoxm

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^on phone so i apologise for spelling mistakes and lack of quotes

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No im not in this game i just decided to shitpost in it cause i saw your name lmao

Xtoxm hasnt received a lot of pressure s and in my eyes,

he basically threathened dunn ''you said stuff while attacking me that makes u less town (so stop pls)

i dont think dunn has to be right about him being scum, but he is right about him deserving more pressure

Woah hold on

Slow down there chap

He never did that.

He said that you, in your case against him, said things that lowered his town read on you. I read that like the way mentioned above. You dont have to agree, but thats how i see it

And really, bins has like a billion posts. A lot of those are just 5 posts that could have been 1.

FA nope im not following you on this yet. Present me a stronger case, but right now i dont think you can fully scum/townread him based on only defense

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What I take from it is Dunn likely town, i've moved you to mild town due to some sensible comments

Then what the fuck is this?!

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Ive been lurking again and im sorry, i just graduated
I dont think faq nor clumsy is scum but if you really want someone lynched i guess you can go for faq. Not happy with it though.
For everyone who didnt specify their gifting:
Lady, frozen angel, dunn, froot.
Vote one of these four. (Nearly) everyone has those.

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@vedith i barely posted, my ideas of who are scum are totally different than those of others, most people didnt like my posts. Why am i in your top 3?
You also said that you aren't voting faq and you said they could be both alignments. What about clumsy? You said ''about clumsy and faq'' but never said anything about them.

Btw this is not calling you out, this is interest.

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...fine. I already said that he got so much pressure so soon already that you can't see if he really is scum or now. Your view on him is biased, scum or not.
But no-lynch is worse D1 than mislynch and as i said, i don't have reads of him. By saying that he got pressured too much i hoped it would stall a bit but w/e

ITH

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If nothing happens, im hammering in about 6 hours.

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I will wait for a claim, but i will sleep in 6 hours so i will hammer if nothing happened. Unless someone else can hammer?

@vedith could you post your reads?

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I can see scum vedith trying to buddy me by stating I will be likely conf town if faq flips scum

and unfortunately I can see scum vedit stating FAQ is town over and over for getting town cred

I can't see a scenario vedith is town in.

I think i pretty much stated the same?


@vedith you call xtoxm out for having no opinion on his own but your reads are extremely similar to mine?
I think its best if you just read everything now. We dont need a post by post analysis, but that helps us a lot, see: lady

@froot day end is in 2 days lmao we have time

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Okay so
Can everyone please stop with the ''im town fuck off'' qnd the ''hes 100% scum'' bullshit? It wont change anyone's minds and it's just annoying to red.

I reread the whole game and faq does look worse to me than before. Until now, I've missed a lot of his sheeping.
Bins could possibly be scum, but if AtE is their playstyle you can't know right now
Im more interested in seeing faq/xtoxm flipping today.

@frozen angel faq wagon did slow down but he was at L-3 or higher for like more than half the game. I do think there is bussing scum on it, however.
@dunn im not really getting your case on bins atm (as usual) but do you really think its going to work? Its not really evidence imo.

This gamehas a lot of really active posters. Sometimes its a lot of work to catch up after even just a day. That could explain the clumsy lurk. We'll see about him.

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@dunnstral are you shitting me? My first few posts contained nearly nothing. Im trying to contribute and somehow my posts are bad?
''Work'' because you arent getting her lynched today, so why bother making the case right now, a day before the deadline?
You, frozen and froot loop all are active, not to say you and frozen really active. Thats not a problem at all, thats good. Sometimes its just scary to work on 5 pages that ive missed.
I also dont think that what you pointed out about bins is evidence. Let them explain why they voted faq and think clumsy is town before saying ''all evidence points towards you'' do you have anything else on why they might be scum. And do you really think scum!bins would go about defending scum!clumsy that poorly? I think bins knows better than that.

@frozen angel im pretty sure i saw your case, i might have forgotten some parts of it.

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Like, dunn seems to be trying to make a shitload of last min cases. First, he jumps on xtoxm, then he says there is evidence against bins. And now my posts are also bad? What are your current reads, dunn?

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So, should i do the same as xtoxm and fly under the radar to not get noticed by dunn? No, sorry.
I think your case on xtoxm was good. I didnt like his posts either.
Then trying to make a case on bins or me seems to be because the xtoxm wagon never pulled off.
Hell, i was the one that said that bins' AtE defense was NAI and that you guys shouldnt just leave them with a townread. If i was scum and we were partners, why would i do that? I couldve just left it and them get away with it, i wouldnt be and trouble and bins wouldnt be. Trying to call scumteams already is just useless fluff.
You are playing totally different than last game as well, dunn. (If everyone throws meta why cant i)

Oh and im not trying to chainsaw. You are allowed to vote bins, but i just think your reasoning is poor. I never said i saw bins was town; you can look back and see for yourself.

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Oh and im not trying to chainsaw. You are allowed to vote bins, but i just think your reasoning is poor. I never said i saw bins was town; you can look back and see for yourself.

You interjected yourself in when I was trying to get a read on bins and then later attacked me.

I said that your reasons for voting bins were bad and exaggerated (''all the evidence points towards you'')
And then you attacked me lmao
On which i said that your vote hopping seems a bit random and out of the blue
I dont see that as chainsaw tbh

Inspectorscout, I know it's really early but what is your possible scum team right now?

Actually nevermind post 884 I don't need it anymore

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What made you change your mind in those few posts?

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Because id like to know why he wants to try and call me out on a bad scumteam and then changes his mind? When people ask for scumteams this early its always to give someone more negative feedback because right now, i dont think anybody can make believable scum teams

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nice dodge

It's more that I'm about to chuck my vote on Clumsy, but I don't want it to be L1 before I do.

So because you dont seem to agree with FA you jump on the other wagon?

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VOTE: faq
And L-1 for my dear friend as well.


I dont think these 2 wagons are our best choice but out of the 2, im going for faq.

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The hammer was fine. I dont think we wouldve had a claim anyway

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Holy shit guys calm down, wait for the flip and relax a night before accusing people ''if he flips...'' He will flip soon and then we can go all out tomorrow
Ur just upsetting each other and this is going nowhere

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Page top not intended

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So basically the same lists but bins is added in the last and dunn is safe there? Lol

And me before bella LMAO

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+ a small btw: town cant afford 4 mislynches.

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@dunn: to answer the question you didnt need anymore, my biggest scumreads are bella, xtoxm and vedith


I knew you were gonna say that thats a 'slip' but it wasnt. Do you really want me to write 'we'? ''Town cant afford'' makes it seem like its not only on me but also on you all if you get what i mean

Pedit: because there is 3 scum to lynch and at least 1 of that person is already town?

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Actually i did say ''4 mislynches'' but i didnt mean that all the ppl in that list are town and will be mislynched. She wrote it as in ''if we dont win then lynch, then lynch, ...'' And i dont think she is sure of that list at all. All im saying is that we cant afford the ''ok we didnt win NEXT ONE GOGOGO'' and therefore following a list like that is retarded (but it does help as a kind of reads list)

Ahaha dunn really? Dont u guys ever read? Someone else in this game did the exact same thing

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Dunnslip noted

Jk lmao
Gnight

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@yume: id like your opinion D2 then. Reads?

VOTE: Dunnstral
Yesterday you wanted a wagon on me/xtoxm. Why would you resume with a wagon on bins? Hoping vedith and i will sheep?
FA isnt chainsawing. Again. You voted bins for some weird reason and thats..weird. Your twilight game yesterday felt awkward and forced, as much as your push on me and teaming me with bins.

@xtoxm what is your opinion on the past events?

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That vote from xtoxm actually makes a lot of sense
But i think dunn has to flip first. If h flips scum, im pretty sure clumsy will flip scum as well.

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Do you have no opinion on FA/Bins/Inspector scout?

I defended bins only because the case on them was shitty. I never said i townread them. There is a huge difference.
FA did the same thing, probably she has a reason too.
Calling the 3 of us a scumteam because of that is plain opportunism and bad/scum play.

My scumteam at this point is dunn-clumsy-???
With the ??? being vedith most likely, but unsure about that one.

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Vedith, could you stop making people angry and give us a decent case? You are taking the fun out of the game for 1 specific person. Hell, even if she is scum you could at least try to be respectful.

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I think
That the majority of this discussion is irrelevant to the game and it will only upset people.
Why not just move on?
@vedith: yesterday you said that you would read the game during the night. What changed? What do you think about everyone after reading? [Insert other relevant questions here]

@everyone: Friendly reminder: dont play mafia like this, it takes the joy away. And if even yume stops lurking to tell you that, something is seriously wrong.

Other friendly reminder: who got commuter? And double voter? Who are you nominating for today's gift?
My picks are froot/FA/yume

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@vedith: yesterday you said that you would read the game during the night. What changed? What do you think about everyone after reading? [Insert other relevant questions here]

Before this day started
My opinions barely change.
Clumsy is scum with Bins imo though.
My opinions on who are townie don't change. So although there was alright content after page 10, the first 10 pages summed up my opinion overall with the exception of Clumsy scum, and FAQ had at least 2 scum on it. I would be preferable for thinking 3 scum were there though.

So nothing stood out in all those pages? You say that you never said dunn was town. What is your read on him then?

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Other friendly reminder: who got commuter? And double voter? Who are you nominating for today's gift?

Commuter doesn't reveal themself, double-voter will end up revealed anyway (I suspect froot loop has it)

Ok/i have the same feeling/where is your answer to question 3?

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Just say it clear, right now you are just ''he might be but might not be but yeah but no but yeah..'' Have a clear stance, even if its null. Right now you just seem to be dunn's scumbuddy not daring to say something, afraid to be called out on this read later on. By saying what you just said you can talk your way out of things like you just did ''i never explicitly said that...''

Pedit: im pretty null on radja because they didnt say a lot yet

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Well, you can actually put it as town if you want it official. So later you can use that against me, how does that sound?

I think you are misrepping me. I never said i wanted to use your read against you, it just seemed like you were avoiding a clear read on dunn for some reason, you did the same D1 so thats why i asked. Thank you for an answer.

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Note that Bella is scumreading both Bins and Inspectorscout





But then votes me

I havent seen them explaining anything (and yes blindly sheeping is a bad thing) but maybe their reads changed since D1?
I dunno, juuuust sayin

Do you still think scumteam is FA/me/bins?
Cuz im thinking more of a...dunn/clumsy/vedith right now

Pedit: or just gift it to the person that is most likely town? Scum can fakeclaim, this is a closed/semi-open setup

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Vote Count 2.01

Vote Count 2.01

Clumsy Phoenix - [2] Xtoxm
Radja -
Frozen Angel - [1] Dunnstral
Vedith - [2] Frozen Angel, Yume
Froot Loop -
Xtoxm –
Bellaphant -
Yume -
Bins - [1] Vedith
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Dunnstral - [2] Inspectorscout, Bellaphant

Not Voting - [4] Clumsy Phoenix, Radja, Froot Loop, Bins

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Mod Notes – Radja V/LA until July 10.

Day 2 ends and gift votes are due in (expired on 2016-07-16 22:52:59)

Wait
Either this is a mistake or xtoxm is the double voter

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Why would scum fake claim pr to get a bulletproof vest......

So an actual pr wont get it?

Not sure on you scout

It's at least fa/bins

Could be clumsy

Could be bella

Im thinking bella is one of your many weird intent-to-wagon to avoid a bigger one but w/e, leaving this discussion because it doesnt prove shit other than your disagreement with the others
Im thinking fa is pretty much town
Bins nulltown so far but more null than town
Your clumsy read is interesting; was faq worse than clumsy? And why would clumsy be susp in your opinion?
Yesterday you were hard-scumreading me; what changed?

PEDIT agreeing with you on doublevote
PEDIT PEDIT i wanted to send mine to you to get xtoxm dead but changed my mind and gave to fruit as well

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VOTE: dunn

Sheeping FA. I wanna go check out something with the lady flip as well.

Rereading some stuff
Why say you sheep FA while FA voted vedith and i was on dunn? Lol

my idea is not garbage. Its worth listening to and it will get you and your scum buddies lynched

But why would I listen to you calling me scum when I'm not?
That makes no sense.

Because you are a normal, kind-hearted player and you listen to everyone's opinion because they might be valuable, even if they scumread you?

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Note that Bella is scumreading both Bins and Inspectorscout





But then votes me

I havent seen them explaining anything (and yes blindly sheeping is a bad thing) but maybe their reads changed since D1?
I dunno, juuuust sayin

Posting this again because dunn probably didnt bother

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Don't really know what to respond to in your case....

I feel like it's either confbiased or just a big misrep

Don't act like Bella's vote on me makes sense.

I think the case is pretty much okay

And i can see why people would vote for you. Im doing the same.

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Why are people leaping up to defend Bella?

Because your attempt to start a case is once again a bit poor?

You should really sort out this game man, half the playerlist is your scumread

And frost is a goddamn ninja, i cant post anything without her posting the same

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I also White Knighted both lynch wagons and you townread me so that is a pretty weird argument
I agree with everything else

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You seem to be discounting the possibility that clumsy is mafia and vedith put him to L-1 (where I could have potentially hammered him)

What do you think of that? Would your opinion change?

Stealing FA's reply because this is were i wanted to go eventually

If clumsy is maf and vedith too, vedith put him at L-1 so it seemed like scum wouldnt do so, but he knew i was going for faq and you could then lynch faq without questions asked

If that makes sense to you

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Neither of you guys seem inclined to listen to me regardless, I don't want to flood the game thread again

I am trying to listen but honestly i dont get the point you are trying to make
I told you why bella's thing is NAI until we get an explanation or a hard-lurk
I dont know who you want to push apart from bella
You are defending vedith with ''i think hes town''

But i think its best if you, me, frozen and vedith just stop posting for the next few hours and cool off because frustration gets us nowhere and takes the fun away

Pedit: where the actual fuck does that come from?
Pedit pedit: >.<

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If you want me to reply, sure. I cant login to ms on my pc for some reason (neither for outlook and stuff but that doesnt matter) so i wont work with quotes. Ill try to do a parallel response to ur case

Case reply:
You start with ''if shes maf she could know its useless'' but if i recall correctly she wasnt at all the only one saying that we shouldnt claim. Her conclusion that it distracts is even good, not bad.

Not going to talk about that misrep since i didnt closely follow that. It could be true.

The jump on clumsy indeed wssnt that good, if they explained why clumsy looked bad it wouldnt have been a problem.

The reads really are ''scum but maybe not, town but maybe not'' so you are right about this, as well. What if she posted new reads with clearer stances. Would that satisfy you?

The interactions arent that forced imo. LatT did the same stuff.

Those bellaphant things...you are blowing them up hugely. Again, naked accusions are bad, but asking where she is doesnt scream scum to me imo. And if they were partners, bussing wouldnt have been needed back then, so why would they?

I have the feeling nobody pays close attention to whats being said

You are right, although i have the same feeling. Sometimes you are really townie, but then you do some scummy af shit and i dont know what to think about you after.

That is very much something town says. Not everyone keeps repeating ''just rope him'' or tries to make the best case in history, sometimes you have to show confidence. It is used by scum tho, but that would be hard bussing? Why?

Yeah i dont see the scumminess in it

The final part seems to be the only really good part of your case. I didnt even see that, but its 100% true; they say totally different stuff before and after.


Yeah no i think a lot of it is confbias but there are some pretty good parts in your case. I still dont like vedith/clumsy/you a lot (but youve gotten way better again) but if we get at the end of a day i could settle with bins.

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I also voted for froot, btw

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Froot loop means that what you are saying adds up to pretty much NAI stuff, like I said before. Only your last part was good. Its not about objectively scummy, and you know that very well. Your case is mostly ''if bins was scum this is scummy'' but thats circular reasoning. Like, the things she does as scum make her scum?
I dont intend to discredit your case, im just saying a lot of it is just making it longer without contributing to it, and i think froot means the same.

I dont like how FA's case on vedith was ignored, though. It didnt have quotes, but i think, next to some confbias, there were valid points.

I want to hear more input from bella and clumsy as well, at this point.

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Catching up again, im sorry.

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So you're townreading Bella now? Anything else that's changed since you read the game? (You said not much had changed before.)

Not much has changed.
I don't feel someone as null to town is much of a change, considering I still have scum reads as the same, and my town leans are more town.

This reasoning is retarded. ''I think town is almost the same as null and since town and scum reads only goit better''
Why didnt you give it to your townreads?! It makes no s e n s e at all.

Lets hope you can redeem yourself and actually vote Bins / Clumsy / Radja today.

I thought we agreed to lynch you, in yesterday's twilight?

Has there been a change since day start? I'm assuming that Bella was your second strongest town read during the night because you voted for her to receive the double vote. If that's true, can you explain why (referencing specific posts/play) she moved from null to strong-town. If it's not true, why did you make the decision to vote for Bella?

It's pretty hard to say in an order (I mean, do you have an exact order)? inspectorscout, Dunn, yourself and Lady were all up there with Bella.

Reason I didn't vote you and Lady? High chances of being killed.
Reason I didn't vote Dunn? Although I strongly felt his hammer was fully justified, there was always a nibble that it was a save. After today I have 0 doubt on him being scum right now (And not because he called me town, that's a null point).
inspectorscout seems more by gut personally.
I've only really played with Bella here (that I'm aware of) from my town reads, and felt okay with voting her.

Keep in mind, if I wanted to lie, I could of just said, "Yeah I voted Froot too, how strange!"

I knew that my vote would be a negative view from others going from day 1, but I feel it's a good enough reason on myside.


Concerning quotes, back stories etc - I won't be doing that while at work, but I will later.

This is not what you said.
You said you got more confident in your townreads while bella became one (actually you said she's null but null=town in your eyes) so logically seen she shouldn't be your gifting choice.

I do agree with the froot vote thing; that has crossed my mind, as well.

I don't have an order, I was just wondering where Bella was or your thinking behind voting for her. Thanks for clarifying that.

I haven't thought about a group of three yet, in the context of their play together, but I'm concerned about Yume and Clumsy definitely. Radja, we haven't seen a lot of yet and I've posted what I think about you and Dunn, who are more complicated cases.

I tend to disagree with yume and radja. Yume always lurks, and that makes her hard to read. Radja was just inactive. I see absolutely no reason as to why they belong on a list with clumsy.

Xtomx, if you're claiming you had nothing to do with gaining the gift, I agree that scum probably did it to throw suspicion on you. That or someone has a super strong town read on you and gave it to you.

This is a pretty weird statement, but ill leave it until we get some flips

I voted for the hiplop slot for the vote

Hiplop was LatT right?

O lel i posted here
Well, now read more thoroughly

Bella, why did you ignore dunn's opinion on you? You could have at least defended yourself, no?

@Froot - concerning your Bins defence comment.

You say that you agree with Bins with the response to hammering, however, I don't feel you understand the actual issue. Bins even said before hand that she doesn't believe FAQ's PR claim/hint, and also asked/implied for the hammer. As soon as the hammer happened, her attitude changed to a 180 as if she was against FAQ being lynched. It's obvious that she was trying to take attention away from herself and instantly try to pile it onto Dunn to push for the next day. As soon as FA was questioning it, Bins then even changed her stance again saying that it wasn't a bad hammer. Scum do not hold real opinions in these situations, and Bins showed that she didn't hold a real opinion.
The fact you are arguing that there isn't enough evidence for Bins to plant a case on Dunn, is actually the same as saying there is not enough evidence to actually vote anyone today. It's a ludicrous comment in all honesty. She was obviously trying to warm up for the push until FA got involved.
I don't believe that Bins isn't reading the game, I believe she is doing exactly what she done on day 1 and dodging the thread as much as possible once any pressure goes on her.

Also, what makes you believe that part about her reads not being developed? That's an easy get out of commenting card, and for that alone we should be jumping on her.

Happy with the Clumsy vote though, and happy to vote there today as well if the deadline creeps up.

Just to confirm, is Bins null or town for you?

As i do agree with her change of stance being weird, i cant say you arent right. I do believe you are dramatising this, and its basically the only good part of dunn's case, just reworded. Are you trying to take credit for it?


Post 1344 is even a better example of spreading out dunn's case

Gonna post this and see a bit for the last few pages

Sorry for the wall!

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Alright Bins, you knew this was coming with peruvian nightclub mafia ending

This probably won't mean much to most people so just... ignore it, but if you're so inclined:

Spoiler: Bins mafia theory

First of all, I'm referencing this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66258

Right now, keep in mind that Bins post total in that game us roughly 3 times more than her posts in this game so far. Now, that in itself means nothing.
I could argue that Bins is different this game (which I do believe) but there was something else, something... peculiar I noticed a while ago that I've been thinking on

I ctrl + F searched her iso in that game for '!'. That's right, just the exclamation point

What I found was: She used '!' around 4 times as much in that game as she did this game

Sounds insignificant, right?

Well, I also did quick skims and calculations and tried removing '!' that appeared inside quotes

Here is the personal conclusion I arrived at:

Bins used around 40% more exclamation points when she was town

Statistically significant? I know some people would argue no and that it doesn't mean anything, but for me I can see this as a byproduct of Bins having to fake things; she's less excitable than when she was town because.... she's not

You wat.

11 minutes to prod range

The master

I wasnt intending a pod dodge lmao, but yes im master.

I still have Dunn as my only scumread as of now.

So I can't have more than one?

Am i allowed to say dafuk?

This is a waste of your time, Dunn. I'm not getting lynched. Please pull up another read. I suggest the same to Vedith. I'm fine with you thinking I'm scum, whatever. Don't tunnel me, though. Have thoughts somewhere.

I agree about the meta being weird (and possibly a bit farfetched) but why just say ''move on you wont get me lynched''? Be sure they can get you lynched, i slightly townread you but that can change. I agree about the tunnel though. There have been 2 cases this day, one on bins and one on vedith. Clumsy is getting abbit disregarded and thats not the best scenario but w/e

OH WAIT

actually this is pretty interesting but I know. I was never pushed in Peruvian hard. I change a lot as soon as there's people pushing me. ESPECIALLY IF I'M TOWN. You've (and Vedith) have been on my throat so much more than anyone was in that game.

Jesus. This is so ridiculous it's fun.

What is your point? I dont really care about your meta and i think most people dont. Based on that exclamation bullshit alone nobody will lynch you, and defending like this seems weird. It does fit your profile as emotional player, though.

Not sure yet.

We have 8 days, no rush.

and like I said I'm not finished catching. why do you keep wanting me to make decisions you know I can't make

While we may have a number of days before deadline, don't you think we need to be determining who to lynch? How far behind are you?

You have a whole game full of info and this is where you start? Nice

Nothing really changed, i want to see clumsy or vedith lynched today. Period.

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I don't like Yume's play at the beginning of today which is why I put her in there with Clumsy.

Okay, maybe that's true. I still dont think shes even close to being as scummy as vedith/clumsy, though.

Bella's 1391-1392 looked forced and fake af but nobody mentioned this, so it might just be my confbias.

Well, you struggled to understand my comment. It's not that null to town is almost the same, it's my overall reads excluding the null to town. I'll give you credit for trying there though kiddo.

You said bella was a more null read of yours. Even if you count all nulls in the 10 townies, there is no reason to gift to your null reads AT ALL. Dont try to twist your words afterwards,

kiddo.

"discussed or negotiated and then accepted by all parties."
Trying to use these words again are you, kiddo?

We (the players active at the time) just said it and were okay with it. I think we can get majority on you. If you dont show up voting, your voice doesnt count. If you are voted, your voice also doesnt count in that process. Trying to use a dictionary for discussions instead of having arguments yourself,

kiddo?

I also had reasons behind the other reads. Read my comment again and you may see, little buddy!

Those reasons are shit and you know that. Why always try to use words to disrespect me?

Whether you believe it to be dramatised or not, fact of the matter is that you agree with it. And considering you are saying I'm right (see bold), then you should be voting here or pushing it. I see no other actual interaction at Bins or about her apart from you calling her statement weird, but you will let it slide until some people flip...
And regardless if our views are based around the same (me and Dunn), you can clearly see that this was a concern of mine before the flip even happened.

No. You posted your case twice, and it was 100 based on dunn's case. You copied the idea behind it it and you are now trying to take credit out of it. Before the flip, your concerns were ''o lol didnt read lmao''

There's a good lad, now go into the wild and make me proud!

Fuck you. What are you even trying? Your intention doesnt seem to play like any respectful person would, you just seem to enjoy making people angry.

I just saw i never moved my vote off of dunn.
VOTE: vedith

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Dunn is acting like a town leader but thats his playstyle. He should learn to question the ppl sheeping him sooner, though.
FA has all right to dislike it, but i think you should just let that rest. Im all up for discussing vedith, though.

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Here are my general thoughts on VedithL

I think as scum he would have been more likely to have jumped on me when he replaced in, instead of looking at who I was looking at (xtoxm and bins)
Though I also find it strange that he seems to have me as his weakest townread on the border of being scum, when he seems to think all my casing and stuff is good?
If he were scum I can see him pushing bins who is town and then turning on me
Off the top of my head, has he interacted with Clumsy Phoenix? I feel like he could have easily pushed there so if he is scum I'd say Clumsy Phoenix is too

So yes, I could see him as scum
But, he's not who I'd want to lynch until tomorrow at the very latest because reasons

Or: he didnt read shit and jumped on whatever seemed fine to him? You were making last min cases and those are safer than jumping on some random wagon, not knowing why?
You said it and now he wont jump on you.
Reasons? Id love to see him hang today already

because reasons

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I told you, I'd explain why on day 2. And if I died before then, it would become apparent anyway.

Sorry if you don't like that.

Interesting that Dunn was saying D2 and now changed to D3. I was just getting ready to post that it was already D2. Dunn mostly sounds town to me though his random vote on me is rather weird.

D2 was a typo and he said that as well.
His vote isnt random at all, its called pressure. You mentioning it shows that it was a good idea.

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I say that and I don't mind you being pressured, but right now I just want to hang vedith. I'll have more than time enough after he is dead.

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You said bella was a more null read of yours. Even if you count all nulls in the 10 townies, there is no reason to gift to your null reads AT ALL. Dont try to twist your words afterwards, kiddo.

Hey kiddo, I know my words were hard for you, but Bella was a null before I selected her. I selected her after I read the game. Okay, we can do this, you can colour inside the lines this time as you as you try!

We (the players active at the time) just said it and were okay with it. I think we can get majority on you. If you dont show up voting, your voice doesnt count. If you are voted, your voice also doesnt count in that process. Trying to use a dictionary for discussions instead of having arguments yourself, kiddo?

I had to use a dictionary, I can see that you haven't used one recently. I had to educate you on a word you decided to use. I think you should thank me.

Those reasons are shit and you know that. Why always try to use words to disrespect me?

I think they are valid reasons. Also, you are disrespecting yourself right now. I'm just enjoying the show.

No. You posted your case twice, and it was 100 based on dunn's case. You copied the idea behind it it and you are now trying to take credit out of it. Before the flip, your concerns were ''o lol didnt read lmao''

I guess you struggled to keep up in twilight kiddo... I clearly said that Bins was trying to distance herself from the wagon. And guess what, that was before Dunn's case.

Fuck you. What are you even trying? Your intention doesnt seem to play like any respectful person would, you just seem to enjoy making people angry.

I can't help it if you're sensitive, kiddo.

I just saw i never moved my vote off of dunn.

Yeah, remembering where to vote is hard some times!

Should I even bother trying? You just try to make me angry without properly responding. So I'm just going to ask.
1. Why did Bella become a townread? And don't you go shitting with stuff before page 10.
2. I don't need a dictionary to know that people want you dead. Period.
3. You case on bins wasn't about distancing from the wagon, it was abouther sudden change of thoughts. That is the cause of what seems to be distancing, but it's not the case itself. You would know that if you didn't copy it.
4. Remembering where to vote isn't hard, I'm conservative with my votes and I don't use them to threaten or whatever. I vote when I want to lynch. And I have the feeling I won't move this vote anytime soon.

@everyone we should state gifting? If thats even useful.

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This whole discussion about gifting is good, but useless right now. If they were manipulated; so be it. The person who can do so doesnt claim? Then we should assume its a scum role and lynch the person claiming it on L-1 unless they have a VERY good excuse.

@bins are you going to back that up? (I would have done the same if I really didn't want vedith dead)

Yume is town. Seems like vedith is in need of some context lessons, though. When you scumread someone and they flip town, thinking you are always right is NOT maintaining that read after the flip, but pretending that didn't happen, go with excuses like ''he asked for it'' and still going on pretending as if you are always right. I don't see why her statement would be wrong.

PEDIT lmao yume are you going to ninja me as well

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Yume is town. Seems like vedith is in need of some context lessons, though. When you scumread someone and they flip town, thinking you are always right is NOT maintaining that read after the flip, but pretending that didn't happen, go with excuses like ''he asked for it'' and still going on pretending as if you are always right. I don't see why her statement would be wrong.

PEDIT lmao yume are you going to ninja me as well

Wait, when did I ever say he asked for it?
I moved on trying to read the game and looking for scum in that game. You are being 100% biased here just because I called you kiddo. That's actually anti town.
Her statement is wrong because she is lying about it.
I called another player scum he turned I then gave reasons to why someone else was scum.
Miss lynching always happens. If I cried every time I got a read wrong I'd forever be crying over it.

I said ''go with excuses LIKE'' and gave one of such possible excuses. I never said that you ever did so. If youare allowed to discuss like this, so am I.
I am not biased at all, I scumread you way before you did so. As a matter fact, you started saying 'kiddo' when i tried to discuss with you.
Anti town or scum? Because I don't know what your read on me is.
I also never said you should cry. You should, however, tone down your ego when playing. It might be playstyle, but it makes me hate this game.

Pedit: sad that i think clumsy is scum as well because hes the first to actually notice your disrespect.

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@bins are you going to back that up? (I would have done the same if I really didn't want vedith dead)

Eh, Vedith looks thoroughly convinced that I'm scum but I'm not sure if it's genuine.

Trust me. I want him dead as well, but I'm not sure if I'm making an unbiased decision there. You can be dead wrong and town.

Skybird needs some pressing.


Dunn finally gets what I'm saying, though. Thank you.

Ok i agree on this. However, i dont think im biased. Hell, even if i am i wouldnt mind roping him.
Skybird does need pressure, but i wont.

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What was the reason of speaking to me like that?
And back on topic: could you give reads with explaination once you are on pc?

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I know that what yume said is most likely right because you are incredibly arrogant.
I'm not angry at all, actually. I'm sitting here, calm and pretty much smiling. Also, why are you so sure of me not playing to my goal? If you are town I'd be playing to my wincon if I was scum
I never asked if we agreed to lynch you, i just mentioned it. If all other players can talk to me like normal people, im sure you can do the same.
Have i ever attacked your reads without telling why they are bad?

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Oh and

@mod: prod bella please (possibly by igniting the forest where she sleeps)

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I made you aware of a fact, vedith. That's all.
Give me a case on 1 person that is not bins. There is 3 scum, so you should be able to find one. Oh and, please, let's not make it 'clumsy was at L-1 and dissapeared ever since and he doesnt contribute' because that has been said a dozen of times already.

@clumsy its nice that you want to be the fair play guy and all but could you contribute?


@everyone should we discuss gifting again? 3 players?

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Wait, you are getting associative tells between me, sky and clumsy
Yet the scumteam would be me, sky and froot?
That makes no sense?

If we lynch clumsy and he turns out to be scum, i think i would go after vedith and dunn
If froot is scum id have no idea about scumpartners
After FAQ's flip i started doubting FA more. The twilight made me doubt dunn way more than the flip, though.

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I dont. I am very aware that their playstyle could be really good scum. If froot is scum, we use that against them.
My first real game, there was someone who was very convincing town. He was my only real townread, and every scum wagon was kinda pushed by him. He turned out to be scum and endgamed me. Froot fits that profile.

The point is that their playstyle is highly analytical. That gets way harder when there are less players. Even harder when you are scum. Near the end, it's way easier to find out their alignment by then.

Buuut that won't work anymore.

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It works when you don't say it in the goddamn game. If they are scum, they will be cautious about what i was trying.

You townread froot because she actively contributed and actually wrote down valid stuff, while giving clear opinions.

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Read the second line and my post about the townie guy that was scum.
I townread them because of that second line, and i wont question that read until 1 or 2 scum are dead or until she does something bad. As much as you dont really have something to to townread them for apart from play, you dont have something to scumread them either. Their play has been good.

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I still think vedith is scum.
Dunn's twilight posting was shit.
Thanks for making me paranoid because im now suspicious of froot's WK on me back then.
Clumsy's recent posts don't make him more scummy, the fact that he didn't post anything else is scummy, though.

But let me get this straight: froot is scummy by PoE because vedith and dunn are town in your opinion, but they aren't town in your opinion yet?

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Scum, not scummy

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WK is white knighting. It refers to defending me (possibly without needing to). It's a buddying technique.

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can we get a vc?

consider my vote on veidth in theory.

Why?

If Bella vote's for Vedith, he'll be at L-1.

Some brief thoughts about Vedith and why I think he's scum:
- He came in yesterday and didn't read the game, had strong views and refused the two main wagons.
- I feel like he's been buddying up to Dunn. He described Dunn as town by PoE in 1161 and his description of Dunn's play in 1457 is pretty hilarious. Like, I can see town reading Dunn because he's been jumping around a lot and doesn't come across as being that calculated. To say that he's talking sense...?
- There's a change in tone between yesterday and today. Yesterday he was more aggressive and today he's been more willing to have conversations and back up his points. That's a positive change, but I question why the change happened.
- His case against Bins is weak.
- There's been loads of things he hasn't responded to, quoted or addressed.
- He's using mod meta as a reason to believe the vote tampering was town. This is a big assumption with implications and I don't think his evidence is strong enough to support that. He hasn't thought through the likelihood of a town player giving the vote to Xtoxm.

Hang on
Weak cases != scum
He responded to most things
Mod meta is ridiculous but not a scum tell.
Tone change could very well be town.

The other things are fine, though. I think vedith is scum as well, but you just made this list longer than it should be

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K i'm going to give it a shot and call its bella scum game.

I remember twon bella more invested.

froot why do you wanna attack my shapping townread on dunn? I'm sure you had him as town before this weren't you?

Vedith day 2 posts were mapping how he feels pretty good that I feel there is cahnce for him to be town thats where all my hesitations started.

I dont like sky's scumread on him though. or clumsy's policy policy policy rampage so there is that

Where exactly did I scumread Vedith? And I repeat my request for the post where you laid out your case on him.

Where exactly did you read anyone?
Id really like some reads tbh

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And this might be the third time or so but shouldnt we indicate who we gift again?
My picks are FA, froot and yume.

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So who's scum because we're running out of time I think? ^

We can go back to the guys that lurked out D1
Since theyre pretty obvious scum?

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VOTE: clumsy phoenix
Lets just end this day

State votes please.

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Lol you see what you see but you dont seem to know why you see.
Its really easy but if you dont see i wont tell.
Im sorry for being vague

Also clumsy is scum
If he flips scum id see vedith as town, ill believe FA on that one
But then id see dunn as scum, as well
Third one...not going to pull dat read out of my ass

Pedit i saw FA as scum but she kinda cleared that up for now imo

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Also

@mod: I'll be V/LA starting the 16th until the 19th. If I'm not back by then, it means my internet in China is shit and you'll have to replace me. Normally that shouldn't happen, though.

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Insperctorscout

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VOTE: Clumsy

yeah fine

bins I'm judging you if that flips town.

You have all the right to do so

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Those two are baaaaaaaad gift votes in your position

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Add meand ur fine thanks

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Like im a good townread and i want a bulletproof

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If clumsy really is town
We should look at the other side of the spectrum
= FA, froot, bins, (me)
xtoxm?
But nonetheless how scummy this may sound, I want vedith dead first.
VOTE: vedith

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At least we know they don't have day chat

The Careers have day chat.

Nice try?

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This game has been so frustrating and personally I can't wait for it to be over.

Really? It seemed as if you were enjoying it?

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Since they have shots
Its possibke
Just not likely

Pedit how much have you done?

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Im talking about progressing the game, not night actions.

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Did you know your posts have a whopping amount of 31?
As much as most are filled with something, i dont call that actively contributing
(That doesnt mean you have to fire 400 posts at this thread like some others)

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S T O P C L A I M I N G
seriously
Are you giving scum free targets?
Cause thats what you are doing

Like, 3 protective claims and 1 neigbor claim D2
Why bins

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OK, my vote will only put Clumsy back to L1.

VOTE: Clumsy Phoenix

I believe the counter claim. I don't see scum counterclaiming because they would know they are going to go down tomorrow if Clumsy flips town protective.

All scum are still alive
1 scum for 1 protective is a damn good trade
Because meanwhile 2 nightkills occur (if there was only 1 protective)
So actually it would be a 3-1 trade with 1 of those confirmed PR
And after that we still have nothing
And right now its 8-3
So they have the numbers in their advantage in that trade as well
Anything better than a confirmed townie WITH protective shots, no?

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im not IS, IS is a terroristic organization. I'm scout.

Why should we look at those 2 but not you?

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Do you guys think it's possible to have two protective roles AND the bp vest/commuter

Uh no.



Yume pls do as if this is our lover thread <3
Ergo explain what you do and more

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Or both bins and xtoxm.
Yes.

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Not saying xtoxm and clumsy since it would mean xtoxm hard bussing which would be shit play
I think

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You wouldnt to save clumsy.
You would becuase you would know clumsy would flip scum which makes your claim 485386.56% more believable --> free towncredit, sale today!

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Because 3 times' a charm?
And you'd be silly scum if you tried to counterclaim 2 protectives?

But note that my vote is still on vedith
So why are you worried?

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But note that my vote is still on vedith

Why...?

If you think Bins could be mafia with clumsy why vote Vedith

Also Yuuuuume

Wait.
You ARE right.
I voted clumsy, not veidth.
I think mod made a mistake
Ah well, to fix
VOTE: clumsy

Im pretty damn sure i voted him

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Anyway ill miss the fun part as usual
Im gonna be vla now
o/ dont lynch me thanks

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Aaaaaa
I dont even remember my actions
Yes its on clumsy now
Yes i want vedith dead
Yes if this claim didnt happen i was convinced dunn was scum with clumsy
And i still am in some way but way less
Im stressed and tired thank you bye

Pedit nightkill then

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You are looking more like zach every day
A few more weeks and ur savant on gifs


Joking aside, who is your scumteam dunn? What you think right now?
And why didnt you comment on my scumread on you?

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Aaaaaa
I dont even remember my actions
Yes its on clumsy now
Yes i want vedith dead
Yes if this claim didnt happen i was convinced dunn was scum with clumsy
And i still am in some way but way less
Im stressed and tired thank you bye

Pedit nightkill then

I mean my scumread on you in this post but w/e

Also yes i was asking for the third person
Why do you seem sure of xtoxm? 3 ppl claimed, not 2.

Also, i defended bins early on. Does that change anything?

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You are looking more like zach every day
A few more weeks and ur savant on gifs

Spoiler:

MY MIND IS LIVING ON CLOUD 9 AND THIS NINE IS NEVER ON VACATION
START UP THAT MASERATI AND VROOM VROOM I'M RACING

Lmao i swear someday i want his

kidneys

hydra

But this is offtopic right

I really think i couldved used FA's advice now because i feel lost
Id see dunn-clumsy-???
Or yes bins-clumsy-???
Or vedith-dunn-???
Or bins-xtoxm-???
But the third never makes sense because xtoxm wont fit with clumsy and bins not with vedith and xtoxm not with clumsy
Skybird/Froot/yume/FA are all viable options in order of preference

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Bins claimed different protective.
Xtoxm would fit in that one, but not like it should.

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I dont know if i should tbh
But on the other hand i really do
But it could be a scum gambit
Or dunn is trying to wifom the fuck out of me
Well ill just leave the judgement up to you guys
Laterz

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Gratz
I shouldve pushed...

Well played, i had a lot of fun!
Thank you for modding UTL and fire!

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I got it right, recruiting town twice
But if i hadnt recruited bins...
The neighborhood isnt that interesting tbh

Pedit: yes, 1 winner like it should be

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Yes the flavor was great
You guys honestly did a great job <3

Zach pls just admit your reads were bad even when you didnt participate

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Mine were surprisingly okay
Except FAQ D1, i did shit there

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Yeah, i still dont know why i claimed
I even scumread you dunn xd

Pedit nah i remain that bins was town af
And who would fakeclaim 2shot tracker 1shot doc

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Is the maf pt going to be released?