Mini 1819: League of Legends: Clash of Fates (Endgame)

[Yume]

Hi.

[Yume]

^Oh noes, he caught me. Whatever should I do, my imaginary friend?

Jacuzzi: W....well, you gotta stay positive.....

That was a good advice.

[Yume]

^Scum found

I mean, how can you be so sure he should get it? You only know your alignment and not his, so.....

Plus, his role could be negative utility if he gains a level.

[Yume]

I understand the way this will go is that you'll ignore me and when I end up being right, you will blame it all on me.

[Yume]

Figured out Katsuki was scum in UT's UPick. No one listened to me.

[Yume]

VOTE: Vedith

I don't want to put up with your 'playing God' attitude.

[Yume]

Quit that. All you're doing is needlessly antagozing other people.

[Yume]

^ @Vedith

I am also seriously considering blacklisting you.

[Yume]

Figured out Katsuki was scum in UT's UPick. No one listened to me.

Probably because 95% of the time (when you actually post) you are wrong.
It's a policy ignore.

Oh, this is rich. When you're wrong, no big deal. When others are wrong, it's the end of the world.

By what you said, that time you were wrong when scumreading my main means everyone should ignore you.

[Yume]

Okay, this isn't going to get us anywhere. Vedith. Simple yes or no answer. Am I on the right track with what I was telling Yume?

You don't know? When Vedith plays, he is the only one who is right even when he's not. Everyone else is wrong and should shut up.

[Yume]

No. She lynched my main when I was town and didn't even care. It's payback time.

[Yume]

I am also seriously considering blacklisting you.

Don't you say this every game, until you replace out, of course.
What's worse, me pushing for scum or you doing fuck all every game and being useless?

You is worse imo. When you stop pretending you aren't wrong if you are then we can talk.

[Yume]

Yume, chill for a mo. Vedith, was I on the right track or am I up shit creek without a paddle?

About what?

And see? You don't care about possible reasons why I am bad. You just want to antagonize me without explaining things. In the game where you mislynched my main, I recall asking you 'why' multiple times and the only response I got was 'lolscum'.

[Yume]

No I don't. That was the gist of what you said. Sure, you covered it up with fancy words, but that doesn't change the meaning.

[Yume]

olalala

[Yume]

olalala

[Yume]

Yume, KTS is scum, you should vote him.

You're a bear, aren't you? You are a bear. Say you're a bear.

[Yume]

Yume, KTS is scum, you should vote him.

You're a bear, aren't you? You are a bear. Say you're a bear.

Spoiler: Toothless

If you want me to vote KTS, tell me you're a bear.

[Yume]

More vote on the dude the better.

Because

wait for it

wait for it...

killthestory is scum!

-plays a song requesting your help-

Who am I voting when we reach page 10?

Why are you linking a song from the show I originated from, you stalker.....

.....

.....are you a bear?

[Yume]

No Annie. Your bear Tibbers went down the river the other day when Teemo planted a mushroom on it and Tris rocket jumped into it, causing a triple kill.

Oh noes, you found out my secret. Now I'll have to kill you...

[Yume]

I don't think RC would allow anybody to pick his precious Annie

[Yume]

I don't think RC would allow anybody to pick his precious Annie

He'd let me though for I am one of his best friends.

[Yume]

VOTE: Firebringer

Farm vote: Yume

There, now we're even. So please admit you're a bear Fire so we can be friends.

[Yume]

How, you ask? Well, I found him, I seized him



and I made him my squishy.

[Yume]

olalala

[Yume]

ANNIE IS DISAPPOINTED IN YOU ALL. D:

[Yume]

Is any of you a bear? If you are, please say so.

[Yume]

Well, basically, you give me a doublevote and compulsively protect me as bodyguard. It doesn't happen until I reach level five, though.

[Yume]

Firebringer is the one most likely to fake them.

[Yume]

I am not faking it, though.

[Yume]

@LLD Are you a bear?

[Yume]

I am not faking it, though.

You're the only one I'm sure is faking as you started asking about who is a bear halfway through day. Everyone else doing it is at least doing it with purpose, even if there are failures in consistency. I don't particularly care if people want to roleplay their roles... Unless I think it's an attempt to get the farm vote.

tbh, I don't care if I get a farm vote or not. I only farm voted myself to get even with Fire.

[Yume]

Also, there is such a thing as having real life. I only started doing it halfway through because that was the time I got on.

[Yume]

Then why isn't he voting me? I am scum in his eyes, so he should vote me.

[Yume]

Well, it'll be revealed that this is, in fact, my flavor one way or another. :3

[Yume]

^I see what you did there.

I found a bear.

[Yume]

Shaz/yume/vedith

Is the pool mundo think is full of big sissies

You calling Annie a sissy? Uh....suuuuuureeee.....

[Yume]

Well, I am at L-1, so......

I am Annie, at level 1 I am a roleblocker, at level 3 I am 1-shot bulletproof and have a doublevote which can be refilled if used to hammer, at level 5 I can summon a bear and have him act as bodyguard for me and gives me a doubelevote ability.

[Yume]

Dunno, ask RC, he made it for me. :/

[Yume]

From her wiki

"If Disintegrate kills its target, it refunds its mana cost and half of its cooldown is immediately refreshed."

I believe that's why the doublevote and its refund when used to hammer.

[Yume]

Because I need to know who the bear is in order to summon correctly.

[Yume]

But okay, hammer me, I don't really care. You decide whether it be a detriment to lose my role or not.

[Yume]

No, I summon a bear. Now, either said bear is nonexistent or is among the other players. That was what I was trying to figure out.

[Yume]

Well, apparently I was mistaken. Carry on.

[Yume]

Oh? Well, test it on me. If I die, you're lying. If I don't, one more farm vote for me won't mean nothing.

[Yume]

Yes. Frankly, anyone who saw my claim and still keeps me at L-1 is a doofus.

[Yume]

I mean, either hammer me or unvote me.

[Yume]

Yeah, well, it's not like anyone would listen to me, and after Kuroi did what he did, it's not worth convincing you cos none of you would listen anyway.

[Yume]

And since you're not gonna listen, it's better to mislynch me now than mislynch me in LYLO like Kuroi did.

[Yume]

And since you're not gonna listen, it's better to mislynch me now than mislynch me in LYLO like Kuroi did.

really?
I think you are emotional, hold grudges that affects this game?
and it is annoying
but I believe your claim.
on a personal level I don't like the just give up attitude but this isn't about that.

When you guys stop doing silly things like hammering town in LYLO, then I'll stop holding 'grudges'.

[Yume]

ME LIKE MUNDO POSTS

ME NO LIKE SHACO'S POSTS

Jester is making it look like Yume will already be lynched and is already thinking about who to go after next and I VERY MUCH do not like it. Summer is kinda just still there. Lycan, if I can finish a long catch up post while being emotional (and drunk) at 2 AM, then you can too dude. Fuckin' A.

Meanwhile, Yume. Convince me. If this is just like Kuroi in LyLo or whatever, link the game and lemme have a look at your reaction vs. your reaction here because this one is bad.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=66940

[Yume]

When I act defensive, people lynch me
When I act apathetic, people lynch me
When I try to scumhunt, people lynch me.

Seriously, what do you want me to do?

[Yume]

I am honestly confused how you think I would be tied to LLD.

LLD is town.
Thanks!

Lycanfire/dullagamur/Random/Yume

its probably random for last one.
Random is my buddy.

Want to help me lynch Yume now?

ftfy

[Yume]

THE ONLY PART YOU PUT IS ABOUT ME AND YUME WHERE YOU INVOLVED YOURSELF!
YUME EVEN CONFIRMED THAT SHE WAS BEING LIKE THAT

BECAUSE LYNCHED HER ONCE

THIS IS NO INDICATION TO MY READ OF FIRE.

SHOW ME MORE. YOU SAY THAT THIS IS A SELECTION AND THERE ARE MORE SO I WANT TO SEE THEM.

OTHERWISE YOUR READ IS 100% FAKE.

No, it's because you continued acting like you were right in that game's dead thread even after I flipped town and called you out on it.

[Yume]

DOES DRAGON WANT TO BRAWL WITH MUNDO

MUNDO WILL BRAWL WITH DRAGON

Hey, hey, hey, why brawl with him? I am the one you want gone, so brawl with me instead.

[Yume]

Jester is making it look like Yume will already be lynched and is already thinking about who to go after next and I VERY MUCH do not like it. Summer is kinda just still there. Lycan, if I can finish a long catch up post while being emotional (and drunk) at 2 AM, then you can too dude. Fuckin' A.

I'm going to reveal a lot about my playstyle here: I believe games are solvable with enough effort put in. I make detailed notes about the game and I can't do this on my phone while resting my back. I have to be on my PC. Catching up for you is different than catching up for me. This type of play is effective when I only need to analyze 2-3 pages, but when my notes had been 19 pages behind it's a combination of gif spam and the fact I fell asleep the moment I came home from work. It takes time. 2 hours min assuming I'm processing a post every 15 seconds. Now add in the fact that this is tedious, I'm on a computer with multiple tabs, the fact that I need to drink, eat, and not yelp in pain in my shitty wooden chair, this takes much longer. More than I'm willing to do in a single day.

If I disappoint you, I'm sorry.

town { jester, maestro, shaziro }
lean town { hiplop, KTS, hoho, firebringer, random }
null { LLD, summer }
lean scum { }
scum { vedith, yume }

(just to confirm KTS is dullagamur's slot right?)

Maestro/Jester are the most town hands down. Maestro is on the right side of the Yume problem IMO. Jester has great interactions and has managed to make a large volume of posts without anything egregiously scummy sticking out. His reads are weird, but he similarly takes a bat to other that have weird reads, like to Shaziro for instance when Shaziro decided to read Yume wrong. Meanwhile Shaziro has been demonstrating that they want to solve problems in the game. I really liked his pressure on Random, ya'll nuts. Maestro is on the right side of the Yume dilemma... Shaziro isn't, which is the only problem I have with him. Yume flipping scum looks great on Maestro as the wagon was hoho-hiplop-ldd. LLD didn't get a say in it, and I think Hoho's just really eager to get votes down. Maestro was the main push vote IMO.

The next tier I'm not sold on. Hiplop was pretty nullish until #659. This looks like a great post. Even when I had him as null he seemed close to LT. KTS has been making aggressive posts. I like those. I like Hoho because he's been open about his role. I didn't notice it at first, but his vote count font changes from size 100 to a maximum of 140 for each stack. His posting in general seems town. I think one of jester/firebringer is town for sure because the interactions aren't S+S. #602 looks good from Firebringer. I like the pressure on SIW even if I don't think she's superscum here.

Random is hanging in there as my weakest townread. I think his scumplay here would be shitplay. If Thresh CCed I would have been on board to lynch Random because if Thresh is town, they're a doctor or jailkeeper role. No matter what happens in this scenario we wouldn't ever lynch the doctor without at least 2 scum claiming (e.g. Random + scum CCing doctor). Either 1:2 or 1:1 via NK. Even if 1:1 for a doctor is typically ok for scum, I wouldn't exactly hate this. But since he's begging for farm so badly I'm not about to call him obvtown as there's a chance that Thresh is 100% a red herring.

LLD is voluntarily adopting a post restriction. She helps at times, others she does not. I don't think her posts are scummy, but how she is posting isn't helping us as much as she could. Summer's pretty complicated. Not from lack of being able to analysis of her posts, but because I feel conflicted and have to put her in the middle. There's more on her at the end of my post.

Yume's a confirmed liar (#296) I also hate her posts 72, 80, 234, 497. Vedith is more complicated, but I don't think it's odd to peg him on a scumteam with Yume despite what happened earlier in day. Yume voted Vedith, but she only did it because she tried to buddy Shaziro 8 posts afterwards.

Vedith was needlessly defensive in #70...#137. Thought #100 was low effort because he was responding to a shitpost. #336 makes no sense. If he's someone like Jarvan, who dunks dragons and vomits rainbows it has nothing to do with whether alignments are random or not, so why say it? I'm sure alignments are random going by my own role PM. #523 seems like a lame post... #600 seems like a continuation of how he was building a scumteam from firebringer's posts... Like an elaborate reaction test... Except it all seemed weak. #600 is the worst of it because he's joking about having daytalk. Creating noise isn't town. I'd give him a pass if he was doing anything remotely townie. #632 "IF you [Shaziro] think I am scum, then surely Fire should be town fo sho?" seems disingenuous because despite supposedly being at odds, the pressure between Vedith and Firebringer has never been real despite having high interactions with one another. It easily reads S+T or S+S to me. The premise is really silly, which makes it seem more like a suggestion than a question of reads. Manipulation like this is scum.

Vedith's interactions are pretty bad. When doing counts I felt like after he saw firebringer and jester talking a lot together, he immediately tried getting in with jester.

As for where SIW stands, I'm not sure. #454 was a suspicious post. My immediate thought was that random's claim was scummy because it could intend to draw out the doc, and it was only after I rationalized it as being an ok trade did I think he sat a bit better. Meanwhile, he obviously wanted the farmvote! (he so much as said that he leveled up well and asked for it) I hated that, and it would be interpreted that he had two potential scum motives for his claim. #560 did seem good to me. Some people don't like her reads. I don't agree with them either, but plenty of people are scumreading Shaziro for instance. It looks like she hates Yume, while her reads are in a position to match Vedith's if she were to move firebringer from null to scum. I don't think her behavior is scummy, but because of #454 I'm going to be interested in her with a Yume scumflip despite #560. I'm nulling her until I see more/post flip.

VOTE: Vedith

vote: jester

You say this like there's zero possibility that I am scum. I gave the link where Kuroi voted me in LYLO and I flipped town, so there's no way that you as town could be this adamant.

[Yume]

I refuse to pander to idiots. If you want to be second Kuroi, go right ahead.

[Yume]

Yume, which person on your wagon seems the most likely to be scum?

SIW why are you still voting Shaziro when he's clearly not your top scumread?

That would be Mundo.

[Yume]

I think I already am, but just in case....

VOTE: hiplop

[Yume]

First off, jester's #789 post is completely flaccid. If your scumreads and townreads influence one another your scumreads influence your other scumreads. A post like that tells me he's ok with Vedith being lynched but not ok with calling any scumpartners of his, because he would probably have to say Yume, and he claims Yume is town because meta or some shit like that which is worth several times less than associatives

in this game

.

Next, the Yume wagon is the cleanest one on the board, and hiplop's on it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's two scum on him right now.

VOTE: SIW

I was holding back when i was putting her in null. I think she looks good with Yume. She's holding a chainsaw for hiplop for when he flips town. If she really hates Yume why is she on Shaziro? That's the worst wagon because random's only on it because he can't comprehend that Shaziro had every reason to grill him for potentially asking for doc CC while asking for farm votes if not CCed.

With how the votes are I'm okay with this lynch too.

That is a huge misrep

huge misrep x2
(I have said why I was on shaz)

why are the farm votes on hiplop if we are lynching him?

because we won't be lynching him, its ridiculous.
why are you voting for him?????

What is the case on him?

because I think he is town and I still stand by scum being in

dwlee (previous fb) yume, and shaz.

VOTE: yume
reasons already discussed why- hiplop is not being the lynch, lurking since got heat, scummy claim?

Are you high?

What's his case on me, hey? It's that he wants me gone.

[Yume]

Oh, so people are townreading nonsense now? Let me try it....

HIPLOP IS SCUM LALALALALALA

[Yume]

HIPLOP SCUM GGGGGG

[Yume]

MUNDO FINDS THIS DRAINING

MUNDO IS SCUM GGG

[Yume]

MUNDO THINKS HE CAN LYNCH PEOPLE JUST BY SAYING THAT MUNDO WANTS THEM GONE. THAT'S WHY MUNDO IS SCUM. MUNDO IS NOT THAT DUMB TO BELIEVE THAT.

[Yume]

The day ends in 13 hours. If you think you can get 7 people to lynch me before then, then I'll nominate you as most charismatic player in 2016 nominations thread.

[Yume]

I doubt they could. They would need a lot of farm votes to gain a day ability of that nature.

[Yume]

Q: What would you do when I flip town? If you are gonna say you'll move on and evaluate, it won't work. I demand an apology from all of you when I flip town. I have had enough of shitty excuses.

[Yume]

And if you question my intelligence, I'll have you know that I had an IQ of 9.87 when I was a baby, so quit bashing me in department.

[Yume]

Don't believe me? Ask my psychologists. And to all of you buying Mundo's act, smh

[Yume]

Well, I guess it's over, so goodbye

VOTE: Dwlee

[Yume]

I have one question. Is self-voting bannable?

[Yume]

Hello, my baby
Hello, my honey
Hello, my ragtime gal

Send me a kiss by wire
Baby, my hearts on fire

If you refuse me
Honey, you'll lose me
Then you'll be left alone

Oh baby, telephone
And tell me I'm your own

Hello, my baby
Hello, my honey
Hello, my ragtime gal

Send me a kiss by wire
Baby, my hearts on fire

If you refuse me
Honey, you'll lose me
Then you'll be left alone

Oh baby, telephone
And tell me I'm your own

[Yume]

if you're town, controversial, if scum to hammer, no.

I am a tyke. A misunderstood individual. I am the forgotten lord of innocence. In other words, I am a corndog.

[Yume]

Oh, and if I am lynched, I kill the one person whose case on me is the least substantial. In this case, it's Mundo. Have fun with that. Annie will be watching from afterlife. Go town!

- Annie the Watchdog of Hell

[Yume]

[Yume]

Goodnight, and may the fourth be with you.

[Yume]

Well, I promise you that if you lynch me, I will flip town. Definitely. And Mundo will die for wanting me dead just because I goofed around by impersonating him afaik. Mundo, if you read me as scum for some other reason, please say so. Otherwise, I am taking you down with me.

[Yume]

So what do you want me to do?! Pretend that I am scum when I'm not? >.>

[Yume]

Actually, I am not lying. I can kill any player who causes me to die by any means.

[Yume]

That ability is called Molten Shield, I believe.

[Yume]

even if you're vengeful you're still scum. who cares.

Okay, but what if I am town? Have you even considered that I could be town? Or is it just 'scum scum scum to you'. Be careful, cos anyone who doesn't reconsider stances is immediately going on my shame list.

[Yume]

Shaziro: vengeful isn't a role easily given to town because it punishes the mafia for successfully mislynching. Vengeful bomb is all kinds of powerful.

Not to mention, she claims to

have RB+Vengeful+Bomb at level 1

. She's overloaded with power or lying. She's confirmed scum.

And you failed the test. 2nd scum found.

[Yume]

Yume, it doesn't help that you refuse to provide content we can work with and focus on forcing people to apologize/threatening to kill them. If I was likely to get lynched, I'd at least provide some reads on every player, who knows if it doesn't prove useful later on?

Lycan does have a point.

Then I'll tell you something. Voting me only gets me into defensive mode and as you said, it's counterproductive. So how about this? In the next day, don't put a single vote on me until I give reads, which I will try to do as soon as possible. Then if they aren't to everyone's satisfaction, feel free to lynch me. If I don't give reads after three real life days pass, then everyone is free to lynch me as well. Everyone wins.

Second thing is, my deduction isn't best on day 1, something you'd know if you played past games with me.

[Yume]

Shaziro: vengeful isn't a role easily given to town because it punishes the mafia for successfully mislynching. Vengeful bomb is all kinds of powerful.

Not to mention, she claims to

have RB+Vengeful+Bomb at level 1

. She's overloaded with power or lying. She's confirmed scum.

And you failed the test. 2nd scum found.

Care to explain?

I never said I have all those at level 1, but he claims I do immediately.

[Yume]

And in another game I played, everyone said the same thing to me and got me lynched, and guess what? I was town like I said.

[Yume]

Also, if you're going to suspect me for lying, then suspect Mundo as well. He really did fake his restriction. I have proof.

[Yume]

It's times like this that I wish I was actually scum so that you'd at least lynch correctly.

[Yume]

And out of all I said, that's what you chose to comment on? What about all the other things I've said?

....Okay then. You are desperate to lynch me no matter what.

[Yume]

@Lycanfire I won't let you skip my posts just to further your scum agenda of framing me. I burned the last person who tried that. I will burn you too. Read this:

Yume, it doesn't help that you refuse to provide content we can work with and focus on forcing people to apologize/threatening to kill them. If I was likely to get lynched, I'd at least provide some reads on every player, who knows if it doesn't prove useful later on?

Lycan does have a point.

Then I'll tell you something. Voting me only gets me into defensive mode and as you said, it's counterproductive. So how about this? In the next day, don't put a single vote on me until I give reads, which I will try to do as soon as possible. Then if they aren't to everyone's satisfaction, feel free to lynch me. If I don't give reads after three real life days pass, then everyone is free to lynch me as well. Everyone wins.

Second thing is, my deduction isn't best on day 1, something you'd know if you played past games with me.

[Yume]

I will burn anyone who tries to mislynch me on Day 1 when I have no adequate info or tries to place a vote on me in LyLo. You have Annie's word for that.

[Yume]

Fuck your meta.

That's not meta, that's the way I play.

[Yume]

And fuck you too.

@Mod I am sorry, but I have to

replace out

. All this is taking it's toll on my brain and I cannot continue.

[Yume]

Again, that's not meta. That's MY PLAYSTYLE. There's a difference.

[Yume]

And one more thing. You are an insensitive bastard who keeps pushing my buttons on purpose. I am not replacing out because of your accusations, I am replacing out so I don't snap completely.

replace out